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quote:Originally posted by KenYang

Qi/Chi/Ki -- Chinese , Korean, and Japanese terms relating to life energy.

Psi -- Energy related to Psionics.

Fireball -- The incorrect term for what Ryu projects from his hands (Hadoken) in Street Fighter.

theres a thousand names for qi iv noticed that complicates things some are ancient whilst others anr new like the fore i came across recently

yoyo so to open the eye u first go
"toe" 4times then the next day its "maaaaayyyy" i htink i get it then

how long do we supposed to do this for again?

and will it work straightaway?[]

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

And what do you mean by that?

basically the geniuses is stond

by the way ki is in all everything that means you can uswe the elements around you for powerups and drain energy from them like sun or earth wind etc[]

i trust my instincts like when you walk in an alley you get an chill in ur spine

or when you know somaats not right

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

That's why you build up energy (or as I call it, Qi) in your off time rather than right before the event.  The only Qi drawing you should do before or during the event that you use Qi is breathing (which you should be doing all the time, anyway).

gatherinhg the energy is peps but holdibg it is harder

Hyperblue:

are you aware that this lonk is an satan woprsipper club !!!![}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]

quote:Originally posted by Foas

Was drunk when i typed that, my bad

u think the vortex is evil wait till you enter my bathroom!

how do you throught he dmn thing i made one so now wat how do i through it in my room???

quote:Originally posted by Foas

What you mean? In what way?

besides centring thetre must be an quicker way to collect the energy than 5 mins

quote:Originally posted by Psizure

I have no idea what to do. How do i start? What do i form? How do i make a psiball? How do i put stuff in my legs? What is this.. X_X;; Please help

best way is to meditate first it happens much quicker

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

quote:Originally posted by Cruel Tendencies

I haven't read NEW in a while, but he may have been referring to the full-body circuit.  That's the one where you raise energy up your legs and back, over your head, down your face, neck, and chest, and into your sub-navel.  Doing that develops the energy body because there's energy passing through almost all the pathways.

My personal opinion, which is in no way anything close to expert, is that you're developing the pathways in your legs and neglecting the rest of the energy body.  It's not really a good idea, nor is it helpful in the long run.  You'll have to develop the rest of your pathways (torso, arms, neck, head, etc) before you can begin primary chakra work.  And that's when the real cool stuff begins


Paul

That sounds like Microcosmic Orbit.
http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/micro.html

perfect an full bofy circuit just wat u need however ur body legs etc will go dead and bla bla so on
when this happens its verrrrrryyyy annoying personally my butt goes num lol[][8][8][][][8][]

quote:Originally posted by Ybom

Hehe, I have to run constantly here at work. It's considered part of the job really. However when I first read this thread I thought you were talking about faster velocities than 30 mph.

Used to before I started using something similar to this technique, I would always be around 3rd or 4th in running to come in, after about 2-3 miles. Now, I am always first. I asked one of the old fast runners why he can't catch me and he says the same thing every time..."It's like you don't run out of energy!"

My technique developed over about 2 years (slowly) though. It allows me to go for months without any physical routine and pick up where I left off. At first I always tried to keep a smile on my face so that I wouldn't try to strain my head, which is part of the reason why I used to not be able to have a good run time. Now it's more of a very relaxed setup. When I start running, I focus on my legs flexing themselves out, and tie the invisible rope around my stomach that constantly pulls me forward. I breathe in and out through both my mouth and nose. I breathe in, take 4 steps, breathe out, take 4 steps at first. After I go a ways though, I reduce my steps to 3 before breathing. As I'm running I focus on a spot about 20 feet in front of me and try to get there faster over and over, and gradually increase that distance as I go faster. I also try to stay as relaxed as possible and stay completely in my head as if this were a running game, and I have to catch some opponent out of sight. I also apply the need for speed if I have the energy for it.

The problems I seem to have still:
1. When I get close to the finish I seem to get winded quickly.
2. At the start I really don't know how fast I should start off at.
3. During winter weather, my throat and nostrils freeze making me focus on my problems rather than my pace.

That said, apply this technique to you as necessary. I'm not an Olympian by any means, but I think with these concepts you can be. There's probably other things you can apply this to as well.

wud you care to share the experience i mean the technique???
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quote:Originally posted by KenYang

quote:Originally posted by kenshinhan604

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

All that picture does is give me a headache.

I hate trusting my eyes so much (all three of them).

finnaly we agree on something

We never disagreed.  Its more that there is a lot of mistranslations out there on how to use "Energy as a Weapon" and I merely helped you bypass all those mistranslations.

I hope you didn't take it personally when I spoke contrary to your beliefs or others' claims.

josh my man (i gotta stop sayin that)

i never mind its a good thing to correct something it stops the person believin wrong stuff

nytime[]

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

Originally posted by kenshinhan604

josh my man in the lin k it sez

freezing people in place", "knocking people over

in the forh part of shadow kai ...

so....
canyou....
plez,...[:I]
explain it to me coz i dnt hav a clue how to use it....[]

"To Kiai, one must be like the bow and arrow. Inhale as one would normally for Qigong Form (refer to Chapter 1 of Qigong Book by Darkduck). The inhale is not dissimilar to that of an archer drawing back the bow when preparing to release an arrow upon a foe. When exhaling, one would tighten the abdominal area while creating a loud "Ha!" sound. This is to be no different than when an archer lets his arrow fly. Other sounds that are commonly used are "Ai!", "E-eye!", or "Ya!" The basic reason for tightening the abdominal area is so that one will "shout with their entire body instead of just their face." Forcing a Kiai out of the throat will make one hoarse and may likely lead to one losing their voice, making the Kiai impossible to perform. Other reasons for tightening the abdominal area will be explained while going further into the vast uses such as making strikes and kicks stronger, overcoming fear and pain, and sustaining blows without injury. After covering such topics, more distinct Kiai developed for specific purposes will be covered."

"Another very good mental weapon is to take advantage of the opponent's fear. When the opponent is preparing to or approaching to take the offensive, the Kiai can be used to project the intent and to project Chi into the opponent. With proper timing and a proper powerful Kiai one of a few certain effects will likely take place. The first is intimidation. The opponent can be intimidated a little bit which lowers the spirit, thus the Chi, and ultimately the overall power of the opponent. The opponent fould be intimidated to the point where they back down or that other nearby potential additional danger decides not to attack. A third effect is the opponent becoming slightly stunned and flenching. With this slight stun, which normally lasts up to one second at most, the individual can follow up on the Kiai with an attack without the worry of being defended against. The fourth would be a more powerful stun that could cause the opponent to step back, stumble, or even lose balance and fall over! Out of these effects, with proper timing and power taken into consideration, the most likely effect will be a slight stun unless one's Kiai is truly exceptional. These effects may, whether deliberately or not, take place while performing the Kiai for the other reasons stated in the above paragraphs."

That's aboutas basic as I can make it.  My only other advice I can give you is to go to a Karate class and ask the Sensei how to Kiai.

Also, read the entire article and read it carefully!  You'll better understand what I'm talking about if you don't just skim through it.
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josh ya savd me again!!!

nice to here that shouting can help for once!!!


thast link on vertias academys brill
can you open third eye if so how???

josh my man in the lin k it sez

freezing people in place", "knocking people over

in the forh part of shadow kai ...

so....
canyou....
plez,...[:I]
explain it to me coz i dnt hav a clue how to use it....[]

I have an article on a website about an art called Kiaijutsu.  If you read it carefully you will come across ways that you can affect another person with your Qi without touching them by correct use of the Kiai.



cool do tell an easy alternativ plez[:I]

boys boys basically it an shield
-thee end!!!
(glad to clear that up)[^][][^]

quote:Originally posted by sain

kenshinhan604, what exactly do you mean by 'smooth flow'?

this is when you get the hang of it itll release to u naturally

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

All that picture does is give me a headache.

I hate trusting my eyes so much (all three of them).

finnaly we agree on something

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

You don't "fire" it.  The closest thing to "firing" it is the Kong Jing ability and I don't know Kong Jing.

The closest thing you can do to "firing" Qi is doing Butterfly Palm (a Gongfu move that looks similar to a Kamehameha) Tekken style (physical contact).  Once you get the basics, you can trnasfer Qi through physical contact.  Hell, if you can punch out a candle with over a foot of distance between your fist and the flame then you can probably do some real damage to some internal organs if you got a clean, proper punch in while fighting.

You need to remember that nearly all fights that don't include projectiles take place within range of physical contact.  It wouldn't be much of a fight if they couldn't reach each other.

I'm not pulling crap out of my arse here with this.  This is real martial arts and real Qi work I'm talking about.  Fighting is a science that's been developing since the dawn of conflict between two beings and the various Qi disciplines (namely Taijiquan first) have been a work in progress for over 5,000 years now!  Its a "No Super Saiyans Allowed" club!  Blonde reverse-vegetable people ("Saiya" is "yasai" reverse which means "vegetable") in Shonen Jump aren't going to teach you real combat.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/introcombat.html

Here's some basic info that should introduce you into how to use Qi in a combat situation.  The links in the post I wrote before (the one you replied to) should be sufficient for building up enough Qi to be able to pull off the Intro to Combat Qi.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/defenseiron.html

This here is a good intro into tempering your body like Iron so that you can take hits without being damaged as easily.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/basicqi.html

For those of you who don't want a Qigong routine that's several pages long, here's some Introductory Exercises.  You won't get as much progress because Qigong literally means "energy work" and the more you work the better you get, but it should help you start.  I suggest adding the Zhan Zhuang that I spoke of in my prrevious post in this thread to this workout to make it more worth your time.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/anger.html

This is a primer on how Anger and POwer relate to each other.  This one's an especially good read for those who assume that anger = power.

http://www.dragonslist.com/

I'm going to mention this site again because it has some beautiful training methods like the Sunlight Hand Arts I mentioned before as well as good strategies like blocking and striking at the same time.

josh my man you always hav a cool website!!!
nice one really helped!!!!

so u cant fire it and you cant eat it so what can u do with it besides punching i mean can you actually use it to wait a minute mistic idan claims that she can use beams and balls which i thought you cant do?[:O][:O][}:)][]??

now im confused!!![]

nyone wanna help me?[?][?]

josh my man now that s an website!!!
cool one nyway

thanks!!![][][]

quote:Originally posted by voyd

Here's a claimed technique to enable auric vision.  Basically, forces you to SEE WITH YOUR PERIPHERAL VISION and use both eyes equally.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/health_/seeau.htm

Kinda like those "Magic 3-D Eye" stereographic pictures?  
One of my Taijiquan teachers also achieved enlightenment by staring at 2 counter-directional Taiji circles for like months...or years?  Anyways, the same concept of seeing with your peripheral vision, perhaps?  So, maybe that's the trick?  [?]

YOYO THIS WAS AN RAICAL SITE TO CHECK OUT I STRONGLY ADVISE FOR YOU ALL TO CHECK IT AOUT THIS HAS GOOD INFO THERE FOR ALL YA QUESTIONS

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

I swore up and down that I wouldn't come near this place but, "what the Hell", right?

Anywho, Qi as a weapon.

First and foremost, I don't know everyone's level of knowledge on this stuff so I'm gonna start with the very basics.  Qi (pronounced as "ch-ee" and also commonly spelled as "Chi") is the Chinese word for "energy."  Most people in the West think that Qi is a bunch of nonsense because a bunch of quacks who talk about it over here or due to some mistranslation a lot of people see Qi as some sort of mystical force that trandscends scientific study.  In reality, there are all types of Qi such as Ren Qi (Human Qi) referring to human energies, Tian Qi (Heaven Qi) referring to the weather, Dian Qi (Electric Qi) referring to electricity, Re Qi (Heat Qi) referring to heat, Si Qi (dead Qi) or Guo Qi (ghost Qi) referring to the energy of dead bodies, Huo Qi (vital Qi) referring to the vital energies of [insert living thing here], Zheng Qi (normal Qi) referring to the Qi of a person with good morals, and about 25 other types that I don't know yet.  There are even terms referring to the morale of armies like Qi Shi (energy state).  

My belief is that Qi, when used by itself, is a collective term referring to the types of Qi humans have like Re Qi from body heat and Dian Qi from nervous activity.  This comes from reading the book "Tai Chi Chuan and Meditation" by Da Liu.  Current scientific theory about Qi goes by the understanding that since everything breaks down into atoms and atoms have electricity, that bio-electricity is what Qi is and that the very subtle magnetic fields made by all this bio-electricity is what the aura is.  This comes from reading "The Root of Chinese Qigong" by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming.  You could also go into the variant theory that all mass is really made up on energy and that energy as well.

Anywho...

Qi is mainly used by people over here conciously as a way to stay healthy.  In martial arts, people either conciously or unconciously (depending on what was taught) use Qi when properly executing attacks with proper breathing methods.  I train in the use of Qi with an exercise I developed consisting of things such as Zhan Zhuang (a type of standing meditation) and Wai Dan (another type of standing meditation) as well as getting proper exercise.  I also increase my ability to use Qi by using it conciously when executing martial arts techniques.

From what I've learned from personal experience as well as reading books by people like Da Liu and Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming is that when it comes to "feeling people out" psychically or whatever its called around here, its because someone who has trained with Qi for awhile develops the ability to feel subtle magnetic waves given from bio-electricity and translate them in his mind in order to understand things about a nearby person.

When it comes to fighting, Qi can be built up in the limbs mentally and can be more easily done if the building is in rhythm with certain breath techniques like Daoist Breathing.  When Qi is built up in the limbs things happen like being able to use muscular strength more efficiently or "hardening of the fists" where you can dull out pain from hitting things and "transferring Qi" where you foce Qi into another person's body upon striking them with your limbs in order to not only give them injury, but stagnate Qi flow so its harder for them to recover.  Other uses include a technique known as Fa Jing (Explosive Force) which allows you to knock people very far away with minimal muscle effort and, at higher levels, allows you to rupture organs and make people fall where they stand.

Other uses include healing (Accupuncture, Accupressure, etc.) and making the body more endurant (Iron Body, Iron Palm) among other things that I just can't think of off the top of my head.

The most controversial part of Qi training is the ability known as Kong Jing (Empty Force) or Lin Kong Jing (Powerful Empty Force).  As far as I have read, Kong Jing is a skill that allows you to project Qi at people you can learn after about three years of a strict training schedule involving Zhan Zhuang, Leg Push Ups, and other exercises meant to build up Qi and extend it outside of the body as far as you intend.  Some say that this can be used for self-defense, others say that it can be used to make people become sick or dead at a fixed point in the future after application, and many say that Kong Jing can only really knock back people who also have a lot of Qi built up and, because of that, it (Kong Jing) can't be used for self defense.

http://www.geocities.com/bgaughr/ has a basic Qigong 101 course that is specifically made for novices.

http://www.geocities.com/donjitsu2/warriorhome.html is a site with training exercises like Zhan Zhuang for building up Qi for combat purposes.

http://www.dragonslist.com/articles/articles/?articleid=93 is an article from Dragon's List (a Gongfu/Kung Fu website) by one of the authors I mentioned above about how you can encorperate Sunlight Hand Arts (Candle Training) into your martial arts practice in order to more effectively use Qi in combat.

http://www.bodymindandmodem.com is a site based on Aikido if you're looking for something more on the Japanese side of Ki (pronounced "K-ee" and is the Japanese version of Qi) use.

The Korean version of Aikido is Hapkido and has the same principles as Aikido and even has the same definition and pronounciation (K-ee: "energy" or "spirit" [as in intent, mind-set, and emotions]) if you'd like to see things from a Korean standpoint.

[Edit]Dragonball and Street Fighter are not proper depictions of Qi at work.  They're a form of entertainment based in a world where Qi has properties that don't exist in the real world.  A Qi Ball is not really a "ball".  A Qi Ball is a ball-feeling that you get from eminating Qi from your palms and getting a feeling of opposing forces when you bring your hands close together.  The "power up" is something that doesn't exist in any form besides maybe spreading Qi all over your body at once or releaseing a Kiai (Spirit Gathering, the yell used in Japanese and Korean martial arts to summon Qi) to suddenly jolt your body with Qi.  No muscle tensing is involved and the only hairs that might stand up are the ones on your arms is you have a high enough Qi build-up and you emit it from your palm to your forearm from 2 inches away.[/edit]

so how do u fire the ki tyhen as an attack

i maen an blast ki attack u know!

quote:Originally posted by findtruth

I learned to use it in a beam first, but that doesn't mean it's easier.  Experiment, it's whatevr works for you.

beam hey?

so how did u do it ?

and how long did it take then?

everyone slow down with the quotes man and tell me hav u movd summat and howe long didit take