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Had my first obe by means of 'phasing' this morning--thought I'd share.

After walking around a bit this morning I decided to try this method because I was still kinda groggy.  I got myself very relaxed in about 5-10 mins.  I did my usual going in and out of lucid dreaming experiences.  I then came upon this image of a trail that was very low in detail.  I then tried to 'step' into that image in my head and try to fully feel as if I were experiencing being there.  I hopped back and forth between the physical and astral/f2 then finally held on.  I then experienced myself jogging/flowing down this trail as if I were there.  It was weird because at first it was like I was in a cartoon and the further I went down this trail the more it became an actual reality.  I was actually amazed at the detail.

I proceeded to go through this town of little domes.. nothing I had ever seen and I all of a sudden my eyesight went into this kaleidelscope(spell?) mode and I was seeing not only double but like 10 of the same little image.

Once I got my sight normal I was tugged back at an extremely fast rate(astral wind) and I couldn't control it.  After a couple of miles going backwards I found myself going into the ground.  I was kinda mad because what could I do inside the earth.  Finally I found myself popping out of the otherside of the earth and found myself in egypt!  I came across the Sphinx and got yanked to my body when the phone rang.. bummer.

What was funny was that it was day on one side of the earth and night in egypt...Yeah, I guess that makes sense, but I didnt expect that in astral.
Anyways, yup the phasing method works for me.  I actually prefer that method than trying to 'get up' out of your body because the overlay in the physical is much to much for me.

oh I see what you are saying Han.  That example does clear up a bit of confusion I had.

I was also wondering what happened to the other so-called 'planes'.  From countless sources, they describe our conciousness in terms of 7 planes/dimensions/focuses.  So I am assuming Frank is speaking of the first 4--the 4 he is familiar with.

Yep, thats exactly what I was talking about.  When I was little I had no thought of it actually meaning anything.  I just thought it was a natural result of me messing with my eyes.  I used to do it on purpose when I was bored so I could see all the neat pictures.  Then of course my eyes would get sore from constant rubbing, heheh.  But yeah, with practice, one should be able to pick it up without that method.

I was just curious if anyone had any comments/thoughts to my previous post

Also I had another thought.  If all we see is illusion within our own mind, wouldn't that rule out all possible ghosts/angels/or even spirit guides? I know Frank claimed to have a few.  It just seems sort of contradictory when it is all "manifested."

Although, I do realize it was said that spirits reside above "focus 2"...However, there seem to have been accounts of people communing with them in focus2 and also having projections ABOVE 'focus2' where they actually have interacted with whichever ghost/guide/etc...

Im not necessarily attacking this theory, just analyzing what I've soaked up thus far.  maybe once he finishes this book will it explain a bit more.  

I just remembered when I was young, I would rub my eyes softly and very slowly and stop while applying light pressure.   Then I would be able to see patterns and colors.   Once this happened I would let go and let the images  play.  I believe this is same way of focusing your inner sight.  Perhaps this helps massage the muscles around the eye to allow focus.  Try experiementing

Well I do agree the term 'god' is a little or even a lot exaggerated.  This is because of my background and how I'v viewed that term my whole life.  However, I have no clue of Sapphire's history and actual definition of 'god' is.  Perhaps not as extreme ( maybe lost in translation). Take it with a grain of salt or whatever.

I do, however, have an argument against people's beliefs in this whole 'rabbit hole effect' and how it's only themselves.  Yes I believe in the astral you can manifest and see whatever you like.  It has been said many times that you are projecting into your own mind...The problem I see with this is, we are ultimately all connected.  Energy is constantly being exchanged among people.  What stops Us from projecting into someone else's mind? someone else's experiences or problems?  I've heard many accounts of people projecting, meeting, and later both recalling the same obe.  How is this possible if it's only within one mind?

I believe souljah was touching on this in another thread...but if we have the ability to choose what we see, we also have the ability to choose what NOT to see.  If we choose only to see flowers and people that are already happy, we will see them.  At the same time we are choosing not to see people of a lower freq that are in need of help, perhaps.  And yes there are people that are in need of help today--we all are.  

just keep an open mind, is what Im saying

Witan,

This thread was simply about our experiences in the astral... whichever they might be.  You don't have to like them or read them either.  However, we are all here to share and learn from eachother... no need for the hostile comments

I actually am not quite sure what they tasted like.  Truely  a unique taste with some sort of filling inside...nothing like any sort of candy here... and nope, didn't taste like shells either.

I do find it interesting about the chocolate as well.  Particularly that they are shaped as shells.  I once had a lucid and this man handed me a handful of these colorful shells.  Not necessarily chocolate but some sort of candy I guess, but I ate a couple..heheh

Hey Nay, loved your story!  I was curious though as to how you knew you were in his dream? Was it that fact that the dream revolved around the boy?

As for me, I don't really think to look at myself out body.  I'v seen spirits floating in air as a rainbow of colors--kind of like a wind.  I have also seen them as a black and white--like looking as a tv image.

I'v never left this earth realm to my knowledge.  But for all I know any other place could look very similar.  

I'd have to say my favorite projection experience was when I went camping once.  Enjoying the great outdoors! I took a nap and I had the most peaceful obe.. and it happened so effortlessly

Well in my experience I don't really have a whole lot of control over which destination I arrive.  I guess I'd like to think my "guides" take care of that...However I'm sure I could go wherever I wanted to with enough practice.  However, most of the time I just walk around my distorted surroundings.  I usually fallout of it by the time I actually go somewhere else.. unfortunately

for me, I generally don't see until after I seperate, then I just open my eyes as I normally would.  If you think you are gonna have trouble, you probably will, so believe that whatever method you use will work.

Frank,
I am curious.  You are leading me to believe that avhieving focus 4 prematurely, there is a possiblilty of going insane.  Did it take you a while to recover?

Thanks Frank for you response.  What you are saying does relate quite well to my current situation.  I am currently in process of a huge career change and totally different lifestyle that I believe is right but extemely hesitant.
I understand what you are saying by subjective interpretation.  Lately I have been blown away by the instant progress of my intuition and need to get a sort of system at understanding the symbolism.  It all hits me so fast and unexpected though.  But I think you are saying, if I interpret something like 'red' for love or war, I should interpret red the same everytime from then on.
I usually don't mention dreams for this reason, but this one was so unlike anything I have ever experienced.  Complete peace -I guess could describe it.
Anyways, thanks again

A few nights ago I was lucid dreaming and in this dream there was much fighting among me and people.  A moment later the dream reshaped and I came to the realization a war was going on.  I asked this man holding this mega huge gun why all the war and how can this war could be stopped.  He replied something like...  Everyone is holding on so tight to this materialistic world.  I then understood that the only way to stop the war was for this world/planet to cease to exist.  After this, somewhere in my subconsious, I agreed to carry on with this solution.  The entire world Shifted into billions of 'pieces.'  As the world shifted out of existence It seeemed that it actually never did exist--I could actually feel it as the beginning and end of time simultaneously.  I then recieved this extremely intense and high-pitched ringing through my ears.  The instant I realized this had all happened I also realized that I was billions of miles away from anyone or anything.  Perhaps that everyone was equally spread throughout the vast universe.  Extreme loneliness set in and I didn't like it.  Soon I thought, if I keep this up any longer it might be permanent.  So I pulled back from the agreement and back to this world. Then I woke..totally freaked.  If anyone has heard anything like this or experienced something quite like it, plz respond, I am quite intrigued by it.  Perhaps this feeling was universal harmony?

hey krev...I'v had the same issue from time to time.  I'm not sure what it is but I get it seems to problem seems to originate in the solar plexus.   For me it can either rise and give me burping sensations as well as go down and release the 'astral winds'..lol.  I usually just try to relax and let it take its course and things seem to balance out soon enough.  So from this I'm guessing its a sort of Imbalance!

well remember that our birthdays are not just random...the time we are incarnated to this world is much more specific.  This gives notion to astrology and what not

I don't know if I messed my heart center up or not, but I this past week or more it has been itching...no rash or anything, it just itches right in the very middle of my chest... does anyone know what the hell this is.. its so annoying.  Any ideas greatly appreciated

usually when I get the colors swirling in my third eye, I get patterns of a specific color, then they form to make pictures of people... its really freaky... people I would never think about on my own.

slightly off topic, but where should you energy ideally reside... the crown, heart, or all?  Or is it more of a wave, while constantly cyclying through each vortex.  Something I'v been contemplating for many days now.

I can get stuff to blurr almost completely as well... I am intrigued yet scared...it's not bad for your eyes is it?

It doesn't matter whether or not you feel the alplha, theta waves... etc.  All that matters is that you are continuously focusing.  And by focusing on obtaining the state of mind you desire by thinking about wave forms... the state will come naturally.  The moment you cut it down is when it stops working

I can usually get mine going no problem by simply giving the brow chakra a good scratch and continue focusing on the sensation.  Also use the "om" mantra.. it help as well.   Just believe the energy is going there and it will... faith is important

neutrino the rocking sensation is definately a good sign.  I believe thats the stage right before the projection if not that is your astral being breaking free.  I am pretty sure I am on the same page as you actually!  The last time I tried,my rocking sensations occurred in my solar plexus actually.  But yeah no luck yet but bound to happen sooner or later.

well I agree with the energy build up theory.  This is how I am thinking of this.  You have a bag of water and there is a hole in it.  Now if you put pressure on the bag the water will shoot out at a greater pressure because of the size ratio.  So by this highly pressurized stream of energy it is hitting hard into other energy channels simutaneously over stimulating them thus causing the "ticklish" sensation.     This could be thought of in other ways such as pipes where the intersection between to channels is very small in one or more direction hence creating an unequal distribution of flow.