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Thanks Zante.  I have had two absolutely fantastic OBEs so I suppose I have a point of reference.  But from what I know so far, the consciousness leaves the body every time we sleep.  Most times, it's hovering just above the body, sometimes further away - and it depends on how lucid we are for us to remember the events after awakening. That's my understanding anyway. 

hello? anyone?

One reason I posted this is because, though on the face of it it sounds personal and a little nightmarish, I have read that not all OBEs are happy ones - and I was mostly awake in this one, so it certainly wasn't a nightmare.  I suppose we have to go through the tough bits too, as part of the journey 

Ok that said, does anyone have any experience of manifesting events in the astral plane through thought? I think that's the main question. 

Thanks.

After days of practice and attempts to project, this morning I managed to go to sleep and gain semi-consciousness on the astral plane.

Just before I projected though I had been thinking about my ex boyfriend who suggested the day before about meeting up after several years.  So I'm not sure if I attracted this being, or manifested a scene with my thoughts, but this etheric being who very much looked like my ex who could be my ex's consciousness itself came into my vision as soon as I became conscious. He moved right next to my left side, lying down in bed facing me, his big hand across my chest.  I knew I was conscious but couldn't decide what to make of this being - was he a figment of my imagination?  He looks big and healthy but I was afraid of looking at his back in case it's not what he looks like in front.  What if he's not human at all?  I wanted to get away, so I moved my energy towards my crown chakra - he slowly but purposely moved his hand and held my head, and I couldn't get out.  Then I moved my energy towards my right side and I was almost out, but his hand held me on the side too and I felt trapped, and very desperate.  He had sexual thoughts and was just waiting for my telepathic agreement.  I was confused - I wasn't sure if he was a bad spirit attached to me, or whether I'm having a nightmare.  I stated to the Universe that I wanted him gone but he was still there. But I suddenly realised that if I really put my mind to it, I could leave my body. Then I asked myself, would I really leave my body alone when I know it's not safe for it to be without my consciousness - when there's an astral being right next to my body? No, absolutely not. I have a responsibility to my body.  Then I woke up.  It has been a bit disturbing but can anyone identify with this?  I am going to do some cleansing of my room.  Does anyone else have any tips?

Thank you
Venus

Seems to me you are becoming aware of your energy.  Next step is to know how to use it, and how to use the natural energy around you, in order to achieve your goal.  It requires a lot of practice as well as a good understanding of the astral plane.  Your opennenss to learn is a main factor for your success.  There are lots of books out there about OBEs...

Good luck
Venus

Hi there newbie,

I am new to this forum myself, but am currently on a consciousness development course and have had two fully conscious recent OBEs.  So I'll try and answer your questions the best way I can.

Re lucid dream vs OBE

I know it's confusing to have so many terms for this phenomena but it is all a question of the level of 'lucidity'.   Your ability to have an out of body experience depends on how lucid you are.  For example you could have a semi-lucid dream where you are aware that you are dreaming but you're not entirely in control.  On the other hand, you could find yourself fully lucid following a semi-lucid dream, which means you are in total control, and can make logical decisions, sense and interact with others just as in your waking state (even more effectively).  Saying this, some dreams remain just dreams produced by the physical brain and not your astral consciousness.  This is when the brain 'defragments' just as computers do, to clear out unwanted information.

Time travel

When you are out of your body, you could go back in time, to your past reincarnations.  Remember there is no space-time element on the astral plane.  Everything is in the NOW. The future also exists as several 'possiblities' and is not set in stone.  This is because we have free-will and can shape our future the way we want it.  In an OBE, you could see a possiblity but you are able to change it if you want to.  One more thing I want to say on this is that, I personally believe that our purpose for a visit back in time or forward, or anywhere has to somehow help us in our evolution.  Unless there is a good reason and a lesson in it, our own consciousness and helpers don't simply obey our wish to do anything we want out of sheer curiosity or fun.

As to being real, once you are able to distinguish which one is a dream and a lucid dream and work on increasing your level of lucidity, you will know which plane is real and which one isn't.  As I said above, I have experienced two very real OBEs, so much so that I'm now wondering if our life on Earth is real. 

Finally, I'd just like to point out that a lot of people reject these ideas and discourage others because of lack of knowledge.  I suggest to you to read and learn from professionals.  Go to an established college, read books, and talk to experienced people. There are quite a few experienced astral projectors on this forum so you could learn from them too.

Welcome and good luck with your astral journey

Venus
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hello, I'm glad you had a pleasant experience. I know how good it feels when you've come back to your body.

Only you know the truth as you are the one who had the experience.  Other people can share their thoughts to help you, but it's up to you to pick and choose which one feels right.  I go to an established college that shares its research findings, but encourages people to have their own experiences as that's the best way to learn.

Based on this principle, I will share my thoughts on your experience.  It seems to me that you were in the astral plane and not on Earth.  From what I've learned in my college and Waldo Vieira's book that I'm reading now, I am aware that there are various colonies of consciousnesses (spirits) everywhere on the crust and on the spheres of the planet, who are still living out their previous lives - celebrating their old holidays, fighting old wars again, etc etc.  These consciousnesses either refuse to believe or are unaware that they have passed away, and are recreating their past lives.  There are some colonies that are much more enlightened and have schools for those who want to develop, and hospitals for the sick ones.  For us Earthlings, when have OBEs, we are mostly guided by helpers (spirit guides) to experience something that would help us in our evolution - and a trip to any of these colonies is just one option.  When I have an OBE or even a dream, I ask myself 'what is the lesson in this'.  Focus on strong emotions, any surprises, and whatever drew your attention, and listen to the voice within. There's would definitely be something there for you. 

Hope this helps

Venus
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Lily and Whitehawk, thanks for your thoughts.  You've given me some new ideas and some are in alignment with mine - so a great help - thanks.

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Thanks RJA

Dear all

I've now had some time to think about my second OBE, but I still find so much of it puzzling.  If you can relate to any of this or are able to share your insight, then I'd very much like to hear it.

29 March 08: lying on my side, I quickly dozed off and just as quickly woke up on the other side.  There was a semi-lucid dream episode which I'm not sure had anything to do with what happened next.  My attention was drawn to a candle holder (which I normally keep in the bathroom).  It was sitting on a chair, but then it started moving by itself.  It would slide off the chair, stay suspended in air, and back on it. Over and over.  I was fascinated by this and as I was looking at it, I had an idea - I could do this too!  So I started concentrating on it, and 'took over' the movements using my thought.  I had another idea, why don't I change this item into a white ball and transfer my consciousness into it.  The candle holder transformed into a white ball and I sent a lot of energy into the white ball - until I was all in.  (All this seemed natural to me at the time.) Then I rolled into a dark place with a white centre, the only think I could see.  I was moving very fast and the white centre was changing shape - it's then that I realised I was in a tunnel, and the white centre is the exit at the other end.  I wasn't comfortable and I wanted to come back.  But I was speeding in this tunnel and something told me it's not that easy/instantaneous.  Next thing I know I was out in a dusty desert like place. Still flying at full speed over people, through houses, until I came to a sudden stop inside an ancient dusty red building.  All I could see was the corner I was in and the wall, which was not vertical, it was diagonal.  I sense presence in the building but I didn't turn around to see anyone.  I asked myself, am I in a pyramid?  Then I was back in my body.

Questions: someone got my attention with the candle holder, and they did a pretty good job.  If it was my helper, why is he/she invisible?
I think it's amazing how I transferred all my energy into a white ball, and that it seemed to come naturally to me.  Is that the sort of thing we learn when we go to astral schools?  If so why can't we bring that knowledge to Earth and our physical bodies.  God knows we need it!
Why did I feel fear in the tunnel?  Could it be my physical conditioning that 'dark places' are negative?  Or are they to be feared 
Do I have to use the ball and tunnel techniques whenever I want to visit places on Earth?  Or is it one of the techniques?  if you know of others, please tell!
I sensed presence in the pyramid, why couldn't I see anyone?  It's like I wasn't allowed to see anyone's faces.
Why such a short visit?  I'd have liked to walk around inside the pyramids.  (a few days ago I was attempting to project into the Sphinx - soooo close!)

Ok, if anything comes to your mind, please share.

Thanks!!

Hey Milk, from what I read, it's a station for the galatic federation or a 'united nation of the universe or universes'.  It used to be a natural planet revolving around a sun in a galaxy until its inside was hollowed out and turned into a giant spaceship and taken out of its orbit.  Now it travels freely around the universe, thanks to advanced technology, with its residents both inside and outside the surface.  The residents are representatives from all corners of the universe, as diverse as the Earth itself, and their aim is to help less evolved beings in their spiritual awakening.  It has been said for some time now that they are focussing on Earth and are very close to us. I personally think that people get confused because they expect to see a purpose built spacecraft, and Nibiru is a planet bigger than Earth which also serves as a spaceship ...

Hope that helps.  There's so much more on the internet.  Just google Nibiru.

Thanks both.  If you're wondering why I'm asking about the name is because, when I got there, the name 'St John' came to my mind.  Ok, let's see if anyone else remembers anything... 

Hi, sorry I forgot to ask - do you recall a name for this school?

Hey CF, this is interesting.  I know that a lot of people have memories of going to school.  But the reason I specifically highlighted this one is because I became aware that it's a large respected educational institution which has lots of students - most probably projected consciousnesses like ourselves.  If this assessment is correct, most of us should remember being there either as a dream or OBE.  Before I knew anything about OBE, I used to think it was a recurring dream, and I specifically remember being there with a friend I had then (on the physical plane).  In my recent OBE, it was clear as daylight and I instantly knew it was for real.  (I am trying to figure out which one is real - our life on Earth or on the astral plane?  I feel a bit like Neo in Matrix.)

Thanks Predawn.  Yes it helps.

Also just to say that I have drawn a picture of this astral university I saw in this projection and would like to check if anyone recognises it.  It should be bigger that what it looks on the drawing, probably a 2-3 storey building.  Please check if you've seen it:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/have_you_seen_this_building_in_your_astral_travels-t27612.0.html

thanks.

Venus

This is a beautiful stone building (sorry, can't draw stones with Paint) - it looks small with its narrow front but it's actually a very long and big educational institution.  It is set in the centre of a massive, very well maintained park, giant trees all around it - almost hiding the building until you get close (again, I'm limited to what I can do with Paint) and there's a pool in front (not swimming pool).  If you venture further out behind the building there's a lovely river and big rocks....  Does it ring a bell?

It doesn't always work.  But you could construct a portal that you use specifically like a transportation device to send you to specific destinations.  You can decorate it with sigils or symbols that you find appropriate and that remind you of astral travel.  Whenever you want to go somewhere,, just look into your portal and visualize the place you want to go inside.. then step through..

Hi lily, I had another OBE this morning and I went through a portal (dark tunnel with light at the end).  It wasn't entirely a pleasant journey, I felt fear and I wanted to come back to my body but something/someone told me I'm venturing out a little further this time so it's not that easy or automatic. Anyway, I ended up in this desert-like place, flew over people, above and through houses, and stopped inside an old dusty monument with slanted walls.  I think I was in a pyramid, and I have a feeling I was in Cairo.  I'm still digesting it, but just wanted to say that I did go through a tunnel/portal and was most probably on Earth this time round.  Thanks again for the tip.

Venus

Thank you Grey, that's very helpful.

Has anyone gone through this?

One day after an amazing fully conscious projection, I felt very much like Marlee Matlin in 'What the bleep do we know'.  The bit when she started loving herself, that is. I was very emotional about finally getting to know myself, every aspect of myself.  I think that's what got me, that there are many facets of me, not one not two, but three or more, that I never knew existed, or proved to exist.  How could I have not known myself all this time? I could go on... but I just wanted to ask if anyone can identify with this.

Thank you for your replies in advance.

the astral block, that is 

I've posted a couple of questions already but it's never too late to introduce myself.  First off, I'm sooooo pleased to find this site.  The whole OBE thing has come to my life exactly at the right time, and proves to me yet again that "the teacher will arrive, when the student is ready".  So thanks for putting this site together.  The road to enlightenment could be quite a lonesome one, so it's nice to have people to share experiences with.

I hope to stick around, make friends and help each other out with our goals...

best wishes

I've now had a fantastic OBE, and I guess I know what the 'swaying' energy is.  So ignore this question.

Thank you for your response Lily.  But not sure what you mean by a transportation device.. 

Hi all

Question to experienced astral projectors:

I had my first fully conscious OBE this morning. Yay! I was on a consciousness development course yesterday when I was trying to go to Hyde Park but was unable to.  However, this morning I found myself in the astral plane, and the first thing I thought of was Hyde Park.  I did go to a park, rather a massive garden around a University that I used to go to - in the astral plane.  The building was very familiar, and I was hiding on top of the trees.  I didn't want to get any closer as someone might recognise me. So I turned back and said to myself go to Hyde Park.  I didn't know how to, and was frustrated. Then came back to my body - consciously sliding into it.  (i'm still filled with awe) Now, my question how can I locate an Earthly place when I'm in the astral plane?  I have a feeling I'll end up in places in the astral plane when my intention is to visit people and places on Earth. 

Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for your thoughts.

I'll definitely check out this new book.  I read The Power of Now a few years ago.  It put me in a totally different state of mind.  Suddenly Earth was Heaven.  I could walk down the road and feel awe and love for every living thing.  I specifically remember being surprised that the usual 'judgement' of people's physical appearance had completely gone. Instead, I was looking at highly sophisticated beings on the street. It was a beautiful state of being.  Then I came back down to earth.  I'll read this new book, hopefully it will send me back to that heavenly state - thanks for recommendation.

Hello Astral People!  So nice to find a place where you all hang out! Yipee!

Well, I'm just starting out on this journey.  I've been on a course at IAC in London (Int'l Academy of Consciousness) and I'm hooked on the whole AP thing.  I've been practicing the exercises - sending energy out and absorbing and then vibration state.  Now I'm not sure how well I'm doing, but I sometimes have a buzzing feeling around my body, like my awareness is on something surrounding me, and sometimes like I'm swaying in a wave of water.  The other day my head 'buzzed' so much it felt like someone was emptying it (don't know how to describe it) - really lightheaded.  Ok, what's happening? Should I see the good ole doc? 

Any comments and tips on how I can advance in this would be much appreciated.