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#201
Greetings and welcome Maik6193
Two great assets usually needed to get out of body are patience and determination. It might take several weeks before that first OBE happens so try to stay positive and keep at it!

Good luck  :-)
Grey
#202
Hello Snaipers
What you described sounds like an OBE. Especially because you felt vibrations. Those vibrations usually happen just before an OBE begins.
The other possibility is that you had a false awakening . (A false awakening is where a person believes that they are awake but are really still in a dream.) I think that the false awakening is very unlikely, however, and that you probably did have an OBE.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#203
Greetings and welcome virillon
Flying in a dream (or lucid dream) Is a lot of fun!  :-D

Regards
Grey
#204
Hello and welcome Sebastian7
Flying dreams can be a lot of fun. Lucid dreams of flying are even better. What is best of all is flying during an OBE, that is truly amazing!

Regards  8-)
Grey
#205
Greetings jaynong and welcome to AstralPulse.
After Death Communications (ADC) can occur during an out of body experience or astral projection. ADCs can also happen during dreams and even during waking moments. I suggest looking at some of the topics in the "Welcome to the Astral FAQ" forum. There you can find several OBE induction methods. There are also many concepts and terms in those threads that are frequently used in the discussion forums.

Sincerely
Grey
#206
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: hi
September 18, 2012, 14:40:29
Greetings and welcome Gem28
Lets hope that you find much of interest here and stay awhile.

Regards  :-)
Grey
#207
Hello superoscillator
Tunnel experiences are somewhat rare but are not very unusual. What Is quite rare is being able to see an energy grid. I have read a few OBE reports of energy grids (Robert Bruce was able to see energy grids or matrixes on several higher level/dimensional astral travels). So you are fortunate to have had these experiences.

Regards
Grey
#208
Greetings justin35ll
I can empathize with your situation as I have lost MANY OBEs due to bad recall. It's a shame to wake up with an excited feeling knowing that an important OBE happened during the night but then be unable to recall anything except only small fragments. Unfortunately it Does happen.
About the flying difficulties. Maybe you are trying too hard. Begin the flight by standing at the top of some stairs or on a wall. Then just levitate up a few feet and float above the ground for a few seconds. Then gradually increase height and speed. That will help you focus and should work most of the time.

Good Luck  :-)
Grey
#209
Hello todd421757
Yes that is a pretty extensive list. On several occasions I have managed to get out of body using methods
3) Forwards
8 ) Upwards or vertical
9) Rolling to the right or left side and
12) Sitting up.
#9 the "roll out" method may be the most popular way to get OOB.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#210
Hello AstralCody
The answer that Bordmb provided, that of RTZ reality fluctuations, in most likely the correct one. However it could be that you were in a special Belief System Territory (BST) on the Moon. This would mean that nonphysical beings, probably physically dead humans, currently reside on that area of the Moon. Some of these nonphysical beings could have been American (or Central America) Indians in a past life and they may have erected nonphysical statues and other structures in the area that they currently inhabit.

Just a thought  :-o :-D
Grey
#211
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: Hi
September 13, 2012, 15:09:36
Welcome and greetings shokan
There are Many techniques for becoming lucid in a dream. Some of those methods may be found here in the "Welcome to Dreaming" forum. Another very good site for learning the techniques of lucid dreaming is www.dreamviews.com

Good luck  :-)
Grey
#212
Welcome to Members Introductions! / Re: newbie
September 10, 2012, 15:33:10
Hello and welcome sammyl178
One of the first things that you might want to do here is to read several threads in the "Welcome to Astral FAQ" forum as that will get you up to date with many of the ideas and terms that we use in the forums here.

Cheers  :-)
Grey
#213
Hello daddyshome
Recently I read (and replied to) a post on another website by a person who had a similar experience to yours. This person had been getting out of body for many years and had never had a negative or violent encounter before. (Although he Had seen other beings when out of body all of the encounters were friendly or neutral). And then a few weeks ago he was attacked by an astral dog.
Both his experience and yours strengthen my belief that such negative and violent encounters Do happen from time to time during OBEs. And, while Yes, there are people who have had hundreds, or even thousands, of OBEs without ever having a negative encounter, most people Do eventually have such experiences if they have a lot of OBEs.
I have had several violent encounters (2 with astral dogs, a couple with discarnate people and one or two with non-human, non-animal creatures). Yet this is many more than most people and is only a small percentage (maybe about 5%) of all my out of body experiences.
Overall such negative experiences account for only about 1 % of all OBEs. See my Informal OBE Survey at http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_5_a_through_f-t24931.0.html

Regards  8-)
Grey
#214
Hello PeaceandLove
That first OBE Is a special experience! Hopefully that was just one of what will be many more to follow.

Regards
Grey
#215
Welcome to the forums spirited away
If you have not already done so I recommend that you read some of the threads in the "Welcome to Astral FAQ" forum as it contains many of the concepts and phrases we use in the discussions here.

Regards  :-)
Grey
#216
Greetings and welcome gregus01
Patience is the most important asset in trying to induce an OBE. Most people can Not get out of body during their first few weeks of efforts. It takes Most people a month or more before they achieve their first OBE. So try not to get discouraged if nothing happens for awhile and stay at it. Because continued effort is often rewarded with success!

Regards  8-)
Grey
#217
Skrylar
I have never read or heard of any allegations of fraud against either Meek or O'neil. Can you provide any references of these fraud allegations as I would be interested in reading them.

Regards
Grey
#218
Greetings Helmet987
You managed a partial OBE on those 3 occasions. This indications that you were very close to a full blown OBE and Are capable of getting out of body.
One alternate method is to go out of body after becoming lucid in a dream. Becoming lucid is relatively easy (there are many different methods). Once lucidity is achieved it becomes a matter of drawing the consciousness back out of the dream and separating that consciousness from the physical body into the immediate area (usually the bedroom). (BTW I have managed to get out of body several times from a lucid dream.)

:-)
Grey

#219
Greetings Astral-Trea and welcome
Both lucid dreaming and OBEs can be frustrating at times. They occur when you don't really need them and won't happen when you try to induce them. Eventually though patience and persistent pays off. Just be aware that it does take most people several months of effort before achieving their first OBE. (It took me about 6 months btw). It has taken some people as long as a year or more (and one person reported his first OBE after 6 years of trying!) So try to be patient and stay with it!

Good Luck  :-)
Grey
#220
Hello Skrylar
Regarding the Worlditc.com website. If you have not done so I suggest that you check out the audio recordings made by George Meek and William O'neill on the Spiricom device. Truly amazing!  :-o If these tapes cannot convince a person of the survival of consciousness after physical death then nothing else will.
BTW I like your idea of trying to record an out of body person's voice on an ITC device. Maybe that could be a future project here at astralpulse (or at another website).

Regards  8-)
Grey
#221
Hello AstralCody
10 OBEs in one night, even if short OBEs, is quite impressive. I managed that feat only once when I was OOB 6 times in one night. The duration of an OBE often depend on prior intention. If you can remember something important to do while out of body then it becomes easier to get out (of the houses) and about (doing whatever it is that you want to do). This usually increases the time out of body and improves the quality of the experience.

Regards  8-)
Grey
#222
Greetings
Skrylar you asked
QuoteIf the planes are real, projection is not a complicated dream of the subconscious, then shouldn't there be some degree of danger?

Yes, IMO, there should be a degree of danger in Any nonphysical realm/plane. Here's why - If we accept the supposition that the human consciousness survives physical death largely intact (which I do BTW) then it follows that people who were negative, violent and destructive while alive in the physical continue to be negative, violent and destructive in any plane/realm that they inhabit in the afterlife.
To me this seems to be a straightforward and easy to understand proposition. Granted one Does need to accept that the human consciousness survives physical death. And yet if this is the case why would one expect the nazis, or revolutionary communists or murderous gangsters to be any different in the afterlife than they were in physical life? They all remain the same as far I can tell. Consciousness probably does evolve, but slowly over long periods of time. Destructive behaviour does Not immediately end following the survival of physical death.
That is the way that I see it, anyway.

Sincerely  8-)
Grey
#223
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Why?
August 29, 2012, 14:50:42
Greetings Bedeekin.
It's good to see you posting here.
First of all I concur with your assessment that many people Are obsessed with demons and evil creatures (or 'negs' as the current lingo has it). Some people do have a compulsive fear of the astral (and other nonphysical) states. IDK why this is, maybe its a religious thing with many people. Also the fear of the unknown must influence many peoples thinking.
But I should also add that I Have experienced a few negative and hostile encounters while out of body and I am not a religious person in any way. This includes, Yes, an encounter with a dragon!
There follows a section of my Informal OBE Survey detailing all the many creatures, both good, bad and neutral, that people have reportedly encountered during their OBEs (and NDEs). Of course I cannot vouch for these reports other than to add that my intuitive feeling is that Most people were honest in that they Believed they had encountered these beings and were not fabricating or exxagerating their accounts. And it Does make for fascinating reading.

Part 4 Unfamiliar Person(s) and Being(s)

People who have had an Out of Body Experience frequently report seeing unfamiliar people, either incarnate-physical or discarnate. They also report encounters with discarnate beings and creatures. This section examines the frequency and type of those encounters.
Unfamiliar Person(s) or Being(s)  13,795 OBEs (27.3%)
Discarnate(s)  9,919  (19.7%) Person(s)  1,473 (2.9%)
Spirit guide(s)   397             Spirit hinderer(s) (Negative entities) 90
God  110         Jesus  131
Alternate Family (in alternate universe) 2   The "Blue Ones" 1
Angel(s)  161         Alien(s)  282
Ancients  1               Animal(s)  133+      Animal discarnates 301
Archangels  10 (Michael 6, Rafael 1, Gabriel 3)   Buddha  5    Brownies 2  (Disc)
Celebrities  13  (All discarnate)  (Rita Hayworth, Orson Welles, Jimi Hendrix, John Ritter, Alfred Hitchcock, Albert Einstein, James Joyce, Steve Irwin, Mozart, Edgar Cayce, Robert Monroe, Elvis Presley)
Creatures-discarnate  1,194 (2.3%)  Crystal Man   1
Deity   43 (Inc Ra, Nuit, Anubis, Ullr 11, Yama 5, Indra, Brahma, Thor, Kali, Thoth 2)
Demon(s)  81        Satan – the Devil  12
Dragon(s)  (Disc) 26   Dwarves  2  (Disc)
Elemental(s)  57  including 14 Thought Elementals    Dream Discarnates 3
Elves 20 (Disc inc 10 DMT Elves)      Faeries  19 (Disc)
Gargoyle(s)  6 (Disc)    Genie(s)  2
Ghoul(s)  4 (Disc)      Giant(s)  (Disc) 1
Gnomes (Disc) 2      Goblins (Disc) 1
Gremlins (Disc) 5      Grim Reaper  13
Helpers (Disc) 122     Historical  (Disc) 1
Imps 3 (Disc)       Incubus  13
Krishna  2               Light being(s) 119
Lords of Amenti  1          Medico(s) 450
Men In Black (MIB) 1   Old Souls  1
Orbs  62         Oversoul 1
Phoenix  (Disc) 1      Pixies  (Disc) 2
Princess Diana (Disc) 1   Prophets (inc Moses) 1
Religious 12 (Mary Magdalene 1, Madonna 1)
Saints 5 (inc. John the Baptist 2, Saint Peter 4 and St Pierre 1)
Shadow Person(s)  25   Shapeshifter(s)  (Disc) 42 
Shiva  1                  Skeleton(s)  13 (Disc)
Soul Group  13      Soul Mate  5
Sphinx  (Disc) 1               Sprites (Disc)  3
Stone People  (Disc) 1   Sucubus  4
Titans  (Disc)  2      Trolls  (Disc) 2
Unicorns  5 (*) (Disc)   Vampire(s)  16 (Disc = astral)
Virgin Mother  9      Voice(s)  709 (1.3%)
Werewolves (Disc) 3   Witches  15 (Disc)
Wraith(s)  1      Zombie(s)  (Disc)  6
Other  5  (Aslan, Morfesa, Queen Akasha, Morgath and a mummy)
Unsure  177

http://astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_survey_report_part_4_unfamiliar_persons_and_beings-t24920.0.html

Regards
Grey
#224
Greetings all
Bedeekin, Catsmeow and Vorgerle
Regarding Susan Blackmore. This person is an enigma to me. Many years ago she used to be very open-minded, even supportive, about OBEs and NDEs. Now she seems to be a rabidly close-minded skeptic. Even to the point of creating absurd and ridiculous theories to explain away well reported phenomena. So at some point (I conjecture) she must have had some epiphany (or anti-epiphany) that convinced her that all OBEs and NDEs were but delusions> (?)  :| :?

Regards  :-)
Grey
#225
Hello Astral-Trea
In response to your question
QuoteSo if these were obes, why would he see his brother who was not home and other inaccurate things?
Not all astral or ethereal counterparts of physical world locations are exact replicas. There are usually at least a few objects out of place, maybe in the wrong location or not there at all or maybe extra items added where none should be. Robert Bruce has termed such inconsistencies "Reality fluctuations".
ObewanaBe's brother May have been the creation of ObewanaBes mind, maybe a dream character. I'm not saying for sure that's what happen but it Is a possibility.

Regards  8-)
Grey