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#1626
This is a tip that I picked up after reading both the Russian mystic Ouspensky and the book 'Hypnagogia' by Andreas Mavromatis.
Eventually the hypnagogic images will form into complex patterns. After viewing this for awhile these patterns will become more complex and form short story lines or 'sketches'. The final form of the short sketches will be (once asleep) a full length dream complete with visual images, a coherent plot (usually) and other sensations such as sound and feeling.
Allow the images to become more complex. This involves passive viewing which is to watch the images as you would watch tv. If this is done on a regular basis you will soon find that you have drifted either into light trance or directly into sleep while watching the hypnagogic images.[:)][|)][:)]
#1627
Though I do not want to be rude If Everyone posts a weekly journal of all (or even most) of their activities regarding OBEs, projections, dreams, lucid dreams, energy work and meditation then this thread Will be too long to comfortably read. [|)]
Yet I don't want to Discourage anyone so will state that personally I plan to post only a short capsule summary of any significant experience(s) and success(es).
BTW I Did have a precognitive dream about the tornados that hit the American midwest yesterday. I will post that in the Dream forum.
#1628
Perhaps not all enlightening experiences are happy or pleasant experiences. I had one such experience, an astral projection actually, which I posted to the Welcome to OBE Experiences forum. It was titled "Out of Body Experience" and was posted in mid or late March.
#1629
Yeah DOA that's good. You could be getting very close. In fact you probably Are close and just need more experience in remaining in the best mental state to induce a projection.
In your post you stated "I got real exited". As you probably already realize that excitement was the reason that you did not project. It can be difficult to stay calm when near projection yet it is necessary. I'm sure nearly all of us have ruined at least one projection by becoming excited at the wrong time.
#1630
DreamingCarnage I am intuitively thinking that your original post referred to the VOID. My understanding of the VOID is that it is a place of emptiness and solitude. This differs from others Voids which are (mostly) the result of distorted or faulty perceptions.
My own theory on the VOID is that it is a separate and complete astral or ethereal plane. Perhaps the VOID is the result of balance between two ultimate forces (Good/evel or maybe creation/destruction). The two or three times I have been in the VOID were very peaceful yet perhaps it was the same type of calm as being in the eye of a hurricane.
#1631
It is a sad comment on modern organized religion when a Christian must defend their spiritual beliefs. This is one (of several) reasons why I have stayed away from churches. [V]
Summerland Could be a creation of many peoples' strong spiritual beliefs. I like the idea of Summerland being mostly a pagan creation. That would help to explain the many reports by children who have been there. (Most children are Not religious.) [:)]
regarding someone hacking your computer Mustardseed I suggest contacting a forum moderator or administrator and seeing if other Astral Pulse members have had this problem. Perhaps they can help you.
#1632
Consider getting the help of a responsible professional medium. It may be difficult to locate one depending on where you live. Check out some message boards for ideas on who to look for.
A really good medium can sense or even see the entity that is causing trouble. The medium may not be able to make contact with it but the medium should be able to get some idea of how to 'deal' with that entity (whether by persuasion orf by force). Whatever works !
#1633
Any discarnate (negative) entity that consistently 'behaves' in a regular and repeatable manner can, in fact, be defeated, by the vary consistency of its actions. Though this might sound trite and banal it is quite true.
Your 'opponent' EnderWiggin repeatedly annoys, bothers and harasses you with monotonous regularity. That puts that discarnate entity in close contact to you on a regualr basis.
Personally, if I was Certain that a malevolent spirit was going to be in my vicinity then I would be waiting for it with some Very Nasty surprises.
Psiballs, electrical (bioplasm and ectoplasm) energy, offensive energy 'programmed' from crystal stones, a specially created and programmed thought elemental and (defensive) wall of force are just some of the 'weapons' that I could use on such an energy.
Sometimes it does pay to be a hardcase, get mean and try to inflict severe damage on an opponent. After saying; 'Enough is enough', with enough violence and energy Then you will be left alone.[:(!][B)][8D]
#1634
From the description of your experience it certainly apears that you Did have an out of body experience! Very good!
In some ways your first projection was also above 'average'.
Most first time projectors (myself included) are confined to their room or house/apartment. The fact that you transported to a location 50 miles away And stayed calm and in control is a positive sign.
Many (or most) first time projectors (myself included) project either from a dream, from dreamless sleep or right after waking up and in sleep paralysis. So it's another positive sign of being able to consciously project from a state of deep meditation. Many experienced projectors are still not able to do that!
#1635
Hallo Mustardseed. [:)]
Never having communicated with anyone who has been to Summerland I could not pass up the opportunity to say hi.
Though not a Christian I definately do believe in (the Chrisian) God. However I have some issues with the oraganized Christian churches and so am probably more of a dualist (though do Not lean toward the diabolical side!).
Anyways I was under the impression that Summerland had been visited by many people who had either undergone NDEs or religiously charged OBEs.
I was curious if you had met anyone who had an experience at Summerland? If so, did you find that all or most of those people had strong Christian beliefs?
BTW here are two websites you may find interesting. www.nderf.orf and www.oberf.org NDERF stands for Near Death Experience Research Foundation. There are quite a few reports there about Summerland.
#1636
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Zzzzz
May 03, 2003, 22:46:47
Hi Ulysses.
Here are two suggestions to help you stay awake.
Try playing music while you meditate. There is no absolute right or wrong regarding the best music to play. Generally I prefer ambient, trance and hearts of space music. Anything you prefer and helps keeps you from nodding off to sleep should work.
Here is another trick to keep from sleeping. Focus on any closed eye visuals that might appear. These inner mind images are called hypnogogic visuals. Eventually these visuals will become sleep dreams. The idea is to stay awake while being 'entertained' by the images. It is somewhat delicate, however, because these images tend to disappear during any attempt to control them. So passive viewing (like watching TV) is recommneded.
#1637
Tyler, try not to be put off by talk of encounters with negative entities only being the result of 'inner demons' or 'personal issues'. There are MANY posts here at AstralPulse that recount severe encounters with very hostile discarnates. The experiences included unprovoked attacks and other malicious activity. Personally I had violent encounters with discarnates while out of body on a few occasions. [:(!]
That being said I have no doubt that psychological unease Does account for Some of these encounters. Yet certainly Not all, or even Most, of these encounters can be explained by purely psychological phenomena.
You are quite right There IS a certain thrill at the idea of exploring low planes, dark areas and forbidding regions.
I have done so (both in dreams and projections) on several occasions. It is not always a Good idea (again from firsthand experience)[B)]. But it is always Exciting. [;)]
Unfortunately you could also be right in that the plane that we inhabit is one of the lowest planes there is.[?]
#1638
Great question DreamingCarnage!
What IS the nature of the Void?
I at first thought that the Void was a lack of perception. That the Void was actually something/somewhere else but was misperceived by the people who were projecting.
Since then I have experienced the Void on at least 2 out of bodies. Now I no longer believe that the 'concept' of the Void is a result of bad perception. I now think that the Void is a separate astral or ethereal plane. Or is an isolated region of an astral or ethereal plane.
Oddly enough I do not feel threatened, lonely or disconcerted when in the Void. That could be because I have always been confident of returning to the Here-Now.
One of the few certainies I have managed to glean from the Void is that, as lateralus897 asserts, individual indentity does indeed survive the void. Surviving there may not be fun, but it can be done.
#1639
Vibrations are helpful both as a sign that an OBE is about to take place and as a general indicator that the human body is 'in tune' with the astral/ethereal body. So most people want vibrations to occur.
Vibrations are not, however, necessary for projection. An ability to relax deeply, stay calm and focus intention during the separation process are what are most important.
This all ties into the fact that the physical body should be as inconspicuous as possible. Separation of astral/etheral body from the physical body is primarily a mental process (focus and intent).
A mental effort (and a desire) to project will go Much farther than the onset of vibrations.
#1640
Most people simply dismiss the Montauk conspiracy away as being nothing more than science fiction of overactive imagination. However the concept of the Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum physics theorizes that there are many, many alternate earths existing in paralell planes (or other dimensions). Variations of MWI posit either alternative universes or branching paralell timelines.
The important point is that MWI provides a theoretical framework in which the events of the Montauk Timeline could take place.
It is for just that reason that I advise great caution when dealing with the Montauk conspiracy. Is it possible that some of the people involved in Montauk, for one reason or another, actually believe in the reality of the Montauk events??
There could be more than just a Little truth to that. One possibility is that one of those people had an out of body experience and encountered (hostile) aliens. There are other possibilities. The point that I wish to make is that Consciousness can, to a certain degree, form, shape and create the reality around us. This goes beyond , "Be careful what you wish for", to "Be careful what you constantly think about". In my view there are an over ample supply of problems in the world without dwelling on the possibility that Time-Nazis and aliens are secretly allied and engaged in an ongoing battle against the CIA!!
Actually, come to think about it, I'm surprised there hasn't been a Montauk movie made already.
#1641
For those interested in remote viewing I advise taking the online rv test at www.GotPsi.com  After continueed practice you will tell whether or not you have an aptitude at RV. If it looks promising THEN proceed to take a full RV course.
Note. There are tests for oOther psychic abilities at GotPsi.com so a visit to that site is well worthwhile. In addition there is an online tests for remote viewing at another website that I cannot remember at present.
#1642
One of the key secrets to the Holographic Universe theory is the idea that mind/consciousness Can directly influence and affect physical matter. This is an idea that is gaining popularity amoung the scientific community, particularly quantum physicists. It is not necessary to into the scientific details (long calculus equations and complex terms).
Rather it is easier to understand the idea from the Point of View of a Sufi master or an Indian Yogi. These masters use concentration, visualization and mantra (chanting) to focus their mind on the goal of physically transforming matter. A BIG differnece is that they have been taught since an early age that it IS possible to control matter with mind. Whereas most Westerners, especially scientists, have been educated to believe exactly the opposite.
So while it Is possible for the Sufis and Yogis to do what they do it is also harder for them to perform in front of skeptics. That is why so many masters fail to perform under difficult laboratory conditions.
[:D][?][V][8D]
#1643
You probably had a short ethereal projection. The only thing missing was sight and this essentially ended the projection. Some people try calling for "Clarity Now!" when they have trouble with sight while out of body. You might want to give that a try next time.
#1644
You are right. Most people do try too hard. More people project unconsciously from sleep or normal dreams than consciously project. Conscious projection can be done. It is just harder than unconscious projection.
The worst thing to do is to strain and exert phyiscal force while trying to project. That practically guarantees failure.
It is better to keep a strong desire in mind. That unconscious desire to project will eventually be manifested into a projection.
#1645
Your experience reminded me of a couple quasi-dream-quasi-projection experiences about two years ago. It seems like this was some type of phase where I had to learn to consciously and deliberately separate the OBE from the dream. It was not especially difficult but it did take several months.
Lucidity is the key. When in a lucid dream it is quite easy to induce an OBE. Experience and delibrate conscious desire will do the rest.
#1646
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Clearing the mind
April 26, 2003, 23:06:49
Listening to the right music is the best way to clear the mind. Ambient music, nature sounds, hearts of space or just simple drumming. Any music that creates a relaxing frame of mind and has a steady beat. For me the best music is nonvocal as words become too much of a distraction. Letting the music serve as a backdrop for quite mental respite late at night can be the perfect way to easily get into a deep hypnagogic-meditative state.[:)]
#1647
Ketamine Can cause OBEs. I have read several reports about spontaneous (and unplanned) projections while on K at the www.erowid.org website.
There was one report in particular that I vaguely remember. The title was something like 'K works on Kids" (by a someone named Brian). He was given ketamine as an anaethestic (sp) during a visit to the dentists. While still awake in the dentists chair he simultaneously was floating up near the ceiling. He saw his physical body and the dentist working on him.
Note. Erowid is an excellant source of information (safe doses, dangerous combos, etc). There are other OBE-psychedelic 'trip'  reports at erowid (not only on ketamine but also LSD, datura, DXM and DMT)
#1648
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / catalysts
April 26, 2003, 21:36:49
On erowid I have read reports of people who had out of body experiences on the following substances- LSD, ketamine, DXM, Datura, DMT and ayahuasca (a shaman DMT brew). Oddly enough I have yet to read a report about a projection on mushrooms. So if anyone knows about such an experience then please post a link.
In addition there are many reports by people on hallucinogens who were in an in-between state. Sort of half-spaced-psychedelic and half out of body. This is where people see and interact with all kinds of paranormal creatures like invisible beings (ghosts?) and DMT elves. These experiences are close to being full projections. The reason that they are not full blown OBEs is because the people lack sufficient control to induce the projection!
#1649
timeless  ---   Perhaps if you posted an account of one of your OBEs in some detail then someone here could provide valuable information.
What do mean by calling your OBEs tube-type projections?? Are you refering to the method of separation of astral/ethereal body from physical body? Or does tube-type mean that you see a tunnel, portal or gate after projecting?
Note that votex exits (from the physical body) are rare but have been reported on several occasions. Also dimension-tunnels or -portals are really quite common. (Tunnels are reported by NDEers and portals are described by OBEers.>)
#1650
The energy waves are usually seen in dark or semi-dark rooms. This makes me believe that the energy is Not heat waves as heat is usually seen in bright daylight (hot roads and desert sands, etc).
I dunno exactly what it is that I see[?] My theories include such possibilities as seeing the vague outlines (without color) of an aura (??), maybe catching sight of whispy-like ectoplasm (?), or seeing some sort of ethereal-type energy like Prana or Chi. Though I really don't have any solid idea of what it is I am partial to the idea of it being Prana because I occasionally practice Pranayama = breathing exercises.[:)]