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My wife catches me in a bit of a trance sometimes staring at trees, for some reason my mind often blanks when I look at them. Maybe I should bring some awareness to those situations.

Perhaps you're speaking their very slow language and you're just between words. 

A big thank you to @sac_boy for sharing this. I missed this entirely.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12302423/EXCLUSIVE-Russian-researcher-claims-implanted-chip-brain-control-dreams.html

So Raduga, who I already thought was a nut job doubled down apparently by trying to do his own brain surgery.  Omg this is horrible almost beyond belief.

The methods he shares in his book are solid - he did not create any of them though, he only shares what he found has worked.

Please only stick to the methods he shares.  He, personally, is a sick puppy.  Damn.

I will have to try this out, my eyelids often need a bit of effort to stay shut, and a blindfold might help me let go of that. Thanks!

-Donut

A blindfold is a great option, but before spending the money, just try stretching your eyes out first.  Circle them all around a few times, close them tightly squeezing them shut, then open and repeat this whole thing a few times.  That should help a bit. 

I THOUGHT I had the Mindfold mask, but it's not... the one I have is called the Manta Mask. It has moveable eye pockets which is nice to be able to adjust to your own face size and eye placement.  Although, I also hear the Mindfold is really good too, just never used it myself.

Hello All,

  I have been lurking this BBS for a couple of years now, and decided it's probably time for me to actually interact with this community instead of just being that weird dude in the corner.
  I am usually here to look for tips on astral projection, I can't offer any insight on that front since I have no conscious experiences yet.

  I have, however, had much growth with meditation, so if you're looking for a fun exercise, here it is! I am probably not the first to think of it, but I haven't found it anywhere and feel like I should share.

I'll skip ahead a bit - this is after reading the rest of your post.  You're gonna have your own experiences very soon.  I have no doubt of that. 

Donut's Meditation Exercise V1.0:

Step 1: Assume the position.

  Sit in any way you find comfortable. "I know how to do that", you may be thinking, but hear me out. Try sitting in such a way that if you were to relax every muscle in your body, your head will not fall over, and your body won't lean forward.
  The deeper your meditation, the more any neck/back strain is going to stand out as a roadblock.
  Have you ever seen people balance chairs on one leg? You can find balance for any system, including your head. Keeping your head effortlessly balanced on your neck helps your brain remember it's not time for a nap!

Step 2: Breathe in.

  ...Did you do it? Great! Here's the exercise: Prove it.
  How do you know you took a breath? Explore every sensation that leads you to believe you are breathing.
  Is a sound made? Try to locate the source of that sound, with your mind's eye.
  Do you feel a pressure change? Try to find any sensation of low pressure, especially within your nasal passages, it's there somewhere (unless you're a mouthbreather like I need to be sometimes).
  Do you feel a temperature change? Feel around for any sensation of cooling or heating action within.
  Is the air dry? How do you know that?
  Do you feel your diaphragm move, how it puts pressure on your abdominal organs?
  Can you sense the arrival of oxygen, how it affects your consciousness? (you can sense this, I promise)
  Keep looking, there are myriad ways your body lets itself know it has indeed taken a breath (it generally likes to do the whole breathing thing).

Step 3: Breathe out.

  Do the above analysis but try breathing out instead this time.

This describes it PERFECTLY.  I've, literally, never read a more concise and descriptive way of putting it which makes it perfectly clear what the goal is.  Beautiful. 

And that's it, rinse and repeat! Unless you have really big lungs or a really fast brain, you will probably have to breathe multiple times in order to really analyze the breathing process as a whole. This is good and is actually a great survival tip (it is not recommended to stop breathing after your practice).
  Anyway, final tip for this is to try and get away from labels, really experience the sensations your body gives you as raw data, instead of marking a mental checklist (i.e. "Yep, that's temperature change"). You may just discover a sensation you cannot put words to. Happy meditating!

-Donut
 

You have an extremely good grasp on the Intent required to project.  You'll be successful in no time! 

And welcome to the Astral Pulse.
I look forward to your future posts.

Actually, I believe that also. We are already all that is at the core but we have all these layers or filters in place to separate us from our "I Am" or greater consciousness to play this "Earth game."

So, in theory, we should be able to in certain situations when our filters are down, (near death, OBE, some drug trips,) be able to access that info and our past lives as well, etc.

Exactly!  That's my explanation for things like knowing what you possibly could not know.  Some people have more direct "natural" access to that information than others - we call them psychics.

It also explains things like how when we project into environments which we haven't experienced directly ourselves and yet still see and know things about that place which are accurate - because someone, somewhere has been there or is there right now experiencing it.  It becomes part of consciousness. 

But, yeah, who knows any of this for certain. I do know people's brains can't learn stuff magically that they did not know before. So something is going on while they are near death.

I do have a theory on that... and it's why and how "psychics" work.  Basically, since we're all FROM consciousness, we each have direct access to all that consciousness "knows".  We should, theoretically, be able to tap into that (knowingly or unknowingly) to learn things.  In this case, the stuff people couldn't know (like what's going on in a surgical room) is known to the people in the room and you pick up on that through consciousness.

I dunno, I'm kinda just throwing crap at a wall and seeing what sticks here.  HAHA 

Guess it's my day to make some posts. Lol. I hope they are helpful?

Anyway, I got thinking, my twenty  ......  expand on this post if I think of anything important that I forgot.

I'll take a new posts break for a while now. : )

That was fascinating!  And actually further reinforces the concepts which Monroe shared about what he felt happens after one's physical body ceases to function here.  By Monroe's own words, he wasn't religious in the slightest as he wasn't raised that way. 

I still haven't reconciled the idea though that we still have these experiences because we're still, in some way, still connected to our physical bodies here in this reality.  They haven't FULLY died here yet and that might be an important part.  It's "NEAR" death... not "PERMANENTLY" died.

I make this distinction to a lot of people and they freak out saying that, "The doctors said they died!"... but then they don't realize that we humans actually have ZERO idea when death is permanent and non-recoverable.  So meh. 

Still, the simple fact that so many stories have so many similarities between them CANNOT be a coincidence. 

Some people come here to the Pulse to challenge us to "prove it" to them. They don't realize that that is a lost cause. Why? Because it only matters what we believe and are shown to be true. I am not going to attempt to change anyone's mind on this. I will teach and help a person that is serious to get there though. They can achieve the success they are looking for. but it will take a lot of practice and patience to finally persevere. Unless of course they only want a "sneak peek" of what could be. I think during our lives everyone gets a "sneak peek", behind the veil. Many will dismiss it as a "hallucination or just a Dream". Some will pursue further knowledge on the subject. They will find though that this is not a subject that is easily spoken of, without some form of ridicule.

Precisely.  I'm always puzzled by those people, but then they are usually materialists who don't realize that you cannot have another person's experience. 

Xanth, That's great advice and I will add the deepening more so concept to my routine. I mean I'm sort of doing what you said by focusing on the black void in front of my eyes and ignoring my body/thoughts, but perhaps not as deep as I should.

It might even be that the Noticing Exercise isn't a focus which works for you. Experiment with different ones and see what is easier for your to hold.  👍

[this is really the key to the entire process]

This is in addition to the wonderful advice given above!

You need to find a focus which really works for you.  This is the unique, personal part of learning to project.

Realize that the focus you choose to use, regardless what it actually is, is a non-physical point.  However, it's a non-physical point which BEGINS physically - it begins where you are, this physical reality.  Again, it can be anything.  A sound, a feeling (like your third eye), a visualization, etc... they're all non-physical points but they begin here in the physical.

The idea is to place your awareness, latch it, onto that point of focus.  Then, as you begin to meditate on that focus, you're using it as a point to push away this physical reality.  If that makes sense.  As you DEEPEN your awareness towards that focus, it's slowly shifting to the non-physical.  The more you deepen your awareness towards your focus, the further away from the physical that point is becomes and the closer to the non-physical that point is.

As you continue to deepen your awareness, you're ignoring the physical more and more and more (this is really the key to the entire process) until the projection reflex triggers and you, yourself, will shift.  This shift might be a smooth transition from "here" to "there" with no break in your consciousness - I've experienced it as my visual field shifting to black, feeling a sense of movement then the visual field coming back into view.  OR the shift might not be that smooth at all, with you blinking out and then after a short time blinking back in and you're non-physical at that point.

But what you're definitely missing is that deepening part - that "key to the entire process" part.  It's like a loop of sorts you need to get yourself into.  Think of it as a step by step process.  Your awareness is firmly locked onto your focus, for example, say you're using The Rope Method - you visualize your rope and begin to climb it, maybe your step by step process is to loop it with each hand you take on the rope.  Each time you grab that rope, you're deepening your awareness into that act by perhaps engaging more of your physical senses onto the rope.  DEEPEN, DEEPEN, DEEPEN...

All aboooooard   (vibrations yelling)

It was so strange.  It's been so long.  I wonder why now?  Oh well.

As you said!  Time to enjoy! 

Ok, it's no secret I haven't actively consciously projected in a while.  It's been a good ten years or so.

I decided to give it a try again this morning.

Within a few minutes I started experiencing... the vibrations?!

When I was practicing before I hardly ever experienced them.  So strange.

Almost like I've been reset or something. 

I have read these 4 books by Moen and loved them!  I would also give them 5 stars!  If there are 5 books in the series than I must be missing one of them.  Will need to investigate.

I've been looking for new books to read and I had completely forgotten about Mr Moen!

I'm gonna have to get those soon.

Thanks!

https://sites.libsyn.com/416576/an-archived-conversation-with-robert-a-monroe-author-and-founder-of-the-monroe-institute-originally-recorded-in-1994

Yes, yes, I do seem to be on a Monroe kick lately.  haha
I stumbled upon this podcast today looking for new books to read.

I'm sure some of you have heard this one, but I haven't and it's very good. I highly suggest a listen!
It's only an hour. 

*scratches like crazy*

Now I'm itchy... thanks.    

Thanks you all for some truly deep and profound thoughts on these topics with these recent posts. I had to read them more than once.

We sometimes worry too much that we're derailing a specific, preconceived topic of a thread... but sometimes when you organically allow a thread to go where ever it needs to, you are gently surprised. 

I think that goes to what Adyashanti says about "allowing everything to be as it is". 

So no worries!  Contribute whatever you feel is needed. 

I have experienced time after time in the physical and non-physical that change of my beliefs and perception change my experiences in regards of feeling free or feeling ..... situations will dissolve automatically and will be replaced by new situations that will correspond to your new beliefs.

LB... all I have to say to that post is WHOA!

That really was a mind-blowing passage you wrote. 
I'm gonna have to re-read that a few times to fully understand it.

[Your personal concept-ulary...]

It's been an age since I read Ultimate Journeys, this makes me want to re-read it. I vaguely remember a lot of instances where I thought "well, I haven't run into anything like that..."

Re-reading that book has awakened my original desire for projecting, which was dwindling for a long while there.

I think belief is one part of a kind of 'mental vocabulary', along with all your personal experiences and even anything you might have imagined in your lifetime. The astral environment describes itself through this vocabulary. This vocabulary can reshape your perception of what might be the same underlying phenomenon. Maybe there simply is no single accurate perception of some things out there, and the only way a non-physical environment can present itself is through this mental vocabulary. Your personal concept-ulary...

Concept-ulary!  I like that. 

I've always said that what you experience while projecting is a subjective experience of an objective nature.  I *THINK* that's what you're trying to say.  Meaning that what you experience is objective, but HOW you experience is will vary based upon your own personal life experiences - using your own concepts as a vocabulary.  A concept-ulary!  haha nice.   I'm gonna steal that I think. 

I recall one really profound example from a video where Monroe talks about a guide showing him a vast field of flowers, and in the center of every flower was a face, and each face represented a life he had lived. I was blown away when I heard him describe this, because he was describing something I'd seen myself, but clearly through a different presentation layer. In my own experience these faces were small black line drawings against a sea of warm orange light in some pure mental zone. The icons were arranged in a kind of sunflower seed spiral that stretched off in every direction. The space didn't feel like normal 3D space at all, as I was both surrounded by and far above these icons at the same time, and I could zoom into any one of them. Zooming into a neighbouring icon was how I accessed a past life memory for the first time. (My other memory of that place was the awesome peace and silence after watching my own 'icon' shrink and fade as I first emerged into that mental zone. I've been chasing that same feeling for a long time.)

Seeing Robert Monroe speak about the same thing halfway through a relatively obscure video showed me that we really are exploring the same underlying territory, but that there may be no single 'true' version of it, no single accurate perception. Perhaps this physical world and human life is a kind of respite from that, a place to learn a common library of concepts.

I believe that goes to what @Lumaza was saying above when he said "It was something that you learn or experience for yourself (via your NPR adventures/experiences) that confirms your belief to be true."

Indeed. It changes your total perspective on what you used to think it was all about. It does often make you feel like you are on the "outside looking in" though. You don't seem to get caught up in all of the chaos and emotions. You are still watching it though. It's like you have become a professional "Observer". 

And honestly, that's probably one of the better ways to go through life - be the "observer". 
Don't get too emotionally caught up in the BS which happens. 

EscapeVelocity and I had this same conversation a few weeks ago. The most important word that we found in our conversation that related to beliefs was "confirmation" of said believe. That is what truly made it "real". Many beliefs are taught to us. It's only when we find "confirmation" of that belief, that we are "all-in" on it.

We really do see that in most, if not ALL of the major religions out there.  Personally, I don't buy into organized religion... you'll never find answers in other people's beliefs.  You might find a temporary answer which helps "right now", but in the long run, it's most likely something you'll need to shed in order for further growth to happen. 

So maybe, it really is the journey and not the destination which is important?   

When I first began to have OBEs, I sought out all those different levels/NPRs that Robert Monroe did. I was looking for the comatose/zombie land, the belief system territories, etc.. All the things I had read up on. Indirectly I found some of them, but that was only when I wasn't looking for them anymore.

I'm curious, did you end up finding that comatose/zombie land? 

But and this is a big but, what I have found and been taught defies any beliefs I ever had and because of that, it has created new beliefs. Case in point, I always thought that all people could be healed.

I haven't done any healing, but my understanding has always been that a person can be healed if they, ultimately, want to be healed.  Otherwise, you're just wasting your energy.  I dunno. 

For example, I have experienced and have heard from other projectors that if we end up in a place established by a large community of NP beings, that place has to look certain way and things can be changed only by mutual agreement of all occupants.

Sorry, I read this and immediately thought... "aren't you describing HERE?" - this reality, or the functionality of how HERE comes to be in the manner which it is? 

I need to read the rest of your post...

I'm gonna go out of order here for a minute.

Sorry, I branched off a little from the original topic 

Not one bit.    You're actually very much on topic.

At the end, everyone is exactly where they need to be at the present moment and it is strictly related to learning needs.

The last couple years, I've been a bit lost on my path - but I've been feeling the nagging need to re-read Monroe's third book.  So much has happened in this world recently which finally gave me not just the time, but the desire and determination to actually read it again.  I feel like I've been led to this point.

Everything from the Astral Pulse almost completely falling apart to it now being renewed and shiny again... to finding certain threads here which have been here for several year now, but have finally entered my realm of understanding... to finally reading this book.  The first two reads, I really didn't understand most of it, but now I'm getting such feelings of... well, I cannot even describe it right now, just can't find the words yet.

Therefore, who each of us THINK we are is just the character portion and based on that perception of us our environment is created. Our oversoul (larger being) contains all knowledge. IF we understand that, our fragmented character can draw from it and experience another level of physical and NP experiences.

This actually resonates beautifully with what I was just reading in Monroe's book.  I just got through Chapter 15, where he finds his "basic" and the "emitter" - the generator of the hologram which is this universe.

I was in a mediaeval looking town once with a castle and a courtyard, people living there, going about their business, they have chosen to create such environment in the NP for whatever reason and have created the environment to look certain way. I tried to change something on the castle architecture an immediately found myself in a field outside of the town. I was kicked out of the town by some energy restrictions I guess.

haha you went against the consensus.  For some reason, the result of what happened to you there - feels wrong to me. 

I may not have my "basic", but I feel I'm slowly getting to the concept of figuring out the direction.

I stopped projecting for a very VERY long time.  Yeah, I've had spontaneous projections now and then, but for the most part, I STOPPED actively projecting.  Now I feel the desire... the NEED... the start again.  All being led to this point. 

My wife and I took up scuba diving the last couple year and I REALLY enjoy it.  I'm thinking it has to do with the floating and weightlessness of the experience.  I need to use that I think.

I need some more time with this - thoughts and feelings are flowing faster than my fingers can type.  LoL

HAHA Now I think *I'VE* taken the thread off the rails. 

So I'm currently re-reading Robert Monroe's third (and final) book, "Ultimate Journeys" for a third time.
Each time I read it, I gain a bit more understanding because I understand more due to having a bit more knowledge.

But my question right now is... belief plays a big part in our non-physical travels, and I'm left sitting here wondering if *EVERYTHING* Robert Monroe experienced in his non-physical adventures only happened due to his own beliefs? 

I personally don't believe so, but I figured I'd toss that question out there to, maybe, prompt some discussion on the topic of projections and our beliefs on the subject. 

This isn't limited to just Monroe's body of work. 

Laying down in my favorite sleeping position, because I want the last thoughts of being somewhere else to be in my mind when I drift off. I have tried doing visualization during the day or longer before falling asleep and it does not work. For me this technique has to merge with falling asleep without interruptions of waking up or moving before the first phase of deep sleep. The visualization has to overlap by a bit with going into Delta. But to prevent falling asleep too quickly before you have a chance to visualize for at least 10 min I would suggest to go to bed 30 min before you get too sleepy. TV should not be on, phone should be put away, etc. NO disruptions between the ending of the technique and falling asleep.

Hmmm... I may need a new room to sleep in, my wife *LOVES* to read on her phone for a good half hour to an hour lying in bed.  *sigh* 

Thank you LB.

I think I'll give this a shot over the next little while!

I just wanted to provide an additional input from my own experiences. I am most successful when I do any visualization/motion techniques right as I am falling asleep at night, for at least 10 min.

I'm curious, when you're doing your visualization/motion techniques are you lying down or sitting up?

Wow, I go away on vacation for a month and come back to a complete surprise
Very happy things worked out. If something is stuck, it will be shaken to get unstuck and force changes. This applies to anything in life. I can see how this scary at first but necessary change needed to occur for the Pulse. Forcing closure, but finding a solution in the end. I see a lot more discussions and new members taking interest. I am very happy

Welcome back!  Hope you had a good time!

YES!!  In the end, everything worked out great!  The site has never run so smoothly.  ALL of the features work and we have some extra ones too!

You can actually link YouTube videos directly into chat now. 

Hit the YouTube button and fill out the field with the web url then hit enter.  It'll do this:

In recent memory, the only strange voice I've heard was while I was meditating at lunch one day about ten years ago.  I was sitting at my desk and my goal for that particular session was to try and contact Frank Kepple.  Well, a bit into the meditation I heard, clear as day, as if the person was standing right next to me, someone say, "Who is this?!"

It actually surprised the hell out of me.  I couldn't proceed with answering or anything because my desk phone started ringing and ended the experience, but it was definitely a voice clear as day.  I might have made contact with Frank.

But I think this isn't what you're referring to.

What you're referring to kind of sounds more like your higher self or something.  Someone willing to help guide you, even if that guidance led you to an uncomfortable situation.  It sounds like a parent who allows this kid to play with the light socket and fork just so they know not to do that again.