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I read the book I think what Robert was getting at is that neg entities that haven't already attached to humans (if it's a recent incident) running water will stop them cold.  If it's the case they did attach ie I guess program the mind (through telepathy/hypnosis negs can do) then you would have to do meditation exercises and core image removal to expell them.  The aromatherapy part was pretty good I like how he mentioned about marjoram that really does relax you to do good meditation exercises he didn't mention about sandalwood about everyone I hear praises that as meditation incense but still he mentioned other ones like rosemary which is somewhat similar.  I guess just try it out get a submersive water pump rap it around your bed, fill a bucket of water and put the pump/hose in it see if it helps if not got to do more work/effort to remove them however even if they do attach to a human it still drains them of some energy it does have some effect on them.

you have to go through some pages but it takes you basically to this webpage where you can click on the archive radio show:

http://www.live365.com/stations/288830?site=walkercollier

I've read most of the book and have to admit I really like this book than any other exorcism book on the market because they don't give you any practical things to work with except affirmation prayers which is not enough.  I have to admit the crossing water technique is worth the book price alone it really does work (to a certain degree), I'm looking to get telluric water I know you can get the water from lourdes france (expensive shipping costs though) be nice if there was one place in southern, ontario canada somewhere advertised but how many people are looking for this which makes this rare to find.  I was reading on the web telluric water has some sort of magneto field in it and pipeline company's are writing things about it on the web ie about it and geomagneto storms affected by it etc.. so it must affect the physical body somehow even better than the regular running water, it probably like robert says about bodyawareness exercises etc.. it disrupts the subtle energies so those things can't attach on as easily.  This is probably the most advanced exorcism book on the market and everything in it is true ie about telepathic/hypnotic demons makes perfect sense there, nobody has explained it like that in other exorcism books.  I can feel that there could be a sequel to this book because I think there are many other techniques (meditation/exercises etc..) or things that can be discussed more elaboratly but still is a darn good beginners book.

After reading some of robert's book and seeing what my brother (phobia schizophrenia) has gone through it sounds like the demon is telepathic with you trying to get control of your mind and body trying to mess with you using fear (he did the same to my bro said politicians and such are after him etc..).  If this just started recently then it's pretty easy to break it just go on a crossing water stay there for awhile, if it has been recent it should break whatever this is (could be a curse/karma thing).  The next best thing, I can't believe it's working (no effort in meditation or the sorts) is Robert's crossing water thing is really helping my bro, whenever he starts to hallicunate, we bought a submersive small hose pump and wrapped it around the bed for crossing water, everytime that thing starts to make my bro hallucinate (in his chest makes his whole body pulse) he goes into the bed and after 30minutes it's gone, the pressure in his chest comes down.  Thats probably another good thing to do if you get those thoughts coming at ya, go into the bed with the crossing water around the bed and see if they disappear chances are they will.  And get robert's book on some meditation exercises to build up some mental defenses.

technically we're supposed to endure any pain in life mentally or physically just like Jesus endured the pains on the cross and the guy who betrayed him Judas hanged himself, if he repented asked for forgievness he would of been spared.  If you are suffering from spiritual attack and it causes you to commit suicide (or you're born with a mental illness physically)I don't think you end up in hell but you're still in the low planes some call those plains purgatory (remission of sins by reliving them over again til you correct yousrelf).   But if you take your life because your life wasn't doing great then I think you have responsibility there and be judged accordingly (just like Judas for example who hanged himself he was sane).

I know of one guy who astral projects (professional like robert bruce) and said of his relative who took his life with a gun, and he was in hell/lower astral plains and the only way he could save him is to take the guys sin and relive them in his life which the angel told him so it wasn't worth it  so he didn't bother so it could be "dangerous" sometimes to even try and help souls that are lost for good, I guess it's different if they're in pugatory or close to heaven and need some assistance.

like robert says stick to what method of exiting works, I find the rope/waterski/ technique to be hard to assertain the thought and too much pressure being applied to the chest like I get mentally exausted, but the rope is a darn good technique when you really do astral project but can't move and stuck to your body i simply did the rope technique and broke free easily just pretended i was climbing a rope  and broke free.  The techinique that i use at first that is most favourable to me is the rotation technique (maybe because it's like the carnival rides I liked and I hated climbing ropes in gym class maybe that plays a mental factor) that has helped me project one time i was successful after 4 weeks of doing robert's techniques/new ways.

oh ya i forgot to mention this happened to me, when you dream of something with the same theme more than 2 times ( 3times) this happened to me then it's most surely going to happen.  I kept dreaming that they were going to open up across the street (competitor) and there were no stores at the time (impossible for them to pen)  I kept dreaming it atleast 3 times saying in my dream they're opening across the street mom. it came true after 3 months the store across the street went bankrupt and the competitor snatched the spot immediately and opened up the store.  so its true when you see a dream with the same theme more than a few times it's most likely going to happen.

Like someone who posted stated get a dream dictionary one that makes sense though to you try this one out book is called The Dreamer's Dictionary by Stearn Robinson and Tom Corbett.  Another thing you can do is if you want the symbolism to go away and dream it literally as if the dream is telling it to you as it is I recall in Dr. Joseph Murphy's book telepsychics you can also buy this book he wrote a chapter on dreams and interpretations he said if if you say this and believe it before you go to sleep you will get most of the time your dreams interpreted as they are happening prayer goes like "I dream literally and clearly and remember all my dreams" so you can say that as a lullyby before you go to sleep.  I guess it's nice to know ahead of time usually when you dream something it tells you within 2 weeks of whats going to happen (usually) and also I remember hearing that the best dreams to believe are the last ones when you're about to wake up and remember when at tha time your body is fullly rested and not in the way the first dreams maybe just be fantasy and not future reality.

I haven't read robert's book yet but I think Robert's PSD is a necessity.  A lot of people practice BLACK magic, how the heck are you going to know how to undo BLACK magic if you don' t know what WHITE magic is?  I have a brother (schizophrenia phobia) who was influenced by black magic (in the womb it started).  I prayed for God to bring someone to help him and guess what he was faithful he brought three people in my life all who know how to astral project which is amazing not everyone knows astral projection, the second last projector left and as soon as he left(materialistic reasons) brought another one to replace him right away (amazing how god works in mysterious ways), he gave me a sign then when the guy gave up he gave the new guy a sign to help my mom when she was in contact with him.  PSD is a necessity, don't know how good/effective it is though but it's logical sound (ie crossing water thing others I verify as true, new guy mentions to feed the fish boiled rice every saturday in crossing water) and I have to read PSD first (waiting for a copy of it) also talk with the new guy working on him on what he has to say about it.  Robert does show he cares for those who are psychically negatively influenced, Robert himself said I heard Art Bell's program two occasions he was influenced and said how he got out of those situations and I can see why Robert would want to produce a book like this.  But it's true though if nothing is wrong with you mentally/physically (from spiritual attack) don't need the book but can read it as if it's a owner's manual to your mind and body in case it breaks down from unseen influences.

I guess it would be true to some extent you have lots of extra energy of course if you channel it towards sex then obviously you will get a strong sexual drive.  What I noticed when I was doing NEW the wrong way when I was passing energy through my entire body (including the private parts)instead of on the sides then into my belly I could literallly get that thing up not because I thought anything sexual just because I was passing energy through it.  I wonder what effect immune boosting herbs have for raising body energy level does it have an effect on obe because it also seems to increase energy even for the sex drive as well.

it happened to me one time I induced what robert calls astral sight.  I was just saying a simple prayer for my bro and saying it over and over again while I was in my bed and would wake up say it fall back to sleep but one time I said it whie falling back to sleep and next thing you know I was in the first floor of my house maybe my bro was in that room at the time, I couldn't move around or anything just stuck at that position then next thing ya know I turn my head and then the scene switched and I see the blind shades and light coming into my room (realized I was in my body looking with my eyelids closed) freaky stuff.  I think one can induce astral sight if thinking about someone or praying for someone.

the internet is one area where they can track your activity for example doubleclick ads network was doing that and still is doing if they see you visiting a specific category ie say kids stuff then they'll later on start throwing kid stuff ads on other sites that show doubleclick ads etc...  what is freaky is this microchip thing and they say the military are the guinea pigs to test this thing ie their national id and it can also be used as a debit card.  So imagine they track everything you do, even locate where you are (if they have GPS technology in the future) at any point of time.  Oh gee we wouldn't need a large police force to keep crime down and wouldn't need officers to give tickets, they'll send it in the mail. All this boils down to is automation and job cutting.  They call it the new world order, the only thing that I don't like is they have problems with wars/terrorism and want to become one government in the future, one religion, one education system, one economy etc..  How can you force people to follow a new system when everyone has their own set of beliefs/thoughts?  The catholic church which is like 1billion christians hasn't changed or doesn't plan on changing to adopt to the new one belief system.  I think the same with the muslims to which is the second highest population in religion.

I recall reading in dr. joseph murphy's power of your subconscious mind book you can't be anxious or try to force anything (even astral projection) because automatically you're accepting defeat in some sense.  The best like others have stated have have to be like in a desirous mood thats when you get results I think (like in the bible says delight yourself in the lord and he'll give you the desires of your heart), then your subsconscious mind works out to try and make your desires come true.  Its weird you astral project when you least expect it, all you can do is make it like a daily ritual and don't get angry or anxious that you didn't accomplish anything just keep hacking away til the day breaks and the shadows flee away (another quote from the bible).  I have to admit I got a little anxious when I astral projected the first time, now I can't do it anymore I have to get back into the desirous mood again.

we do live after we leave our body, I got the rare opportunity of the reverse happening instead of trying to visit the deceased the deceased came and visit me (only God would allow this to happen this is rare).  My grandmother passed away and a week afterwards at the same hour/same time she came to visit my mother in her sleep, she saw a slamming door and then got afraid and woke up and had partial paralysis.  I think she gave up on my mom and went to me immediately after. The same thing I had in my dream about the slamming door but this time I knew what to do I saw stories about ghosts so I said why not get a tape recorder so I wasted time in my dream finding one then I went to the door and then spoke to it then intuively I knew it was grandmom and she spoke in her language (not english), I could of said I'm listening or something didn't know that I wasted a lot of time but anyways I was the one asking her questions like how is it over there she replied to me saying it's always summer here and oh geez I would of asked her a million questions but I was waking up and saw myself partial paralyzed and talking in my sleep and she even knew that I was waking up too so she immediately spoke to me about a private matter what to do while I was waking up forcefully (body was being depleted of energy).  I can prove to you atleast you will live atleast 7days after you die, I think you do live forever though if my grandmom did it.  Exactly how Robert Bruce put it in astral dynamics that the departed maybe aided by angels to communicate with the living, that is exactly what happened to me.

Also the marian apparitions (virgin mary) are also increasing around the world, one site in medjugorje claim they have the 10 secrets (6 visionaries receiving the secrest) and are going to release them to the public few days before they happen. First few secrets will be signs from God and the last ones will be chastisements that can't be eliminated (only reduced by prayer/fasting).  So far 3 of the 6 visionaries have all 10 secrets from 1981 til now, the other three have around 9 secrets out of 10,  these people also are adults now so I can see around (can't be exactly though) around year 2010 and on the events will start to unfold as soon as all of those 6 visionaries receiving all 10 secrets.

I'm very curious in OBE also a christian, I had my first one by mistake, I had an ear infection when I was a child, went into my pharmacy with my mom and collapsed on the floor and I was actually hovering above seeing my body from above, also hearing my mom screaming for help, also remembering seeing myself being put into the ambulance.  I've met 3 people from very different religious backgrounds first one was catholic christian other one I think wiccan and the last one indian.  This talent is for everybody for any person like others are pointing out, has nothing to do with any religion it's a god given gift.  The three people I met was from my prayer being answered for my brother's phobic condition, amazing how God brings people to help others in need and what was interesting I was given signs few days before I came across them also the last  person was given a sign from God  to help when the previous one left/gave up.  What I also notice the last person I met that can obe, he meditates 4 hours a night, the previous one said only 1 hour, I think it makes a big difference the more time you spend meditating the more stronger you become spiritually and more things you can do I think.  Every person who can obe is different, most I've seen out there are into materialistic gain (won't do it for charity) but there are some who are the most powerful/spiritual are the ones who do it out of charity and that spend more time meditating.  God is charity he created the universe, he wants us to help others and we become blessed if we do charity work be it anything especially helping a neighbour who is an enemy.  What's freaky when I pray the rosary (catholic faith) my crucifix turns gold (ie one time the spikes/body/thorns then the edges/inri sign turning gold), also mother mary just recently her forehead an imprint of a diamond shape was on it (third eye most likely) like I'm actually being encouraged on the otherside to learn about obe so I may someday become like the others.  Even though the evangelists/religious sectors love to scare people away from it but it's something we all have this talent is built into us like bible says greater is he who is in you than is in the whole wide world, or in one quote it says we have a celestial body. Proof in the pudding I'm living by experience OBE is a natural thing believe me.