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...because my heart was beating so fast - I didn't know what was happening.

I was floating above my body and so happy that I made it this time.  There was a beautiful atmosphere in my room and I was joyful.  Then my heart started beating fast, and increasing its speed.  I had to go back into my body as I couldn't ignore it any longer.

Is this normal? 

Ambientsound - thanks for the well-thought reply.

Thank you Adun.

Hi Rezaf

I don't know who they are but they don't sound like your friends.  I learned from my consciousness development course that each of us has approximately: 3 helpers, 3 blind guides and 3 intruders.  The astral is similar to our world in that there are consciousnesses who are more evolved and genuinely want to help you (helpers/angels), there are on-the-job trainee helpers who can get things wrong sometimes but in good faith (blind guides), and there are the real baddies who are self centred and deliberately or not deliberately hurt others.  I would say those that you are seeing could well be your intruders.

My advice is that you cleanse your body and home energy.  Do lots of exercises / vibration to cleanse your body, and send energy to your home (bedroom especially) to cleanse your environment.  Once you create a sphere around your home filled with your own energy, they won't be able to get in!

Do not be put off by them, astral traveling will help you enormously, so keep on practicing (after cleansing)

All the best

Venus

hello, anyone, please help. I'm worried.

Thanks.

I am really confused - hope you can help clarify. 

I seem to find myself in the hypnagogic state a lot these days, when my intention is to project after having done energy work. For the third time today, I experienced sleep paralysis and saw and communicated with spirits in my bedroom.  Not very nice spirits, always wanting to steal my energy just like parasites.  They seem greedy, immature and lost.  This morning I even communicated with one of three who were sucking up my energy.  She seemed to say that they were recently deceased young friends without a care in the world.  As they were about to go to their next victim, I said to her that she and her friends should find help in evolved colonies on the spheres of the planet (been reading about this!)and prepare for rebirth.  Now I'm not sure if this is hallucination or real.  I don't want it to be real because I feel invaded in my own home.  Is it possible for spirits to take advantage of us like that? 

I'd be grateful for your thoughts.

hi there

the one I'm reading is called "Projections of the Consciousness: A diary of out-of-body experiences". It's a small book.  I bought it on ebay.  I also have Projectiology, still in its pack.  Yes, it's a very big book, and is the textbook for the main course in his institute (International Academy of Consciousness).  I am currently on this course so I thought it's worth investing in it.  Actually 50 dollars is cheap.  It's 80 pounds in UK!

I suggest you get the small one for now.  They have an online bookshop or you can check ebay/amazon, your choice.  Their website is: www.iacworld.org

best wishes
venus

Thanks Ambient.  It was more than an hour after my energy exercise.  It looks like my body is rejecting alcohol in any case.  Guess I have to say bye bye for good   

Hey guys

I don't think this is written anywhere, but do you think that maybe there is an unwritten rule or recommendation somewhere that says that you should not be drinking any alcohol if/when you're practicing some kind of energy work?  Thing is, I have been doing a lot of energy exercises lately as I'm trying to project, but have found that I cannot drink one glass of wine without it making me really drunk and sick.  What the heck is going on?  I mean, if I have to choose, I choose astral travelling every single time.

tipsy venus   

Hiya

I am reading Waldo Vieira's book - he's had hundreds of OBEs.

He says that projected consciousnesses have 1) light around their etheric bodies (aura or holochakra) 2) as Psan said they have silver cord connecting them to their bodies.

On the other hand, deceased people have dull aura and no silver cord.  Saying this, in his astral travels there was a time when he had to hide his silver cord to avoid being detected in a hell-ish sort of place he went to investigate.  He was found out, but luckily he was able to 'fly' out of the place.  At another time, he met a deceased consciousness who was an old acquaintance in the physical life, and this person didn't know he was projected and actually asked him how long he has been dead, to which he laughed.  This deceased person was amazed by Dr Vieira's ability to project and do everything deceased people can do, like flying and walking through people and walls.

Interesting book.  I would recommend it.

venus

Makes a lot of sense.  Thanks CFTraveler.

hi Silver

You are right, I meant to say I woke up in the physical world, not RTZ.  And thanks for your comments.

the thing is, when I try to observe passively as you said, I get too sleepy and before I know it, fall into deep sleep, and wake up the following morning    When I told my teacher this, he said "if you are planning to go somewhere, say at 7pm in real life, you get your physical body ready and leave.  Similarly if you are planning to project, you need to get up and leave - you do not wait for it to happen to you, you make it happen".  Makes sense to me, but it's not everyday I walk out of my body at will!  So I'm trying to get that round my head.  But I am open to any helpful info as I am absolutely determined to wake up in the astral, so I will try out your suggestion.

best
venus

Thank you Whitehawk!!!  I will try to do what you said.

I was so determined last night that I didn't go to sleep until 4am.  After a lot of energy work I managed to get into hypnagogic state.  Then my etheric head and upper body started rising, I felt presence - someone was helping me....I thought this is it, my helper is here and I'm going to project.... c'mon get up! get up! But my head was so heavy I couldn't hold it any longer and my heart was beating faster so lied back down and woke up in RTZ - very very frustrated.  What's happening? Why is it so heavy - I mean it's my "light" body, right? What's the best thing to do in that situation?

[sack and burn numerous churches, including Atronsa Maryam where the remains of several Emperors had been interred.[]

Actually the king of ethiopia converted to Islam during the time of the Prophet sws.

Which one?  Names and dates please.  Meantime, enjoy this reading from Wikipedia

When Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi became Sultan of Adal he united the Arab tribes of Somalia, as well as the Oromo and the Afar. Ahmad initiated a jihad against Dawit II, Emperor of Ethiopia in 1527. He was supported in his cause by several Falashas and Orthodox Ethiopians who opposed Dawit II's rule.


Course of the war
In 1529 the forces under Imam Ahmad, defeated a larger Ethiopian army at the Battle of Shimbra Kure. This victory came at heavy cost, but it solidified the Muslim morale, providing proof that they could stand up to the large Ethiopian army.

The victories that gave the followers of Imam Ahmad the upper hand came in 1531. The first was at Antukyah, where canon-fire at the start of the battle panicked the Ethiopian soldiers. The second was on 28 October at Amba Sel, when troops under the Imam not only defeated but dispersed the Ethiopian army and captured items of the Imperial regalia. These victories allowed the Muslims to enter the Ethiopian highlands, where they began to sack and burn numerous churches, including Atronsa Maryam where the remains of several Emperors had been interred.[1]

The country was looted by the Ahmad's forces, who destroyed several Christian monuments and oppressed the non-Muslim Amhara and Tigray.

Dawit II died in 1540 and his heir was captured by the Arabs; the Empress was unable to react as she was besieged in the capital. In 1543 the Ethiopian guerrillas were able to defeat the Muslims with the help of the Portuguese navy, which brought 400 musketeers and blocked supplies from the Ottoman Empire from reaching Adal. In 1543 Ahmad died in the Battle of Wayna Daga.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian-Adal_War
Also look up: http://www.ethiopiantreasures.toucansurf.com/pages/rel-war.htm

JC87 - I should have added that it is recommended you do VS in a safe environment, i.e. on your own at home.  Certainly don't do it in a public place or while operating machine/driving a car etc.  For your own safety. Ok?

hello, I don't want to get into current politics, but just want to say that I know for sure muslims invaded most African countries, converting people to islam by force.  Many ancient churches were burnt down and several people killed by this army in Ethiopia, which is the only country the area that hasn't been entirely converted to islam.  The muslim army marched through the country, coverting all of Somalia, some parts of Ethiopia, Sudan etc etc.

Look up your history, you will find it there.  This is fact.

That's Vibration State (VS).  VS could be perceived as slow swaying energy, or fast movement of energy up and down the body like an electric shock.  I sometimes feel my muscles and joints twitching during or after energy work.  VS helps with separation of the the consciousness from the body, and makes OBEs possible.  Practice VS as much as you can. Hope that helps.   

I can try.  What do you need help with?

rygoody, thanks for posting this.  It makes sense to me.  Apparently there is so much energy available to us that we don't even know about, let alone use.  Let's hope that more and more of us wake up and start using this energy around us for the betterment of humans, the planet, and our own spiritual evolution.

Venus

hiya

I am still on a course - I have one coming up this weekend.  I told one person at work who I thought was open to this kind of information.  When the others asked what course I'll be on, I said it's personal development - which is not a lie! 

One of the things my teachers said was that if you talk about this sort of stuff with people who are not at a level of understanding the ideas, you would get undesirable responses i.e. they laugh at, gossip about or ridicule you.  This is when you know that you have crossed their boundaries or comfort zones.  So it really is a matter of respecting other people's boundaries. 

When I was on a course, my vibration increased, felt so much lighter, but was unable to project right there and then because I was in unfamiliar place with new people etc.  But all the energy exercises I did all day long paid off big time, because the next morning at home, I had an amazing OBE.  I've had another one since then, but it's becoming much harder these days.  I am now very much looking forward to going for my weekend course and I know for sure it will be followed by another OBE just as last time!  Can't wait.

If there's a course available near you, I would very much recommend you to take it.  If you're still looking, then I would recommend the International Academy of Consciousness (www.iacworld.org)

Best wishes
Venus

hi Kiki, welcome.  I too used to 'fly' a few years back but thought it was just a vivid recurring dream and nothing else.  Turns out I was out of my body!  What a pleasant surprise, eh?

Happy flying!

Thanks for the warm welcome!!

Hi Zorgblar

Your second question - when you're out of the body, not only can you see behind the wall, but walk or fly through it.  The consciousness is in a different dimension and is not limited by time, space and the 3D world.

Venus

Hi Zante, thank you - that makes a lot of sense.  I find it amazing that the more I learn, the more I'm aware that there's so much more I don't know about! 

My teachers tell me that this planet is teeming with consciousnesses - there are spirits of all kinds around us.  Apparently we all share the same space, but in different dimensions.  That's why it's important to cleanse your home, spreading your energy around and therefore creating a bigger impenetrable 'aura'.  So you might want to do that.

Best wishes
Venus
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