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i've got one of those! inflatable. $60 bucks at wal-mart (i know )
it's excellent and can easily hold four people. two for sure stretched out with room to float pretty well. really nice under a full moon, but my favorite is in the rain!

yeah...bottled emotions for sure. the skeletal system representing the foundational thoughts. like the framing of a house. most likely crap that happened to her as a child. stuff she learned early on.

RIGID THINKING. need to soften her up a bit, loosen her up, and purge. kind of like a spiritual high-colonic. more than anything she will have to trust you...above & beyond what she may be capable of...that'll be the hard part. then both of you getting your hands dirty. don't expect immediate results. the whole process will involve her making herself completely vulnerable to you before the healing even begins. you might be able to gain her trust by being completely vulnerable with her?!? also think about doing the healing or the prehealing stuff someplace neutral like a park, or even the backyard. something that isn't in "her" territory. it'll be easier if she isn't in completely comfortable surroundings bcuz the ego tends to resist in a familiar environment (believe it or not).

thanks for the kind words james...i think we make a pretty good team

soul

true about the length of a tub.

epsom salts are cheap (drug store or grocery) under $2bucks for a good 3-5 lb. bag.

[real dep tanks however would be worth the price for anyone that's having trouble projecting or meditating!]

you can accomplish pretty much the same effect in a bathtub. low tech, but you save yourself 35-100 dollars/hr session. water should be body temperature, and supersaturated with epsom salt (@ 20-25%). turn off the phone, turn of the lights and voila. real dep tanks however would be worth the price for anyone that's having trouble projecting or meditating!
the temp. remains constant, relaxational music is piped in through the water, and there are no interruptions...save when your session is up.

i've been a few times and it was super relaxing, but since i have no trouble leaving my body and the physical world behind...the effects were nothing "special" and not worth the expense or trouble...kinda like a tanning bed

soul

okay i'm not james, but my birthday is in august...does that count!?!
and...i know a thing or two about stones/crystals.

originally sardonyx (or onyx) was the birthstone for august. it's reasonably priced and available more often in shapes like crosses or animals (fetishes).
it's more grounding than peridot (more ethereal/spiritual), but peridot can be found in nice small nuggets, beaded in long strands which is really pretty, and always useful for balancing those born in august.

the other three stones for august are diamonds, sapphires (ayurvedic), and jade which also comes in nice carved pieces & bangles. mystically the chinese believe jade to be petrified dragon semen (very potent & powerful)

i'm assuming your mother is a leo. since virgos (like me...tend to have more problems related to their digestive system). my step-mother is a leo and has the same problems as your mother (interesting).  it all has to with old, putrid, stored emotions that are not being dealt with. a difficult thing to heal all round. most of the time the person will get worse, before they get better...and this tends to hault the process. best of luck getting in there and chipping away at that solidified energy. the stones will help to loosen it up a bit first. since you won't be home till november. it's a good idea.

azurite works on bones & joints, as does copper. carnelian is good, and calcite is excellent (comes in many colors)!

i assume with the reiki work that you are serious about healing your mother, and as a practitioner i will also offer this because it feel it's important to your path. if you are not familiar with dr. hulda clark...you should be! a woman that is deserving of great respect in the holistic field.
her thing is parasites, and her experiences & wisdom will blow you away. i believe very strongly (which is rare for me) that her ideas about arthritis being the symptom of parasitic infestation are bang on. actually she believes everything from aids, autism, depression and cancer to be caused by parasite toxins...but i don't want to make her out to sound kooky! she's brilliant and i suggest you do some goggling in that direction.
i do warn however that parasite cleansing is very involved and must be accomplished in a very exact order starting with a master cleanse, hydrating the body completely, a liver cleanse, then the parasite cleanse. and regular maintenance of. (esp. if your mother has any pets). everyone is the house has to part-take or it's pointless.

my 2 cents.
333

plus...muscle testing or kinesiology is something you should pick up as well, and use in your work & daily life. dowsing w/ a pendulum is nice, but a quicker, more mobile method is with the fingers. it's really simple.
(it doesn't matter what hand/whichever is comfortable) place your thumb and index finger together with one hand. with the other hand place your thumb and pinky together. stick the thumb/pinky combo into the space created by the thumb/index combo and. what you are trying to do is pick up on the subtle difference/resistance that comes from yes and no questions. you are trying to pry your thumb/index fingers apart. typically a "no" will result in the fingers "resisting" and staying together, and a "yes" they will come apart. it may be the opposite however. simple ask for a "no" and test. then ask for a "yes" and test. after this it will always be the same. it's kinda hard to explain, but it's very easy to do.

pick up a stone. ask if it would assist in your mother's healing and test it. be prepared to test "yes" a lot. you will probably end up with a pile of stones/crystals and think it's not working...for people that have never been worked on before...they usually "do" need almost everything. retest asking which would help the most, etc. till you narrow it down to one or two.

i use this a lot for bach flower remedies, and picking out essential oils to blend up for healings. i also use it at the grocery a lot to pick out what my body needs instead of sedating comfort foods.

hope something in all this helps
333

okay...so what if i told you that i was schizophrenic, and that it was a very debilitating disease for me, that i'd suffered terribly as a child, and have considered killing myself several times because i saw no hope for myself???
what if your snide little useless comment happen to catch me on a really, really bad day, and just because it was more important for you to puff yourself rather than continue with any "intelligent" information...
i offed myself over it?

isn't there some "maturity" gauge for being a moderator?

anyhow seems you still can't answer the questions. doesn't matter anyway, because i don't believe in schizophrenia, and as far as insisting that your mind is your own and you are in complete control of it. you can have that! i'll actually go as far as agreeing with you (in particular), because it's obvious that it's something you very much need to believe in. i'm not sure it's anything worth bragging about mind you. you want your mind to be a steel trap that nothing gets in or out of? you want to believe you hold the keys? fine...keep reinforcing that wall and hopefully you'll always be safe and happy. my mind however is a park, a playground, a free and open space, and a wonderful river of intelligence runs through it.

i'm not concerned with petty things like right and wrong, but feel free to unload whatever garbage is getting backed up behind those walls. i'm sure it proves necessary at times. i have no problem composting it all and turning it back into something useful.

you win by default because there's obviously no competition here.
salute
333

defensive lola?

i'd like to say don't waste your time defending something that you needn't have personalized in the first place (what i offered was for silentshadow not you), but since you insist on always coming at me with the same dull energy then maybe you'd be willing to waste a little more of it in explanation, rather than retaliation?!?

what on earth leads you to believe i'm schizo? i'd ask you to back up your position on how you absolutely know for sure that you are in control of your mind...but we've been down that path before, haven't we?!? never did get a solid explanation on that one. i'm guessing it's because it can't be proven?!?

convince me...don't just throw a handful of words.
i know you want to be "right". i can feel that. i have no idea what to do about it however. i can't make you feel right. it's something that has to come from deep inside you and fill you up. when you really get to a place where the truth flows forth in unlimited supply...you'll no longer have a need to attack, and separate yourself.

love & light
soul

[some people can't see past the choices they don't understand]

yeah...do you play RPG's, read comic books, shop at wal-mart, masturbate, or have bad thoughts about other people?
ever flipped someone off? naughty-naughty!!! no dabbling in the etheric!
you might accidentally flip a switch.

god lola...you come across like some kind of nsa agent. silent is capable of thinking for herself. right?!? i mean you insist she is in ABSOLUTE control of her own mind, and then you follow up by telling her how she should be thinking.

she's already being stalked/attacked it doesn't get any worse than that (not really)...so what we are dealing with here is tactics for coping and moving on, not backing up and pretending all of it will go away. that's like being terrorized by a dog that has you cornered in the yard and everyone on the other-side of the fence yelling instructions at you. "the dog doesn't exist!" "you are in complete control!" "don't give your power away!"
.................yeah, right.

silent, the possibilities are up for grabs...follow your heart. in that much i think lola and i are on the same page, but i stress that you open your mind up to something beyond good and evil, where everything collides into some neutral zone where nothing is right or wrong...just different. it'll make what you're going through easier to work with. that was really my only point. if someone was beating the excrement out of you, or stalking you in real life...i'd tell you to call the cops, invest in a security system, buy a rottweiler, but we aren't dealing with the 3rd dimension here. i wasted a lot of time applying 3d rules to my situation. i don't want you to do the same. i'm pointing out options and that is all. i'm showing you doors...walking through them is up to you. i will remind you to be leery of ANYONE that stresses that they know exactly how it is, what it is, and how it should be dealt with. never trust anyone that says they know!
some people can't see past the choices they don't understand

other then that it's wide open.

time to come into your power baby. no doubt about that, whether you feel ready or not. it's no ones place to try and rescue you from yourself, not until you have fully explored all it has to offer, and if you reach the end of your rope you can always follow it back. god has your back, and if not that then at least trust in your higher-self which is an aspect of the "almighty". you wouldn't go to a mechanic because you had a toothache. i urge the same common sense here...inexperienced solutions are cheap.
take time and be patient with finding information that FEELS right. i'm not discounting anyone's input...just take it all with a grain of salt.
the way will come. always.

total respect
soul333

back again. was doing some pretty hard labor in 104 degree heat yesterday and had to recoup. didn't get round to posting last night.

psychic defense is my area of expertise (sort-a-speak). although the word "expert" is a poor one. it's a messy labyrinth on endless levels, and it draws on everything that exists, so even though i have a great wealth of experience in this realm...doesn't mean i know (edit). i do know that one thing it never is is black & white! it also doesn't follow human rule or laws, although it does utilize them extremely well. it has nothing to do with organize religion either, as religion came after the fact to help downplay this path to power. magic, mysticism, healing, divination, intuition and the like all got lumped together into the "evil" category with the goat-like god...men with power were tortured and slain, women with power were stoned, burned at the stake, and eventually over time all super-natural things were "cleansed" from our minds.
i'm not anti-religious...i just stress natural intelligence over any implied system, especially those under male governance. if it is important for one to consider them-self a christian, or buddhist, a muslim, a hindu, a satanist... whichever...if one wants to worship in a temple, or pray for assistance from the powers that be, dedicate their life as a missionary, etc that's all well and good, but it has very little if nothing to do with finding control over ones life. it is important to understand that religion is in itself a crutch; working to make people "dependent" rather than self-sufficient. people can argue all day about government as well, and which side serves better, but it is the same male-based, implied system that exists for nothing more than control, and dependence of the people...all leading away from our individual power.

we have a long way to go to work our way out of our dependence and bring back the skills that are rightfully ours. humans have this tendency (program) to "think" themselves at the top of the list, top of the food chain, top of the pyramid, etc. "god gave us special privileges and "rights" to do whatever we want and always come out on top"...so not so!

this is where i see that most people finding themselves under attack are actually in a place of enlightenment, but there's too much to it to explain it in one post.  it's also an area where i feel that the physical, astral, and extraterrestrial overlap. many people are opening up to many other levels of existence at this time and since GOD is typically viewed as the creator of ALL things, then it is complete ignorance to believe that this GOD exists in all absoluteness for us "humans" only.

those under attack are suffering a severe change in their perspectives. it's nothing we are capable of closing our eyes to, and my personal opinion is nor should we. it's difficult in any situation to have your mind "torn open". people who have undergone kundalini awakenings may understand this, but in the long run it is well worth the trip, the dedication, the work involved to get through to the other side...if there is of course a "final" destination. keeping the mind, the eyes, the heart open at all expense...that is the lesson that makes us stronger. in the beginning it comes across as "attack", because it "threatens" all we are "comfortable" and "familiar" with. in the long run it is something very different indeed... when you are capable of standing in a place outside of yourself, when there is no longer a desire to take everything "personally"...then there is no such thing as attack...and oh so much room to grow.

y'all know me...i can go on forever about how it all works, and none of it is relevant in the end. don't trust my words unless something feels right for i am only a messenger.

in this physical world people like to believe that they are in control, that it is their "natural" god-given place to rule and it's all so straight-forward. if you don't like job = quit, if someone is abusing you = leave, if you're sick = take medicine, if you're fat = go on a diet, etc. all so simple and clean cut, but the criticisms, judgments, remedies and solutions are so quick to roll of the tongue...in actual application they are far more difficult to carry out.

we DO have the ability to manifest whatever we need or desire, to heal and balance and re-create ourselves and the world(s) we live in. i'd hope that most people that have experience in the astral have a basic understanding of this. it does not come however through a weak mind, a lazy disposition or complete dependency on physical systems. only those that are capable of "letting go" and "putting aside" themselves/all they know and understand/all they think is going on...only those that open themselves up, or have agreed in the beyond to be "opened up" and remember to honor this agreement will move forward into this place of higher power. i hate to use guns as an example, but since this is a place to discuss "defense" i suppose it's fitting (and simple). i sit on the fence as far as gun-ownership is concerned, but i can say that it makes sense that the only people that should "own" guns should be mentally fit or compassionate people that are well trained and experienced with them. i would not like to walk around in a place where guns were handed out to every man, woman and child without a great understanding and respect for the tool they posses. the same goes for all powers "outside" the physical. if every tom, willy and harriet had to power to do whatever they pleased...things would end in total chaos.  

there is a reason that people dream, fantasize and play pretend. there is a reason people are drawn towards magic, the idea of manifestation and ultimate control over their lives. the ideas of being able to teleport ourselves wherever we wish, heal things with a thought, and step into some perfection of function physically, mentally, spiritually, etc. it is a semi-subconscious connection with a higher aspect of ourselves. we sense it, and it is there always for our utilization...however the steps and lessons involved in regaining that power is by no means a simple task. being a "good" person, going to church, having "faith", being open-minded, being "objective", serving and sacrificing for others whilst maintaining an open, balanced self, and a respect for all things...is all just the tip of the iceberg. lessons, lessons, lessons, and the experience that is gained from it all...constantly testing our strength, our wisdom, and FLEXIBILITY to "see" if we are able to handle "our" true power.

man...can you tell that i miss posting?!?
enough rapping on this...i'm sure.
for as far back as i can see, humans have been ripping through the gifts like depraved children on christmas morning. it is something of a higher function to stop every now again to reflect on all we have been given, and give everything a chance to fall into its "naturally" place...including us. i very much think we have forgotten something vital, and we search for it so very desperately on a daily basis. it is so subtle a thing that may only appear when we stop searching and quiet ourselves, and how ironic that we live in a time when the path towards that power is the opposite of "normal". for all the mysfits, weirdos and freaks...who are tagged as imbalanced, crazy, depressed, anti-social, introverted, over-the-top and too much to handle...know that if you are capable of juggling ALL of it, and not so much "protect" yourself from the normal, acceptable, status quo of others, nor protect yourself against all the new information that is streaming into you as your channel opens up...but instead devourer it, digest it, take what is useful of it at the time and keep rolling along...then you are well on your way to a place where the average folk can only EVER dream of.

my 25 cents.
soul333

in regards to C_P's comment on peoples minds being like a TV...that is a sensible analogy, and it works to a point...as far as changing channels are concerned...but i will protest on the idea that "we" are in COMPLETE CONTROL of our minds. WE ARE NOT...not at this time, not in this way. we cannot be the TV, the "PROGRAMMERS" & the "VIEWERS" at the same time (not in this physical realm that we insist we rule & occupy). that is part of the illusion that keeps us from waking up. once one begins to open up, and finds themselves under "attack"...every channel contains the same information, the same lessons...in various scenarios. once you begin to tune in, your frequency changes, and you begin to receive more channels from other stations, other programmers. it can and is a most complicated position to hold and maintain wellness, but "turning off" is no longer an option. you don't grow and learn and develop by turning off, numbing down, or BLOCKING! period!!!

Dear SSSilent SSShadow,
 Sorry for the delay in reply to your questions...Hurricane Dennis decided I could use a little down-time from the internet. Went through an interesting 15 days of withdrawal  ! anyway have no idea what happen with the powers that be and MustardSeed?!? I won't bother getting into how I feel about the idea of it all being in people's heads. You know it's real...I know it's real, and that's all that matters now. My reply (if I had been around) would have proceeded RunLola's tactic on a full-frontal attack. Unfortunately this comes too late...it won't work...not in the long run...it'll only make things worse, and I worry you are realizing this now. Forget about it. No harm done, just a regrouping of all energies involved. Destroying one makes the others stronger. Sort of dissipates and is absorbed by the others. You know the way people take shots for viruses...a little of a dead or semi-dead virus will make them immune?!? Same thing. The poker won't work again. Try it and see. They up their game, as you up yours. Even if you managed to find something that destroyed them...whoever is in charge or fascinated with your beautiful and unique essence will send in stronger, more organized replacements.

Reading through the last pages of posts I picked up two things...1) You're not completely validating your experience which came across in need to prove that you're not "stupid" (or crazy), and 2) that you aren't ready to "combat" these things...in that there is a strong message that has nothing to do with you being "weak". It's you're subconscious intelligence about the situation shining through...obey it! Do not waste your energy at this time making them in-fact...stronger than they need be.

I will write more later on today. Have to work now.
Just wanted to let you know that I'm still here for you.
It's most important that you FEEL smart, balanced, in-tune, aware, etc...then it is to have others "believe" it. Do whatever you need to do FEEL this about yourself for true. That's the most you can do right now.

Be back in a bit
Love Soul

venom?

wow...i think that's two pages now and nay and i still seem to be in agreement! yes dreams are the BEST! they don't need any scientific explanations, research, surveys...no one agree. nice personal, splendid dreams (even the rough ones).

exhausted?!? yeah buddy...join the club!!! try 30 out of 36 years. i don't even know what it's like to have energy anymore, or be enthusiastic about things. could just be getting old though?!? i already mentioned...get lots of sleep, eat really well and drink lots of water! that's about all you can do. there's something i'm going to share with you that i doubt will be helpful. you probably won't be able to sleep a lot. i couldn't...and i tried. it seemed to my parents like all i ever wanted to do was stay in bed, but i wasn't sleeping! it was another way for "them" to get in to my head, a more direct way at that. this is where things get tough. a vicious circle. the more i tried to sleep, the more i was attacked, and the more i wanted to sleep. there was only one thing that worked to curb this. i would lay in bed with my eyes shut and visualize whatever was pleasant to me. i was in my preteens/teens so a lot of it was dreaming about boys! like a surreal date. what he was wearing, what i was wearing, where we went, what we'd have for dinner, the kissing, etc. every single detail i could think of and all the dialog that went along with it..i'd go for about two hours like this. i guess it occupied my mind and put me in some kind of happy/trance place where i could fall asleep. this way i could at least get three or four hours in. i did this every night. it seems that the attacks were the worst just while i was falling under/asleep. that semi-conscious state. if i just laid there in the dark waiting to fall asleep...i could feel them moving in around me. i guess most kids have t.v.'s in their rooms now days...but i'll also warn about that. i think that electrical stuff is utilized somehow. easier to transmit or something?!? i don't just turn everything off...I UNPLUG IT!!! computer, tv, lights, no electric clocks, etc. it does seem to help a great deal.

do you feel electricity in the sheets when they're there? i can always tell when it's going to be a really bad night, bcuz there's this wave type feeling to my mattress, or like some giant snake is slithering through the insides of it, and all my hair stands on end, and i can actually feel the sheets floating over my body, and little sparks of static. it's bizarre!!!

someone mentioned that violetsky @astraldynamics is working on their case of attacks. you might try asking her for help?!? i don't have the ability yet to direct my energy like that. i do rescue work, but i've always just opened myself up to whoever's calling (human and non).
might be worth a try?!?

soul
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sorry, that question was for silent shadow. i wanted to know how experienced she was at projection & control in her dreams.

333

couldn't find much on the pink auras. all searches kept mentioning "immaturity" and i my experience that would make sense. a lot of shadow negs hold very low positions, and carry out bidding to raise their status on the ladder. not sure of course.

here's a link to the only site i could find that offered definitions of aura colors in both the positive and negative.

http://www.wingsofspirit.co.uk/aura3.html

hello nay.    first let me say that i'm flattered that you read my post. it was unexpectedly long, and yes you got my meaning correct, and no i'm not putting anyone down for being too busy or absorbed elsewhere. for those under attack...that distraction or ignorance (if you will) can cause a good deal of envy. you know me...i'm just always trying to change the mood of the 'victims' to something a little more creative and efficient; keep them moving in their thoughts so they don't get stuck on any one belief or idea. keep heading down the path. there's always a way out of everything, and where it involves focus...it also involves just as much non-focus (for lack of a better word). sometimes walking away from that math problem for a while...is the only solution. i also want to make clear that no one is "immune". that people aren't being singled out and attacked bcuz they're bad, or weak, or special or crazy, or whatever.

i know what you feel about me being under attack for so long...i can sense it, and it's okay. you are very correct that people can get addicted to the high of victimization and the attention and sympathy it garners. it is a very detrimental position to hold...one that people can't wake up from until they completely bottom out or worse! this was very likely my position in the early stages (i think the mentality is hereditary ), but i never talked about it with anyone, not at all really until a few years back. so attention from outsiders was never my goal. it was more of a self-sympathizing thing...still detrimental none the less.

it's a funny place to work from, but it seems to be my path for now...and that is why i still walk the beat in the astral ghetto. like a cop sees a lot of crime, disturbance, death, attacks, and negative elements...and i suppose one could question their motivations, their mentality for subjecting themselves to that, but it's a calling. they might be putting their life on line everyday, but it's that one person they save or help out of the dark that makes it all worth while. that is how i have come to deal with my attacks. i figured i was in it. so i might as well try and accomplish something in the process. you can think what you will of me...i don't blame you for being suspicious. it's only what works for me. i'm just a soldier.

knightlight made a good point. sometimes pretending you know what you're doing is more important than anything else. project the energy and the rest will come/fall into place. neo had to believe he was the one in order to be the one. it's still another belief system you can get trapped in, but for now that is not a factor.

q: (without having to read through a bunch of posts) do you AP or lucid dream?

i am all too familiar with the "masters" of the shadow tribes. they can be very intoxicating and passionate...and don't doubt their intelligence. they like young rebellious girls and strong-minded women. they love a challenge, and if they've 'picked you out of the crowd' you're gonna have a hard time turning them off. they see the real you, not the persona or act that everyone else gets. they might even/most likely see something that you don't even see yourself. you've got your own personal 'stalker' that works outside the rules. this is what can easily break someone down. the stress of being watched, being hunted. the only thing you have to work with at this time that might be of comfort is the obvious. with all his abilities he is unable to physically manifest for a long enough period of time to take you. it's impossible! neither can his minions carry out this bid. so in that...although it doesn't seem like much compared to all the mental abuse...know you are ultimately safe.

the only way to harm the reflection in the mirror is to harm yourself. THIS IS NOT AN OPTION! they may plant ideas in your head that it is a way out, but as i mentioned above...that's bcuz you would then no longer be in the physical...and you would be trapped for sure. i believe this is the direction for many people under obsessive type attacks where there is a bidder. that each and every move is made to break you down. make you more and more depressed and unable to cope. and eventually out of sheer terror and frustration...end it all. i am mentioning this only bcuz it is important to look down this path and see that two paths are actually super-imposed upon one another. one ends nowhere, the other leads to a higher function and freedom, and for a long time you may not sense a separation. you're mission is to do whatever it takes to sense the patterns and subtleties between these two paths. it's not always a higher and lower road. sometimes the dead-end path will appear most attractive, make the most sense, and seem easiest. you have to feel it!!! you can't see it with your eyes...only sense it with your heart and you eyes wide shut!        

where your intentions lay is key. if you want to get out...you will. and as nay so wisely pointed out...if you get off on ANY OF IT...you're trapped!

i have total faith in your heart.
yes it sucks, yes it's hard as sh*t, and no it's not fair...but just think that you are one step ahead of all those that haven't begun this trip yet. when you get through to the other end...you'll be there to help others and take their hand. once you have come out the other end you will have learned to let go of fear, doubt and disbelief...you will have freed your mind.

this is what i mean when i say there are two types of people. it only makes sense that those who are not under attack will push slightly away form those that are under attack. they will throw out antidotes and labels and work to define dysfunctions of the mind...but this is where the line is drawn. the ones who are under attack are dealing constantly with fear, and utilizing everything they can to dispose of it/avoid it/fix it/make sense of it (it consumes them)...in the end the solution is simple. let it go and you are free of it. the people that have not yet experienced these attacks in full have their trials ahead of them, bcuz instead of truly knowing fear, and that there is nothing to fear except fear itself...bcuz they avoid it or are too busy. they're only postponing the inevitable.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path
soul
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[tune in/turn on & drop out.]

yeah...band-aids, pats on the head, and blindfolds don't work in this realm. neither do crystals, sea salt, candles or tearful prayers. i've pretty much come to the conclusion that there are two types of people. those that know they're under attack, and those that don't know they're under attack. things are picking up and we're going to start hearing a lot more about neg attacks and abductions, etc. it's part of the awakening. a lot of people are still too busy trying to fit in...they're too DISTRACTED to pick up on anything that involves the high senses. plus a lot of people are sucking down sodas, and fast food/on their cells or plugged into television, games, etc/and on med's. there are a lot things out there that are/were developed to NUMB & DUMB down the populace. if someone is coming under attack...i believe it is bcuz they are waking up and tuning in.

it's funny that that was the huge cultural slogan thirty years back...
tune in/turn on & drop out. people started waking up in the 60's and severe steps were taken to shut them down! it's happening again, and it's overdue...but right on schedule at the same time...and don't doubt that the methods of dis-information are keeping in step to keep you feeling crazy about what your sensing!

confront them! you'll find you have to anyway. it's something inside that'll drive you. a survival skill. i feel that it can be a godsend in a sense. that although the challenge is drastic and nearly life threatening...it WILL make you stronger! think of it as a virtual training course...like bootcamp. use it to find your inner strength. i can't give much advice as "how to", bcuz i've been under attack for 30 years. i can't use that as the basis for what is happening now. it's constantly changing and increasing in complexity.

i suggest watching 'the matrix" series a few times to get a sense of the "program". although just knowing the basic premise is enough. neo is the chosen one. we are all the chosen ones. the "smith" program was out to destroy him (negs). they don't go into his life prior to "contact" from the other side, but it would be safe to say...he FELT it. the presence of the neg's...lurking all around him. he was aware. he was probably also anti-social and drained, and confused by the world around him. the idea that on one hand it was all so simple. get up/work/make money/spend money/eat noodles/sleep. on the other hand something FELT wrong. the truth...where was the truth? then he has to come face to face with the negs and all he can do is run. his new friends even tell him this. "if you see "them" do what we do...and run your butt off"! but there was morpheus who guides him...and he learns that his mind is in the way. he has to let go of everything he knows and keep his mind open. the only thing that keeps neo ALIVE in these encounters is that his so called "free-will" keeps him UNPREDICTABLE. the negs have a very sound idea of human behavior as a whole, but one on one...they have no clue how you will REACT. (reacting NORMAL is a death sentence). as neo opens his mind more and more...he begins to understand his immortalness in this realm.

when you're plugged in you can die if you're killed in the matrix, but neo questions that. why? my physical body isn't really "there" so why...even if i'm shot, or my head is cut of, or i'm under water without oxygen...why would it effect "ME" physically...when it is only my mind that's involved?!?
this is the huge turning point for neo. when his chi expands to encompass him and his presence becomes UNLIMITED. this is the point where the tides turn and you free yourself from the program...but it's not suppose to be easy...not mentally/physically/emotionally/etc. it's a crash course in waking up and getting in shape for what is to come. in the end neo is able to apply the same open-mindedness to his physical life as well. that no matter where you "think" you are...it's just another level of the matrix, but that's for later.

right now...find yourself. find your inner strength!!! the physical world you are in now is "designed" for nothing except making you weak, confused and compliant. that's why it seems so drastic...these experiences. bcuz it's not easy to wake up from this sleep! anything that makes you feel weak, tells you to close your eyes, or live in light-fluffy-bunny love...is not your truth.

be cautious of the "solutions" that will use up your vital energy in distraction. the reasons these are so key is bcuz you will spend countless hours, weeks, years attempting them, and each time they fail...they will make you feel weaker and more alone. sure love is a great concept, but in the program "truth" & "love" and all those things are implemented to keep people wanting. in the matrix these things are NEVER ATTAINABLE. they're not written in...you just keep searching and searching. the flaw in the program is that that searching if open-minded enough...will being the awakening process. there are little side programs developed to curtail this, but once you find your path...IF YOU STAY FOCUSED & DON'T RUN AWAY FROM IT/FROM YOURSELF...SOMETHING BETTER THEN ANYTHING YOU KNOW HERE>>>IS WAITING FOR YOU!

this is all about you. how you handle it is your choice. get plenty of rest, eat well, spend as much time with the elements as possible. water, earth, sun, wind...are the most incredible healing powers that exist. i am not saying it's going to be easy...it isn't. again, you are in a crash course for waking up and GROWING UP, and it isn't a growing up that has anything to do with age...only wisdom.

i'm still here if you need to unload.
sister soul

the word NEG is a label. becuz on the surface that it what it seems to be about. "pointless negative attack"...however under the surface it is all beyond words. these are not NEG's. they are the greatest lessons you could ever hope for...becuz they lead you to your truth! IF YOU STAY FOCUSED ON THE BIGGER PICTURE. don't get sucked into denial, don't get sucked into the battle, don't get sucked into anything

same thing happened to me with a spontaneous kundalini awaking in the presence of lucifier/satan/devil (whoever we're talking about). we have a fairly intimate relationship in the astral, but this time he actually manifested in the physical. crazy...any i did the same thing...it was like really bad drugs. my body went ice cold. i was sweating like mad...and i cracked!!! totally out of left field and very scary.

here's a link i think some of you will enjoy

DEVIL LIVED
http://viewzone.com/devil.html
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But to be honest I would recommend not looking for "it" unless you really have to.

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there are two types of people. those who know they're under attack, and those that don't know they're under attack. best you not go looking for it as NOY suggests. you WILL find it.

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as best as i can describe it...it's like a seldom used muscle. this is were most people differ with me in that it's best "not" to fight and just ignore the negative. i believe it is lesson in itself and there is much strength in it, if one is willing to stick their neck out and stay with it. you wouldn't expect yourself to be able to run 25 miles your first day out. maybe just around the block. it's the same with this form of combat NOY speaks of. it's more along the lines of martial arts though where it draw upon many things...strength of mind being above physical strength, etc. in believing you can do something a path for that appears that was not there before. there's a lot of waxing on and waxing off before you get a point where it isn't tedious or exhausting. focus of mind. letting all the rest go. i am at a point now where combat is more of a dance. like neo finding his chi or that crouching tiger/hidden dragon thing. all slo-mo, very beautiful and liberating. i'm still pretty new this method, but it's wonderful compared to the slash & burn full-combat mode. it's tapping into a wealth of energy that is unyielding.

a lot of people like to argue my perspective and my methods, but if i had taken their advice...starting taking mind-numbing drugs or laughing (hiding) and avoiding it all...i never would have gotten to this point.
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Nodelles, stop freaking people out!
can you not get enough abuse or what?!? silly assassin always up to something seedy and destructive. you are dealing with a lot of souls that are freaked out by the idea of death. they don't like to hear stuff like that. funny thing is that i try and speak about my relationship with the dark forces, and my respect for neg's and their function, etc...i get the same replies.

you and i jus' crazy is all!
seems like very few people want to embrace their "whole" selves. i think the normal thing to do is just ignore our seediness, keep our perversions in the closet, wave and say "howdy"...show lots of teeth/big smiles...nice nice!!!
millions of cats & dogs aren't being put to death, millions of people aren't struggling and starving. millions of trees aren't being clear-cut so i can wipe my butt...happy happy. it's against the law to kill so i am complete safe to walk the streets. we've extinctafied all the predators so we can lay out at the beach and tan. what a wonderful world this is...so controlled. so neatly boxed up!!!

i say stop slaughtering and packaging up the beef, close down the fast food chains and the grocery stores, stop pumping the oil, stop generating the electricity, bring the predators back, let the crazies & the criminals out, open the underground bases and release the hybrid spawn, lift the veil...and let's get to the real part already! 'cuz this dependent, lazy, self-absorbed, delusional denial is driving me nuts!!!

love ya
good bless
goodnite
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isn't that an oxymoron...tantric orgasm? i thought the whole point was not to reach orgasm??? anyway...

i don't feel any great need to help out those that are "tangled up in the light", so why do those that feel the operate from a purely light space feel the need to help out those that are "tangled up in the darkness" something in all that charity bothers me...it's instinctive though...nothing i can really explain. if i had to it would be something like this...

"who am i to help another"?

and GOD...what is it that is so BAD about the darkness?!? i move all the over the place. i enjoy that freedom. the bridge is always open and i really, really don't understand how or why PREACHING love & light is suppose to fix everything. has no else here ever been depressed and for good reason? tired from exhausting themselves? overwhelmed by the possibilities? angered at having been taken advantage of? if God sets up the lessons and we agree to them. we choose to be here in our physical bodies to experience pain, lust, greed, loathing, pleasure, warmth, cold. how is that others feel justified in interfering with that? what is the motivation for getting the way of other people's lessons & experiences?

i know...all of this wasn't for me. it was for the people crying out for help. the ones trapped and tangled in the darkness (that is obviously not me), but you don't have illuminate the light. in fact you could actually be standing in the way of it. blocking it with what you "think" it is.

no one can EVER be completely in the dark, just like no one can completely be in the light. and i don't see any sense in moving to one extreme or the other...when the middle is where we strive to be. balanced and in harmony with the whole with a RESPECT for all facets.

i think a lot people here have a huge lack of respect for the darkness. without it you wouldn't have your precious light. how is that stance any better? any holier?

congratulations dear SOM!
didn't think you'd actually give it a go. i'm proud. i never expected you to go 14 days your first try. it is crazy how much food is a distraction/escape. three days will demonstrate that obsession, but it doesn't really make it clear how very little food we need. you would have to go at least to week to see that. i don't expect you trying it again for a while. that first meal is well worth it though. yes the detoxing will get you...and depending on how much crap is stored up in the organs and tissue...you can feel pretty down & out the first few days. still that was great!!!

my first fast was 14 days, but that was more bcuz i took it as a personal challenge that i just couldn't afford to give into (one more day). you have to stay busy! i smoke which made it a little easier...but i smoked a lot that first week! after the first week i didn't care about food at all. it was strange to watch others eat in front of me at the point. how starving everyone always seemed to be...gorging themselves. just the subconscious way they attack food and stuff it down. i was also experiencing such a natural high at that point that i didn't want to start eating again. i actually had to force myself. so i thought i could just keep it simple. you know...it's good to eat a plain potato and really understand what it tastes like. without the salt, butter, sour cream, chives, bacon bits, melted cheese, etc.  
it was crazy how fast that obsession came back!!! the first couple of days was very methodical. the ritual of preparing the food & eating...then i just reverted right back to old habits & mindlessness.
i was doing the 14 day fast every three months. haven't done so now in a year. time again...and i'm pretty sure you have inspired me. hm  

all in all i'm very impressed with your efforts.
and glad you shared your experiences. thanx
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frank, my above question was for you...in regards to how your attacks started and how you managed to stop them. i would find any feedback you can offer on this extremely helpful.
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yeah...you know me...Ms. NowhereNearMainStream
i can't stand crowds
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what's useless? opening my mind up to the possibilities? maybe you can't REALLY accomplish anything as long as you're thinking that who you are is who you are and what is is all there is. anyway...i'm not asking you to change who you are or what you think, unfortunately that doesn't always garner the same respect.

and as far as being here is concerned (isn't funny how often i get that remark, "if you don't agree then you should leave")(?!?)...who say i'm really here at all???

but thank you for your input.
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