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Congratulations on the projection. []
Many people who project complain of having limited mobility when too near the physical body. The physical body does exert a strong pull on the astral/ethereal body. This pull can be countereacted by moving away from the physical body.
Most people who project more than two or three times overcome this limitation. So this is a problem you will overcome with more projections. Good luck.

Regarding the use of Magic Mushrooms (or other mind alterants) to induce projection -- I am in basic agreement with FredHedd. The biggest drawback of hallucinogens is the lack of control while being under the influence. However, if you are experienced with mushrooms then this problem can be overcome.
How lucky you are to have those mushrooms be Legal where you live!! Many people will envey you.
If you do have an OBE while using mushrooms then could you post a brief report about your experience here??? I'm sure many people will be quite interested to read about it![]

Some people claim that animals have a spirit or a soul. That could well be true. I don't have any pets and don't feel qualified to debate the issue.
However the idea that inanimate objects have a soul or spirit is confusing. Perhaps there has been some confusion between energy and soul/spirit/consciousness. Electro-magnetism is an energy. Here we can probably all agree that EM does not have a soul. Yet what about Chi, ki and Prana? These are energies. Yet are any or all these energies somehow related to a human soul? What about natural energies (air, earth, water or fire)? Is Gaia both an energy and the soul of the planet (thereby imparting each rock and boulder with a soul of its own)? Is that a viable arguement?

Trance is essentially the same state as being half-awake and half-asleep. Trance can be induced either before or after sleep (these are known as the hypnagogic and hypnopompic states). Trance can also be achieved through meditation.
Trance is not absolutely necessay for projection although, of course, it does help. Projections have been induced by people during meditation, just before sleep, right after waking from sleep and during sleep itself. Projections during sleep most often occur in dreams of flying and floating and in lucid dreams (dreams where a person realizes that he or she is dreaming).[]

This may or may not be relevant to what you saw cainam_nazier.
On several occasions, while in a drowsy half-awake half-asleep (hypnagogic) state, I have clearly seen wavy lines of energy. This energy does not appear cloudy, it looks much like wavy lines of heat coming up off a hot asphalt or cement road on a summer day. The energy is especially prevalent around electronic equipment (computer and CD player) though it can also sometimes be seen along walls and floating in midair. [][?][8D]
I originally thought that it might be elecromagnetic energy but recently saw the energy in a field around people. I'm not sure what it is[?][?]

To FAt Turkey
Quote >>>Allow me to explain. I am more of a researcher and I study mainly case histories from books and situations of people online. I don't have much hands-on experience but I'm working on that. All I can do is speculate and theorise - and I'm usually wrong<<<<

It's quite interesting to read that you have a similar interest. I have been 'collecting' accounts of OBEs (and NDEs) off the internet for about a year now. To date I have copied and pasted about 1,000 reports of OBEs, astral projections, ethereal projections and NDEs. These are for personal, non-commercial use so I can build up a data base of these experiences.
If you are interested then I can provide a list of website URLs where these OBE reports can be found. Just send me a private message or an email.

Just a thought here but  -  many people who claim to see auras say that most auras are blue in color. So maybe what you saw was an extension of your own aura. Since you were apparently nearly ready to have an OBE it could be that your aura was 'looser' or farther out from your physical body.  [?]

Yeah, I agree with DG that you could author a very interesting and informational book Frank.[]
I am of the opinion that one experience is worth more than the knowledge gained from reading a book. That is why I specifically look for posts on the AstralPulse forums (and on other websites) that directly relate astral and ethereal projection experiences.
Thanks again to Frank and PJ for sharing your experiences.[8D]

My understanding of the situation is that dream people are products of the subconscious mind. Entities encountereed while out of body have a real objective (tThough non-physical) existence.
This may not be true for everyone. Some people believe that very talented astral projectors can create things on the astral plane including the thought-astral doubles of physical people. If this is true then some astral entites would be nothing more than thought forms.
So, as you can see, the issue is not obvious or clear cut. When dealing with dreams and OBEs your own experiences are often the best way of providing answers.

After reading your posts I would like to comment that your encounter could be a result of your own subconscious. However, I feel compelled to point out that Many people have reported encounters with negative entities and many of those cannot be explained away as being the result of the subconscious mind.
In any event, whatever was the cause of your encounter the important fact to remember is to project confidence and courage while projecting. Thoughts are nearly as important as actions in both the astral and ethereal (etheric) planes. (It appears that your encounter took place in the ethereal.) Many negative entities (eg, Spirit Hinderers and elementals) feed off the confusion and fear that they try to create. Denying those entities fear and confusion always weakens thems and empowers you.
BTW your tactic of evading the discarnate by travelling away at high speed apparently was quite successful. Good Luck. [8D]

That's a good question. I have been fortunate to have had several projections. If interested you can read them at the www.astralsociety.net website. Just go to the Journals sections and go down alphabetically to Greytraveller's Journal. OBE number 28 is of particular interest.

That would be good news if it is true Squeek. Is it possible for you to provide some type of link to the story you heard? Either the station name or a website address. I'm sure alot of people are interested in following up on the original story. lol[8D]

After checking the link that was just posted I should add that you will have to do a search for 'teleportation' in the search box in the top left corner of the Cape Argus website. lol[8D]

Kakkarot is quite observant. I was talking about astral teleportation while lysear is probably refering to physical teleportation. Astral/ethereal teleportation is much easier and more common. However scientists are currently working on teleporting a laser beam. They have already had limited success. Here is a link -
http://capeargus.co.za/index.php?fArticleID=43971

No doubt many people have claimed to have seen Saddam alive or dead in a projection or a dream over the lasr 4 weeks. What is really needed here is some type of verifiable proof - specifically a location and/or date pinpointing where the Baghdad Butcher can be found (alive or dead).[?]

The most effective way to teleport is to concentrate either on a specific place or on a person. Actually thinking about a specific person works for many people. Or course you first have to know where that person is located.
Some people concentrate on that person or place during meditation and before attempting to induce a projection. Success varies from projector to projector.
Personally I can occasionally teleport to a specific place. I have done that on 2 or 3 occasions. However with one notable exception I have not been able to teleport to a particular person. You may have beter success though.
Good luck.    []

Okay, here are some links to photos of ghost and energy vortices.
Check out this first link as the 2 photos are very dramatic. Of course the photos may be faked. Yet if real it is obviously a votex/portal to somewhere.
http://photos2.ghostweb.com/bcgh1.html

The other photos at the following links are interesting though hardly as dramatic. Worth a look though ...
the website www.alienufoart.com has several ghost photo galleries.
Check out Ghost Photo Gallery Number 5 especially
and
http://photos2.ghostweb.com/sfar1.html

If and When Saddam Hussein is dead it will be interesing to see if a group of gifted projectors make sure that Saddam promptly moves on to a (lower) ethereal plane and does not 'hang around' and haunt the physical world (Iraq).

Energy vortices are interesting topics. There are several photographs of (alleged) ghost vortices. Unfortunately I can't remember the ghost websites where they can be find. Though it is quite possible that some or even all of these photos are fakes it is reasonable to believe that such a vortex can be seen and photographed.
So it is also entirely possible that such a vortex can be seen either inside one's physical house/apartment or seen in an astral/ethereal realm.
BTW some people claim that mirrors occasionally serve as portals/vortices to other planes.

Two ideas that are relevant to the concept of creating (your own) reality.
The first is the theory that the universe is actually one massive, magnificent Holograph. Its called the Holographic Universe. There is a book of the same name (By Micheal Talbot 1991). I have not read it yet. He discusses the ideas first put forth by Bohm - a quantum physicist and Pribram - a psychologist. Those two men idependently arrived at the conclusion that the universe is an energy projection of 4 or 5 or more dimensions. The underlying reality of the universe is that everything exists as a series of vibrations. What we take for granted as solid and material are just a series of vibrations that our brains have been programmed to believe are solid objects. So the human brain and the higher consciousness of each person is part of the great holograph - or Matrix as I prefer to call it. (Note - I posted a short paper on Matrix Theory in the Astral Theories forum.)
The second point is that many people have programmed certain Realities into their brains for a very long time. They therefore refuse to accept certain revolutionary scientific and social ideas for a long time. This would explain the obstinacy of many religious leaders and the faithful to accept modern scientific discoveries. The controversy over evolution is a good example of this.

You obviously have a natural talent for projection lyn92. My advice is to allow yourself to go out of body naturally (as it already is happening). Then, once projected, attempt to take greater control over what is happening. Some people use verbal affirmations like "Clarity now" (to see better) or 'I want to visit so and so" (to go visit a person or a place).
After a few more projections you will be able to control where you go and who you see. (Note - Giving some thought to where you might like to go before falling alsleep will help quite a bit.) Soon you will have an ability for projection that will be the envy of most of the people on this board.

Thought elementals Can be created and programmed by anyone who sets aside enough time and uses the necessary effort. The best way to create a thought elemental is during meditation. Animals make the best models upon which to design a thought elemental. The appearence of an animal can easily be 'conjured up' and visualized.
    All the aspects of a thought elemental need to be thought through (whether it is an animal or not). Visualize as much of your creation as possible. In the example of an animal (example an eagle) picture how the eagle looks, visualize how it moves both in the air and on the ground, hear its cries, feels the eagle's feathers ,etc.
    A thought elemental can be programmed to follow a certain course of action, such as protection or providing defense. Again this is best done during meditation. Unfortunately I can give no guarenties on how long an elemental will last once created or whether that elemental will continue to follow its program for any specific length of time. As is usual when experimenting with the unknown a good deal of trial and error is needed.
    (Note. I first experimented with animal thought elementals 2 or 3 years ago with limited success. Honestly I did not put a great deal of time and effort into the process. During the past 2 or 3 months I was able to create and program an animal thought elemental mainly for defense. To date I am quite pleased with the result. lol [8D])

Thanks for those remarks PeacefulWarrior.
    Unfortunately Knowing about a situation is not always the same as being able to Do something about that situation. That pretty much sums up the events since Sept 11 (2001). Those events seem to be accelarating, especially in the last 2 or 3 months. I am still internally debating about what can be done. What are the option ? Here are a few random thoughts.
    a) Use projection as a tool to try to find out what is happening> (Note - I have tried this and have to date been singularly unsuccessful.)
    b) Use remote viewing the same way as option a). (Note I did have one episode of RV where I saw a huge underground complex (beneath Baghdad ??) where 3 large generators were situated.)
    c) Call on higher powers (eg. Spirit guides or guardians) (Note I am not religious so would probably leave this option as a last resort.)
    d) Employ magic or psychic powers as a). (Note I don't practice magic seriously.)
    Any comments, suggestions or advice is greatly appreciated and will be taken into consideration.

You seem to be 'right on target' in describing the influence that parasitic energies have over masses of society.
    Further it is quite possible that there are levels of parasitic energy that loop inside of other levels of parasitic energy. The entire Mid East is an example of this. One level is the Arab-Israeli conflict. This ongoing confrontation is used by All arab leaders to deflect criticism from their corruption and incompetency. Then there are individual dictators. Of course Saddam Hussein is getting all the attention now. Yet there are plenty of others like Assad of Syria and Qaddafi (sp) of Libya.
    Finally there is the hijacking of the religion of Islam by fundamentalists. For many arabs Islam have become a religion of hate and destruction.
     So when looking at the war in Iraq I mentally try to complete the dots and connect the Arab-Israeli conflict, Saddam's own murderous and corrupt regime and the teachings of hate by radical imams to get a more or less complete picture of why so many people are behaving so beastly (murderous actually) in that region.
    The effects of these parasitic (or murderous energies) can manifest themselves on the ethereal and astral planes in a number of ways. I will briefly mention only 2.
    First when a young male arab fundamentalist radical projects into the ethereal or astral he is more likely to seek and violently confront westerners there. I have no doubt at all that at least some of the negative entities encountered recently are discarnate muslem radicals. (Perhaps a few of those are permanently discarnate ( = dead) and if so then personally I feel no remorse or compassion.)
    Secondly extreme emotions and thoughts that are extended over long periods of time can create what are called thought elementals. After a while a thought elemental can take an existence of its own free of its original creator(s). It is my belief that thought elementals are responsible for some of the cold spots and energy vortices encountered in various haunted houses.
    BTW if you would like then I will compile a list of some of the most recent encounters with negative entities. This list would include the website where the reports can be found and both the posters name and the title of their post.

Matrix Theory Part 2

                   Sum Over Histories
  Each of the many worlds/universes is described by the D4 D5 E6 E7 model of Superstring theory. The (MWI) Sum Over Histories describes the universe as being a megaverse. The megaverse is explained as a sum of all the (possible) alternate earths/universes. Other terms that are sometimes used interchangably with worlds/universes are parallel earths, parallel universes and alternate timelines. Each term describes a potential 'path' that a physical world event can take.leading to a potentially different and separate history or time-line. Each  path (= timeline) is a separate and distinct history that exists either inside or outside our 4 dimensional Space-Time universal Matrix. For example if Path A is equal to path B (A = B) then both paths (timelines) exist within the same universe. If path A does not equal path B then each path (timeline) exists in a different (alternate) universe. In the latter case path A is an alternate history that occurs in a separate, alternate (or parallel) earth/universe.

                                   Links
  The D4 D5 E6 E7 theory describes links (connections) between alternate universes (or 3D Actuality ST Sphere mini-matrices) in terms of 4 dimensional Hyper-Diamond lattice Space-Time vertexes. Each 4D Hyper-Diamond lattice ST link takes the form of a 4 dimensional future lightcone. The shape of these (future) lightcones are best visualized as a vertex or vortex. They can also be pictured as tetrahedrons or quatum pentacles. These (theoretical) future lightcone tetrahedron vertex links connect one 3D Actually mini-matrix universe with its nearest neighbor alternate 3D mini-matrix universe. It has already been theorized that such links could connect different regions of space within our physical universe. These links may also be 'time portals' allowing for time travel backwards into the past or forwards into the future. There is considerable theoretical disagreement as to whether a time traveller would 'visit' another era of time in our physical universe or whether that traveller would necessarily 'visit' a time period in another, alternatde universe. Under such a theoretical construction travel via two links connecting close (neighbor) universes would be reversible, ie. allow the traveller to return from where he/she started. Travel via 2 links connecting long/far universes (time periods ?) would be irreversible meaning that it would be a one way trip.
  The structure of the 4D Hyper-Diamond latticed Space-Time vertex links. Each link is a 4 quarternionic unit vector future lightcone with a structure :
{(+1 +/- i +/- j +/- k /2)}. Each future lightcone link is a superposition of all possible links from a given vertex to the many worlds/universes/timelines.The amplitude of each link (superposition) is determined by
  a) the fermion state of the original vertex, and
  b) the boron state of the other 7 lightcone links at the orisal matrix. These 4 dimensions are the same as those described as the 4D Material Universal Space-Time (ST) Matrix.
?? A vertex of the world/universe/timeline of prior history of that given origin vertex. The probability of a link equals the product of A with its complex conjugate. (The complex conjugate of A = A of the past and future interchanged by time reve

4D Material Universal Space-Time (M.U.ST) Matrix = Ethereal Plane
  The Ethereal Plane or etheric plane is a term frequently encountered in descriptions of people who have managed to separate their consciousness (variously known as soul, spirit, ka, linga sarira, causal body or mental body) from their physical body. These people then undergo an experience which is variously termed out of body experience (OBE, OOBE, OOB), astral projection, ethereal projection and/or spirit projection. Because the physical proof of such experiences has (in most cases) been lacking (though indirect and circumstancial evidence has been provided on a number of well documented cases) these experiences have largely been ignored, and are considered unproven, by mainstream scientists. However, with the advent of the concept/model of a 4D (M.U.ST) Matrix and the integration of the Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics into that concept we can describe the Ethereal Plane as the esoteric description of that same 4D (M.U.ST) Matrix. Other ethereal planes are additional separate, distinct 4D (M.U.ST) Matrix.
  Astral/ethereal projectors, mystics, occultists and OBEers and NDEers speak of multiple astral/ethereal planes. This is because there are more than one 4D (M.U.ST) Matrix in the Multiverse. While it is true that individual descriptions of different accounts vary and terminology is confusing and often interchangable it is still accurate to describe the ethereal planes in terms of equivalents of the 4 D (M.U.ST) Matrices (of the multiverse).
  Further discussion will focus on a theoretical structure of separate 4D (M.U.ST) matrices, a cohesive structure of the Multiverse, and the theoretical differences of the Ethereal Planes from the 'Astral' planes.
  Final Note. The different 4D (M.U.ST) Matrices of the Multiverse correspond nearly identically to the 'locations' described by Robert Monroe as 'Locale I'.