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Interesting question there, first of all, what is waking reality? obviously its what we are all seeing and experiencing now, the state called beta state,  most of our times we spend it to some extent, day dreaming, we get up in the morning, do our thing, than go back to bed at night, or so it goes. It feels quiet real doesn't it? the keyboard feels real, the chair I sit on feels real, it all feels and looks very real, just as a magicians tricks seem real.

To answer your question, is it like waking reality? some will say yes, but I will say no, the reason why many whom have experienced such phenomena say its like waking reality, is that one still has that logical and creative parts of there mind there, one can make full choices, make judgment's, make jokes even, its all there.

How ever there is one element that cannot be described with mere words when one is out of body, phasing, astral projecting or what ever. There is a sheer magic that goes beyond words, a sheer knowing, here you are, floating out side your home,  a relatively mundane every day place, yet there is this sheerness that just clicks, you know you are out of your body, its so magic...one must experience it, to know this feeling, its incredible.

To answer a question in a way, about falling into a dream while out of body, the very same thing happens when you are in body, daydreaming, ever daydreamed and lost track of where you where, you lost track of even your out side environment, I've done the same while out of body, I daydreamed on purpose and fell into a dream pool, i quickly pulled my self out and that was that, so keep them thoughts in strict check.

oh thanks man, alex grey made these images, and a good chap made the animated giff for me.


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be detached as possible, pay as little to any attention to what is happening, eg vibrations, and slowly but surely, you will start to float out, thats all, the more you thrash around, the harder you make it on your self. keep it simple is the key.

I seriously doubt that ALL blind people cannot see during obes, the only limitations is ones self.

cool, thanks telos.

Quantum mechanics, the centerpiece of modern physics, is misinterpreted as implying that the human mind controls reality and that the universe is one connected whole that cannot be understood by the usual reduction to parts.

However, no compelling argument or evidence requires that quantum mechanics plays a central role in human consciousness or provides instantaneous, holistic connections across the universe. Modern physics, including quantum mechanics, remains completely materialistic and reductionistic while being consistent with all scientific observations.

The apparent holistic, nonlocal behavior of quantum phenomena, as exemplified by a particle's appearing to be in two places at once, can be understood without discarding the commonsense notion of particles following definite paths in space and time or requiring that signals travel faster than the speed of light.

No superluminal motion or signalling has ever been observed, in agreement with the limit set by the theory of relativity. Furthermore, interpretations of quantum effects need not so uproot classical physics, or common sense, as to render them inoperable on all scales-especially the macroscopic scale on which humans function. Newtonian physics, which successfully describes virtually all macroscopic phenomena, follows smoothly as the many-particle limit of quantum mechanics. And common sense continues to apply on the human scale.

yadda yadda yadda, we are myopic visisioned twits who cannot see beyound our eyes, stay within the fence yadda yadda yawn.

raises hand, might as well.

uhmhmmm righto.

it is imposible for a physical being to exsist with out a spirit animating it, it is the spirit in which gives the body life. Oh btw, very nice site too, exactly what I have been looking for my self! thanks.

Why drive a car? to get to places faster.

Bear in mind that Rob has been doing this for over 30 years until his exit from this plane, explaining why he had so many mind blowing experiences.

facinating!

Cool experience man, realy cool, about the death star, if you are into the earth/alien thing, the orion empire have huge death stars which sole purpose is to destroy planets, so...I only heard this, dont know if its true or not, but interesting you saw that.

cheers.

I would like to bring up the issue of dry spells, I dont think its been discussed enough, what my question is, what would you consider a dry spell? one week? one month? etc, I find that dry spells occur for me when I lose focus and interest for a little while on astral related things, maybe its what i need to do on a higher level sort of thing, what does one do to drag them selves out of it?

cheers.

wow, very beautiful! also I realy enjoyed your writing style, are you are a writer of some sort?

Hmmm interesting experience, I remember as a child I awoke phsyicaly one night to see one of my small plastic boxes with assorted toys near me, i reached out with my hand and before my hand reached there, it faded away, this was when i was 7 or so years.

lol! thats so old! its fake  

My advice is unless you know what you are doing and where you are going, I generally would steer clear of such areas, I have heard that such facilities have "alien technology which can detect non physical intruders and trace them back to there body via the cord" ! now...I am not sure if that is true or not, but its a very high possibility that they shield them selves by some method either electronic or energetic or what ever.

Interesting, I too have had dream obes where i projected from a dream, and became fully aware, what i noticed when i seperated from the dream body was a lack of vibes and intense noise when in comparison to a physical seperation, could it be that we are seperating from the dream body hence the lack of vibrations? interesting stuff.

I have had simmilar experiences, though not as that calabre, i say, just relax and let it come through, hopefuly it should work.

Facinating Nagual! I have my self once experienced an experience similar to your's a few weeks back, I attempted to open my eyes during the vibrations, but instead my vision shifted down onto my left cheek in which I could see my physical left eye 1/4 open.

Let me share this experience I had a while ago, I remember going out to my neighbors lawn in non physical state, and seeing there family circled around a white Mercedes in the garage, a new one at that, I awoke, went to the window and no Mercedes nor family to be found, placed the experience on the back burner so to speak and went about my day.

About 2 or so months latter, I am driving down my street and I see there daughter driving a black Mercedes up our street!, I wish I had wrote down what model it was 2 months prior, but they looked (according to memory) spot on, so it seems when we see things "wrong" when we awake...perhaps we haven't seen it..yet! perhaps all those things we see "wrong" are in fact psychic energy, possibilities, alternative realities etc, so please, do share such experiences like this.

Thank you EnderZ & stone, I have heard of this my self, its a possibility that this plane is made of pure energy, lets be honest, there is very little known about "reality", I have had experiences where I have verified things, so its a mixture, perhaps when we open doors, we are opening a energetic component to that door? or perhaps we project an image of it, like a hologram? could be..could be, the true nature of reality is fascinating, and one can get lost just getting caught up in the little details, oh well, look sharp though, we are pioneers in a way in this brave new horizon.

Greetings gents and ladies, I would like to bring up a subject mater which has been on my mind for some time, that is not seeing ones body during an OBE, I have been projecting for 3 years or so now, and only seen my body once or twice, now it is no importance that I see it, but when i purposely look I turn back and see an empty bed, than it gets odder, you than open a door, now..a bit of a question, how does a non physical being open a door in a physical world? I know I know, astral counterpart right? what I really would like is to have an in depth discussion with you fine beings on such matters, and I intend not to reduce AP as mere mental flatulence, nor over active imagination, or "dreams" that is not what I intend, what I intend is that we discuss such matters as not seeing ones body, the nature of OBE RTZ environments.

I am some what confused after reading others experiences where they saw there body asleep or there body on a gurney in an NDE, and I know that others on this forum have experienced this, what are your thoughts people? is it that we some how on a deeper level don't want to see it? interesting stuff huh?

Regards-

Manuel

for those that like me who have experienced astral travel quite natural and wish to repeat the wonderful experience again, I strongly urge them not to! I as a medium was saved from my foolishness, it can be dangerous".

yeah right lady   lets all live in fear, and thow away syuch great experiences, use caution, but not fear.