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When you become lucid within a dream, wouldn't it be considered projecting? Because at that stage we are fully conscious right?

Quite correct.   

Religion isn't "real".  That's the point.  Nothing found OUTSIDE of yourself is "real". 

(using the term "real"... in a relative manner, if that makes any sense)

That's one way to look at it...

Another is that nobody is any "further" than anyone else at any of this. 
We're all just doing the best we can with the tools we have available "for ourselves". 

There's a reason why someone who isn't "ready" for this stuff, will ignore anything taught to them.  It'll literally go in one ear and out the other... but that's 100% fine, for the person has to WANT to learn. 

The DESIRE to learn has to come... that's the first step. 

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Because most people refuse to see the truth of this "reality".  They're stuck focused entirely on the material world and don't want to know what more there is.

What you "see" is only a tiny fraction of what there is.  When you begin to scratch the surface, it starts chipping away in large chunks rather fast... some people like remaining spiritually ignorant. 

That's not a bad thing though... we *ALL* started off that way at one time or another. 

We are what we are.  People move along at the pace they move.  It's all good.

[Home was a world where you could watch the clouds and hear this music . Over a long peorid of time the music and clouds would repeat making it boring]

In a inter view posted on you tube by Robert Monroe he said he thought of home . Home was a world where you could watch the clouds and hear this music . Over a long peorid of time the music and clouds would repeat making it boring .  So he could not go back home , or he wanted more excitement . If I find a link to that you tube video , I will post it .
p.s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEwshB9gpfQ

And there is a lot of truth in that statement.

Take Pi (3.14) for example.  It's a number that never has an ending.  In that number you can find *EVERYTHING* that has ever happened... in numerical form, that is. 
So, in infinite... everything happens, if you ARE infinite experiencing the infinite... you're going to have a bad time, eventually.  LoL

Spiritual mediums say it looks like that.

Perception is individual.

You're not going to find anyone to help you do this. 
If you want to learn to project, we can TEACH you to do it yourself.

Robert Monroe said he came from a world that was boring , so he came hear to the earth . 

Relatively speaking.
When you exist "forever"... what was once fun the first time, gets a tad tedious after an infinite number of times.
How much fun can one have doing *everything* over and over and over. 

Yes that's the article!!!  I did not know he was associated with TMI, though it makes sense if he is able to use their material in his publications. He's Canadian and up in Montreal at the University there. I think he's either running the psyc department or is a psyc prof.

Not to mention, too, that the book he released a year or two ago is probably one of THE BEST I've ever had the pleasure to read.

"Explorations in Consciousness"

It's a book I would HIGHLY suggest to anyone interested in non-physical exploration.

Did Fred used to be a member here? I know he has a good OBE book available. I'm assuming he has ties with TMI as I've seen that book in their bookstore.

Fred still floats around here, yes.  He's Major Tom. 

And he had the Focus 10 article here as well... is it the same?

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/focus_10_mind_awakebody_asleep-t24783.0.html

potassium is the most dangerous. it can stop your heart. The rest can cause serious electrolyte imbalances. If you get the mineral from a food source it's much safer. The food limits how much you can eat of that mineral. Even calcium was found to increase the risk of cardiac events.

I was watching a documentary about calcium in relation to your heart and they found that they can scan for the amount of calcium in your heart and determine your chance of getting a heart attack.  It was extremely accurate. 

They found that seemingly healthy individuals (ie: long distance runners) who had heart attacks, upon further inspection had a high level of calcium in their hearts and arteries.

Steve Miller Band - Fly Like an Eagle

Why?   Pretty self explanatory.

I meditate a lot and can get into a pretty good trance, but is it possible to take the trance one step further and have an OBE?

Just strictly "meditating" and "meditating towards projection" are actually two separate things.

If you're just strictly meditating, you can zone out, completely losing all awareness, yet still feel connected to this physical reality.
If you're meditating towards projecting, then what you want to aim for is a pushing away of your awareness from this physical reality.
You do this by finding a Focus which works for you, then using that Focus and placing your awareness into it and allowing everything physical to drop away.

Does that make any sense?

I can repossess you of non-organic entities and majic. I can channel life force to you for healing.

I still don't understand what that is... repossess people of non-organic entities and majic?

The "channel life force" thing makes a bit more sense.  What most people don't understand is that EVERYONE can do that.  We're ALL consciousness, we're ALL connected as we're ALL part of that consciousness which is everything.  To heal someone or something, you simply need to focus your consciousness and place the Intent towards that end.

What exactly do you mean?  Repossess what?

If I was really powerful, I'd play pranks on people.

And how exactly does that benefit YOUR spiritual growth? 

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Magik... "Everything is energy and you can manipulate energy through the power of will" then why the can not one person on this earth levitate objects create something out of nothing.. WHERE IS THE PROOF man... Wicca's, witch's, psychics, mediums ... Where is the studies, the research the videos in a controlled environment, I need PROOF man  

Because this reality has "rules" that govern it's existence.  They're not really HARD rules though... and they *can* be broken if done correctly.  There are examples of this "rule-breaking" though.
Do some research and find them.  Mother's lifting cars off their children... Monks bending spears against their necks... etc... Psychic ability has already been proven as long as you're not the kind of skeptic that refuses to read about it.

That's just it... you're ALWAYS in a "spirit realm".
There's no difference between this reality which we call the "physical reality" and any reality you experience while projecting or sleeping. 

None.  Let that sink in for a bit. 

Ignore Robert Bruce... you'll leave him being MORE scared than you already are and it'll only make matters worse.

My suggestion, stop priming your experiences first with sexual imagery.  You're perceived negative experiences with being "raped" will end.

Suffice to say, you're pre-loading your experiences.  Stop it.  

In the end, always keep a positive frame of mind and you'll be fine.

@Xanth

First your quotes are all messed up, makes your message hard to read.

Ha!  You'd think that after over 6 years here I'd be able to figure this stuff out.  

All fixed!  

Second on your very own site under lesson 1 you have a very good video from Thomas Campbell.  His advice for getting into the larger reality?  Simple, "meditate to a point where you let everything go, there is nothing but you and your consciousness".  Pretty straight forward way to describe being in an empty mind state.  From here he recommends simply using your intent to go where you want to go.

It's actually not an empty mind state at all.  As I said, if you aim to "do nothing" and still project, it won't happen.  
What Tom's talking about here is the same thing I'm referring to above regarding finding a Focus.  

You seem to be a little confused on the process since your own post which states your mind should never be not doing something is very different from the advice given in your own lesson video on your website.

I can clarify if you provide an example?
It'll allow me to make further adjustments to articles to alleviate such further confusions later.  
If I have contradicted myself at some point, I'd like to know so I can make corrections.

I'll add that I'm a frequent lucid dreamer, probably have had well over 100 lucid dreams that often vary in control and length and even quite a few that have tried mimicking AP.

This is all I really need to know.  Projection.  All "over 100 lucid dreams" = projections. 

Forget about what you THINK an astral projection or a lucid dream is.
A Projection = you consciously experiencing a reality which you identify as not being this physical reality.  That reality can be perceived as your bedroom, your house, your neighbourhood, some strange place you've never been to or anything else really.  You just have to be experiencing it directly and consciously AND identify it as NOT being this physical reality.

That's it.  Easy, eh?

It's so easy, people don't believe it.  They think "astral projection" is something that's so hard to do.  They usually build it up in their head as some kind of mystic trip.  Well, it's not. 
Even just what you would call a "dream" is a projection... it's just a projection in which you don't realize you're projecting.  Even this physical reality experience you're having right this very second is a projection. 

I've been thinking about this for a while. Does your soul really leave your body or are you just having a lucid dream? Share your thoughts on this.

Let's take this from a different angle and see if YOU can provide an answer...

There are THREE very important questions that need to be asked.

1.  What is "dreaming"?
2.  What is "lucid dreaming"?
3.  What is "astral projection"?

I've been studying this stuff for a while now... at one point, I focused almost exclusively on the first question in order to answer the second and third question.  So began my journey to figure out what we humans (aka: science) knows about "dreaming". 

What is Dreaming?  I very quickly hit a roadblock when researching this question.  What did I learn?  I learned that humanity, LITERALLY, has absolutely no idea what "dreaming" is.  We haven't a clue.  We have scientists who have provided educated guesses, but not a single human lives today or has ever lived who has been able to answer that question.

So... that kills question #1. 

Question #2 and #3 are kind of unanswerable because we don't know the answer to question #1.

So when you ask "is astral projection just a form of lucid dreaming?", do you realize what you're REALLY asking here? 
You're asking "is some random label of something we have absolutely no idea about, just a form of another random label of something we have absolutely no idea about?"

Funny, eh?

Now, I *can* answer #1, #2, AND #3.  However, I can only answer it from my own personal experience of the non-physical... I'm not saying the answer is right, but I am saying that it comes from my own personal experience.  I wrote the following article a few years ago to better explain: http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2012/07/22/labeling-experiences-of-the-non-physical/

Let me know if you have any questions. 

Hello BigRaider,

There are many different styles and way to achieve the obe.  There are already some great ideas and responses in this thread.  One of the problems, as has been brought up, is that most of us suck at the whole empty mind thing.  You can try to get around this with using a state where your mind is already sort of in a quiet mood (morning/middle of night).  This works great for many people as a way to get around the empty mind block.  It does work very well for me.  I would recommend considering looking into the Frank Kepple phasing as well as William Buhlman's version of it.  I believe these are great for beginners because you are holding your focus outside your physical body, which is the important part, but also doing something (active imagination/visualization), which allows you to not lose 'interest' as quick.  For example you said since your breathing never changes you find yourself losing focus on it.

Please allow me to make a few distinctions...
First, once you really get into Projection and begin to really analyze "methods" and "techniques"... you find that there really is only ONE way of projecting.  What confuses people is that while there is only ONE way of projecting, there is an infinite number of ways to perceive HOW you're projecting. 

Next, the "empty mind" thing... anyone who tells you that in order to project you must "empty your mind" is only parroting what they've heard and/or simply doesn't understand the process.  You might here people that you "shouldn't think" while projecting, but that's not the same as "emptying your mind".  At no point is your mind EVER "blank".  You're always doing "something" with your mind.  If you're ever doing "nothing", then you're not going to ever project, because to trigger the projection reflex you must do "something" to entice it to happen.

So what's that "something" you need to do?  You need to find your FOCUS.  You want to bring your awareness to that FOCUS and use it as your means for your awareness to stop experiencing this physical reality.  That's what *EVERY SINGLE PROJECTION METHOD* out there in our known universe is designed to do.  That's why people go from method to method trying to find that one method that works best *for them*, because they're trying to find the method/technique that provides them with the FOCUS that works *for them*.  Everyone has a FOCUS that is different.

Find that FOCUS that works best FOR YOU and you will have found your very personal, very unique key to access the non-physical.

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2015/01/21/design-effective-astral-projection-technique/  <-- hopefully this link will shed a bit more light on that aspect of projection methods. 

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2012/07/22/how-to-stabilize-and-strengthen-your-projection-experiences/

Paul, give that a read.