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Today i got to REM and when i did i couldnt feel anything but my eyes and my hands and feet really it was the first time ive come even close to this, but i couldnt concentrate because i was wigging out i guess.  What do i do while REM is taking place? try to project? or how long until vibrations after REM? im confused..... o and all i saw while rem was white and shadowy monster guys it was so scary i had to open my eyes and it went away.  but for about 2 hours after i was so hyper like i had 2000 punds of extra energy... :sigh:

Go to Robert Burces articles and read the one with something about swords in the title. He was truly knighted, a ceremony and all, but others just have to ask for their sword. No big deal, it seems any type of ceremony makes your sword and purpose a special one. Like the quest you are on or Robert Bruces ceremony.  I just want to project...[^] argggggggggggggg []

I think that using these drugs just to AP is like cheating and I would never.  Just a thought.

I for one am driven one the idea that I will get my sword.  But I need to project first...

lol

Personally i think one of 2 things

1) 666 is the numerical name for a philosipher and the church put that in there to drive people away from his teachings... (so ive heard)

2) our government will put chips in us simple as that and bush says he wants to! i mean anyone can see that everything in the bible about the apocolyse(sp) is right on the way we can see it coming right over the horizon... but the average person is way too blinded by the gov. too see it.

Spike,

It's great to hear your mom is doing so good.  But I'll still pray for her bacause you can't let a good thing go to waist ey?

Yeah i'm 16 and have been trying for about 1 week.  NOTHING. I'll keep at it......

WELLLLLLLL

Yes I have read almost all of AD at leaast all of the first 1/2 about the training and acctual projection, i guess i got to ahead of myself... but how long will it take? how long have you been working at it?

I have mastered Deep relaxation, i am almost ceratin on that.... The calming the mind is like i'd say 1/4 i can hold a perfectly clear mind for about 5 or so seconds wich is a looong time by what ive heard done and i have no idea what the trance state is and how i will know if ive entered it!! i think i might have... but i cant tell..... whats a good sign....

i really would like someone to IM me.... so i can acctually chat with them... anyone!!! if youre learning we can learn togeather and tech each other! if you are experienced! GOOD tutor me! lol im soooooooooooo frustrated!

Exactly.