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Take a deep breath, and relax

Fear nothing, expect nothing

You will get there

The whole Lamborghini thing with the cop kinda makes sense if you think about the fact that your "guides" don't wanna freak you out. It was the way they figured would be the most beneficial to you "at this time".. the easiest for you to cope with I guess. A cool looking car.. nothing weird about that.. and a sheriff, a safe/secure person you can trust etc etc..

Haha that's so true man, interesting .. i should have asked more questions, but i didn't know what to ask and forgot most of the conversation, instead of asking questions and wanting anwsers i search for i should ask ones where it will bring me new information

thanks for making me realize this

Kissalove check out this video Ryan posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_q5CDE2Nko

very very very useful!

I wouldn't know how to start to be honest man,

I'm thinking some audio editing program to put in a voice recorder in your music file?

But what music?

White noise maybe?

Hmmmmm i'll check it out

Read my post on my topic where you asked that question but here is a simplified version;

I go to bed at night around 11-12am

Wake up at 8-9am, go to the toilet if i need to and make myself comfortable

Come back and i lay in my bed and get comfortable and i start prepping myself for the OBE, i'll tell my self to stay awake

After that it just comes, i feel the vibrations soon after because my body is asleep but my mind is wide awake, then i can go from there

Techniques i use to get out of my body is rope technique, or picturing my a scenery and concentrating my body's energy to be in that place

The key is to focus your energy out side of your body

Hiii Kissalove!

I can easily tell you what i do, but the thing is it might not have the same effect on you as it does too me

For example i might know certain information about a certain topic that you have yet to come across and me being able too connect myself with that and get into AP pretty easy now probably comes down to all those little things which make my fear go away completely when i AP

Does that make any sense :S

But here is what i do

In the morning i'll wake up from a sleep and go to the toilet or whatever if i need to go tinkle or get a drink of water

I'll come back to bed and i know my body and how it works i know if i go back to sleep and i wake up shortly i will be able to have an AP/OBE because thats when im most conscious while my body is still asleep

And subconsciously all the back ground information comes into play with all of this, like years ago when i used to do keep a dream journal on Lucid dreaming and i remember studying the sleep patterns and knowing in the morning is where your most conscious because of the way the sun manipulates some levels in your brain chemistry

See what i mean? i don't think about these things when i do it but all this background information i have on everything, peoples experiences, my experiences, study all connects to that moment wether i am thinking of it or not

So if there's no distractions like my dogs barking or outside noises i can easily get into the vibration state from waking up and telling myself to keep your mind awake, and vibration state comes quickly after, sometimes i use the rope technique to get out of my body but just this morning i was able to fully get out by picturing where i want to go and picturing myself float out of my body (I read a post about a person saying he exited out of his body from his head) so i implemented it and it worked for me

I've only started OBE'ing since last week, and i've been having them alot because of my awareness levels and my knowledge of the subject and relevant subjects which allow me to do this and even completely random subjects like things i studied to help better myself with confidence in the real world, learning how to contrl my emotions and certain situations and excrement

It's not just go to bed, keep your mind awake, then feel the vibration state then go where you want to the new person

it's about the WHOLE background of information and experiences of that individuals path that he/she has encountered in his life for him to be able to get to that point, being aware of that is key

So keep practicing, don't give up and have a strong mind set of your goal and you WILL achieve it! Believe me!

Sorry for the long reply but i hope this helps you out Kissalove!

Thanks Ryan!

Wow, sounds like a crazy experience! But

So I just layed there for a moment.  Then I decided to give up on going out of the house, and grabbed hold of my penis, made it extremely large, and began sucking it.  So I sucked it for what seemed five minutes, made a mess, and then decided to return to physical reality and do the same thing I had just done.  I was almost returned to physical life, and I grabbed hold of it, but then, something woke me up, someone was in the house. 

Ummmm

This was pretty weird and i was set out to project somewhere this time and i did it!

I started off by waking up in the morning, going to the toilet coming back then drifting off a little

I woke up again and then went back to sleep with the set of having an OBE, i started on my side and i felt my astral arms move when i wanted them and noticed i was having false awakenings

So i woke myself up got on my back and then 5-10 seconds later i felt the vibrations, as i  got to the black void i pictured myself in my grand parents apartnment in Bosnia (Eastern Europe) , im currently at Melbourne, Australia)

I ended up in there toilet and i came out and went and looked for them, i saw them both on the bed and i came up and yelled "Majka! Majka!" which is Bosnian for "Grandma" they both awoke my grandma and grandpa and i remember having a conversation with them, she was suprised to see me but i didn't take much note of it and im not jumping to conclusions if thats what actually happened or i made it up with my sub conscious, but either way i'll have an open mind too it

Another thing to note i remember my twin brother came along too in my AP, maybe i made him appear with my sub conscious because i had a feeling of he had to be there too to visit them?


After this i woke up and then went back to the vibrating state, this time with the intent on projecting to a specific time, i can't remember what i said to project to where i was going next but it was along the lines of picturing my house and "Current time" and i usually use the rope technique but this time i pictured myself coming out the top of my head while saying "Go!" and i was out just like that

I started walking down through my house and i saw my brother, the mood was a cozy dim lighted room and it felt so familiar, my brother told me it was September the 1st and i checking my computer and having a chat to some guy and telling him im from the future (Lol) again to remind everoyne im keeping an open mind to everything and not jumping to conclusions!

It was weird because i felt like the conversation i had with him i had already had before, the warmth of the room felt the same, then i went outside....

Darkly light atmosphere i saw alot of people, i talked to a few people but forgot the conversations, i remember calling out to the spirit guide and asking people what year it was i also remember flying at some point

ALSO another interesting thing when i called for a spirit guide a Lamborghini came up right next too me and it was like he knew i needed help or wanted questions anwsered, i got in and there was this guy wearing a cop outfit and i remember a badge saying "sheriff" i asked him what year it was and he paused for a second then he said "I forgot" then i asked again thinking my mind was making this up and he gave me an answer something like 1970 or something, different reality? subconscious ? who knows !

I remember we were driving and i was looking at the speedometer and i noticed the speed started at the high 100s, i looked at him again and her turned and i saw his face, he turned to me and he was bald and he kind of looked up and i could see his eyes were a bit deformed, not so much deformed but they were weird...

I remember thinking to myself F**k i've been here for a while i need to go back and jot down my experiences before i forget them and i snapped back into my room and i had a false awakening of me turning on my computer and then managed to get myself to snap out of it

So happy i was able to project to my grandparents house all the way in Bosnia, and still had a shot at real time projection , a long and interesting road ahead!

Just had a thought yesterday, when you realize you are lucid dreaming sometimes you tell yourself "I'm dreaming"

Was thinking... why not have a sound track and then have your own voice 1-2hours into the track say "I'm dreaming"

Has anyone tried this before?

Thanks Ryan for compiling this together!

Now, when you say "HD" (I'm assuming you mean High Definition)... I'd interpret that as you looking for what I call an "Astral Awareness".  When someone has what I call a "waking awareness" (which is what you have right now) in the non-physical, I call that having an "astral awareness".  Is that what you mean by HD?
I find that "manipulation" of my environment and myself depends highly upon my focus and awareness level.  But even then, "manipulation" also seems to be a secondary characteristic of the experience.  What I mean is that it's probably more dependent upon the particular reality frame you find yourself in and the rules that govern that reality frame than the state of awareness that your consciousness is.

I say this, because I've had Lucid and Astral Awareness experiences where things were easy to manipulate... and I've also had experiences where I couldn't change things in the slightest.  To me, this says that the rules of the certain reality frames I had found myself in, which looking similar, were completely different.  I posit, that there are many different realities that we visit while "sleeping".
But strangely enough, flying seems to be a widely accepted rules across a lot of different realities.  LoL
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Hey Ryan ,

Thanks for the reply!

And yeah by HD i meant High definition

And as you were saying about the manipulation i can agree with that also because i experience things like that too, maybe that is the difference between LD and AP?

Early morning where i do most of my LD's and OBE/APs

I was feeling vibrations and being awake throughout the morning and i pictured myself taking steps on the step outside my door and after some time i ended up there

I went into my brother's room to check and similarities i could see for and checked behind his computer desk and there was a duck tape, camera and
ruler i made mental note of this before i left

I then tried to exit the wall but couldnt do it so i went more downstairs in my house and then i tried
to exit the window and it was hard-ish at first and i got out then i saw outside, and the weather was
awesome, it was like it was 2D in quality/cartoonish but it had a real-life like too it, I had ideas of
going into my neighbors house too see what his house was like but i thought it would be much better
to check out what was outsides, before in the morning as i would try to OBE i would call out for a spirit guide
and it would be very hard on my voice or my throat i could feel it not being able to communicate it fully but when i
did it outside here it was clear and even echoed a little, i then noticed 4 things come down from the sky

I noticed one that that came up next to me and it was one of thsoe knights who ride horses, except it was more so
of a cartoonish  of those realistic ones, i then noticed it tried to poke me so i poo'd myself a little and i remember a voice in
the background saying to "free your mind" and when that happened i knew for some reason to fly away, so i got up out of there
and started flying towards this green mountain which was directly left of my house, and it was beautiful too, sky was awesome and
i remember looking down and trying to see that "silver cord" people tell me about, but i couldn't see it ... does this mean its a dream or a
OBE/AP

I think i recall thinking if i don't have a silver cord i might have died, and i think that thought sent me straight back to my physical body, opps

Some notes i remember is that when i awoke my brothers computer didn't have the measuring tape, and i dont have windows on the bottom of my house
on the wall that i went through , instead there's a TV


Also what i noticed is that i had about 3-4 OBE's in the morning except not all of them were as successful as this one, and every time i tried one i felt like i was
attracting entities or other things (might of been figment of my imagination) to my room, for example i could sense a dog (after this force pulled me to the bottom of
my bed and felt the fuzziness and it reminded me of my dog that passed away) and i also recall something trying to scare me and a silhouette of a women standing above
me

veryyyyyyy interesting

Hey blis thanks for the reply,

That's good man keep at it! check back on my previous topic i edited it a little, might be of use to you some how

So last night I got about 4-5 hours of sleep and as I was laying down I was trying to astral project. Well I failed there so this afternoon I tried again. The second time didnt go as planned either but I did lucid dream for the first time instead! It was such an amazing experience! But I do have a few questions about it if any of you experienced lucid dreamers would care to listen.

One of the things I recall most was talking to people/friends. As I was talking to my friends I notice that I could never get a full, clear view of their faces like something always seemed to be covering it. Also when I was talking to them I realized that what we were talking about made no since. And when I realized this my one friend said something like "I always hate lucid dreaming because its impossible to talk to people." Is this common for all lucid dreamers to not be able to communicate well with people and too not really see their faces in dreams?

After that I remember feeling a very strong emotion to get away from people as I was walking down a city street. It was like I felt so alone. I never experienced emotion like that in a dream. And right around there is when I tried to fly (if i remember correctly). I tried flying like Superman a fews times but only could do like a super, high, jump. Then I tried swimming through the air and it was working but I was going super slow and it was exhausting and eventually glided gently to the ground. Does anyone have any tips for flying?

My last question is when I tried to astral project while in my dream because I have heard it is very common for people to do this. I think I was standing a little ways from where I tried flying when I attempted to project. I remember kind of saying something like "astral project now!" and when I did I felt my astral entity start to intensely swirl inside me and almost leave me but couldnt quite do it. The feeling was so intense that I cant really describe it well. After that Im not sure what happened but I do know that I continued dreaming. I was wondering how you guys project while lucid dreaming? Do you lay down and do it? Any tips?

Id like to thank anyone who took the time to read this, this was such an incredible experience for me!

Hey man, congrats first of all!!

Second of all lucid dreaming is being inside your mind, Anything is possible, every thought you have is automatically processed in your lucid dream

When you were viewing your friends faces and they were blocked, it must of started of once, then you implemented the idea that every one you talk to would have there face covered, next time try to tell your self "I can see there faces perfectly fine"

now your friend saying the "I hate lucid dreaming because its impossible to talk to people" thats false, and thats your idea in your head that you manifested and believed and therefore was projected in your lucid dream as your friend telling you the same thing, ANYTHING is possible! remember that! you control your lucid dream 100%

Completely get rid of the the idea of not being able to talk to people in your lucid dream and the covering faces part, you set out the scenery with every single thought you process in your head, and you can manipulate the scenary with how you want it to be and also feel how you want to feel, if you want to have an orgasm, tell your self if i touch this wall i am going to have a strong orgasm, touch the wall and you will have one, BELIEVE in it, dont have one single spec of thought regarding that you can't do it , because you CAN!

Flying is easy, if you make it easy

Understand what i'm trying to say?

That's what practice is, the more you do it, the more your mental thought process filters out all those negative "i can't do it" thoughts

As for the lucid dream to astral porjection, i have no idea

Hope this helps

as for leaving her? If I was to leave her, some external force would have to be there. AND it would not happen, until she could maintain herself without me.. be happy without me in her life, as I cannot be everything she almost demands of me.

I try to follow my heart.. That is the main reason I am still with her. >.> If she would just be more positive about ANYTHING I would not have a problem being with her.. I have tried and tried and tried to get her to just sit and put a positive mindset about things, yet she refuses..
So in my heart, I dont want to leave her because I want to make a positive impact on her.. but part of my heart thinks it will never happen. Soo I dont know v.v;

"almost demands of me"

Now i know i'm on the right track

If your un-happy, leave

You can't change someone that doesn't want to be changed, she needs to help herself ... or a professional

trust me you CAN'T change her! and you trying will anger her even more

opposites attract

Opposites don't attract in this situation, in the way your thinking...

Most of the time, if not all the time the the guy feels bad for the girl because of her emotional state and has a sense of he needs to help her

Usually girls will cause of sorts of hell that will mentally and emotionally control you to the way she wants it by crying, or giving the silent treatment or with holding sex, jealousy plots, purposely hurting your feelings

How do you think girls like this got by at the start of time? Over-powered men?

They work on an emotional level and guys are on the logical level


Not her fault or yours, might be some past daddy issues, or problems in the family

Either way if your having problems on a constant basis with your girl i would see the relationship for what it REALLY is and grow a pair and brake it off before
you get hurt

But if i am jumping to conclusions seeing as i don't know you or your girlfriend, i apologize !

Just giving some friendly insight  

Writting this, i know you wont take my advice ... most dont until they go through what i once went through in an unhealthy relationship and then they will think "Ohhhhh... now i get it"

I can during lucid dreams, sometimes i even try to come up with new ideas for example when i tell myself after reaching into a pencil case and picking out a piece of paper it will give me 2 ideas, and i pull it out and i can read the words, but there completely random ... for example "200" and "Trains"

Lol :S

But maybe if i keep trying it will come up with something useful

[believe]

Now i'm not trying to take over these forums or anything or make myself "popular", these are just my experiences that i have come across and work for me, and also connect to relative subjects of the power of the mind which is really interesting! Check it out and lemme know what you think!


Over the years i have figured out how to control your lucid dreams 100%, Doing anything you want, literally anything imaginable

Its this;

Connecting a mental thought to a physical movement

Now you can combo this how ever you want,

For example if you read on Lucid forums and it tells you if you rub your hands together you increase the quality and achieve "HD" in your dreams

and because of that mental thought and you doing that physical movement you convince yourself it works and sure enough it does!

You have to realize in your lucid dreams you are the controller, your in your mind so any thought that comes across will manipulate your environment!

ANYTHING !

I can't stress this enough! if you believe in doing a particular thing it will HAPPEN

Want to fly? Flying is easy. Tell your self that. then next time enjoy your flying experiences to the place you choose

Remember your in your MIND, all your mental processes are going on, so EVERY incy little bit of mental thought effects your lucid dream

Practice! Why? Because your confidence grows in the thing you want to do, and this filters out any negative processes in your head when you try to achieve something, during your lucid dream AND in real life!

One thing of the combination i do with the lucid dreams with thought and movement is i say to my self what i want too appear, or what i want to happen, and then i tell my self i look to my left, then look back i will have the thing i pictured there, or that event will happen (such as a tsunami appearing)

You can literally do anything imaginable, key word  = IMAGINABLE

Your the creator in your world!

You can do much more things while lucid other then driving fast cars, flying and what not

You can get over your fears, and feel strong emotion of whatever you want! Be it a strong orgasm, or a intense happy surge of energy through your body , its possible ! anything is possible you can think of!

I think that's why some people have troubles lucid dreaming, you have to look at it in another perspective,  hope this helps too any upcoming lucid dreamers

I been trying to implement this process in the real world, and it works to some extent sometimes i would match a movement like squeezing my hands while im in bed and telling myself every squeeze i do i will get tierd, and it works to an extent

And other scenarios such as fitness, riding up a hill on a bike and repeating to myself POWER! YOU CAN DO THIS! POWER! not letting any room of negative thoughts to enter my mind as one little bit can through off your whole feeling toward it

The mind is powerful

Ever seen a hypnosis? I remember one where he was pretending to be a doctor and he put that device around a girls arm which measures your blood pressure, and he told her every squeeze he will do it will create an intense orgasm that will grow higher as the device tightens

PEACE

P.s

Look up Neuro linguistic programming

This might be relevant to your situation, and might not


I used to see a girl and i slept over her house one night and i woke up in the middle of the night with her head moving left to right violently, i was like Ummmm lets get the f**k out of here!

I woke her up and i asked her what she was doing, and shes like "Oh i have a disorder where it makes me do it"

Maybe some sort of sleep disorder?

Woo thanks for the reply Boom and Greytraveller,

I understand where your both coming from and Grey is right about people having coming to different conclusions on what an OBE and a AP is,

And that story about your girlfriend Boom , earlier that week i had an AP where i was out of my body and i was in my house, except all the beds were missing, thought that was pretty weird.... what if that AP is somewhere in the past, or the future? Or maybe just the fabrication of the mind

Ima try that card trick out very soon Boom, see how i go

Take it easy guys

Thanks for the reply Boom

Little confused between OBE and Astral projection you were talking about,

What i did was projected myself too my old house, as it stands today?

Could it be possible it was someone in my room sleeping there based on the current
owners who live there?

Then this leads to my next question,

Real time zone, this is for example being out of my body and being next to my physical form but in my astral body?
Meaning i can see things on the physical plane and go places as they are happening?

Thanks again for your reply man

Your boyfriends in prison


That's it ... they don't want you to keep connected with him because maybe his in there for a reason?

Maybe there protecting you?

Don't let love blind you

Having some thoughts about if this was an OBE or not

So it was morning after i had just woken up and decided to try to have an OBE

Felt the vibrations like normal and i was picturing myself in my room, so i had the layout and everything planned in my head where i was
going to be when i exit my body

Except for some reason i was thinking of the layout of my OLD House, and i didn't realise till i got out of my body by rolling out of it, i ended up on the floor and i turned around and i was in my old room, i saw someone on a bed and i thought it was me, after that i was crawling on the ground my upper body was free but my legs didn't seem too move,

I crawled out the window, landed on the floor and then i could walk, and now it was then i realised i was in my old house, i walked up my driveway and and looked at my neighbors house too see if i could pick out something to remember so i could have a look in physical life when i woke up

I saw a car down the road and everything looked legit, my view was very wide also thats something that i also noted

There was heaps of distractions during the morning, my dogs for example so when i peered off into the road and thought to myself it would be nice for a guide to help me, but no response for the next few seconds, then the scenary dissolved slowly and i was back in my bed

I'm getting alot better with getting out of my body now and holding the vibrations and letting them take over

So my question is, was this an OBE?

And also i haven't been doing any chakra meditations, is it necessary?

I have had past experiences with LSD and Mushrooms and alot of Lucid dreaming ( I taught myself when i was young , keeping a dream journal and all that ) so I'm thinking my conscience is expanded to where its allowing me to have OB-E's and be conscious about it seeing as i have only been attempting this a week

Hey guys i really should do an introduction but seeing as i just experienced a few and its fresh in my mind i decided to post this first

Its been a week now since i been trying to Astral Project and i been having little success with it, i write down in notepads my experiences and this some of them;

I'll first tell you the most recent one(s)

I was in my bed trying to induce and OBE by laying on the top of my bed with my underwear on only, it was cold so i put a donna over myself and thought i might aswell try to lucid dream instead, maybe 30minutes or so i woke up and was still drouzy and i king of accidentally had an starting of an OBE (where i felt the vibrations)

So i tried to do this ladder thing and imagine myself climbing a ladder and
i kept imagining it in my head, all of a sudden i got out of my body completely but i couldnt see anything, my eyes were closed like they were 2minutes ago before i was imagining the ladder

Then i kind of floated of my bed  slowly because i was trying to get up on my room and i landed on the floor and felt my back hit the computer chair leg, then i snapped back into my physical body because i realised i couldn't make any progress because my eyes were closed and i was incredibly sluggish and slow in my astral body

Literally few seconds later after i snapped back into my body i imagined a girl infront of me and i started kissing her and focusing on the senstations and how she was a distance away from me and i was in my bed so that thought of distance and me focusing my energy literally flung my astral body out of my physical body and then i felt like i was light, when that happened i opened my eyes and the room looked weird, it was like i could only see the view from where my physical body was, i started hearing noises and tried calling out to a spirit guide but my voice couldnt get out of my physical body and it felt like my neck was struggling to say anything even though i was outside my body, and then i snapped back into my physical body

Literally another 30 seconds had passed and i attempted it again and felt the vibrations like the other 3 times after this time trying the ladder thing again or maybe it was the girl thing, and my astral arm flung up out of body real fast, this time i tried opening my eyes straight away and i saw the room but from the point where my physical body was, and couldn't completely get out of my body, and i felt i hit a pillow up and it landed on my face and i felt the force of the pillow as my arm went up and as it hit me on my head when it fell down, i then snapped back because i couldn't move, there was no pillow were my arm was.

All those hapened within a space of 3-5minutes

Real quick and fast and felt like i could project my astral body out of my physical body very fast

After the 3rd or 4th time i tried taking my blanket off and just laying there with my boxers but it was pretty cold and i couldn't do it

So my question is, what the hell where those physical objects i felt and touched (Such as the computer chair leg my back landed on) and the pillow? Lucid dream? And i don't understand why i'm having trouble moving my body around it feels really slow and sluggish, and i can't seem to open my eyes and if i do the sight is usually like im looking from my physical body (For example if my head is tilted left i can see the angle of the room like that, but from where im standing it really obscures the room, its weird :S

Anyone experienced this or can guide me to the right path of how to get completely out and explore with ease?

To save you the long read the other experiences i had were similiar, me trying to get out and say an arm or leg coming out but my body not completely coming out

There was this one time also where i freed myself and felt the vibrations and my body was pulled by a force off my bed slowly, then it was turned upside down slowly and it was rising to the roof, and the way i can explain this is that when i hit a certain point in the top of the room where my body had started to go higher then it, it felt like i was slipping into another dimension, like the feeling you get where you take off a glove off your hand, that slip and extra exterior coming off and when that happened i got scared and snapped back into my body

Would appreciate some insight into my experiences and if anyone could help me out

Thanks for letting me bore you!