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alchimiste, where did you get your information that children do not have their own astral bodies until they are 5-7 years old? I personally believe this to be incorrect but am open to viewing your source or reasoning for this.

I do not know about mIRC or AIM. I would have to do that at home and it would take me forever to download files that big at home. I would rather do it at work if at all possible, much faster connection. But we might have to do it that way. Where do I get AIM or mIRC?

I cannot think of another place to store files on the internet that is free anymore. I will see if I can think of something.

I have only read RB's article once so maybe I did not get all of it but this is how I understood it. Basicly there is one "God" or "consciousness" or "spirit", I do not remember what Bruce called it. But at the highest level there is just oneness of all minds, just one. From there we all descend down until we are individuals with individual thoughts. We carnate on the physical and live our lives then move back through the levels back to the oneness. So really we are all one. We are all reincarnations of each other, or rather of the one. At the highest level, there is no time. But this one has carnated throughout time, so has really experienced everything already. But to us, being on the physical plane inside time we can only see linearly.

From the article I see it as saying that both thoughts are correct. We do stay in the afterlife, yet we are reincarnated as well because we are all one. In a way linear reincarnation is easier to understand, but it is not entirely true and it not good for those that seek to understand the truth. If what Bruce wrote is the truth.

You are very wise. I very much agree with you. Though I have not encountered any "negs" or anything hostile towards me so I cannot really say for sure what you have said is true. I do feel strongly that the best way to deal with something negative is to send love to it, or something positive. I also strongly feel that anything negative you encounter is your own negativity. The astral is very thought responsive. It is also very real. So when people see something negative and get scared they think it is how it is on the physical. But really if you get scared or encounter something negative your thoughts create what you see. I read this example somewhere but do not remember where. If you are walking through the forest on the astral at night and having a good time. It is beautiful and really nice. But you think you hear something and suddenly get afraid. Then a monster jumps out and attacks you. Some will think that it was a monster coming upon them that made the noise. But in reality the person heard something, got scared and they created a monster in their fear. If you send love towards this it should go away or turn into something positive. I am not sure if attacking something yourself is harmful, but if you become negative it cannot help. If you become more loving though, that to me would help you become a better person.


Frank is able to descrive this really well. If you look through the posts you should be able to find some of his describing this.

Kakkarot, there have been and are my words used to describe a high being people see as God. I do not think that you should be so upset about words. Beyond the physical, especially in a place where any god would be there are no words. I suggest you meditate and try to go beyond such physical notions. I say this not to offend you, I sure do not mean to do that. If I am not mistaken from other posts you have not had an OBE. I say this to try to get you to open your mind. Such close mindedness can be harmful when out of body, harmful not that it can hurt you in a physical sense but it can definately limit your experiences and you may not be able to understand what you experience.

Lots of Love


Astralc, did she go to this planet on the physical plane?

Grenade01, I do see your point. It would depend on how this is taught. Astral projection is something that you can do, not a religion. She should be given the basic knowledge of what is happening so she can be better prepared. If she is left in the dark then this experience can continue to be a fearful negative one. I have read many experiences from people who have had OBE when young and because they did not know what was going on saw them as bad. Looking back the people say they wish they knew what was going on so they could explore it more. People should not have to conform just to satisfy what is considered to be normal, especially in a situation such as this. If this were the case we would all be Christians (not saying there is anything wrong with Christianity) and no one would be exploring out of body experiences,  other such subjects, or any other diverse ideas.

Actually I thought more people would reply to this post and give you some answers such as that. A few years ago I tried to go veggie. But the problem was I did not know the answer to the question you have asked. So I sort of got away from it. Maybe if I found a better book than the one I got it would have been better. Maybe they got a Vegaterians For Dummies book out or something. Now I just try to throw in some fruits and vegetables for snacks instead of chips or candy.

Mobius, I was not really addressing you directly. I was just expanding on your post with some ideas. I look forward to reading the rest of your ideas.

I think a good question to ask is, how many are still in the religion they were born into?

I was born into Christainity. My parents were not hardcore Christains but they were and still seem to be strong believers. So of coarse as I was growing up I went to a Christain church and pretty much learned to accept that it is the "Truth". Paying attention to the lessons I was taught not to question the validity of the religion. How do you know it is right and true? You just have to have faith was the answer to the question. At the time it was an ok answer. But as I grew up and my mind wished to grow that answer no longer satisfied me. For the longest time I had to deal with the programming that was done to me making me believe I was bad for questioning. But one major question kept coming to me, what about other religions? Are they wrong since this one is suppose to be the only right one? Are they not told they are to have faith that their religions are right when questioned as well? Who is right? Who is wrong? Is everyone wrong? I felt there was more than just religion so I broke off from it to seek. I still value the lessons that religions have, but I have grown to believe that there is no "salvation" in them. If there was, why would a god create so many people and then allow so many different beliefs but only one is the way to stay out of eternal fire? Would he really create only to torture so much of the creation? I could not accept that.

That may not exactly answer the questions asked, but I feel it is valid to answer why I do not believe some things as much as it is to answer why I do believe some things.

Now I search for something that is real, something that I can believe in because I have proof, experience, and have rationally thought it through. It would seem that if you wish to discover what is beyond the physical you must go there. So astral projection and out of body experiences are a way to find fruth. But traveling out of body can be tricky and requires a lot of skill to see truth beyond the illusions that are there. But if you wish to find answers that is where they will be. Or that is my opinion on where they can be found.

Maybe she should know that birds are not physically designed to be able to cry. I have heard that most animals (and birds) are not able to cry. I do not know how true this is.  

Atleast she lets you know right off the bat that she is not a compassionate woman. Some wait to show you that side when it is better to know up front.

To all of those birds who have frozen to death in the winter and have fallen off their tree branches WITH tears in their eyes!!

Yahoo.com has a briefcase which is a file storage area. I think it is still free. It gives you like 30mb of space. If they are not too big you could store them there and then share them so others can download them. I would like to listen to them.

I had a similar experience before. I was lieing down trying to project. I was in a trance state and after awhile I got tired and just felt like I could not project. So I decided to open my eyes and stop. Well I opened my eyes and was looking up at the light on the ceiling. The light looked like it was on, the thing is it was not on when I started trying to project. In fact the room was very sunny. I then remembered that it was so sunny that I put a blindfold over my eyes so I should not be able to see anything. Then the "scene" faded out and everything was black. I removed the blind fold and the room was how I left it when I laid down. I am not sure exact how to do this. I may have been just slightly outside my body and did not realize it. This was when I was first learning to project so I did not have a lot of experience with astral sight or real time sight or whatever this is. I guess it would be similar to projecting.

I have heard both sides of this. I am not sure if drugs actually do hurt your "soul" or energy directly. It is really not important for what I am about to say. You can do anything you want without the drugs. You can project, meditate, cultivate energy, etc without drugs. All you need is your mind and a little practice. It may take time but you CAN do it without drugs. So if you can do it without drugs why use them? Especially if the drug is illegal you can get in legal trouble. I am sure that drugs can hurt your physical body if abused. So if you can do all that you want without drugs why use them and take the chance of hurting your self or your legal record? You will feel a lot more confident about yourself when you do this by yourself with no aids.

I do not know about these Aliens or "negs" but if you do meet some thing while out of body ask its true purpose and who it really is. Seek the truth. True intentions are not as easy to hide out of body as they are when they can be cloaked in flesh.

I have heard a few stories about people going to other planets. But I would question these stories as they may not be on other planets but other parts of the astral.

Well I am not as advanced as some on here. I have had several projections over the past few years. I guess it has been about 3 or 4 years now that I have become interested in metaphysics and actively tried projecting. Really I have always been interested but it was not until recently that I discovered what it was that interested me and how to find info on the subject. When I was in high school maybe around 6 or 8 years ago (wow has it been that long!) I had a spontaneous projection. At the time I had no idea what it was. It was not until a few years ago that I found out what it was and then started trying to project. I have had several successful projections since. The bad thing is with my situation I do not have time to project. Seems every time I am able to make time my situation changes and I loose any time to project. I have not projected now in about 2 or 3 months and I must say I miss it very much. Hopefully I will get some time in the future to be able to practice again on a regular basis.

Sounds like your body energy. Maybe you have blockage as someone else mentioned. Have you tried the NEW energy system?

Maybe you are just getting old. Just kidding.  This is very common. I think we all have experienced this, especially when driving. After driving to work the same way time after time it becomes old and we get bored paying attention. So we go off to our thoughts and I guess it is our subconscious that takes over driving. I have gone long periods without knowing what happened while I was driving to work. Sometimes I remember leaving home and then suddenly I am almost to work. Kind of scary but as long as you are ok then nothing bad happened. I seem to notice that if I am "out there" and something like a car pulls out in front of me or just something to mess up the regular course of things then I snap back. The scary thing is stop lights and stop signs. I always wonder what I did when I came to them. Luckily for me there are not many on my way to work.

There are lots of cook books out there that deal with just vegetables. I bought one and used it a few times. If you are serious about this then you should be able to get more use out of it than me.  Take a trip to your local bookstore or library (do they have cookbooks there?).

GOOD LUCK!

Creation or Evolution?

Why do science and religion fight to no end when it comes to the origins of life? Science and religion can actually go hand in hand if they would stop fighting.  Did a god create everything? Did everything just happen and then start evolving. Science has basicly prooven that evolution exists, to an extent anyway. Things evolve to fit their environment. Environments change so life has to change to continue on or else it dies. So if you believe in a god then why would you find this offensive? Do you not think that the Creator of all things would give life the ability to change to better fit its evironment so that the creation could go on? Would you find it so offensive if the Creator did start out small and allow tiny organisms to evolve into larger animals, and animals evolve into more and more "intelligent" beings? If this were true would it make this creation and Creator any less than if the Creator just said let there be and it was there?
I guess the big question would be is the Christian Bible literal or just symbolic? Even if it is literal and lets for just one moment say that evolution is true and that there is a God. Would this God tell early man how he did everything? Do you think that man would have understood evolution? Or any other method that a Creator may have used? If you believe in a Creator or a God, does it really matter how he did it?
Maybe religious people fight science because if one part of the Bible is prooven to have a flaw then they will have to question the entire Bible. This maybe good, but if you believe in the Bible and part is not entirely true it would not make the entire thing false. It would just mean that the interpretation is wrong and needs to be reviewed.
Do I believe in Creation or Evolution? I do not know. I believe in proof and being rational. Is a very old document proof or is a new one that takes two things and makes an assumption proof? I guess to me personally I do not really care. Yes I will always wonder and would like to know, but I do not feel we will ever have the whole truth along with the proof in my life time if ever on the physical plane. I guess that this is true for David's questions. How do you proove there is no god? How do you proove there is? Maybe the question we should be asking ourselves is: Is it important if there is a god or not?

I do not know what to say about Aliens being our origins. If aliens did plant life on earth then where did they come from? Who created them?

I plan on reading Adventures Beyond the Body sometime. Just add it to the ever growing list of books to read. So many books so little time.

William Buhlman seems possess a lot of knowledge on this subject and seeks out truths. Atleast that is the impression I got from reading Secret of the Soul.

Is your friend blond? Hehehe sorry I could not resist. No offense to anyone.

I have watched the show a few times about a year ago I think. I enjoyed it.  He does seem to be the real thing. With mediums I have seen on tv they will ask questions and if someone says no to a question to jump to the next. With John he actually seems like he is communicating with someone. I mean he will spend 10 or more minutes on one subject even if the people do not know what he is talking about until they do remember. I cannot see a fake doing that.

I saw one of his books at a book store a few weeks ago. I read a little bit of it. Seems when he was younger he would have OBEs.

Anyway, I tend to believe him but you can believe whatever you wish.

Sorry I did not mean to aid in the spiraling of getting this off topic. My words were never ment to be negative or accusing. I could have choosen a better way to write my last post. I merely wanted to get people thinking.

I have been getting this really ever since I moved into our current house a few months ago. But I do not usually get it when I am going to sleep. Instead I have been seening faces when I wake up in the middle of the night. It use to happen about every night but now it has not been happening but a few times a week. When it usually happens I am too asleep to realize that I should explore this and usually just push it away so I can go back to sleep. I had a few very vivid images a few nights ago involving a full moon, a woman's face, a man's face, and some neon blue rings.

Also many years ago when I was younger, single digits and early teens, I use to be able to see faces, objects, and nature scenes almost every time I would look into the dark or close my eyes. At the time it kind of scared me since I was young and did not know what it was. Now I can rarely see any, though sometimes I do get abstract pictures other than the faces I have been seeing at night. I wish I had known what was going on when I was younger as I would have explored it.

You should explore this as David has said. Unless you really do not like what is going on. If you understand it you may find it much more enjoyable.

I actually find the opposite true for me. If I go long periods of time without projecting I have to take time to be able to project again. If I have not projected in a few months then I usually have to meditate for awhile each day for about a week or two before I am able to project again. If I meditate and try projecting every day or several times a week I am usually much more successful on each try.
Sometimes I will experience what you have mentioned, especially when I first started projecting or when I am trying to project again after a long break. I think the reason behind this is because you get too excited. You did it the day before and now you are thinking about all that you want to do so you kind of get in a hurry to get out or you get excited about getting out. This seems to be my problem at times. I do not really think you get drained by projecting a lot. You do it every night and are not drained in the morning. I think that you actually project more the more you project. So just try to remain calm when you try projecting.
GOOD LUCK!

You should be able to project in any position. It is not the position that matters but rather if you are comfortable and able to relax. Your problem might be that you are too relaxed on your stomach and fall asleep. Also if you have it in your mind that you can only project from a certain position then you will find it difficult to project from another position. I have projected on my back, sitting up, and siting leaning forward. I mostly do it on my back but this is just because that is how I feel comfortable. I have read where people have projected from on their stomaches and from on their sides. Some find it easier to do it this way and some do not.