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If nothing happens in 2012 what would you do? This question is mainly for the hardcore belivers of the golden age but anyone can join in ^_^

For me personally I'd start learning to play dungeons and dragons and magic the gathering so I can join clubs full of geeks and become a great master of rpg games. I also like to find a nice belief (prolly gnosic or jedi) and just live in my own little fantasy world till my time is over.

Np ^.^ that site has alot of the lost text written by the Essenes which is a shame cause it has good storys and it goes well with the bible new testement like for sample a prophecy of Jesus to suffer the sins of humanity:
This was written in 300BC

Chapter XIV - The earliest prophesy of the coming of Christ.

1 Then Adam said to God: "O Lord, take You my soul, and let me not see this gloom any more; or remove me to some place where there is no darkness." 2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the garden, into the house of light you long for, in which there is no darkness*. I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of heaven." 3 Again said God to Adam, "All this misery that you have been made to take on yourself because of your transgression, will not free you from the hand of Satan, and will not save you. 4 But I will. When I shall come down from heaven, and shall become flesh of your descendants, and take on Myself the infirmity from which you suffer, then the darkness that covered you in this cave shall cover Me in the grave, when I am in the flesh of your descendants. 5 And I, who am without years, shall be subject to the reckoning of years, of times, of months, and of days, and I shall be reckoned as one of the sons of men, in order to save you." 6 And God ceased to commune with Adam. * Reference: John 12:46

Chapter XV - Adam and Eve grieve over the suffering of God to save them from their sins.

1 Then Adam and Eve cried and sorrowed by reason of God's word to them, that they should not return to the garden until the fulfillment of the days decreed on them; but mostly because God had told them that He should suffer for their salvation."

http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

If only the bible was 100%  Essenes our culture would prolly be a peaceful one. 

A group of the Essenes who wrote the Dead sea scrolls wrote a book called "The Essenes book of Revelation" dating back 150 BCE and 70 BC and I was looking at the bible revelation and the Essenes verson and you can clearly see the bible copied and changed the writings of the Essenes.

Essenes verson:
"There appeared a great wonder in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,
And upon her head a crown of seven stars.
And I knew she was the source of running streams
And the mother of the forests."

Bible verson:
"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" (Revelation 12:1 KJV)

Notised how many stars were changed from 7 to 12? 


Essenes verson:
"But, I saw not what befell them, for my vision changed,
And I saw a new Heaven and a new Earth;
For the first Heaven and the first Earth had passed away;
And there was no more sea.
And I saw the holy city of the brotherhood
Coming down from God out of Heaven,
Prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying:
"Lo, the mountain of the Lord's house 
Is established in the top of the mountains 
And is exalted above the hills; 
And all people shall flow to it. 
Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, 
To the house of God; 
And he will teach us of his ways, 
And we will walk in his paths: 
For out of the Holy Brotherhood shall go forth the Law. 
Behold, the Tabernacle of God is with men, 
And he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, 
And God himself will be with them, and be their God.'
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
And there shall be no more death,
Neither sorrow, nor crying,
Neither shall there be any more pain:
For the former things have all passed away.
Those who made war shall beat their swords into ploughshares,
And their spears into pruning hooks:
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
Neither shall they learn war anymore:
For the former things have passed away.

And he spoke again: "Behold I make all things new.
I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.
I will give to him that thirsts at the Fountain of the Water of Life freely.
He who overcomes shall inherit all things,
And I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
But the fearful, and the unbelieving,
And the abominable, and murderers, and all liars,
Shall dig their own pit which burns with fire and brimstone."

Bible verson:
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:1-6, 8 KJV)

They added more things in the bible verson Like sorcerers and whoremongers and idolaters plus the second death. The writer of the Essence is unknown but the bible verson calls himself john. Another thing i notised was this verse: 

"And he who kills with the sword must be killed by the sword."

Look familiar?

"for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. (Matthew 26:52 NIV)

You can read the full verson of the Essence here:
http://reluctant-messenger.com/essene/revelation.htm

It's amazing when you look into diffent types of beliefs and cultures cause your start to see where ideas and storys comes from and they evolve over time. Only this time john made sure no one will write the  revelation again:

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:18, 19 KJV)

Thanks for Reading =D

Been working with manta: Om Mani Padme Hum latly and found it helps alot when images and thoughts enters the mind and focusing on the mantra just pushes them away as they popup. I'm looking at a new mantra that was
Giving by Samael Aun Weor which changed the "Ni" to "Si" and I can't find anything outside of the gnosticteachings.org that teaches this mantra. 
A quote from Samael Aun Weor:
"To be in that blessed state, or to observe thoughts without identifying with them, is something very difficult, but we have to start at least doing it when we close our eyes, in order to meditate, in order to contemplate God. There is a mantra which helps us activate that remembrance of God: 
OM MASI PADME HUM. This mantra activates the pineal gland and the heart together, in order to stay here and now, because we are always out of the state of awareness."

I searched the forms on the gnostic site about it and found this:

"The timeless mantra Om Masi Padme Yum was previously only given in the internal planes, until Samael Aun Weor began teaching it publicly. The letter S relates to the secret fire, which is awakened and worked with by those who have been initiated into the inner knowledge. This is why it was not taught publicly before, because in the past no one in the public knew how to work with the inner fire. If you go to any authentic lama in the internal worlds, they will teach you the mantra with the S."

Any thoughts on this? 

That is general spirituality- a New Age organization has a specific set of beliefs, mainly the belief in reincarnation and Ascended Masters- that we can all evolve and join them is one of their tenets.

where did they get the acended master concept from? Is it the same concept to what alot of ancient texts say about how humans were cast out and suffer in the unknown world of suffering and the only way to come back if they become godly etc?

Religion;
1:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2:
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

I guess in that sence the new age movement is like a religion but how is it worst? In my understanding of the new age stuff is they seek peace/love/spiritual pratice and to connect with the sorce or god etc. They don't convert people or scare people with distruction which Christains love doing and many other fearful religions out there. Now days there goal is to raise the consciousness and be one with everything "one is all and all is one".

It would be worst if people follow the new age groups without understanding what they got themselves into and have no experience's themselves which Jesus would call "blind faith" 1 blind man follows the other blind man and both fell down a hole.


(random off topic thought lol...)
Isn't it intresting when a child is born and the perents are religus and raise the child to follow there beliefs? I'd say that the child would be born blind  

 

So it's the same concept as "empty your mind" and "feel the force around you". Been trying to do that for awhile now but maby I need to do it longer like when you try to obe without no pre sleep.

How long does it take to get a connection and what is it like? Do you hear voices or is it like a "brainwave"? I'm trying to reach that state but I don't know what the signs are to know your doing it right etc. I seek Gnosis (knowledge) and guidence incase your wondering why I'm asking ^_^ 

Has anyone ever thought about the 3 day patten within the bible? Jonah was inside a fish for 3 days and in reailty it'd be dark inside that fish. Jesus got put on a cross at 3pm died at about 9pm after his cry out then 3 days later he comes back. Maby there's more storys in the bible that involes 3 days but theses are the ones I know of so far. There is an intresting evidence that theses storys were based on the sun and stars and I'm wondering, could this 3 day of darkness be the same as the storys in the bible and the writers were exspressing the events with storys? Bible is full of 12,s and 3's

BUT I am a new age follower, but I believe in Christianity
I actually have a goal to write a book, re translating the bibles metaphors to make the new age beliefs more valid..

to many people have done this and the hardcore christains won't listen and say that people are taking things out of context etc... There was a guy who is a christain and he went to extreme and wrote a book all based on Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth" book saying that Eckart is deceiving people and taking "verses" out of "context" in the bible etc. In this world it's almost impossable to have your own opions without some angry group destroying it and turn it into something evil..

I feel sorry for christains sometimes cause of there lack of Knowledge when it comes to spiritual things. They feel that cause people reject the bible they reject god... But infact alot of spiritual people use the bible and many other religus text to improve themselves and there connection with god better. 
There's 1 god and 1 reailty and every human have a diffent way of connecting to god ither it's in a group or personal but the path is still the same.. I just wish they can understand that god isn't the bible and the word is with god, the only way to know the word if you can be with god.. Hence there saying "repent and turn to god" lol that is what spiritual people already do!

Christains version of john chapt 1:

In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God. John 1:1)

Here's the real version

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1)

The word is with god.... Not the bible.

I found an intresting group which i'm amazed at how they see the bible. Even they know that you gotta meditate and silence the mind to be with god and learn his wisdom: http://www.hallvworthington.com/teacher.html

They call themselves "the Quakers".

Christains are there own worst enemy at times...





   

I wasn't joking at all o_o
I based my ideas on acient texts that talks about this stuff and the signs are showing up. it also means that the elite can take advanaged of this and add to the fual to cause fear and chaos. Depending what timeline they want to use, there are so many possabilitys how this will turn up but as the acient texts says through out history. Nothing bad will happen to the earth and it will stay forever. The only ones who put fear on "end of the world" crap are people who don't read there own books or learn diffent beliefs cultures -__-
there to busy listeing to what religus leaders say and belive it cause they must obey otherwise "god" will be angry cause they didn't "belive"

And that's the smoking gun! Cause here we have fools who have no wisdom and preach darkness from mouth to mouth and it spreads like a virus and look at us now... I find it funny how spiritual people see this as something great and spiritual and then you get theses fools who spread fear and pure darkness that you'd would wana kill yourself cause you don't want to suffer the things to come.

I kinda agree with you Ryan on the fear posts, iv read many topics on how people killed there own family and themselves cause of fear like global warming or 2012 end of the world etc iv been down this road to so I kinda understand why they did the things they did. Like I said in the comment above you:
"who would wana stay on earth if it's about to break?"

If anything does happen it'd only be smokes and mirrors to help with the epicness of the great plan by the elite and like the movie "knowing" who would wana stay on earth if it's about to break? Pretty cleaver plan if that does happen but we know the earth is giving birth and all the chaos is pose to happen. The comets are prolly just extra tools to make it look like it's the end of everything. Smokes and mirrors is all it is 

So many ways of looking at this lol
It reminds me of religions that are to proud and boasting themselves. They are also blasphemers: 

Blasphemy: The act of claiming the attributes or prerogatives of deity. 

And they idolized there bibles like pagans do with there's. 

Idolatry: Idolatry is usually defined as worship of any cult image, idea, or object, as opposed to the worship of a monotheistic God. Blind or excessive devotion to something such as a graven image or other human work.

They are lovers of themselves but that's mostly everyone on this planet unless they are awaken. But for theses groups the reason why they join theses enslavement beliefs is cause they don't wana die or burn somewhere.

They are false accusers in many ways.
They are the despisers of those that are good,

Lol I think you got the idea...

Matt chap 5 Jesus quotes from the old testement "9They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.')" this is so true and through out the gosples not once did Jesus follow the Jewish laws, infact he got the Jews ticked cause of it and got killed for it and yet christains and other religions follow there "holy" laws in there books... But that's my way of thinking lol ^^

Plus iv never seen them do the following:
Mark 16:17-18:
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

I would love to meet a real christain one day... Never met one before.



Anyway lol
I hope the 3 day darkness will come cause it'd be awaome and I can be riddick in googles running outside

Sounds like spirit science  it's ok, but to cultivate yourself into a belief systom like spirit science that someone else has reserched on could be wrong. I'm gona follow Bruce lee's concept and become like water and go where ever it leads me =D

Bible can not be trusted on it's own but there are some good info in there that can help as well as other religius text from round the world.

I go for diffent cultures and there beliefs etc Like the mayans, through out history people new how the skys work and they use the constellations to create a code within the storys in our religus texts. Pretty amazing when they all lead to the same thing. As for the date for the 3 day darkness thing I just found that info on a docmentory that was posted on this fourm somewhere, but the point is that this is part of what the ancients are telling us so like as long as were awere of theses signs they gave us, we can help others be awere of it too ^_^


Rev chapt 12 is worth looking at

Ryan will poop himselve if it does happen 

I hope something will happen soon cause there's way to Many people crying out for change and amazingly getting spiritual which is intresting. Kinda like what the old testement says where it talks about removing the vail (awakeing) unless it talks about the shift?but then again it says in the new testement that only a few (awaken ones?) will enter the narrow gates. I hate trying to solve theses puzzles cause everything makes sence now days lol...

Just done watching a gnostic program called, sex: the secret Gate to Eden. And it's really intresting and I can now see why some say the holy spirit is the sexual organ. You can blasphemy the father and the son but you can't with the holy spirit.

Incase anyone is intrested ^^ it's a good concept and it kinda rings true
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=7ru4s0TgXvc

@ noy
Where did you get that concept from o_O?

@ Stillwater 
I think the ancients were almost spot on on how the reailty works around them but say it's from the gods or they say it's from above and not from within.

@CFTraveler
I like your concept and it does make sence.  Samael Aun Weor followers belives the holy spirit is the sexual organs which is also an intresting concept. Father is the head, son is the heart and the holy spirit is the sexual organ. They have a strange intresting ways of looking at the bible.

@HiRes
The cosmos christ state ^^ totally be intrested to see how that works and how people react when there ego all the sudden dies and in a new state of consciousness. Just inmagin someone is about to kill someone and the cosmic Christ comes. or someone who's about to kill themselve and the cosmic Christ comes. I hope that concept will happen cause I don't agree with just "killing the bad people and save the good" everyone deserves a second chance no matter who they are. 
 

Ah so you think it a holy spirit in a phyical body waiting to be awaken in full Consciousness? That makes sence and then as we are in our present mode Sophia comes and fills us with her wisdom. Yes that makes more sence now =D

I'm trying to understand who this "holy spirit" guy is cause I thought it was Sophia but it's a male and he stays with you forever from what the bible is saying. Is he like a higherselve type person cause it says he's the Helper and the Comforter. And that's usely what the higherselve is plus you can channel them which is the same as this being giving you "ideas/brainwaves".

Oh I think I got it now but just to make sure, what do you guys think?

Holy spirit = personal higherselve

Sophia = spiritual wisdom from the heavens/dimentions

It looks right but the logic feels wrong... Cause the higherselve should comfort and guilde plus give wisdom and there won't be any reason to have poor Sophia....

Note: 
Just for the ones who don't know who Sophia is, she's the goddest of wisdom who Jesus spoke about in the new testement and her role is to give wisdom.

 Matthew 11:19 NIV
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' But wisdom (Sophia) is proved right by her actions."

Luke 7:35 NIV
But wisdom (Sophia) is proved right by all her children."

A couple of things-
First, why would the Mexican Gov. have any 'Mayan' secrets?  And, the actual Mayan elders have already spoken on the subject.

part of the "divine plan". Wouldn't this be a comfomation that something is def gona happen? Like alot of us know this already but for a goverment to come out and wana tell us "secrets" that they kept for 80 years kinda confirms everything we belive and reserched on. But of cause they like the fear verson of 2012 and not ours 

 "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]" Jesus (gnostic)

I wana know who the guy is that hitler called "superman" aparentlly from what hitler said "I met the new man and he's terrorfieing" (spelling) he def seemed scared of this "superman" guy. Could this guy be ruleling us or something? I would say hitler was a great exsplorer in his time and I wish we can learn on what he reserched and his beliefs in the unknown. But all we get is he was a christain who hated Jews and other people and started killing them all. Till you learn he was building ufo's and taking symbols from diffrnt cultures that represents diffrnt meaninga and stuff. Could hitlers story be a coverup? There's a conspircy saying that he never orderd such deaths and stuff so it's intresting to understand this guy and what his real agenda was cause tba... The real bad guys are the ones who invaded half of the world killing it's people to turn it into there own world.