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You talked to your son in the astral ? That was surely a dream ?

Hi Squirrelly

I dont know for the dream part but the twitching is a symptom of trying to go on a astral projection before or when the transe occur.

Surely that was such an experience for your body to go on a lucid dreams 2 times and did a little OBE 2 times...

So its why you feel confused.

How in the world can you felt in love in the OBE.

Felt in love with an astral body ?  

Yeah I understand , it look like a good thing to do.

How do Reiki work ? Does its like hypnotize ?

Maybe is too high for your brain to record.

That make perfect sense CFTraveler , its intelligent when you see it in this point  

That sound great for a first experience , you look like a guy with talent in that.

If you awoke is surely because you tried to move your body. Just focus on going 1 feet in the air behind you. Or just imagine a rope or whatever suit you...

No im french from canada quebec  

Yeah im happy to hear that , I was thinking more and more about I was not really AP and it was just a little dream.

I dont know if you can hear a specific song in the astral if you think about it that would be a kick butt experience !  

Something very strange happened yesterday night when I was trying to OBE and I have some question because its verys trange didnt know I could with this method...

So i went to bed early to try an OBE. First I began my classic method of trying to OBE with seeing the dots into my eyes (when my eyes are close) and concentrate on my breathing.

After like 20 minutes I begin to feel some little snesation but I was not in transe . Nothing freaky here , I experienced that before.

After like 10 minutes after that I begin don't think about the Astral Projection anymore . It happen to me when im trying an OBE and im too sleepy. Usually ,when im too sleepy I can't go in transe and I began sleeping without my permission...

But something strange happened... After a couples of minutes , I think about evrything like when I want to sleep to do dreams or just to sleep. I didnt think about AP anymore. Suddenly , a strange song come into my mind like that. I didnt forgot the song but its a little cloudy in my mind. Just to say , the song was very strange and a little bit freaky. At tis point , I was just hearing a song , nothing more was on my mind and I didnt feel my body. Like when you listen to a song in a dreams , the same feelings. The problem is I never listened to a song in my mind THAT CLEAR in my whole life beside in dreams. At first , I was thinking that I begin a dream , because it was clear and strange.

After that suddenly , I feel a little sensation of OBE in my mind (like 2-3 seconds), I was not in transe but it was strange.(At this point when I feeled the AP , the song stopped like THAT)  So like I was thinking about everything except OBE and suddenly my astral body go out of my physical body.

I never experienced the movement of the astral body on my entire experience trying to AP. The biggest thing that happened to me was seeing with my physical eyes my chamber when I was in transe.

So I go out of my corpse like that and suddendly I return to my body because it was too strange and the song scared me.

So whats the point ? Why did I try so hard all the time and I can't go further than the transe and suddenly my astral body goes out without thinking about it ?
Why do I heard such a strange song and after does an OBE without knowing anything ?
Why did I heard a song when I was not in a dreams ? I never experienced that of my life...

Its very strange... It happened like that , really fast without knowing I was trying to AP.

Somebody could tell me what happen to me ?

Hi everyone

Thank you for the answer , it helped me and I learn a lot.
Everyone in this board look so cool !  

This Reiki things look a little bit strange to me . It look confused for me to think about someone sending reiki to another in long distance.


hypnotist1 -) Im not saying you to do it , but in exemple , can you give me reiki like that or any person on the board or do you have to know the guy ?

And can it help me with my OBE or its just stupid to do it if I have no disease or something to increase ?

Because I readed a little about activating my Chakra before doing an OBE but it look strange and confusing.

Thank you I never checked this part of the board I will check it tommorow because I go sleep in a couple of minutes.

Thanks again...

Im in the same position , I can't actually project myself. I tried the rope technique yesterday but I didnt think I was high enough on the transe to accomplish it. I will try another time in a couple of hours.

Oh man you look old when youre saying things like that.

But I dont think AP is against god ... If theres a god somewhere surely he didn't know that someday we will going to do AP and if he does know now , all ours AP will be total freaky experience and that's not the case.
I think God don't mind.

(If theres a god and IF AP is really that ((and not a dream))

Sorry but thats just look like trying to go on a OBE . Maybe you don't do it but maybe too your mind is full of Astrak Projection memory and you can't shove it out.

ÉYeah thank you for sharing , it say clearely that sometine you can have Great lifetime dreams.

Is it me or it look like a lucid dream and not an AP ?

Your mind is not hazy but your mind is changed ... Like you dont think about bad things like murder or violence. And yes you are more conscious.

If youre felling vibration and youre clearly pushing hard to AP and after you AP its surely an AP but if suddenly like that youre above your body and you didnt feel time spend before the experience its surely a lucid dreams.

I got in transe one time in Lucid dreaming . Iwas dreaming and I was lucid , I thinked hard about doing an AP and the next thing that happen to me , I was in my bed in transe trying to get out. Your feelings in the AP

I think you can see you in the past time and your house is totally strange because if there was guy before you in your house , you can see it like in the past.

You're saying the truth ?

If its true that you seen the girl house and after your talked to her , and that was the same description of the room  , its sure is a proof that AP is REAL .

Can someone tell me what is reiki ?

Another think its that if its exist for real (and not just another type of dreams) , it will put in question if the bible and god really exist. So they say its evil because they afraid about someone learning the truth that this or that God is not the ''good'' one or the right one.

No , in AP the mind is clearly focus on what your doing not like in dreams you don't necessary know what you're doing , thats why sometime you don't think about your dream and awake the morning with no memory of dreams.

Your not fully conciousness but its more memorable than a dreams but you have to know that your mind is a little changed.

You can tell the difference because in lucid dreams you don't have the strange feelings of vibration and in AP youre fully conscious or what you're doing , in lucid dreams you appear in a dreams like that.
Another proof that it was a dream is that you have feeled vibration when in AP (in your dream) , you dont have vibration in AP , just before or after the AP.

where do you see the F*something* state ?

Yeah and it help to scare danger that lies ahead.