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#151
Welcome to Dreams! / Two dreams that bug me
February 09, 2005, 19:35:27
Nay, thank you very much. You might be right, who knows. Only in this life I hate to hurt even a small bug. I even became a vegetarian, but could not last longer than 5 months without my fish and chicken  :lol:

The first dream happened once only. The second one is reoccurring. The first one was so damn real. I saw the room just the way it was, perfectly clearly, I'm pretty sure it was OBE--I was somewhat shaken in the morning. The men were totally evil...

thanks again for putting your 2 cents in  :)

I.
#152
Welcome to Dreams! / Two dreams that bug me
February 09, 2005, 18:33:56
Hi all,

I posted this on another message board, but got only one response, so I hope that u, guys, are more active and can help me to understand....

Dream # 1

I had it maybe 5 or 6 years ago when I was dating a man from India. Well, the dream goes like this. We were both sleeping and then I dreamed that I got up in sitting position (I actually saw him sleeping beside me) and suddenly three men entered. All were wearing black robes with hoods covering their faces completely. I remember that they were cursing us, telling me to leave this man and generally saying bad things to me, accusing me of something. Then they left a thick black burning candle on the table beside the bed and went away...
The dream was extremely realistic. I could swear I actually encountered these people.
We split after 3 years or so.  

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Dream # 2

Another repeating dream bothers me every now and then. I dream that I kill somebody (usually don't know the person and killing is more like an accident, but not always). Then I experience intense fear of being caught as well as terribly regret what I have done and try to hide the body. Many times I travel quite far from where i live to ditch it.
I wake up terrified and disgusted.
#153
Andali,

Have u read some books on OBE? They can be very helpful. There are hundreds of different ways, u just have to find yours!

Success!
#154
BirthOfTheNight,

Good luck to you too! Hope that all of is soon can share some amazing experiences!
#155
MadLordNad,

u know after this post I had some better success. I started another thread where I describe it: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17079

It takes practice, but, I believe, if you persevere u can learn LOADS of stuff in a short time. Also how to project. I was not very lucky after that one breath taking experience, but there could be many reasons why. So keep trying and u will get there!!
#156
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Spontaneous aura visions
February 08, 2005, 10:33:55
Possibly, yes. Nevertheless, it feels great to see it like that--without even trying!  :D  I hope that my ability develops over time.
#157
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Spontaneous aura visions
February 07, 2005, 20:35:38
Hi all,

I have been practicing OBE for 2 weeks now--every night before sleep. I noticed a curious thing--I seem to be able to glimpse auras of my colleagues every now and then. Especially when the light source is behind their back. I'm wondering if those really are auras..and why I don't see colors other than sky blue and white.

Anybody have similar experience?
#158
Oh common, dont ppl talk to each other in dreams?  :wink:
#159
I know  :lol:  but I told u I was a crazy teenager!!!

But it was so damn real. The voice...

So what about the first one?
#160
Welcome!

I am new too, but also love this place. People really respond to my posts not like other forums.  :D

Ivanda
#161
I remember two experiences from the past that could be OBEs. Please tell me what is your opinion.

1. I was a little kid (maybe 5 or 6), but I remember it clearly until now. I was sleeping and then I found myself sitting in the bed and reading one of those folding books for children. Then I wanted to call my mom, but no sound was issuing from my mouth. I remember I was quite desperate. It all felt so real. In the morning I just remembered it as a weird dream, but now knowing about OBE, I wonder if I had actually perceived myself when out-of-body?!

2. Me and my friends being crazy teens discovered that it is possible to lose consciousness by taking deep deep breaths for some time and then holding the breath. I did it once on my own and next I remember was darkness. However I could hear a woman screaming and then something that sounded like car crash--tires screeching and all. I could  not see anything though. Then I woke up crying. At first I could not understand why I am on the floor, but then it came to me. I did not get hurt or anything, but was in tears. What was that?!

love,
I.
#162
QuoteSoon or late we'll be able to get out from our bodies

U are absolutely right... everybody will, even those who never knew about it   :lol:
#163
Quotemy vision was at the solar plexus level

I have limited experience, but I have experienced myself as a ball of energy, which was located in the region of my head; however, I have no doubts that this ball can move all around the body before projecting out of it. Maybe that is why u could see "from" your solar plexus.
#164
I knooooooow   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
#165
Coral,

thank you. I guess u are right about the weight--it took me some time to be able to move my limbs. It was funny how when I sank back into my body my hands and feet started tingling and I could finally feel them.

I will let ya all know how it goes from here.

I.
#166
I had my doubts. Yesterday they were removed as I had a brief but complete OBE experience. When u have it, u just know!! When I am better at this, I will try to do a couple of experiments--not that I need them anyway    :lol:
#167
The whole experience is so clear in my mind now.

Wow.. I was so amazed and awed when floated towards the shifting shapes. I just wrote it in my journal and recalled the whole thing more clearly. It is the most amazing thing I have ever experienced. No doubt about it. Well, maybe similar in some way to the kind of ecstasy I sometimes feel when I talk to God.  :D

Cheers,
I.
#168
Did u ever fully AP before? Just wondering.

If u have not done it for sometime, I guess it may take some time to get in the mode. Also try not to try too hard  :lol:  It works for me. I am also still trying, but advancing with every try.

Good luck,
I.
#169
I am trying to induce OOBE for 2 weeks or so and last night I had pretty good development!

OK, here is the story:

I had a nice chat with a new friend and then read an inspirational book, so my state of mind was extremely relaxed and happy. I went to bed and told myself: Im not going to try for OBE, just try to explore the stage where my eyelids seem to be transparent... Well, when I relaxed and achieved that stage--my mind was actually going to sleep, so I had to tell myself: there it is. Guess what, something weird happened. As I was just laying there, I stopped feeling my body, then I kind of became a ball of energy concentrated somewhere in my head, I could swear I had 360 degree vision even though I could not see much. What I saw was like a canvas on which something was changing shapes, like birds flexing their wings (it is very difficult to describe). I was actually moving toward and then thru this canvas. My ears were buzzing--like a constant whooshing of wind. It was so amazing that I got all excited and fearful again (despite my best intentions) and then I did a mistake I started repeating my affirmation: I am out of body now.

What happened was that I thought of my body and of course returned. :shock:

I tried this couple more times, but did not get so far. Also the last time I tried I sinked back to my body and felt terrible heaviness, like a ton of bricks or an elephant was crushing me. Also I felt pressure in the region of heart chakra. It was almost painful. Can anybody explain why this happened?

So being a wild beginner I already have too tips for u guys :lol:

1. Before practice try to do something positive, something that makes u happy and relaxed. Interaction with other ppl or reading something inspirational really helps.

2. Don`t TRY to induce OBE. Experiment with relaxation techniques or something else but free your mind from OBE obsession. Then it will also let go of fear and feel more safe about what you are trying to do. I did not even do my exercise!

Cheers and good luck!
Ivanda
#170
It was just a joke, BirthOfTheNight. Well, maybe you try too hard, as many have noted often. I had some success last night, I am going to post a new topic. Maybe u can read it too. I discovered something foe myself that works. And it is really simple.

Hugs,
I.
#171
daidaluz, thanks again for your reply! as for asking help, I figured that once I get there, next time would be easier! :P


BirthOfTheNight,

:lol:  I dont think u are defective, just maybe not as crazy as most ppl here are  :lol:  Thumbs up for trying for 5 years! U are so patient. And I hope u get there soon. U do deserve it!!!

Ivanda
#172
QuoteThis applies to many "believers" as well.

Ya, I know. But since I am mostly a believer, so I had to say it about sceptics  :lol:
#173
daidaluz,

u sound like u are very experienced in AP-ing. Is that so?  :P  

One time when trying to project I asked for help and I felt definite acceleration in my "movement" out, but then again my fear interfered. I also wish i could meet my grandpa who died 22 years ago. I still miss him very much.

Ivanda
#174
I was very close yesterday--several times as I almost drifted off to sleep and then roused myself. I actually saw a couple dark shapes sneaking around but attributed it to my immagination. they were not even that scary!

Hmmmm.... is it ok if I immagine some cute guys instead?   :lol:

QuoteAlmost forgot, the most vulnerable stage is just about when you are up to get out from your physical body. You will hear , and probably see at this point figures in the dark that will try to scare you; just ignore them completely, ..mmm try thinking some of this dark beings are like sensual and cute female waiting for you at the astral realm....
Enjoy
#175
Thanks, guys. That is what I also was thinking-- just keep meditating and practicing. It will happen one day.

Letting go of fear and doubt..hmmm....if i only knew how!  :lol: