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It might be fake, but if not fake its a pretty good video of a ghost moving stuff around in the home of a British family:

There's a video at the bottom of the page:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370715/Coventry-family-paranormal-experts-capturing-ghost-home-video.html

Before I had my OBE I'd probably terrified to death of this, but now I think its just some deceased person hovering around RTZ not knowing where to go or maybe not even knowing he/she is dead.  Of course it could also be some dead guy playing pranks 

A spooked family have called in a real-life 'ghostbuster' - after claiming to have captured on video a poltergeist moving a chair across a bedroom. 

Lisa Manning and her children Ellie, 11, and Jaydon, six, have fled their house in terror several times because of bizarre goings-on.

They include pots and pans being thrown around the kitchen, window blinds moving up and down by themselves, lights being switched on and off and drawers being opened

While cynics might scoff and suggest the chair could have been moved by a length of strategically placed fishing line, Miss Manning is adamant the footage proves a ghost exists.

She said she feels like she is 'living in a scary movie'.

Miss Manning, who lives with her partner Anthony, 25, in the house, added: 'One medium came in and said our house is a portal, a kind of bus stop for spirits, which they use to pass into our world.

'I set up the video camera because I wanted to prove the ghost exists.

'I couldn't believe it when I played the tape back, it sent chills up my spine.

'We called our landlords and they sent in a priest who blessed the house but said himself that we shouldn't live here, we definitely shouldn't stay. 

'He gave us all small crucifixes which we carry at all times in the house.

'The problem is because we can't see it, we don't know where it's going to be or what it's going to do.

'This is a horror house. It's like living in a scary movie. The worst thing about it is, even I can't believe what's happening myself.'

Ha ha!  Read my sig.

I did, and I was making a self-deprecating joke btw.

Unless of course you're a Hermaphrodite, in which case I digress 

You know we can read the fine print.

They say the font one uses reflects on their penis size  

I still think the best rehab is to never start with drugs in the first place.  I was offered countless times cocaine at parties when I first arrived on the scene in Toronto during late 80's and early 90's.  I never wanted to try it even once, because I figured if I didnt know what it felt like I would never miss it.

A "friend" of mine wasnt so lucky, he owned a popular nightclub downtown and he thought he could control it.  Last time I heard he was in/out of rehabs and almost lost his business.  He was also a total jerk half the time, moodswings like crazy, make even the slightest wrong comment and he would snap.

No thanks, I'll stick to plain old beer when I'm at parties (and the occasional vodka sprite also)  

To me AP and LD is just a hobby and nothing more 

Han another very short lucid dream again last night.  I saw a landscape and then I thought about projecting into that landscape, and before I could even complete my thought I was part of the landscape.

Didnt last very long though, it was over in 5 seconds 

So why should I speculate about the possibility that my personality/consciousness will continue after my body is dead when I have a perfectly good life that needs to be lived now?

I thought discussing the after-life was kinda the point of this whole forum 

Then, as he realized what happened, the usual process for the recently deceased would begin....etc.

Which is what exactly??

Mike Starr (Alice in Chains bass player and Celeb Rehab participant) died from an OD:

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/09/mike-starr-mixing-drugs-roomate-methadone-anxiety-medication/

Just curious, but what to everyone's best knowledge will happen to him in the afterlife??  Will he attend some astral rehab clinic, or will he continue using heroin??  Obviously nobody knows for sure, but whats your best guess??

A smart man once said that you learn more when you remain open, but skeptical. 

Yup, the mind is like a parachute, it only works when open.

Its too bad most scientists cant wrap their silly little minds around that concept

I'm going to this store tomorrow to buy 3 quartz crystals to start off with: http://www.therockstore.ca

Sounds like a similar OBE I had.  I wouldnt call it projection because you didnt go into astral, you stayed in RTZ

Sylvie Browne on the after-life: http://www.popeater.com/2011/02/23/sylvia-browne-afterlives-rich-famous-interview/

I used to think she was a fraud, but now I wonder if some of what she says is true

With science like that, I think it's time we take our children out of schools 

This is why I laugh at most of these "studies".

Today Vitamin A prevents cancer, tomorrow it causes cancer and next week they'll have another study that says it prevents cancer again

[OBSERVING IMAGES]

In case you guys were wondering, I used the 2nd method Raduga mentions in his book.  

I copied it below:

OBSERVING IMAGES

Immediately after waking from sleep, remain motionless,
eyes closed. Observe the blank space behind the eyes for 3 to 5
seconds and try to locate recognizable pictures, images, or
symbols. If nothing appears during this exercise, the technique
should be substituted. If something appears, continue to passively
observe the images. Meanwhile, the images will become
increasingly realistic, literally enveloping the practitioner.

Do not aggressively examine the details of the image, or it will vanish or
change. The image should be experienced as a panorama, taking
everything in. Observe the images as long as the quality and
realism increases. Doing so yields two possible results: the
practitioner becomes part of the surroundings, and has achieved
the phase, or the image becomes borderline or absolutely realistic,
and separation from the physical body is possible

Congratulations! By the way, you projected to a metaphysical replica of your abode. This is typical of 2nd phase OOBEs. The environment has nothing to do with the physical realm perception. It is a world made of thought. Even space there is thought-conceived, can be changed and has nothing to do with space or distance in the waking life realm.

So how do I know the next time I project somewhere if its a real place, or not something I made up in my own mind??!!

That's great, I envy you!

I think your sub-conscious created it.  

Thats the part that bothered me, I wanted to fly around the universe and visit actual real places, not some stupid stuff I created in my own mind.

But thank you Timandra, you totally ruined that now    

JK

I had 2 very short lucid dreams last night.  They didnt last much longer than a few minutes.
Only weird thing is I live in a condo with a pool, but I projected towards a swimming pool that did not at all look like the pool we have downstairs.

So that doesnt make sense at all. I have to wonder who's pool I projected to 

I was flying quite nicely though, just zooming around in the air 

http://vimeo.com/1989597

I've made mention of this before, but I'll mention it again... if Thomas Campbell's TOE is correct, then science has more wrong with it than anyone even thought possible!

I believe that too.  Dont get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with science so long as its good science.  But in an ever evolving universe its quite possible that science itself evolves with it.  And if thats the case we can never know it all because evolution is infinite.

Having said that I'm not against science at all, I'm only against science thats narrow-minded in its thinking

The problem with many scientists is they go into an experiment like this with basically their inside-the-box, closed minds already made up that its not real.  They come from universities where like-minded profs scoff at OBE's, afterlife, AP...etc because science so far hasnt been able to prove it.

For them no scientific proof = its all baloney.  Which is narrow-minded, stupid thinking IMO

I would even argue is our present physical life for real??!  I can see, smell, hear touch...etc.  But how do I prove that it is real?! 
You cant, right?!  You can only say it feels and appears real to me

What do you believe Fresco?

Until I project more I cant really say for sure.  However, I lean towards OBE and AP being real, as opposed to a product of our imagination.  
So in that respect I think the article is wrong, and a typical reaction to a phenomenon science cant really explain, so they come up with the usual "its all in your head" excuse.

Doctors gave the same explanation when CFIDS and Morgellon diseases first appeared, their explanation was always "its all just in your head, try to be more positive".  But now they finally had to acknowledge these are real diseases and not product of imagination

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8327304/AAAS-Out-of-body-experiences-are-just-the-product-of-a-confused-mind.html

Throughout history people have described how they have floated from their bodies and looked back at themselves, often when close to death or on the operating table.

The accounts have been so vivid that they are often cited as proof of the existence of the soul or Heaven.

But scientists now claim they have dispelled this myth by artificially creating an out-of-body experience using computers and cameras.

They believe the feeling of detachment occurs when the brain becomes confused by conflict between the senses - and is not proof of any "spiritual dimension" to existence.

Professor Olaf Blanke and his team at University of Geneva said they had "immersed" volunteers into the body of an avatar - a computer generated version of themselves.

Volunteers were asked to wear virtual reality goggles and then stand in front of a camera.

The subjects saw the cameras view of their back on screens in the goggles, computer enhanced to create a 3D virtual version or avatar.

When their back was stroked with a pen so was the virtual avatar in front of them, making them think that the virtual body was in fact their own.

In this way people became confused about their real and the virtual self - even though they were effectively two metres apart from each other.

Prof Blanke, who presented his findings at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) conference in Washington, said: "Through vision and touch they lost themselves.

"They start thinking that the avatar is their own body. We created a partial out-of-body experience.

"We were able to dissociate touch and vision and make people think that their body was two metres in front of them."

He said by inducing the out-of-body experience it proved it was more like a brain malfunction when sight, touch and balance become confused.

Dr Blanke said: "Instead of it being a spiritual thing, it is the brain being confused. Why do we think that it is spiritual when we don't think a phantom limb when one is lost is an example of the paranormal."

To take the research further they used sensors connected to the skull to find the areas of the brain most involved in deciding where it belongs.

These were found to be temporo-parietal and frontal regions - parts at the front and right side of the brain responsible for integrating touch and vision.

If these were damaged or somehow short-circuited it could account for the feeling of floating above your body often associated with an out-of-body experiences.

Aside from explaining out-of-body experiences, the work could have more commercial applications, said the researcher.

The technique could be used to make computer games even more exciting or projecting people into robot soldiers or surgeons.

They could even be used to treat eating disorders linked with a flawed body image, such as anorexia.

Out-of-body experiences most often occur during sleep or waking as well as through drug use, trauma and under anaesthetic.

They effect around one in 10 of the population

I'm not completely sure but I think Chopra is into AP also