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[Subjective Reality vs Objective Reality.]

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Subjective Reality vs Objective Reality.
Are there absolutes (true all the time) or is everything a matter of perspective?

What Is Reality?


Additional information here for consideration:

http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2565.msg4191#msg4191

I see, no I have not observed that effect.

[Bruce Lipton]

some say it means you've acomplished a goal or task in life and its your subconscious acknowledging it. then others say it has to do with obe's. just a personal preference i guess make it what you want it to mean. i had a dream about modifying a 9mm hand gun or explosive rounds and that from what i found means i wish to improve the size of my membrum virile(latin...look it up) or improve my membrum virile(/ improve my sexual capabilities)

lol
Are you hinting that you enjoy regular success in 'live' ammunition? 
(rhetorical question)



I resonate with the theory of that our 'subconsciousness' is the accumulation of perceptions, belief systems, attitudes in our life, particularly childhood years. This means that culture, education, family & peer environment significantly contribute to who we 'think' we are,
and our perceptions of our environment.

Bruce Lipton points out:
Consciousness learns differently than subconsciousness.
The subconsciousness is still playing programs from childhood.
Once one understands the nature of these programs, one can rewrite the program to create
heaven, happiness and harmony on this planet.

http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2559.0

[all is one]

You believe that all realities are products of our thoughts, even the lowest "physical" reality that stands before us, if so you know that your viewpoint on the universe is harshly criticised by materialist philosophers such as Madalyn O'Hair. She quote on quote stated that "Materialsm's philosophy holds that nothing exists but natural phenomena-that there are no supernatural forces, no supernatural entities such as gods or heaven or heaven or anything else. There are no supernatural forces nor there can be. Nature simply exists-matter is, material is. {She said you are incorrect.}

I don't know who Madalyn O'Hair is, whether she has experienced OOBEs or phasing, so her perspective is irrelevant to me.

However I can only share my experiences which gives rise to my current belief systems, this may change when new experiences and discoveries are made, then my truth will evolve to allow for greater potential.
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2565.0

Since we are members of the 'Astral Pulse' Forum, I would like put forward the opinions from two great astral/wider reality explorers:
Souls in the afterlife (metaphor for after physical reality) are generally grouped to experience realities as per their belief systems:
Robert Monroe - Belief Territories
Bruce Moen: Hollow Heavens & Hollow Hells
They are both in agreement where the soul does not have such rigid 'religious belief' systems in hell/demon and heaven/God/Jesus,
the soul tends to gravitate to experience a more flexible & interesting paradigm/reality.

Now according to discoveries in Quantum Physics, there is no real solidity at the quantum level. The 'Observer' determines the outcome.
Reality is composed of energy fields of information; everything is entangled. So all is one.
The question is, without the observer, does reality exists?
There are (energy wave) potentials, but does not become actualised until the observer makes a measurement and chooses the outcome, then particle behaviour is observed.
Since we are perceiving reality, we must be the intelligence & energy.
This gives rise to the idea that consciousness is everything, both the creator and creations of perceived material things.

Following this rational, perhaps all reality is grouped by belief systems & certain rule sets.
Our experiences during OOBE, phasing and lucid dreaming certainly demonstrate that with our thoughts, desires & imagination
we can manifest material and experience other realities (some people have greater control over the process than others).
At this point I would like to introduce the idea of our 'higher self' -the more aware and knowing aspect of each of us that exists beyond
Earth space & time. So we may not be aware of our higher self, but this awareness also directs the show.

Are we so conditioned to think in terms of separate places, separate things, separate people, that we naturally
apply this perceptual filter in out interpretation of physical reality.
Conversely we readily accept that on the astral plane the boundary between creator and creation, or dreamer and dream is non-existent.

So if Quantum Physics premise is correct, that all is one, are our experiences during OOBEs, phasing & lucid dreaming
representative of the creation principle, and our perception of physical reality is the exception.

This reminds me of Nassim Haramein, pointing out:
*It is the space that defines matter, not the matter defining the space.
(Pay attention to the 99.99999% space in an atom)
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2559.0

What is your response?

I will direct you to this thread where this idea of: subjective reality and objectivity reality is discussed.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_members_introductions/how_to_make_enemy_online-t36240.0.html;msg299173#msg299173

in the page flipping it seems to me from research that eradic motion or actions tends to prolong and stabalize dreams.this is very interesting cause common sense tells us this would wake us up not prolong the dream.    anyone else agree to this strangeness??

page flipping? Do you mean changing scenes during LD?

From my experiences, some of the longer dreams I have consists of more scene changes, although if I wake up suddenly,
I tend to remember only those scenes which had more emotional charge, such as an exhilarating car chase or experiencing astral flight.
Also if there are more characters & activity, my LD is easier to recall & tends to be relatively longer than those with just myself in it.

Several times, when I am driving home (usual route) -almost on auto pilot, I can start to recall some of my recent LD.

[What is reality?]

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What is reality?

Albert Einstein states:
* Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
* Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited.


Quantum physicists - Double Slit Experiment
proves how tiny particles behave differently when they are being measured. The observer determines the outcome.
This implies that there are multiple realities where every possible outcome is played out in a parallel universe.

So what is reality? A computer simulation? A multiverse?
Or is our human brain perceiving just one possible interpretation of the ultimate reality?


Three Types Of Reality is offered here:

Phenomenological reality is based on subjective experience. Whatever you observe is instantly real to you. This theory of reality means that unreality is non-existent. Therefore lucid dreams, hallucinations, spiritual experiences, and astral travel are all forms of one subjective reality.

Consensus reality is based on the opinions and observations made by a group of people. A few individuals may decide on an interpretation of an event, which spreads across entire societies and becomes a consensual truth. Religion is a good example of a socially constructed reality.

Non-reality simply means that there is no such thing as objective reality. Every possible observation or interpretation is tainted by subjectivity and therefore does not constitute truth. Nothing is real! This is supported by quantum theory, which states that prior to observation, nothing can be said about a physical system.
http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/what-is-reality.html


Tom Campbell uses the analogy that reality is like a virtual Reality 'SIMs' game,
and each player experiences their subjective reality.


Terrence McKenna describes how 'Culture is your operating system' are like boundary defining engines
and plants/psychedelics eg DMT can transcend cultural Os, enabling one to return to first premises.
Here he is suggesting that perceptions from cultural programming once removed & replaced can allow the individual
eg. shamans to experience a different reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctjNqQPnAk8


In this linear space-time limited human body expression, I can only know my own mind and what is 'true' to me.
To be concerned and automatically accept there is a reality of absolutes (true all the time) would deny me the possibilities
of experiencing such 'meta-physical' phenomena (positive and negative placebo effect, energy healing, sungazing, remote viewing)
that some have reported, but most have rejected as being 'not-true'.
I am more interested in directing my energy towards self-realised discoveries than what is being pushed in the media,
and I will naturally seek other possibilities.

The mysteries of creation & consciousness continue to elude us, and I think this is also what excites us and stimulates our curiosity.
I think we should all keep an open mind, while not succumbing to 'group think' and embrace our individual expression.
Everyone is in possession of thoughts, call it what you will, opinions, truths, beliefs, facts etc.
but understand this, when you enforce what you believe onto others as being the only absolute 'truth', without respecting and
understanding their experiences, you are condoning censorship and the possible beginnings of
an 'Orwellian' society. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwellian


People will resonate to certain information/ideas, so let all opinions be communicated, and conscious minds will think for themselves.



-sorry just correcting some typos

[biased]

* Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.
* The only source of knowledge is experience.

-Albert Einstein


People who study 'Linguistics' can aim to use language precisely, but then they will be communicating to others, most of who don't have such
control, finesse and  ambition. Ultimately assumptions are being made by both parties that certain meanings are implied, individual reference points of view are true, recorded history (according to whatever country/records) are completely unbiased and objective in its reporting ie 'fact'.

Well, one can see by watching so called news today that 'truth' and 'current history in the making' is often biased,
and years from now todays news will be recorded as 'fact'.

[The Nature of Reality, Consciousness & Evolution with Tom Campbell]

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I too have often wondered about 'subjective reality' versus the collective 'objective' reality,
Is there an absolute collective 'objective' reality?

I looked towards one of the masters in explorations of reality and the wider reality for clues.

The Nature of Reality, Consciousness & Evolution with Tom Campbell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niip67BXkQE&feature=player_embedded

In this video, Thomas Campbell explains how there is no objective reality, because each person,
consciousness decodes/interprets the given information differently.
He states we each live in a subjective reality!

[subjective reality]

FIRST: SHARE YOUR OPINION!

ha ha ha! too true sometimes  

I have an opinion.
My opinion may differ to yours because of my reference points of view, my experiences, the way I interpret information & experiences ...
That does not necessarily mean that you're wrong and I'm right,
it just means that in my subjective reality, what I think really matters! pun intended

Since we each have free will, our ability to think whatever we like should not be censored.
If the internet was censored, what would the user's experiences be like?

People will either agree or disagree with you, -or don't care.
Let them, after all physical reality is not real (solid), it is a perceptual illusion, a perceptual construct.
This means, you need to be conscious to experience reality.
What, you can think? You qualify to participate!

So yes, share your opinions because the thinking person who carefully considers the subject matter and information pertaining to it,
will have an opinion; or conversely the habitual person already has an opinion from inherited belief sytems.


Ultimately we each experience what we feel and perceive because we each create our subjective reality!

[good]

Since physical reality has no solidity, it is not a place but a perceptual illusion, a perceptual construct.
From this level of understanding, good and evil are both ideas, concepts.
If one accepts the idea of good, one must also accept the existence of the idea of evil to give both reference points meaning.
Similarly, 'hot'  is 'needed' to define 'cold'.
'Right' is needed to define 'left'.
Without this duality, how can ideas be defined?

Some people believe that 'God' is only good without evil, but readily accept that 'God' is all that is.
If the idea of 'God' encompasses everything, doesn' this imply that 'God' also includes the expression of evil ?


On the human drama level, the existence of both 'good' and 'evil' is real,
because as physical human beings we all experience emotions & bodily sensations.
Generally we associate those who inflict pain and suffering as being evil, and those who promote peace, love and prosperity as being good.
However there is no absolute objective measurement in the degree of how someone or something is a little bit or extremely 'good' and 'evil.'
So each person has a subjective interpretation/perspective.

We each experience a physical body in a survival, competition type paradigm, how can we not have the expressions of 'good' and 'evil' ?
Do both 'good' and 'evil' serve us in the sense that these experiences promote spiritual growth towards love as we grow to understand how connected we all are.
Ultimately the harm that we inflict on others, we inflict on ourselves, as well as the love that we extend to others, we will receive.

I believe one day when this self realisation is achieved, we as one human consciousness will only perceive love without duality, as this is our natural spiritual state.

Back when I was younger, and even from time to time now-a-days... the only way I could "fly" in a dream (lucid or astral) was if I flapped my arms.  It worked great. 

Same here thoughout my life. I usually dreamt that I flew like superman, sometimes in a vertical position.
During my highschool years, where I experienced high levels of stress associated with exams,
after some 'astral flying' I felt that any difficulties in my life were surmountable.

When I was a very young child I remember having recurring LD of playing tips on the ceiling with my brothers.
I would fly-jump upside down from place to place on the ceiling happily, without feeling any vertigo.

Sounds like an awesome experience

The colouful light tunnel could be a vortex, wormhole which myself and others have experienced and described:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/quotwormholequot_during_lucid_dream-t35927.0.html;msg297086#msg297086

Regarding your subconsciousness, there is a theory that our subconsciousness is what drives our 'perceived' reality.
All the repeated thoughts that make up the sense of 'self', particularly the inherited 'thoughts' of others defining you, and
programmed belief systems inherited though culture, religion, educational system is stored in your subconscious mind.

For example, even in your astral body some people find it difficult to pass through walls or maintain flight
because of their belief in Material Science (Newtonian Physics): all things are made up of atoms, particles.
We now know through Quantum Physics that there is absolutely no solid stuff in 'physical' reality.

Thanks for sharing your LD, I enjoyed reading it

Talk to your subconscious in a LD.

From my personal experiences, my dreams often reveal aspects about myself.
I find that when I pay attention to those recurring dreams, decode it and subsequently deal with any negative self perceptions, or issues,
my life and relationship with others improve.
During non-visual sleep I am often aware of the mind chatter, my own consciousness re-arranging and making sense of my experiences,
and my attitudes. I am female, and my inner self (awareness) offen talks to me in a deep male voice during my sleep, and reveals my inner truth.

Discussions with my inner awareness/ higher self:
All is consciousness, therefore all things are thought constructs, concepts.
Realisation: out of nothingness, as consciousness we give definitions to things, ideas  -by idea associations and experiences (role play).
Polarity is a means of giving definition to ideas.
Eg/  The concept of good is needed to define evil; need both reference points to give meaning.
      Similarly cold is required to define hot and vice-versa.

I pay attention to the symbology in my lucid dreams, because symbols are usually a metaphor about aspects of you, your attitudes and your life.
Since each person experiences their own subjective reality, the best person to understand the dream is the dreamer.
For example I had a lucid dream of 2 pyramids. One pyramid is crumbling down, in another scene I see 2 metallic dinosaurs,
and 2 flying pterodactyl circuling a dissolving pyramid. I interpret this to mean the old established structures in my perceived
'physical' reality (including government: external mind control agents) is in the process of being dismantled,
and my previous definition of self and reality is also dissolving.

Through a process of introspection, self discovery and validation via meditation, OOBEs, phasing & lucid dreaming,
I continue to experience spiritual growth and a commensurate sense of liberation of my soul from the once limited self definitions.



>>>Through my journey down the rabbit hole of self-discovery, only to find reflections of myself, I realise that:

There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

We indeed live in a divine universe, and that
our relationship with the notion of "GOD" is not "out there" but intrinsically "in here."
By the very act of thinking, perceiving and feeling we apply free will, and
our divine ability to create the experiential Universe of motion and things.


My attitude to life has profoundly changed, I love my life and if I want to change it, I know I can by changing my thoughts
because I create my subjective reality

Following Frank Kepple's instructions I learnt how to phase.
Initially I could only phase for short moments ~5minutes,
but after some practise my phasing experiences lasts longer and I can change scenes 3-4 times.
Two nights ago I phased for about 40 minutes before I lost awareness/recall.

Before I pursued phasing, I practised regular meditation, intended OOBEs at least twice per month (lack of opportunity due to having little ones)
and had almost nightly lucid dreaming with good recall.

From personal experiences, successful phasing occurs if you are sufficiently rested/ had enough sleep,
or else you may have short phasing experiences before losing awareness/recall.

[The Biology Of Beliefs: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles]

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The Biology Of Beliefs: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles




Bruce works with DNA. After he destroys DNA in the cells, the cells still has a life and still has behaviour.
The question is: What is controlling the cell?

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Bruce Lipton, Research Scientist and Biologists explains how we program DNA through our perceptions & belief systems.
Ultimately by understanding this, reducing stress in our lives and embracing LOVE, we can control our health and live longer.
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We are all infinitely more powerful than we have allowed ourselves to know.
If you don't like the way your life is going, change your beliefs.

Pay attention to your thoughts and analyze them. Realize that you are not only
creating with them your self, but you are sending them out and they are affecting others.

Psychologists say over 70% of our thoughts are negative and redundant.
The secret of life is to watch your thoughts. Because once you realize what is really going on,
you can make new ones, which will create your reality anew.


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WE ARE CONTROLLED BY OUR BELIEFS!
It is our beliefs that adjust our physiology.
It is our beliefs that adjust the selection of genes.]
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Read a synopsis of Bruce's DVD:
http://www.pillaroflight.net/Bruce%20Lipton.pdf


Youtube video: Bruce Lipton - Where Mind and Matter Meet Presentation
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTAt5Y9Iitk&feature=related


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I try to attach my photo in the tread member's photos,but I get this??!?!

Encountered the same problem. I can't save my profile info.

Truth is subjective.

All sorts of information is presented.
It is up to the individual to consider the available information, investigate further, and make up their own minds.

Ultimately, each person will experience what s/he wants to believe or is convinced to believe,
because we each experience a subjective reality.

Since reality is 'illusory' (no real solidiity) in nature,
'peace' is ultimately attained by 'peace of mind' and 'knowingness.'


This forum and others like this one, facillitates 'peace of mind' and 'knowingness.'

Thanks to all here, who are helping people realise more of their potential as 'spiritual beings'
through OOBE, phasing, astral projection, lucid dreaming, remote viewing and more.



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[Without religion would we be closer to world peace?]

Don't expect comments from me here. This is a survey I'm conducting and letting people debate on. I am tallying the results January 14th and within a week from then hopefully I will post the results in this thread as well as other places scattered across the internet.

Without religion would we be closer to world peace?

Answer the question and feel free to debate!

The survey and topic is about:
Without religion would we be closer to world peace?

So this question is in the context of the effects of religion on the masses, world population.


It is undeniable that most if not all the members of this forum, through a process of self discovery and
astral explorations have defined themselves beyond the limiting defintions of man's realtionship to 'God'
taught by the main stream religious doctrines.

However most people who belong to these religious organisations (register membership)
have not broken out of mass-hypnosis because they absolutely acccept the position of
these doctrines such as the Bible and Torah as literal fact, not allegory http://www.thefreedictionary.com/allegory.
I discuss the bible because I, like most Christians who regularly attended Sunday mass at Church, were taught
that the Bible authors were inspired by the Holy Spirity.

The 2 common and self-limiting attitudes that most Christians hold are:
Every person is born a sinner (through disobedience to 'God', inherited Adam and Eve's original sin and human condition of toil and struggle),
Occult practises are sinful. Spiritualist and Mediums are the Devil's agents (recurring theme thorughout bible).

Fear of punishment from God, and guilt being a sinner are some of the main reasons
why many Christians do not investigate our natural spiritual rights and abilities such as OOBE, phasing.

Such fear and guilt complexes can manifest experiences for the believer.
One reported seeing demons http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2867.0
If people knew, these perceived 'evil' entities are products of their psyche and can removed by a process of self discovery.


Religion, in most people's mind refer to World Religions http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm, not necessarily spiritulism.
When people are asked what religous persuasion do they follow, they normally identify with these mainstream groups,
Christianity is bar far the dominant religion (see lined map), and thus inform public policy, law, and politics.

Christian core values of forgiveness, tolerance and love facilitates a more social cohesive community,
but the 'self-appointed' authority of the establishment, The Vatican promotes 'separatism' in a world context,
and enforces a debt-slavery system. Why? It is run by men who have vast interests in the banking system. Power and profits.

To be fair the Vatican http://www.toughissues.org/handoutsnew/Wealthy%20Church.htm and the Khazars (Zionist Bankers) http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm are the World Bankers and the power brokers behind global agendas.
This is not conspiracy.
The Federal Reserve Central Banks is a private organisation owned by http://theunjustmedia.com/Banking%20&%20Federal%20Reserve/The%20Federal%20Reserve%20is%20Privately%20owned.htm

Rothschild Bank of London

Warburg Bank of Hamburg

Rothschild Bank of Berlin

Lehman Brothers of New York

Lazard Brothers of Paris
   
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York

Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy

Goldman, Sachs of New York

Warburg Bank of Amsterdam

Chase Manhattan Bank of New York


The Government: Election and Political process.
Do people actually have a choice, and vote their political representatives in,
so their views could be actually represented and applied in public policy?
The 2 party election system is adopted from the Roman Political system. Minor parties do not really have much success of getting in.
There is the illusion that people have a choice, but the tendency for politicians to 'do whatever they want' despite pre-election promises
are far too frequent and blatant for people to miss.

* Did the American people vote for continued war (more like invasions)?
-> Ron Paul growing number of supporters is an example.

* Do the American soldiers feel justified in their occupation of these unfortunate countries?
Here is an example of their views:
AMAZING SPEECH BY WAR VETERAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8



-Break free from mass-hypnosis perpetuated by Governments and
the real people & their corporations who control it.-
Think for yourself!


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Know that you alone can only help yourself through self discovery, and
a willingness to scrutinise your belief systems and redefine yourself accordingly.

You will experience what you believe to be true, because we live in a Mental World of pure consciousness.
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We each are much blessed, not born sinners, and much loved.
It is the degree that we explore ourselves and our connection with Source,
that we grow to understand how divine and free we are.
It is the state of mind.


World peace can be achieved when we each take responsibility and think for ourselves.
We save ourselves by realising reality is what we believe it to be.
Instead of being convinced that Governments have the moral right and represent the views of the people,
we should remove these artificial mental boundaries between people, countries, religious groups, status
by perceiving all people as one people, one family as we are all connected in spirit.

[is not hate driven]

* Do NOT listen to the hate filled anti-Catholic bigots;
http://www.amazon.com/New-Anti-Catholicism-Last-Acceptable-Prejudice/dp/0195176049/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327373318&sr=1-2

The tone of you post is 'hateful' and prejudiced.

To share experiences, point out how religion, not just Christianity is based on 'Astromythology',
the Vatican & Zionist connection between the Trust Laws, debt-slavery system, Federal Reserve Bank,
and the present Political social-economical structure is not hate driven.

It is love driven.
A plea for people to wake up and take responsibility for themselves and not let
government (mind control agents)
to 'lead us into temptation; but deliver us from evil'
      -as well as dogma associated with Astrotheology and Newtonian-Darwinian belief systems.

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from Latinised Greek:

gubernatio means "management, government"
mente means "mind"

Government = Mind Control
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How can I hate, when some of my family still call themselves 'Catholic' and 'Christian'


My spiritual awakening shattered most of what I held to be true as a (former)
Christian and Materialist (belief in Newtonian Physics).


I believe and apply the core values of Christianity: love, tolerance and forgiveness, and discard the fear, guilt-sin & hell doctrine.
These loving principles when applied genuinely will create 'Heaven on Earth',
but for the men who control governments and the petrol-fiat monetary system.

The common religious principles of love, tolerance, and forgiveness leads to 'spiritulism' and is a service to humanity.
The Religious hierarchical political 'corporate' model, together with its resounding message of
fear, punishment, guilt, sin and hell perpetuates 'a servant mentality'
who must obey his master eg. The Pope, Government, Elitist and not question the authenticity of these religious doctrines.


I think the time is right for humanity as 'one consciousness' to release their 'saviour' figure and
save themselves from social manipulations and mass-hypnosis by Religious and Political Governments machinations,
and truly liberate their souls from limitation, and 'Astrotheology'.


Please watch these videos: Astromythology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lsOJMyM6ZI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkZwXfLcfY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnlUAgqPwI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJ9H3aLWxE&feature=player_embedded

[Was it Sleep Paralysis? or dream?]

Before I experienced my first spontaneous AWAKE OOBE, with dual consciousness in two bodies,
both physical and astral, then an expanded state of consciousness transcending any form and definition,
I readily disimissed my dreams as products of my imagination.

This OOBE was different to my lucid dreams in that the 'frame of reference' before the 'out of body state'
continued from exactly what and where I was doing/being in physical reality.
There was no questioning of how real the experience was for me.

OOBE is the same as 'lucid dreaming' because I usually retain a relatively high level of awareness and
control compared to the state that I am in during waking physical reality.
You experience all or most of your senses (depending on the body vehicle expression),
but you can transcend physical laws and perform what we perceive as 'magical' feats
such as flying, teleportation, morphing, experiencing other realities, dimensions and parallel universes (whatever metaphor you want to use).

After several phasing experiences, I realised that physical reality is like 'lucid dreaming' because you can readily
experience another illusory (virtual) reality by allowing your attention to shift away from physical reality,
temporarily disengaging your senses to allow for other possibilities.
All realities have no real solidity, and therefore must be illusory perspectives.
We exist as consciousness-energy beings, exploring self in a continuum of consciousness.

In physical reality:
When I was a child I saw a huge pink castle above the fluffy white clouds. I could zoom in and observe the fine detail
of the brick work, and both the red and white flags flapping in the wind. I exclaimed to my dad to look, but he ignored me.
A few months ago, I accidently changed a $10 note to a $5 note. I told myself repeatedly that I expect $5 change.
I looked away and when I looked back I saw myself handing $5 note to the cashier and so got no change; confusing.
At night, during and after meditation, I can project and experience an external colourful light show which touches my body like soft wind.


In conclusion, I believe that all reality, dreams, OOBE and phasing are products of our thoughts, desires and expectations.
When you shift your focus and have strong desires, you can experience other possibilities.


Some people are more aware than others.



Relevant posts:

Was it Sleep Paralysis? or dream?
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/was_it_sleep_paralysis_or_dream-t36164.0.html;msg298611#msg298611

Reincarnation - an unconventional viewpoint
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/reincarnation_an_unconventional_viewpoint-t35892.0.html;msg298639#msg298639

[U]

I believe (to date) that we are all aspects of 'one consciousness' exploring all potentials, all possible realities and all possible self expressions.
Since we all are the 'eternal I AM' we do not cease to be, and exist in a continuum of consciousness.
There is no real solidity in any reality, we all experience virtual realities or 'illusory perspectives' created by consciousness,
and filtered through our own mindscape.
(http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2565.0)

Each soul/ consciousness unit experiences own subjective reality, as we each have own perspectives,
unique way of interpreting information and experiences,
so there is no absolute objective truth (except we exist). Truth is subjective.
We each experience our own U-ni-verse,
and create our own You-in-verse - own story and history.



Most of us currently perceive ourselves to be physical human beings,
but we are really spiritual-energy beings having human experiences in a reality which is patterned in phicycle (http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2559.msg3483#msg3483).

Analogy, 'reincarnation' is like a process where each soul chooses their next virtual reality, through our belief systems,
definitions of self, and emotional attachments. We also have particular desires to experience a particular paradigm.
I have heard the 'soul' being described as 'the seed of desires.'

We are continually exploring the labyrinth of consciousness and realms of imagi(c)nation
of all possible realities and all possible self expressions.
We as consciousness created something out of nothing.
In truth we all are the eternal 'I AM' - the state of being-
giving meaning to perceived concepts through role play.


I have researched this area here:
AFTER-LIFE, INTER-LIFE & OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2564.0

[Religion]

Napoleon was  atheist also.  Or at the very least was not religious

Religion does not necessarily = spiritualism.
It is organised, governed by men pushing their own interests and agendas.
It preaches a set of established doctrines as being absolute truth.
Governments, together with religious leaders use their own interpretation to set policies, law and social control infrastructure.


Atheism does not necessarily = no spiritulism
It may be anti State-Religion controlled.

What is spiritualism?
In my own opinion, this is a personal 'self discovery' process of understanding one's connection with creation/divinity.
Spiritulism transcends any one religion and does not seek approval from man-made religious organisations.
It is an internal process of liberating the soul and finding peace.


History is written by the winners.
The Vatican won Napoleon lost.
http://cominganarchy.com/2007/04/03/napoleon-vs-the-vatican/


Napolean was an enlightened man and appears to be spiritualist.
Napolean was against the Vatican and the Papal States.
So yes, he was anti-Papal Sates, anti-religious because he understood religion was a means to control other men.
He was very ambitious and wanted to be his own ruler. He had the desires of men for power.


*** Have you noticed how these religious leaders and government officials don't readily apply what they so loudly preach.

  eg. * Vatican (Catholic) sponsored war, The Cruscades
        * Zionist (International bankers, Vatican) use U.S./U.N./E.U. > Political manipulated wars using Israel as justification.
        * Pedophilia in the Churches
        * Vatican wealth estimated in excess of £2,000,000,000 http://www.fireandhammer.com/vatican_wealth.htm
           while almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day  (2008) http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats


Napoleon's Quotes:
A thorough reading and understanding of the Bible is the surest path to atheism.
All religions have been made by men.
Religion is what keeps the poor man from murdering the rich.
Imagination rules the world.
The best cure for the body is a quiet mind.

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/napoleon_bonaparte/

A few nights ago, I (OOBE) felt myself lifting out of my body, floating upwards and saw myself rise above through my bedroom ceiling.
I took flight.
I flew to the nearest power station pole and my foot got tangled in the cables when I tried to launch again.
Then I decided to fly back to my 2 storey dark brown brick house.
However my place of residence during my OOBE is now in a large dark brown block of apartments 2/3 up to the top.
I hovered outside my bedroom window, peered inside and saw my husband sleeping.
I decided to call out to him, he did wakeup and looked in my direction but did not engage.
Then I saw my physical self sit up to settle my toddler lying next to me, yawned and stretched.
After both my husband and physical self went to sleep, I decided to go flying.
I saw a long cable to the side of the apartment block and climbed-jump to the top.
Now with a good high platform, I launched myself into the air, wanting to fly to Viet nam (my mother is currently holidaying there).

The sensation of flying through the clouds in the sky in your astral body feels so real, because it engages all your perceived senses (except taste).
After a few minutes of flying (I think) I landed instead, on top of a block of cartoon buildings,
with cartoon shops. I experienced a cartoon body with dulled touch sensation and heightened vision.
I saw my cartoon arms and legs while walking from the same perspective looking down.
The shopping street looks similar to the place I usually shop at, but is rendered as a cartoon scene.
I did not think of creating a mirror to look at my face.

Strange and funny experience  

I usually have a high amount of control and awareness during OOBE.
The cartoon reality had a lucid dreaming quality to it because it was unexpected.

The inconsistencies between Physical Reality & OOBE reality
Physical Reality: dark bedroom, double brick stand alone house, 1am in morning, wearing blue-white shorts and pink T-shirt
OOBE Reality: dim bedroom, apartment block, late afternoon daylight, cartoon: wearing red shorts and white T-shirt.


-sorry duplicate save. Moderator can you delete the previous entry.

A few nights ago, I (OOBE) felt myself lifting out of my body, floating upwards and saw myself rise above through my bedroom ceiling.
I took flight.
I flew to the nearest power station pole and my foot got tangled in the cables when I tried to launch again.
Then I decided to fligh back to my 2 storey dark brown brick house.
However my place of residence during my OOBE is now in a large dark brown block of apartments 2/3 up from the top.
I hovered outside my bedroom window, peered inside and saw my husband sleeping.
I decided to call out to him, he did wakeup and looked in my direction but did not engage.
Then I saw my physical self sit up to settle my toddler lying next to me, yawned and stretched.
After both my husband and physical self went to sleep, I decided to go flying.
I saw a long cable to the side of the apartment block and climbed-jump to the top.
Now with a good high platform, I launched myself into the air, wanting to fly to Viet nam (my mother is currently holidaying there).

The sensation of flying through the clouds in the sky in your astral body feels so real, because it engages all your perceived senses (except taste).
After a few minutes of flying (I think) I landed instead, on top of a block of cartoon buildings,
with cartoon shops. I experienced a cartoon body with dulled touch sensation and heightened vision.
I saw my cartoon arms and legs from the same perspective looking down.
I did not think of creating a mirror to look at my face.

Strange and funny experience