Messages

I remember hearing about stuff like this 10 years ago. They use to call it nemesis back then. I will check out the nasa site though. Maybe some new information has come to light.

quote:Originally posted by paladinblake

actually, thelunatic,

nibiru, or a celestial object hand't been spotted, but there have been magnetic and gravitational disturbances supposedly caused by one that was in the direction of the Orion constallation.  and it was in the NYTimes that a 'planet X' had been spotted but one of those space explorer units that the US spontaneously send flying toward deep space.  if you read the thread in the predictions forum labaled "oh no... its august" or something like that, there are some links.  its pretty interesting stuff.  another good thing is google.com.  i actually went to nasa.com and there was an article on "Planet X".  so check it out.

-Paladin

O! Humm sounds like there are 12 more pages of equations to go along with that somewhere though. heh.

Quantum theory is pretty cool stuff.

quote:Originally posted by beavis

Its not complicated. A quantum wave function is just a sine wave where the absolute value of the height of the wave is the probability you will find a particle in that space.

probability = | sin(position) |

If the earth physically flipped it would 100% wipe out life on this planet. Such a change isn't very likely to ever happen The earth's moon stabilizes our axis currently. It would be more likely for the earth to fly out into deep space, get hit by a huge hunk of space junk or get flung into the sun. If however we lost the moon then it would be more possible for the earth to wobble more than it does. This would cause chaos in weather patterns and make life very bad. Flip totally? still very unlikely.

As far as a rouge planet causing problems, well no one has ever detected such an object and it would be really hard to miss. Be more worried about 1km sized asteroids than some invisible unknown planet.

quote:Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

When I first heard of all the pole shift stuff, I thought it was a magnetic change, like all magnets point North suddenly are pulled South, etc., too, but turns out what is meant is a change in the actual physical ice caps. I don't know if they'll flip totally so that they're fully switched, but I wouldn't be surprised if some things got a little re-organized by Nibiru's gravity.

O and as far as electronics not working anymore I don't really see any reason to fear that. If you take your north facing computer and turn it south it still works the same. I guess one could argue that the process of the field changing direction might damage electronic's but I would guess that it would only effect things like power grids that have hundreds of miles of conductive wire.

Well power grids have been overloaded in the past due to space weather so yes if the earth's magnetic field was to flip I'm sure it would create a world wide power outage due to the enormous induction of current into all the power lines but I'm not sure how much damage that would cause to the physical infrastructure for there are circuit breakers build into the systems. At the very least I'd say there would be mass looting and some riots.

And yes the earth's field has flipped in the past.. 5 or 6 times if I remember correctly... proven fact.

quote:Originally posted by Tab

If the poles shift, AFAIK our electricity will be knocked out completely for a long time. Since most of the world is digital now, that would be a catastrophe. Maybe that's what they meant.

Hummm I've not heard of that, sounds awful mathematical. I'm somewhere between a laymen and a theoretical physicist. I've always enjoyed learning about things like this but I've never felt the urge to start messing with the equations...

I don't like math problems with lots of Greek letters, they make me very unhappy.

quote:Originally posted by beavis

The smallest known unit of time is a "quantum wave function"

I don't really feel that time is infinite. The universe had a starting point. There are two main theories to how it will end as well.

The first, which I hold to be true is that there is enough gravitational attraction in the universe to cause it to stop expanding and collapse inward again. The other theory is that it will grow larger and larger forever ending in a cold dead empty lifeless universe.

If you look at an element like gold or iron. If you break it down far enough you get to an atom, which is the smallest part of that element you might have that is still that element. I feel time and space are the same. Human's might never be able to see down far enough to see an atom of time but it's there nonetheless. Alot of different theories about space say it's full of little things called super strings....

Basically I guess it really doesn't mater in the end. Science is just like a religion. You just can't be 100% positive about anything it says.

I also think the world is really flat and that the 3d dimension is a lie told to keep us in our place.

When I was growing up I always figured the would was going to end as we know it. Basically I always figured it was going to be like the movie "Road Warrior" by 2001. I use to lay in bed at night and think of what I was going to do if this happened or that happened. I found myself sorta lost after it never came to be. In the end I guess the thing I learned was that while things can go horribly wrong and often do one shouldn't over look the possibility of a positive future. Remember all those "land of tomorrow" skit's they used to have? Isn't it funny how people's view of the future has changed from positive to negative? I think the cold war had alot to do with it.

Another thing, If I remember correctly according to the Mayan isn't man's tools to turn against him at the end of the world? I tend to remember that going hand in hand with 2012. maybe I'm wrong though.

I've had several OOBE's so it's a moot point for me.

At first I was rather skeptical as to the "leaving ones body part" being that my religion has always been science in the past.
I did several experiments to see what the deal was and found that I could indeed see what items where on a table in another room in my home without forehand knowledge of those items.

I have oobe's spontaneously at night while sleeping the most. I've only been able to project myself out 4 or 5 times. All of my oobe's are very short. Usually only a minute. This bugs the heck outta me because I have alot of things I wanna learn and do.

Then again I'm a pretty negative person so maybe I need more positive juice.. Donno still tryin....

-Luke

Enlightenment?

I think the best a human can hopeful is an understanding of just how ignorant he truly is. "The more you learn the more you realize how little you really know."

I like the wheel idea though. It always ends up back down in the mud sooner or later. IE when you think you've got a hold on things you find out otherwise.

One would not have to start out with projecting to such a dangerous place. A massive star would be a good proving ground before trying something like projecting into a black hole. If gravity is going to be a problem one should be able to determine it by working your way into places with more and more warping of space/time. Also if time travel in the astral form is possible one could travel backward to before the black hole formed to escape... But perhaps I'm wrong in that regards....

It's interesting conjecture but I don't think there would be anything interesting to see inside a black hole.