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I have had a few similar experiences. I have not been able to control this and it seems to last only a few seconds, like you have said maybe 30 seconds. This would happen to me very frequently when I was younger. It rarely happen to me now but I did see a scene briefly last night. I will usually see something in nature, like trees and fields. Sorry I cannot answer your questions, but I thought you might like to hear someone else who has experienced similar things.

Wow, humanity survives another 5,000 years. I figured we would have killed our environment and nuked ourselves by then. What is it like 5,000 years from now?

I had a similar experience before. I was laying down on my bed trying to project. The room was bright from sunlight shining in the window so I put a blindfold over my eyes. After awhile of trying without any success I gave up and decided to get up. I opened my eyes and was looking at the ceiling. The light was turned on, which I thought was weird because the sun was so bright. I think realized that I had the blindfold on my eyes and should not be able to see the ceiling at all, at which point everything went black. Sounds similar to your experience to me.

Clearly in my case I was not looking through my physical. It sounds like you were not looking through yours either. This must be astral vision or we were actually projecting close to our bodies.

Wow you have a lot happening to you. I know nothing about what is going on but I might be able to help with remembering dreams. When I was younger I use to have lots of vivid dreams. For some reason I now rarely remember my dreams, and if they are vivid it is even more rare. Well a few months ago I tried something to see if it would help me have a lucid dream. For a few weeks I would tell myself before I went to sleep that I would remember my dreams, I would become conscious in my dreams. Stuff like that over and over a few times. Then when I would start to go to sleep I would try to remain conscious for as long as possible. I would lay there and stare into the darkness kind of like if I am going to project but I did not try to leave my body just remain conscious. Usually I could do this for a few minutes and then I would fall asleep. During this time I had several vivid dreams which I could remember very well. Now I cannot say if it was this that helped or if it was just something that happened. I have not been able to do these things at night when I go to sleep lately because I have been very busy and when I go to sleep I am usually too tired to try and remain conscious. But since I have stopped I have not been able to remember my dreams as well. So it might be something you will want to try.
I wish you luck and hope you can settle this thing.

I very much agree that the media promotes a harmful attitude towards sex. As someone stated they seem to push it off on to us that going without sex for a few weeks is such a terrible thing. They then throw almost naked, good looking people at us. They push this getting laid attitude. I see getting laid as different than what has been discussed here. There are different kinds of sex, some good some harmful. Getting laid is one of the more harmful as it is not about emotion but just getting off with whoever. This for one does not help with our emotional state, in fact it can harm it. This also is physically dangerous as one can get diseases. I find it funny, or disturbing, that the media will tell you to be careful about having sex, then turns around and shows people getting laid with strangers. And that you have to have sex all the time. Now lets look at what is actually being pushed here, lust.
Lust does not go well with the Tao/Tantric practices. Lust is the attraction to the physical flesh. The practices make you concentrate on the energies. So if you are having sex with someone because you think they are hot or just because they make you horny, then it is very difficult to do the energy practices. You are lusting making it hard to move your concentration to the energy. These practices are easiest when done with yourself or with someone you know and care about. I actually find the practices makes me feel even closer to my partner than the usually way.
When I talk about sex, I am referring to the second. I am not talking about the lustful getting laid. I am talking about a healthy, emotional, spiritual and energy act. This is the kind of sex that I think is important, though not necessary, for a healthy life. Again this is not necessary to have a partner. I find this actually helps me when I do not have a partner.

This is a very interesting topic. I never heard of this before.

About traffic:
Unless you live in a small town then traffic is already a problem. Everyone I know has a car. Most kids get cars as soon as they turn 16, atleast in my area. I would say that atleast 90% of the population around me has a car. Traffic should be the least of our worries. Yes it is a problem but with more and more cars on the road pollution should be a major concern. I live close to the Smokie Mountains and pollution can get very bad there with all the tourists. They advise people with asthma (sp?) to stay away during the busy season. So this would work wonders for our environment.

This will most likely never happen. Why? Because as someone stated earlier, once they have sold you one you do not need to get another one for a long time. Unless they can fix it that it will only work for  a short amount of time. This is just like light bulbs, they can and have made light bulbs that will last forever. But this is bad business. Once you have sold someone one then they will not need to buy anymore unless they should have an accident and break it. So they make them so they will only last so many hours.

The government will not be able to regulate or tax this like they can gasoline. Do you know that about 1/3 of the price of gas is taxes, more or less depending on where you live. (This is in the US) Also the politicians get paid a lot of money from the oil companies. Do not tell me that Bush is not in the oil companies pockets. So the government is definately not going to push FE anytime soon, maybe after all the oil has dried up.

Again oil companies do not want this change. Sure they could get the technology and profit from it themselves, but they are making a killing off oil right now so there is no motivation to do so. It is easier to just pay off politicians to stop its progress.

As someone has stated this seems to go agains the laws of physics. Even though it is possible many people do not like change. So they will try to discredit it and keep it down and out of the public eye. All this just so they do not have to question their "natural laws" or change their ways of life.

Maybe after our ecology has collapsed and money does not talk as much then we will see this. But this does not seem to be something that is good for the greedy companies that run our world.

My first OBE happened spontaneously to me. At the time I had no idea what it was. When I did learn what it was a few years later I wanted to experience it again. The main reason I guess was because I was curious as to what had happened to me and what existes beyond this plane. I had always felt that there was more beyond just the physical and I had finally find a way to get beyond it. So for the most part it has been curiousity with a little desire to explore. Recently however a more spiritual aspect has come to it and I now wish to explore for higher meanings, find out more about myself, and develop spiritually.

I think it is in your mind. You probably did not want to show this friend your darker side so you could not bring this personality to the surface. I am not sure if I total understand what you are doing. To me though it just sounds like you are exploring your own personality. You wanted to explore your darker side so you created this personality to do that with, and with this you do not have to deal with the aspects that you do not wish to see at the time.
Another though, this friend sounds like she might be rather spiritually developed. Posibly just by being around her she influences people in a positive manner. She may bring out the better qualities in you thus making you suppress the darker feelings.
I do not believe in demons, other than the ones we create for ourselves. In other words they are just sybolic of the things we see as bad or evil, or the things that we allow to stress us.

Bitsmart, that is a good point which I should have made clear. These practices teach cultivation of energy through sex. Unlike what we commonly think of as sex and orgasms, these teach one to not ejaculate. Ejaculation is a waste of energy unless you are trying to have children. Now for the most part when we have sex we are not trying to have children so why should we ejaculate. And believe me ejaculation and orgasm are two different things which are not connected, we just come to think they are. If men can ejaculate without an orgasm then men should be able to orgasm without ejaculating, right? Ejaculation is not to be seen as something bad though. It is good to ejacutate when you wish to concieve and it is also healthy  to ejaculate every now and then to flush out the system. How often depends on your health and age.

Thank you for posting this information and for the doc. I have not read it yet but am going to start today.

I do not know about Tantric, I assume it is similar to Taoism, but you do not actually have to have sex to experience the benefits. Just working with sexual energy when you feel it generated. When you have a sexual thought, instead of just dismissing it with the energy, work with the engery. Masterbating, though what you do is really not masterbate atleast not in my opinion, can be a big part of this. It allows you to concentrate more on the engeries and working with them than when you are with a partner. This is really the best way to learn until you get control. After you have control then sex with a partner is so much better. Sharing each others energy is very nice. But as far as having lots of sex, no it is not necessary. But lots of practice helps, like with anything else.

(Not sure if this sounds right, it is too early for me right now. Must wake up ... need more coffee.  )

Steve, I am glad things got better between you and your father. Would you mind telling us a little bit about your situation with your sons. Maybe seeing the situation from the point of view of the parent can help us a little here. (And on a personal note I have a baby daughter so I will have to deal with a similar situation in the future I am sure.)

Here is a link to the book I found very helpful in introducing me to Taoist Sex practices. Though it is called The Multi-Orgasmic Man it also has a chapter for women and would be a good read for either sex. I would appreciate anyone else refering books or websites they have found helpful.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0062513362/qid=1022069041/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-3668985-2578368

I strongly suggest anyone with a slight interest in this to learn more as astralc as stated this can totally change your views and open you up to something that makes sex so much more.

I am also a hermit type. I find that I can project best when I am alone. When I was single I spent a lot of time practicing projecting, probably atleast an hour or two each day. This was when I was first learning to project and having all that time to dedicate to the practice really helped. Now i am no longer single and have a 6 month old daughter. Time is something I no longer have much of. And I am very lucky if I can get a moment all to myself to project. Lately I have been projecting with people around. It does not effect me much. If the person  is in the other room not making much noise it is no problem at all to me. If the person is doing something in the same room it can be distracting some times but if they are quiet it is not too bad. Although I perfer to be alone, I find some comfort in knowing that someone is close by incase something should happen on the physical plane so they can take care of my body.

I am really sorry for you. It is such a terrible thing when one cannot express themselves or even practice their own beliefs in their own house. Luckily for me during the time I lived with my parents my beliefs were not too different than theirs. I did not start exploring them until I had left home. But I still do not feel that I can share my beliefs with my parents. They are pretty much hardcore Christains, especailly my dad in recent years. The sad thing is that I would really like to discuss these things with them openly but I know that I cannot do this. The best advice I can give you is to just keep it hiden from them. Most likely your parents still see you as their little child and feel that they know what is best for you. That with the fact that it sounds like they are too wrapped up in their own dogma to be open to other possibilities makes it unlikely that they would ever accept you believing in anything other than their own beliefs. I know that it is tearing you up inside having to hide this, I feel this way too even now being away from home. The only alternative I can see is if you could possibly move out, maybe with several friends or something. Though this would probably upset them even more. Sadly enough the best solution I have found in dealing with stubborn closeminded parents is to remain quiet and let them think you are the prefect little Christain, or whatever they belief. I know this is not what you want to hear but it will keep the peace while you still have to live with them.

And parents wonder why they cannot talk to their children. It is because they do not really want to listen to their children.

I see no reason why you could not project in any position, whether sitting up, laying on your stomach, or hanging upside down (though that might be a little dangerous). Position really has no importance. What is important is that you are comfortable and able to relax. Most people choose to lay down on their backs because this is what is most common for people to relax. It really does not matter though. I have projected while sitting up before, though I do not do this often.

Interesting question. I have found that Real Time (time on the physical plane) and Astral time are not always the same. To understand this, have you had a dream that seemed to last for years? Or live out a lifetime in your dream? You may remember details of the entire time seeming like you experienced these things for such a long period of time, yet you were only asleep for 8 hours (or however long). Likewise on the other end have you had a dream that was rather short but yet seemed last all night? Time really has little meaning on the Astral, from what I have experienced. When you understand this you will understand the irrelevence of your question. I am not trying to say anything bad about the question or you by saying this. I just want you to understand that how long a projection lasts is not as important as how well you actually remember the experience.

Sounds like it was remote view or astral projection to me, or maybe a combo of both. If you read religious texts you will start to see that many of the experiences listed in them are astral projections or something related to them. You have given us a good example. Another one that I can think of is the book of Revelations in the Christain Bible. Read it and I do not see how anyone could say this do not take place on the astral or higher plane.

This is a very interesting topic. To answer one question, sex does seem to be on my mind a lot more than I would like. Sometimes it will just pop in my head from out of nowhere. I guess this could be because in a physical sense all things have the strong impulse to reproduce, humans included. As much as we would like to think we have total control over ourselves this is not entirely true. The physical bodies are still part of physical nature and still obey its laws, and one of the most basic of those laws right after food, air, and shelter is the continuation of the species. Sex is a very natural thing. Unfortunately there are many ideas that humans have brought about trying to make it dirty or abuse of it. Sex is part of who we are, at least while we are on the physical plane (not sure about when we leave here). There is no reason why one should feel conflict in trying to explore their spiritual side and their sexual side. In fact sex can be a very spiritual thing. What other activity do you know of that brings the body and the soul together so well and intensely? If you are remotely experienced with body energy then try using it, moving it around next time you have a sexual experience. The Taoist and Tantric sexual practices do this, though I am not sure about Tantric as I have only studied Taoist. Several years ago I came across a book I think titled The Multi-Orgasmic Man. This book was very enlightening to me. It taught Taoist sexual practices in a very easy to understand modern Western language. After what I have studied I would have to agree that there is energy transfer between those involved in the sexual act, rather they know it or not. Knowing this though greatly enhances the experience making it much more spiritual.

Though one can live without experiencing sex, I think that it is important to living a healthy life. This does not mean that one has to have a partner but experiencing sexual energy can be very healthy. In fact I find I am much more healthier and happier when I experience sexual energy on a regular basis. The Taoist call it cultivating energy as that is really what you are doing. I realize this probably sounds crazy to someone who knows nothing about this topic, but I suggest learning about it as it can be very rewarding.

I am not sure if it is the same thing but I will have these thoughts appear out of nowhere and they are usually negative and contrary to what I would usually think. Thinking about it this use to happen to me a lot when I was younger, but rarely happens now. Actually from my experiences I think I might know a way to help you. Try to build up your concentration. During the day try not to let your mind just wonder off to do whatever. Meditate when you get a chance. Since I have been practicing building my concentration and meditating these "voices" have seemed to stop. I think this holds true because as of late I have not been doing these things so my mind has slipped a little and I noticed one of those thoughts the other day. Try not to give much thought to them when they appear. That seems to give them more weight. At the same time do not get upset when they appear as that also seems to give them weight. When one shows up just let it roll off of you like it is nothing. I have found this seems to help as well.


My thoughts:
Though I am not certain I have read some things recently that might point to what this voices are. They maybe low level spirits trying to distract you. These low level spirits that tend to hand around the physical plane are not every spiritually evolved. They are usually full of hate and anger and try to push their feelings on to those on the physical. But if you do not give them much thought and gain more control over your mind they seem to leave you alone. Seems they like wondering minds as they are easy to contact. A strong mind would easily be able to push them away. These are my thoughts anyway.

On one hand it is nice to know that I am not the only one that has experienced this, on the other I am sorry that another has to experience this as it can be very annoying. I wish you luck.

Feel free to email me if for any reason you feel you need to.

I love to play Basketball and Volleyball. Unfortunately I have not had a chance to play either in a long time.

That is a good ambition. There have been such projects that have given scientic proof that OBE and the paranormal exist. The problem is there are people that just do not want to accept such things as being real, for whatever reason. You can give them evidence beyond a reasonal doubt and they still will try to discredit it. Maybe by the time you are an adult with such a coporation people will be more willing to accept. Just realize that a lot of people can be very unreasonable and close minded so you will have a lot of things to overcome to get the general public to take any information you produce seriously. Good Luck!

Oh ... yeah ... cool

You were there! Good job! It can feel rather weird when you first get out. The feeling is different and if you are not expecting it can be surprising. The first few times I got out I did not really expect it. Then it felt different which kind of freaked me out and I went back into my body. You get use to it pretty quickly though. I would suggest reading up on projecting a little before you try again just so you have an idea and understand what can happen. There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

I just finished reading that as well. Here is what he is trying to say about that. Those that keep a strict idea of the afterlife will cause problems for themself because when they get there and things are not as they should be, well it will just mess them up. These people were so rigid that they would not entertain the idea that it could be any different, then they are suddenly in this place that is not what it should be to them. I also see another angle on this. It could also be that they do go to "heaven" when they die. Only this is not a true heaven but something that is of thoughts. This can lead them astray as they will not see the truth.
Read as much as we can about what the afterlife will help us when we have to face physical death. But as you point out, this can be dangerous as well if it is taken too strictly and do not keep an open mind. The more we read the more we will have an idea of what it can be like to help us adjust better. But I do not think that any words can describe the afterlife so an open mind is helpful.

I do not see where it would matter. It is not really how you do it, but as long as you can do it. Sometimes I find falling is good while other times I like to fly up. If something feels like it is working for you go for it.

Hmm ... I do not know what a breadroll is either. Something that I think about is that the chakra is a flower opening up and blooming. Imagine each petal unfolding. I hope this helps.