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Spending yourself into debt will probably not make her love you.

upstream, I've never quite made it to having a conscious projection from dipping into the hypnagogic like that but I think I understand what you mean. It's like your conscious level is a sine wave that's tilted downward wavering its way into the OBE frequency.

Lately I've had a problem where I trance out just about to the OBE point I think when all of a sudden my left forearm flops onto my stomach and wakes me up. Do you know of any way to counteract this or why it happens?

ImmuredSoul,
Yes, 'morning' is a relative term depending on what your body thinks is the right waking time. There are two reasons it's easiest to project in the morning. The first is that after sleep your body is very relaxed. The second is the ratio of those chemicals which cycle depending on your body's normal sleep schedule and not the exact time of day.


Dream Cadet
You're on the right track! My biggest hurdle has always been to not get excited and flub it when I run across a new phenomenon. As far as I can tell the only solution is to just exeperience hypnagogics often enough that it's no longer exciting and then you can ease through that stage without waking.

You mean you hear hypnagogic sounds while you're up and around?

Leyla, if you can't get back to sleep immediately, I find the best thing is to stay up for an hour before trying again. If I can't get to sleep in 15 minutes or so then laying there for a long time makes it even harder to fall asleep. This is one of the reasons I think it's good to start two hours early so that you have some leeway.

You can try drinking some heated milk and have a banana, that works pretty well too.

[and what problems they're running into so I can work out the bugs]

That's fantastic!!!

You're right about how deceptive this method can be, the reality checks are critical because it's so easy to have a smooth projection and not know it.

I really want to know about how people are faring with this and what problems they're running into so I can work out the bugs. It works great for me but it would be a mistake for me to expect it to work for everyone without some tweaks, of course I can't make the tweaks without a lot of feedback.

I'm not really sure what all the shortcuts are, but in one of my projections I found I could access a control panel mentally. By selecting different parts on the control panel map I could teleport to various places.

I haven't recreated the control panel yet to experiment with it, so I'm not sure what its potential is. However a friend of mine discovered his control panel at age six and used it to activate his third eye, so these things are probably pretty powerful.

I'm pretty sure you can teleport more or less anywhere you have awareness of once you've projected, as long as your higher self or things more powerful than you are OK with it.

If you think about the atmosphere of the place you want to be and imagine yourself there you should teleport to it.

Can you tell us more about your projection technique? How long have you been trying it and what have you tried that didn't work?

Has anyone else tried this yet?

upstream I found that if I put an earplug in one ear and a headphone earbud in the other that's playing a huming sound made by BWgen or something, then I can fall asleep and when I heard the hum in only one ear in the dream I say WTF is that? And it can shock my into lucidity.

However, I have trouble falling asleep with the earbud in, and it doesn't always make me lucid, so I still have to tweak that one a bit io make it as reliable as Surprised Body.

Maybe programming myself to listen for that hum while awake as you suggest would help, it would be like a continual reality check.

Earplugs are optional but very useful, they just make it easier to fall asleep faster. Having a way to wake up at the given intervals is the only thing that's really important.

I would like to hear what you have to say about mirrors. I've found that I can see myself in mirror but that they may affect energy in unforeseen ways.

I did a reality test in an OBE by willing my finger to elogate out and into a mirror. When my finger went in it felt tingly and then the room went noticibly darker.

Originally the room was pretty bright, but when my finger went in, the edges of the mirror became darker like there was a sphere of light illuminating only the middle, and the sphere was centered in my chest.

Have you tried walking through an astral mirror or found that it affects your energy?

All you have to do to project from paralysis is start taking deep breaths until you separate.

If it feels creepy when you're in paralysis, make sure the atmosphere in your bedroom is nice and peaceful. Make sure everything is nice and neat, dark walls are a bad idea in a bedroom. Clean up any clothes laying around and make sure the sheets are freshly washed.

Everything seems a bit magnified when you're in paralysis so if the feel of the room you're in is slightly chaotic when you're awake then it will feel highly chaotic when you are in SP.

Something I discovered this morning is that it's easy to confuse your mind with this one. It's possible that you will project but think you're in the physical, the timer goes off and you sit there fooling with the timer and the display doesn't make any sense and it's because you're in the astral!

What I'm going to do is to make a CD with a ding at these intervals on it so you don't have to use the timer, and also you should do a reality check every time the timer goes off.

Of all the earplugs I've tried those are really the only ones worth buying in my opinion. My ear canals don't seem to be the right shape for the others and I can always hear things through them. You can get them at Target.

BTW I just updated the last part of the post with my theories on why it works.

Didn't you say you can transmute negative energy into positive energy? Maybe you should try hanging around an S/M bar or go to a clan rally and flip their polarity.

It seems to be a fairly common thing for people to experience periodic 'spiritual blahs' as their value systems shift and there are intervals where they've released stuff they don't need but haven't quite latched on to the new, important and fun stuff. Of course, I really have no way of knowing if this is what applies to you personally.

There was a similar question asked here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13054

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1.) How accurate is Bruce Moen's description of the process of Consciousness Workers graduating to become Light Beings and then eventually becoming on-Disk awarnesses?


2.) I'd like to find a mapping between Bruce Moen's terminology and more conventional wording. It seems like the term 'angel' means any individual Consciousness Worker, whereas Disks are equivalent to Arch Angels?


3.) Where do you fit in with Moen's description of things, are you a Disk functioning as a Planning Consciousness? If you are a Disk, are you higher than a level 1 Disk? If so how much higher?


4.) When people project to the astral planes, are they actually going to the heavens and hells in Focus 24, 25, and 26?


5.) At http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1626 Robert Bruce talks about removing moles by drawing a circle around them with a black ball point pen and then draing a cross through the circle over the mole. Does this work and if so, why?


6.) Moen made it all the way to Focus 27 without ever doing any energy work, he just used the tapes to tune to the right frequencies. Would it be more efficient to train focusing one's consciousness than it is to do energy work?


7.) I stuck my finger through an astral mirror and it seemed to suck my energy out. Before I did the room was nice and bright but when I put my finger in I felt a tingling sensation and things got darker. In fact the corners of the mirror went pretty much black because it looked like there was a ball of light I was giving off and when I put my finger in the ball shrunk to just a little bit smaller than the mirror. My question is, how are mirrors different from normal astral objects and do they suck your energy?


8.) I found that I have an astral control panel, I've only accessed it once but it seemed like it was an easy way for me to teleport to places by selecting them on the panel. Is the control panel a thoughtform that I made and have forgotten about, or is it something that everyone has?

9.) Do you know if there is more to a control panel than I am thinking? For instance, Sentential discovered his as a child and was able to learn to open his third eye using it; but I don't know how I would use my panel to do something like that.

Actually, once you blank your mind enough you don't have to expend any effort to keep it blanked. Your mind will always be blank, even when talking or typing you don't hear words, it all comes directly from the lower depths.

I find this is very useful in cases where I'm deep enough into trance that I am hearing voices and noises. Because I never hear my own voice thinking, I don't have to sift through the sounds deciding what was from me and what is hypnagogic.

So, IMO having a blank mind definitely does keep things simple!

When you get to full paralysis, start doing deep breaths. It will pop you out of body 100% of the time.

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I know at least one long term effect: dependence on brainwave generators.

BW generators are like training wheels. When you use training wheels you learn what it feels like to balance on the bike. Once you know that feeling you use that to ride the bike without training wheels.

When you know the feeling you have when you're going to OBE you don't really need a BW generator any more. I've found they are very useful temporary crutches and that there's really no danger of becoming dependent on them since you either know the feeling or you don't.

Most Americans are too busy stuffing their faces at McDonald's daydreaming about Britney Spears or WWWF to even think about looking into politics at a level any deeper than the superficial party line they are fed by CNN and Fox News, let alone pick up a gun and do something about it.

A more likely scenario is that one day people will look up from their cheeseburgers and find that they live life as slaves to debt from cradle to grave, their money is devalued to peso-level, and that impersonal foreign corporations own all the land.

The only solution I see is to raise people's awareness at the base cultural level and convince them they don't have to tick-tock through every day life as powerless robot serfs, but that every one of us is an infinite spiritual being powerful beyond comprehension and that we can not be made to do anything that goes against universal laws of love.

The lines between the physical and the higher realms are melting and we will soon find we can manifest our power here in the physical and do away with out-dated concepts like the Second Law Of Thermodynamics. We just have to discover the inner power and then teach others how to become more aware.

Upstream your technique for shifting your consciousness to the solar plexus sounds like a good idea. I've had cases where I was fully conscious and was able to separate my arms and legs but was rubberbanded at my head. I'll try your trick and see if I can relax my grip on my head. Thank you!

I think a civil war in the US is unlikely, it's not a nation of farmers who could to shoot a jackrabbit at 200 yards like it was in 1860. People today simply are not that tough.