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Thanks upstream.

My intention is to achieve OBE/AP through the method of when going to bed, getting into trance state, focusing on some of the things you have said, and continue to do so until it works. I don't think the waking up from deep-sleep 4-5 hours (heard the method before in regards to lucid dreaming) technique is for me, or rather I don't resonate with it.

Thanks for all your comments. Much appreciated. []

a la Atlantis

I think awareness to 11's lead to awareness on the rest of the master-numbers.

In fact, each multiple of 11 has significant and particular meaning. Like odd-master-numbers like 11, 33, 55 are grouped in a transitional blend while even-master-numbers like 22, 44, 66, 88, are grouped for the 'other' purposes.

Sorry for the above paragraph. From reading it, it barely makes sense, but I mean to imply that master-numbers are cryptic and are meant to be translated in simple form.

Once I validated 11's and 33's, 22's and 44's came. After them, 55's entered. The higher numbers I do not see as many times because I only pay attention to clocks usually. However 888's have been common lately, which I believe arise from the validations of 22's and 44's.

My two cents anyway.

upstream, I think my computer is partially posessed by a spirit or demon or something because I've typed out two long responses and both times my mouse goes nuts and the computer freezes. It usually happens when I have something else to do, like go to practice my Qigong stretches...that might sound crazy, but ah well. I'm so frustrated from having lost my last posts. Anyways.

I wont go into the same detail again since I don't want to flip out from the mouse going postal again. I was basically saying how, at first, I would get into trance by focussing on my breathing-regulation, as to dilate the blood vessels in my body, slow down the brain hertz per second in my brain, and therefore transition my state of mind to deep alpha and perhaps light theta. But last night after reading TL's post, it didn't really speak about breathing-regulation, so I didn't do it, and nothing particularly evident occured last night because of it. So I guess breathing-regulation is necessary for the first few stages...By your post, I think it's clear I'm doing some things wrong. I've kind of had the thought in the back of my head that I need to open up my 3rd eye before being able to comfortably move through such states.

quote:To reach that state, you should deepen your sleep by circulating etheric substance around you and putting pressure on your epiphysis (?).

epiphysis? Even from the online definition, I'm not sure how I can focus pressure on it. Can you elaborate? Actually, could you elaborate a little more on this entire sentence? Do I just do this by visualizing the bioelectric field (aura) around me circulating? Feel it, like the NEW technique, or visualize, or both?

quote:First, move your attention to the periphery of your energy body and try to circulate something gaseous matter around you. Gradually, move the focus closer to your body and accelerate the spin of the vortex around the height of your neck. Repeat the sweep many times. This practice will further relax you by sucking bioplasm out of your muscles. In this stage there is no double to spin.

I'll do my best, but this sounds kind of new to me. As if, only NOW does someone actually give some solid step-by-steps to enter the state(s). My comments in my last paragraph still stand.

quote:To detach the double you have to be asleep. To do that, you should put a "pressure" inside your head while you breath out inertly after a deep intake and short holding of breath. You should do it for many times in row with rests and/or vortex-like circulation inbetween them.

Sometimes I am compelled to push my eyes upwards intensely. This creates pressure inside my head, I would suppose. Besides for that, I'm not really sure on what exactly to do. Perhaps tonight I'll just focus on your upper-paragraphs of the energy circulating around me after/while doing the breathing-regulation.

quote:I suppose the pressure will force the epiphysis to release its melatonin pool which will knock you out, by forcing stage#3 sleep. At that point brain-bound consciousness can't be kept and your field of consciousness forced to detach being interpreted as a double.

Thanks for the info. You've basically just summed up everything one has to do to OBE properly. I only 'beg' for some elaboration on the above paragraphs.

Should I imagine the energy circulating from above towards my feet and from below towards my head?

Thanks again upstream.

If you are in a typical 'trance-relaxed-state' (farthest I've gone), perhaps with moderate vibrations sweeping through your body, what effect does the spinning visualization have?

Can it (spinning) alone lead you to some interesting effects?

Appreciate all your thoughts T.L. I'm glad Phong directed me to your article(s).

Good analogy Phong.

I, for one, have a clearer outlook because of your thoughts in this thread.

Grazie.

Manix, sounds to me like you're going the right path....same path as me []

Manix, the prickling sensation is your body de-sensitizing.

When your in the deepest state you think you can possibly get into, try imagining that you were suddenly given the powers of the Universe or something really exciting that usually makes you shiver. That 'can' trigger the vibrations everytime if focused and concentrated on.

Also I wanted to note something I experience:

When I'm getting my body into the deep-alpha state, of nearing trance. It usually takes a certain thought that triggers the usual 'wave' of tinglings through my body. Like the chill you get when something you read resonate from your soul, or when you see the super-hero arrive to save the day....that feeling, the feeling I actually am getting right now when typing this.

When that happens, it usually sparks my relaxed state to the trance state of my body vibrating. Very awesome indeed. At this state, I love focusing on tingles on my forehead, a little bit on the third eye, and brushing techniques from the NEW system.

Just wanted to share that...

Phong,

Your post was highly useful. You've made me realize that when I'm in trance-state, I put too much local-mind intent (conscious control) in the process and therefore I'm naturally grounding myself away from doing precisely the opposite!

It was the same when I was learning to image-stream. It's so simple yet so oblivious to someone trying to learn to AP.

Thank you very much.

Can I ask for some rope-like methods that you use? Or perhaps what you used originally as your primary ways to get-out -- AP?

Nay's suggestion about walking around the room, using the senses, helped. A diving in the water one, even though it sounded promising, didn't seem to work for me (not my personal flavour I guess, or maybe I was consciously too grounded at the time).

Anyways, any other techniques that you (phong) can provide would be most appreciated.

Namaste.

22:33:55 is your post time Phong.

For master-number junkies like myself, I have a question: "Are you jesus?"

j/k

Hmmph, this forum sometimes confuses me. It has so many cool functions that I haven't seen on other places, but sometimes it says someone replied, yet when I check, there is no reply.

For example "Nay" was checking out the thread and when I checked the active topics, it said Nay had replied. I went over to check and Nay is said to be viewing the thread, but alas, no reply...

[:O]

[I's]

Even though I know a lot in some sections, I still depend on the other light-workers to help me fill in the gaps of all the other territories I am vaguely familiar with.

Like, how do you find your "Mayan Number"?

I was born at 11AM.

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What you speak of sounds like more than just a 'kindred spirit'. When incarnating, especially with light-workers, you visualize many incarnating individuals (male and female) as all fragments of 1 entity. Kind of like if a light-being "JOHN DOE" wanted to come in at a certain point in linear time to fool around with a certain set of primary events, it would not just incarnate as one individual. It would incarnate as many. (I'm finding it hard to concentrate today, so bear with me if my response is crude. I believe I'm being attacked sometimes through hyperdimensional triggers causing my body to release chemicals that befuddle my thoughts, especially when answering questions such as yours)

Anyways, so the above may clarify what that womans relation is to you. There are many I's of the same being within the population. So this woman could be 'one' of your counterparts. Remember to 'feel' for her connection with you, rather than any normal coincidental interests which may be more superficial. Looking in her or (his) eyes can give a lot of subtle, subconscious validation.

11's in many cases lead to "the search" that dwells within our subconscious drives. Before incarnating and 'forgetting' our memories (stored within our cells), we planned specific triggers to occur in certain moments in life. These triggers would 'hopefully' allow us to gain the will-power to break the strain forced upon us by our programming, and to pursue the metaphysical (maybe the wrong word. Again, it's hard for me to concentrate right now. I'm trying to describe it the best I can)

Indigo children is a term people use when they are oblivious of what is occuring in the next wave of humans. Children are being born with 3-DNA strands and perhaps even more. The rest of us are recieving light-rays from solar-flares, supernovas, regular sun-rays, that are breaching through the ozone layer. Those holes in the ozone layer (funny enough the one in Australia that is well known) are actually GOOD things rather than something to be scared about like TPTB are trying to suggest. For instance, if the ozone layer dissapeared one day, our bodies would adapt rather than burn up to oblivion.

Most concepts of what we should fear are incorrect and used to keep us from revelations, realizations, and what-not. The moon for example emits frequency controls to the entire planet. It regulates birth-cycles and triggers the hormonal reactions to the populace that makes us overpopulate. The moon originally was not designed to do so, and with the transition, it will be restored to its original frequency emition. For example, women will only be able to make love for the purpose of concieving a child, once a month, rather than overload as it is now. Another thing is that women do not know that they have TOTAL power over if they have a child or not. Because of the lack of knowledge of bodily control, people think it is necessary to wear condoms and all of the other birth-control innovations.

Hmm...rambling.

It's most likely you already have an additional strand of DNA if you were labelled 'indigo'. If not, you'll be recieving them one-by-one in the coming months + years. It's vital that you maintain a deep-breathing regime and/or stretching-breathing techniques like Qigong or its branched techniques. These types of regimes develop your bodies' bioelectric circuitry. In short, it adapts your body to BE ABLE to recieve and properly interpret the light-rays. Being out-and-about in the sun is very good too. Just 10 minutes on each side of your body can purify and cleanse many of the things that are being induced into you, like the flouride in tap-water. I have plans to make a simple water-purification device, but at my age I need to be clever to be able to make proper connections so as to fund these types of ventures properly.

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Back to that woman. She may just be another "I" counterpart, so don't worry about it being 'love' or meant to be as a soul-mate.

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I guess that's enough for now. Sorry if it's hard to follow.[]

A couple days ago I found out what these particles are called.

Red Dragon (I could give him a big hug) said it: "Mote".

Search it at dictionary.com.

Like I said, no further comments from me on this, but I wanted to just post a reply from a friend of mine. He runs the montalk.net website:

quote:The guy is channeling disinformation, IF he's even channeling. The tone of
what comes through is low frequency, something along the lines of a grumpy
discarnate entity, if not made up by SD himself. Even when something
speaks through another, the frequency and tone gets through, but not so
with this guy.

Also notice that "M" misunderstands questions - that can only be so if the
originator of the answers come through 3D thought process rather than
archangelic knowledge.

Next, notice that his stuff does NOT mesh with the C's/Ra material except
on the superficial things that don't affect our own spiritual progress,
our understanding of hyperdimensional reality, or our ability to transcend
the Matrix control system. M talks about multiple universes, but when it
comes to an actual topic like reptilians, organic portals, etc ... he
takes the "don't pay attention to that, it's not important" or "that's not
true" or "here's a smart-butt answer that sidesteps your question" approach
without EVER explaining why or giving more details.

Remember, STS forces tell the truth when convenient. Other times, they
suppress or divert it. M reminds me a lot of "The Author" of Matrix V. Not
saying they're the same person, but they do have the same tone and vibes.

Here's what he advocates:

- doing rituals to get in touch with "archangels" (michael, gabriel,
metatron, etc... are terms heavily promoted in the disinformative type of
channeling. Same goes for mother sekhmet, saint germain, sananda, etc...
These rituals uplink you directly to 4D STS, so of course something will
seem to "guide" you when you do them.)

- that reptilians are not real, and there are only some grays. (then who
made the grays? and why do abductees remember encounters with reptilians?
Why are some reported grays more reptilian in appearance - I've seen one
myself - suggesting they are hybrids but crossed with what? obviously a
reptilian. Why are there ancient accounts and depiction of reptilian
beings, such as the carvings at Mohenjo Daro, Mayan building statues,
ancient figurines, and elsewhere? Why do many world political leaders
obviously hosted by something evil have facial structures that look
reptilian, suggesting the reptilian energy functions as a template to
shape their physical growth over the years? Why are dragons so popular in
mythology from europe to asia?)

- that M occupies 27th density. Is that a joke? He has no understanding of
what a density is. Also funny that "The Author" of Matrix V claims to get
his knowledge from monroe's Focus Level 27. Why do disinformation sources
always use the same symbolism and terminology? Oh yeah, because it all
comes from the same originator.

My opinion is that SD is either making this up (lying, basically, and it's
more funny that later he said that the channeling sources you have
"verified" could be lying, something of a projection on his part) or else
he's tapping into the channeling disinformation pool that others connect
to, like these people: http://www.quatloos.com/NESARA.htm  (scroll down,
in the left column are some audio files called "message from Lord Sananda"
and "afternoon with Mother Sekhment" - listen to one, and you'll know what
I'm talking about).

Later SD says this:

"Let me tell you one thing. If anyone ever claims ANY CHANNELING IS
"VERIFIED" they are full of it. The only way to know for a fact is to be a
watcher of the channeling itself, and you can't really do that very well
over the internet. Even at that viewing is not always a good way to know
if something is genuine, because the guy could easily be lying. You can't
know for a fact that a channeling is true, unless you do the channeling
yourself, and even at that you have to be a "master" at it. These so
called "elders" don't know what they are talking about, sorry to say."

Obviously he doesn't know the meaning of the term "discernment" or
"research" or "intuition". You don't have to be at a channeling to know
that it's legit. I attended a cass session myself, and could see myself
that no one at the board was making it up because the letters came too
quickly and the answers were of things that the board operators themselves
couldn't know (like personal details, answering the question correctly
when even the board operators didn't understand the question themselves),
but in fact, how it's done is inconsequential since what matters is the
material that gets through, which anyone can discern for himself as to
whether it's worthy or not. As I pointed out above, M gives crappy
information that's often false or contradictory or avoids answering the
question or misunderstands it completely.  

What does it take to verify channeling? That it's self-consistent,
independent of the channeler's level of confusion or ignorance, that it
explains things better than any other theory out there, that no facts
disprove it's main premises, that it has a lucid and wise vibe and
demonstrates this through the conciseness and accuracy of answers given,
that it respects freewill but nevertheless intentionally guides one toward
the truth, and that it makes statements which later are verified through
independent research and experience.

Attending a channeling is one way for 4D STS to use their tricks to add a
"wow" factor to convince the gullible with levitations and balls of light,
things that have nothing to do with the material given by the channeing
itself.

Feel free to post this email to the board.

From the manner I see you research, SD, I am done speaking in regards of this topic.

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(last BB post in regards to this thread and Michael)

[My final note:]

True enough LOTB.

I think I have said my peace. We all have our own realities and perhaps I'm consuming myself with trying to get others to see mine.

Foolish indeed.
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Anyways, back to creative-writing of fictional worlds.

My final note: The draining effect that SD experiences was my initial point before I went 'postal'. That is my concern and also my thought on perhaps NOT asking SD to further summon Michael's energies.

I have a gut feeling that he is being distracted and diverted. He obviously creates a lot of energy. For that reason alone, manipulation to suck it out of him on a regular basis is a particular agenda.

Namaste.

I'm really low on energy today and I apologize for the term "BunnyMan", but that is where the 'rudeness' ends, SD.

Considering the big topics we are covering, I don't think it is a big deal.

Stick to the topic.

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EDIT: In hind-sight, I agree that from looking at my post(s), I've brought a bit of emotion into my thoughts and that allowed some 'abusive ad hominem' that shouldn't have been placed.

I apologize again. Today has been a rough day, and I will remain civil. []

[SUBJECTIVE]

There is structure. There is chaos.

Everything is quite simple if you do not overcomplicate the issue.

What you consider 'imperfection' or 'flaws' is due to your SUBJECTIVE bias, point-of-view, perspective. Take - Your - Pick.

Do cells of a body question the objective of the man or woman? That is how silly it is to assume such things from your shoes.

Perfection involves a preference. Perfection for a whale may be imperfection to a bear.

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I am not asking you to believe in what I believe. I AM saying that if you take the time to study the C-transcripts or the Ra-material, or perhaps both, you will realize that when someone claims that the Universe has "flaws" or that it is "imperfect" or whatever, it is due to their subjective interpretation. Cellular insanity, if I would be so bold to call it that.

Birth in the realm of 3D brings a lot of confusion when a foundation of objective knowledge is not presented to a child. Time is misunderstood. Amnesia from 'before' is in deep-lingo.

Do you know what your brain does? It converts THOUGHT into MATTER.

All you can see is MATTER and so you do not understand that all there REALLY is, is THOUGHT.

The way you think BunnyMan, is through using your limited perspective to set YOUR 'expectations' upon the UNIVERSE. You are playing the role of a CELL questioning the BODY, except not through knowledge but ignorance.

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I apologize for being bold and I think even particularly rude, but I am putting effort into my words and trying to spark the scholar in you to perhaps consider stepping back, or flying up a few miles up in to the air so to observe EVERYTHING from the eyes of a bird. The virtue of objectivity.

This is the path of practical enlightenment.

Aileron,

Basically I go from site to site, and try to sift from what resonates with me. Usually no site is ever dominantly accurate, but you can always come out with 'some' truth and then build on that 'some' when cross referencing with other opinions and sources.

That particular quote is from this website:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/skullandbones/index.htm
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm

The second link is where that quote is from, but the first link is interesting because it speaks about master-numbers in our skeletal structure. Of course, the perspective in which I'm speaking ("the call") has pretty much only came from my mouth so far. It's a conclusion that I am resonating with. That website, by the way, isn't particularly helpful, as it gets into master-numbers via other avenues rather than what I'm trying to define.

A more 'new-age' website has some worthy perspectives also:

quote:111 or 1111 Energy flow of water, money, sex, kundalini, magnetic
It happens when one of these energies manifests.


222 or 2222 In the middle of the proces of resurrection or the proces of ascension

333 or 3333 A decision number. Either one of the folowing can happen: 666 = material world or 999 = spiritual world.

444 or 4444 The Resurrection number.

555 or 5555 Christ consciousness

666 or 6666 Material world, chosen reality.

777: Symbolizes an integration of some portion of the four lower bodies with higher spiritual frequencies within the third-dimensional plane, or at level in which you are manifesting your physical reality on the Earth plan

888: Symbolizes infinity * The unified spiral of the physical merging with the Spiritual * Moving toward the completion of the ascension process through the energies of the 222 and 444

999: Symbolizes the three levels of the triune * completion.

Like I said, nothing is dominantly accurate (maybe I'm being harsh), but it can at least get us thinking. Afterall, if we 'are' light-workers, then the information is stored within our cells...just itching to be awakened through association, direct or indirect.

And it intrigues you Aileron for a very important reason. Maybe I'm becoming too much of a 'believer' and losing my sense. But let me tell you something.

We all have different centers in our bodies. Chakras or whatever you wish to call them. For half of humanity, their intellectual center is their highest. So logic and loop-like thinking is predominant in them and therefore they have the inability to CREATE.

The other half of humanity has accessibility to the higher-centers, the ones that reside within soul-pools, passively existing within the higher realms. Those who are intrigued with a passion are those who are most likely to establish a deep connection with that which defies logic and our step-by-step human-typical style of thinking. If we can become receptive to such forces WHILE still having our intellectual centers active, well...we have the best of both worlds, don't we?

It's like sailing in an ocean. Some go straight until they hit a rock or some sort of obstacle. Why? Because they do not have the ability to foresee. When you teach a kid how to ride a bicycle, what do you tell him/her? To look down and watch his feet cycle and cycle? Or do you tell him/her to look where he/she is going?

In life, the majority look down. The geniuses, the savants, the so-called illuminated, are simply the ones who learn to look where they are going.

Master-numbers, in the manner I speak of them, are subtle triggers for such awakening. If I'm right, then there are only millions of us within billions of logical 'crashers'. Out of those millions, how many of 'us' actually awaken?

That makes every single one of us very vital to a certain cause. A certain assignment.

quote:You must all remember, even the divine is flawed.

I am not going to respond to rubbish.

[the vision]

Great thoughts.

quote:As before mentioned, the number 11 has special significance.   In Numerology it is not reduced to a single digit.

It is a power number as is 22, 33 etc.   The number 11 represents the vision. The number 22 combines vision with action.   The number 33 offers guidance to the world.  The master numbers 11, 22, and 33 represent a triangle.   A triangle of enlightenment or illumination.

Now I personally believe that Master-Numbers are subtle signs equivalent to the hero's "call". Except "the call" is not for Super-Man and his literal archetypes, but rather light-workers.

I've come to believe that sources such as the Pleidians are correct about light-workers. First people must realize that TIME doesn't exist. Linear time is created by time-locks that reinforce primary-events. Like 2012 is a pretty good example of a primary event. Sources of disinformation even always admit to it.

If time doesn't exist, then reincarnation works backwards as well as forward. So I believe that light-workers incarnate backwards through linear-time. I believe there are millions of us, but we are engulfed among billions of regular incarnated humans. Moreover, the amnesia of birth keeps most of us so busy and distracted with real-life that we do not realize our hidden assignments, one being to meddle with time-locks, as to change history, so to speak.

I think seeing master-numbers, multiples of 11, are the subtle 'call' to those light-workers.

quote:I hope it doesn't turn on him..yikes.

If SD realizes that everything that he experiences, even if it is manipulation, adds to his experience and ultimately makes him stronger, then he'll know that no one here is witch-hunting against him. [^]

My concerns are for his wellfare.

-- There will always be truths (or half-truths) within the schemes of manipulation --

Lordofthebunnies, I don't have a lot of energy today,(sore from the gym) but I'll humour you.

Firstly, your knowledge in regards to C-transcripts is lacking.

Second, when I say something like this:

quote:All asian/oriental cultures root from the Lemurian race

When I say this, why would you respond with this:

quote:Hmm, if asian characteristics and practices like Yoga and Chi kung originated in Lemuria, then it wouldn't surprise me if part of Lemuria was a dynasty in China, like Michael mentioned. After all, there are many Chinese legends about their history that seems to go much farther back than anything we currently known.

Wouldn't my original comment make you think that by "All asian/oriental" I really mean ALL? I think China is a pretty good example of an asian/oriental culture...(s-a-r-c-a-s-m)

Sorry for my rudeness, but your response really makes me wonder what goes through your head when I say something that indicates 'hands-down' that China would be included.