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I must point out that Egyptoligists also dont agree with theories of giants or high technology. Did you read the entire page from that link? Its long, I know but it does explain everything in detail. I (and margeret morris agree) that you do indeed need to do a chemical analysis of the stones in question to verify 100% that they are indeed geopolymers. I am aware of the silica issue but that doesnt rule out the use of geopolymerization.

I definitely don't rule out geopolymerization, I believe Davidovits is right, but there are many implications to that. For instance, where did that knowledge come from? How did these people from ancient times decided to mix substances and build the most incredible and complex structure the world has ever seen? With styles of drawing, script, architecture and social organization of no precedent?

Yes, I read the whole thing, they are talking specifically about Egypt. It wouldn't be sensible to say that the same applies to all megaliths around the world, for they are clearly of different natures, styles, time periods, and unlike in Egypt, most of the civilizations that built the other megaliths remain unidentified.

Theres no evidence of high technology either. Infact there is more evidence that geopolymerization was used. It was not neccessary for the geopolymers to have been poured into moulds infact it was very impractical and unlikely. However evidence such as cuts bearing traces of copper in stones harder than copper have been found in several places... how did they cut a stone harder than their instrument? It was softer than their instrument at the time they were cutting it. Indeed even if they WERE giants its still impossible for them to cut granite with copper (unless of course it was soft at the time suggesting geopolymerization. Secondly if they had high technology they would not be using copper instruments. You reckon they would have made pavements? *shrugs* maybe that just wasnt their style... Also look at how closely the pyramid stones are placed within 1/500th - 1/800th of an inch... conventionally we cant explain how they did it... suppose geopolymerization were used the stone would have been soft enough to mould to the contours of its surrounding stones giving such a tight fit. Actually machining a stone to that precision and trying to fit it into place like that would be a very difficult waste of time, this theory supposes they had high technology which none has been found. As for the quarry sites... all questions need an answer real or imagined so they HAD to find a quarry site to support their theories... who knows? Good point though but it doesnt rule out geopolymerization.

Speaking exclusively about Egypt, it is possible that they used both geopolymers and high technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzh_04peCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSoH7YANptM

They have found these depictions showing how they illuminated the pyramids from the inside using artificial light.

Ancient Egyptian Lightbulb: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/chaptera/

Excerpt: If people were misled, it is their own fault for being naive enough to expect the truth from Government and Politicians that have steadily increased their ability to lie to the people since 1861.

As for the megaliths... a chemical analysis must be done! I wish one was because I really want to know once and for all. However On that page I linked to I read that on a particular megalith there was something carved (dont remember the details) and close inspection revealed that surrounding particles of the rock had been pushed out of the way rather than chiseled out which would have damaged the stone... no evidence was present to suggest chiseling of hard stone. This leads to the conclusion that the stone was infact soft when the carving was made suggesting geopolymerization.

You and I arent experts on the subject... but if you look at the arguments supporting geopolymerization in full (http://www.margaretmorrisbooks.com/giza_power_plant_meltdown.html) they are very compelling and very logical. Seriously this is the most plausable explanation for a LOT of things! What good will it do you to discard it in favor of other theories without considering it?

Indeed, I very much like the geopolymer idea, I don't understand why you think that I don't. If I didn't I wouldn't have quoted Davidovits on the article.

I do beleive giants did exist, I wish that historians would acknowledge it! Michael Tsarion has a lot of interesting things to say on atlantis, aliens, giants and high technology. I am undecided on the actual history of the world/universe but I do take everything into consideration (except young earth creationism... LOL).

The false front fascinates me i've seen it before and it is certainly remarkable. Whats amazing is that the finds are numerous.

Thanks for your contributions, I will look for Michael Tsarion. I'd like to recommend the The Greek Apocalypse of Baruch, it's easy to find on the web, I found it so amazing and absurd that it must be true! 

Yes, imagine someone of the future finds one of our concrete buildings and wonders how we moved them there in one piece, lol.

Concrete buildings are not natural mineral accretions.

Thanks for the link.

Mez, to make such an statement you need to verify the mineral composition of all the megaliths.

I must point out that Egyptologists don't agree with Davidovits when he says that the stones of the pyramids were man-made. Anyways, to produce a geopolymer in order to build megaliths you need a good supply of silica. In Egypt, on the casing stones of the Cheops and Teti pyramids they have found considerable amounts of Opal-CT, which is a by-product of amorphous silica, mixed with limestone. Now here's the problem, amorphous silica is not commonly found in good quantities on the surface of our planet, and it wasn't found on the Egyptian quarries.

Where did the Egyptians get that substance to make their cement? It's a mystery.

Though the natives have a beautiful culture, there's no evidence to support the idea that they were producing cement, neither thousands of years ago nor today. If this was the case one would expect to find at least workmanship made of cement, pavements and the like. It's very unlikely that the temples of Sacsayhuaman, Tiahuanaco, Baalbek,  the megaliths at Nabta and Stonehenge were made by the pouring of a geopolymer, as their quarry sites have all been identified. Also, you cannot use cement to build high structures without the use of internal rods of sustentation, and these were never found.

Are humans the tallest beings in the Universe?

http://www.geocities.com/saqatchr/page45.html
http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=3891

The False Front: http://www.skybooksusa.com/time-travel/experime/thefalse.htm

Temporal anomalies are scattered throughout the world -- things that could not possibly belong to the time period in which they were found.  Evidence exists of human civilization, artifacts and technology out of time that are abundant, well researched and well documented.

This forbidden knowledge is being protected and hidden from all of us.  Today's popular view of modern human presence in the distant past is a false front.  The real truth is out there showing proof of advanced technology and people millions of years before humanity is stated to have evolved on the planet.

Why has the scientific establishment and government suppressed and ignored these remarkable finds?  Where did they come from?  How did they get there?  Why are we suppressing this suggestive proof of modern time travelers visiting our past?

As you study the forbidden knowledge on these pages a whole new truth will emerge and become apparent to you... the truth that the earth was visited or inhabited by modern humans using advanced technology long before the appearance of the first humans as the history books write today.

You made some good points rygoody, I'm open to all possibilities that can be proven somehow. It was interesting what you said about directing the energy to something that is under my control, I think it all leads back to ourselves and what we're doing here on Earth. It's hard to say how it will affect the future, but it certainly gave me a better sense of appreciation, and many of my past experiences started making sense, like this was the missing piece of my puzzle. On the other hand I recognize the loop you talk about, and I'm more at ease about it now as I understand that whatever happened is in the past, and I need to go on from here the best way that I can.

It is strange because the only explanation I can think of for these findings is that Atlantis was in fact the Pangea, and the separation of the continents happened much later than what we've been told.

Regarding the evidence for the other races:

http://www.geocities.com/saqatchr/page45.html
http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/

Yes, I kinda rushed straight to the point when I could have made some more in-depth considerations. Only I didn't want to get too much into giants or other controversial races, I preferred to focus more on the tangible aspects, though there's plenty of evidence that supports the existence of giants in the past.

For instance, I learned a week ago about how they once tried to remove the Pedra Montada from there for whatever reasons (stupid), so they sent a crane and trucks to the hill, and even the people of the news service were there to witness, but they were not able to move the stone lol.

We have Archeological registers of only native Indians inhabiting this land for at most 12.000 years, then the first European colonizers arrived 500 years ago. If the Indians were somehow magically able to move huge stones, why were they living in shacks made of dry grass when the colonizers arrived? There's something very important that has been missed, it certainly weren't the Indians who moved those incredible stones.

The funny thing is that this what has been missed changes virtually everything about the past of our planet. Have they created everything? Why did the dinosaurs disappear, were they removed from the planet?

We need to keep in mind that we are small, all we have to do to realize this is to look at the dimensions of the Universe, so, to them, dinosaurs are like what geckos are to us.

I don't know what is going to happen, I personally don't think that whoever they were/are, they are coming back in 2012 or planning a mass destruction, that would be plain stupid, because if we look at this through the view of spirituality, we could be reincarnating here and there, living both as small humans and giants. We wouldn't even be able to tell the difference, because a giant is only a giant when compared to something much smaller, so among themselves on their own planet/dimension they are not giants at all.

The structures are there, and our current model cannot explain them, it doesn't even try to explain them, it totally ignores them, so it needs to be replaced by a model that is willing to face the reality and stops trying to push a false one.

Probably the most important thing is to raise the general awareness and to stir a discussion. There are so many people out there thinking that life is not worth living anymore, and they still have no idea how fantastic our world is, or how incredible it's story is. Life itself is incredible, and this chance is priceless, nothing can be more important than this.

It may be the aura, what is interesting is that it stretches out pretty far.

Hmm, no haven't done that standing closer to the river, I'll see if I can do that next week, I've been having a lot of work to do lately, don't know if it's bad or good ;-/

There's another bridge where the water has been blocked from running freely, and there the streaks don't appear. Also, when the waters get too muddy the streaks disappear. I don't see them in the pool either, but gotta check that better.

Yes, it needs the shadow. Another strange thing is that when the shadow is approaching the river and hasn't yet touched the water, the river 'perceives' that the shadow is coming and starts forming the streaks towards the shadow projected on the grass.

no helicopters available

Yes, resembles Merisee 

Who thought this? Don't be afraid, I come in peace  just want to know who sent that thought, I've never been a fan of Star Wars, so I had never heard of that, I think...

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Wow, that is extremely interesting, that guy is doing an excellent job. I had no idea about these things on the martian sphinx. I liked it when he spoke about the spherical hole on the forehead of the sphinx, wish there were more people talking about these 'impact craters', so that at least the interested public realizes that it's the biggest astronomical and geological lie ever told.

Check out this picture of Cydonia Mensae, take a look at the structure on the upper part of the left side, the perfect polygon:
Cydonia

Exactly, life is much more precious than what we can even begin to understand.

But, since he is curious, there's something he can try.

Whenever you're Dreaming or A.P.ing pretend that you're an interviewer and ask 5 random questions to anyone that you find there. Start your questions with "In your opinion..." and make sure that the questions are short.

After doing that, force yourself to wake up and immediately place your hand on your forehead and temples.

See?

Death is every blink of an eye, forget about death, you can do much better than that.

Thanks for the ideas Novice, I will do just that. I have taken some other pictures, in most of those other pictures I was standing in the center of the triangle as it is the most visible place, but I have taken this behind the shadow of the bar:

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This on a different triangle:

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And this one was taken a couple of weeks ago on the other side of the bridge:

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I'm posting more pictures tomorrow, you can all feel free to give more ideas, hope it is sunny.

I'm not sure where to post this as I have no idea what it means, but it started bugging me when strangers started pointing to my shadow projected on the water and saying things like "Look daddy, how cool!", "Why are those lights there and not here?", "See those little waves there, what is it?".

Most of the time I just listen but don't say anything, but when that kid pointed to my shadow and said 'how cool' I asked him if it was around my shadow, to which he replied 'yes'.

I suspect it has to do with my recent researches, because I had never seen that before. It only happens around my shadow, and it follows me as I walk across the bridge. This made me worry that something was going to happen to me, but it's been about 3 weeks since this started and I'm alright.

They don't appear around my reflex, only the shadow of my head. I tried making shadows with my hands, but the streaks of light didn't converge to them.

I took some pictures to prove it because there are already too many people thinking that I'm crazy

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I have no control over the water, I can't make it rise or anything, it happens totally independent of my will.

Thank you for reading FadeEsdrasX.

Hey, thanks for the videos and websites, they were great!

I specially enjoyed the excerpt from the Epic of Gilgamesh: Gilgamesh, what you seek you will never find, for when the Gods created man, they let death be his lot. Eternal life they withheld. Let your everyday be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand. Let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.

I saw that movie volcomstone, I used to love it when I was young, I dreamed of creating some machine like that :}

Yes, I don't know exactly what process they used, but I know it has to do with God Harakhte.

God Harakhte is always depicted with the image of a red globe on his head. I believe that red globe to be planet Mars, and why is it on his head? Because that's where he is headed to.

Harakhte.

Harakhte! Great god, lord of heaven, lord of earth, who cometh forth from the horizon. He illuminateth the Two Lands, the sun of darkness, as the great one, as Re.
                                                                    Horemheb
J. H. Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt, Part Three, § 3

Harakhte 2.

Let's take a look at the story.

There's one figure that couldn't possibly be there, the last one of the first row. It shows a snake, and inside the snake is a very familiar place, it shows the African Continent in the center as it was more than 5.000 years ago, part of Europe, and a small part of South America, as seen from space. They depict planets inside snakes.

Take your own conclusions folks.

I know, but I've had positive confirmations of this.

Check out the basalt mountains in Egypt, take a close look at the shape of the mountains in the back, Widan Al-Faras:



Now check out Wadi Hammamat, what kind of place is this?

There were many advanced civilizations in all parts of the world, not just the Egyptians, they used large stones for the temples in Baalbek, Sacsayhuaman, and various other megalithic structures. I suspect, and I really wish I wasn't talking about this because I know how crazy this sounds, I'm not sure how I or why I got caught in all this, but they used these dome shaped machines that sat on the soil of the planets and then a a blade the size of the dome was activated and it cut off part of the soil, which then filled the dome. Upon arriving here on Earth they put the soil upside down, so that the flat surface extracted faced the surface of our planet, and the dome shaped subsoil became the upper part, forming mountains and islands. You can find these mountains near all these sites.

I diiiiid. Really, I swear. 

I just couldn't stop thinking about those heads poking up out of the hillsides for some reason.

Yes, the statues on the easter Island are also mysterious megalithic structures, only they are much more recent, so unfortunately I had to keep them out of the article. Legends speak about tall red haired people that had earlobes so long that they could tie them behind their heads. 

I tried to lift the crocodile stone but could not 

[I disagree with your interpretation on the meteor impacts. Think about the logistics of transferring raw material across the solar system, its just not efficient!]

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Great Thread! 

I  disagree with your interpretation on the meteor impacts.  Think about the logistics of transferring raw material across the solar system, its just not efficient!


  However other aspects are interesting.  The Annunaki are described in detail by ancient cuneiform scripts/tablets. Also depicted in some sumerian tablets is the solar system  complete with neptune! (didn't Galileo discover neptune WITH A TELESCOPE?) Sumerians had no telescopes.

Tihuanaco is claimed to be as one of the lost kingdoms of Atlantis.  A gate claimed by one anthropologist as "the Vernal equinox Gate"  was supposed to line up with the rising sun on the first day of spring.  But this couldn't have happened after 10,000 BC, when the last time this gate would line up!  The anthropologist recieved much criticism after this.

  anyhow, our knowledge is tainted, so we'll never know....         

Good point, I had to answer a similar question on another forum.

This is a very interesting point. There are not many things that we can say with certainty about the Ancient Egypt, so it is my point of view that the special silica used in the construction is like the artist's signature on his work. They could have made the pyramids out of anything available here, but no, they chose this very fine substance, which only now we're discovering to be abundant on Mars. To me, The Great Pyramid is the symbol of Mars on Earth.

They are discovering huge cuneiform writtings on Mars, and they claim it might have been formed by water... should we laugh or cry? I can only start to imagine the fantastic things that they have found there and are keeping to themselves.

http://www.calacademy.org/science_now/archive/headline_science/mars_062101.php

Fragments of meteors have been found in and around craters. When they come through the atmosphere, they nomally burn up and you see a shooting star. Some of the big ones get through, but are still exposed to extreme temperatures from the atmosphere. When they collide with the planet, they essentially vaporize with little to find. But there is nearly always geological evidence. Here's a quote from a pretty good article on the subject:

found here: http://www.solarviews.com/eng/tercrate.htm

You can see the impacted rock in the center of some of the craters in the picture of Mercury.
The gravity of the planet pulls on the meteor causing a more direct hit. As it goes through the atmosphere, parts of it burn up, making it more round. When it disintegrates on impact, the force would push outwards from the center causing a round crater.

The thing that makes this a tough one for me is, I don't believe in physical, outerspace aliens. I believe that any aliens or UFO's seen come from inner-dimensions, and it's our beliefs that fill in the outerspace/saucer/alien stuff. Maybe these inner-aliens did help ancient civilizations with knowledge, but did they bring limestone from Mars...

Or, do you mean that humans went to Mars and brought it back?  Or, did I miss the entire picture?

All meteorites and asteroids found to have impacted the Earth are not round enough to account for the structures they supposedly left on Mars, Mercury, and the Moon.


In Mercury we can see holes inside holes, those are not rocks inside the craters. And we still can't explain why the nearly perfect spherical formations nor what happened to 253 Mathilde. After the impact the expanding force of the explosion would create deformed holes, for rocks are made of different particles of different masses.

I mean that they were giants, possibly not humans, maybe from other dimensions, yes, and they brought the amorphous silica from mars to dress the pyramids.

How about this: the meteor penetrates the outer circle of a planet, which makes the magma come out and hide the meteor.
Could be possible.

Magma is found thousands of feet deep under the crust, so it's unlikely.

Thanks for reading. 

So how can we really explain what made them, since it's virtually impossible for a meteor or asteroid to leave a mark like that? Holes don't simply pop out of the ground like grass, something has to actively create it, or induce changes in order for it to be created.