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Hello Nay
I think it's just the connection between our physical body and consciousness. What the body fills or experiences while we are asleep is interpreted into our dreams. I would in my dream hear a loud noise and think it to be part of the dream but in the physical it was my alarm clock. but hey there are other explanations and I'd like to see them []
Take care Nay []
krome

Hello Zebrima
Interesting dream, I dont know if you can astral phase  but it would be worth a try. keep us updated .
The only planet I've seen while attempting astral projection had dark green rolling clouds.As I pasted  my vision was not as clear as my astral visions usely are, although not my imagination but not as vivid. I do have one question about the tenth planet, if it is in a large orbit around our sun how is life mantained in deep space without warmth from the sun ?
Think deep, fly high []
krome

Hello Nay
I think dreams about hands are to do with our life path/ spirituality
or our control in life in general. I think this for at least three reasonse 1: palm reading, our life is there to see.
2:The hands were cut off ppl as punishment for crimes, taking away their power . Another is written in the Bible about the statue of daygon whose power was taken away by cutting of it's hands among other things to disenpower it in front of it's followers.
3: I had a lucid dream that started within the country side and walking along a dirt road. I was with someone else and as we walked hooded negs surrounded us. Before us was a bright blazzing  ball of purple fire. Within my heart I thought the  purple ball to be my protector/salvation I rised my hand and felt a warm glow in the palm but didn't look, I turned to the other person and said "just believe".As I spock I senced he didn't. As the hooded negs over came him  I turned back to the purple fire and walked into it. The dream ended there. It was the restart to my spiritual awakening   and I later learnt purple to be the colour of the Holy spirit (as viewed by the born again church I was going to).
People should have their own view on all that is posted and I hope you find something from mine .[]
Take care Nay
krome

Hello Tia
I would like to say thank you to all the people who have replyed to your post, interesting and helpful [].
Tia I asked myself simular questions along time ago ,like whats the point of life and who really cares if I die. The answers I came up with might not help you or anyone that reads my post as they were my own answers for my own life. Tia close your eyes, what is there in the darkness....your thoughts, a connection to your physical body. Ask yourself why open my  eyes again ..ever. Is this like death until I come back as someone else?
What matters is you want to open your eyes to experience this life, your body demands attention your mind questions and seachers for answers  your spirit is  compaled to interact now not later! or keep them closed if you can and deny everything that matters to you. I hope this is helpful, it has helped me to understand some undeniable truths to why I am.You did ask for our opinions but your opinion matters mostly to you, we can only take an interest in your journey, and I think by all the replys you should be grateful of this fact.
Good luck in finding the answers.[]
Paul

hi you might want to try Donna's technique http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2315
I tryed it and had a great experience. I to see the strob lights often. Finding whats works best  for me as I try different techinques I am thankful for Donna's post.
Good luck []

[]Hello Celestial I'll join too....umm at intermediate I think. Anyway I'll keep you posted[] bye for now []

Hello Links Shadow I too use breathing meditation and mental imagery to work on my energy and chatra's. This brings a physical sensation to my body and spirit. Then I use a fixative to stay aware and observe without wondering thoughts. I hope this helps in some way good luck[]

umm  Fat turkey I haven't read the A.dynamices on this site yet or the techniques that most people refer to so I am naive, but with the  possative posts about it, I'm sure your efforts will pay off soon. I have awaken in dreams many times into the astral realms and real time astral flying around my mothers house... or I should really start to think of those as OBE'S. It wasn't until I found Sweet Celestial Sounds msn home page that I started actively  practising OBE/astral projection , that was seven weeks ago  and I'm lucky to have so many new experiences in such a short time. Sadly he no longer has the home page so I guess you all have my attentchion as I look for guidance and cofirmation to my experiences.thanks again Fat Turkey for your help.[]

Lyn thank you for replying I'm so glad you have experienced this too I didn't wont people thinking I made it up and I'm very encourage by your experiences thank you []

fat turkey I am sorry if I got the wrong impression from your reply but as you might know OBE's and the astral plans are topics that most people think is occult(in ignorance) or wiered so finding a forum to share and gain knowledge about what we are experiencing is important to me.  Thank you for taking the time to reply and good luck with your experiences []

I don't not if your trying to funny FT.  I posted my experience to see if anyone else has come across it and how  they have learned from the experience. I would have thought a forum with open minded and expereinced people could answer my simple question. I will draw some comfort from the fact that I have experienced something  rare and maybe post indepth on it as I gain more knowledge by experience.
I maybe a new member here and I do like reading most of the post/replys of other members as they are helpful and bring to light some interesting views/opinions. FT can you give a more indepth reply or reframe from replying altogether....just a thought!!

Kakkarot great post as it draws attention to a common human flaw. In my opinion we do not focus on the present and are not fully aware of what we are doing right at this moment, eg: while typing this I'm thinking of what to do after I log off.There   is much insight to your post as the replys have brought some to light, do you think you might be recieving these thoughts from your higher self...just an idea and please do post more as they come you []

p.s no need to change your avatar[]

Thanks Greytraveller I didn't know that people claim auras to be blue. Interesting concept seeing my own  aura but it was compacted within my body around my consciouness, perhaps that is my I could see it. great input thanks[]

Thanks Kakkarot for your reply[]
I haven't thought of attacking it or moving away from it because I thought it was part of me ,
simular to the aura. Next time I'm in this situation I will try moving deeper into myself but
very slowly I don't really want to see all my internal organs, if that is even possible. The
clarity of vision of the inside of eye lids makes me a little nervous. I might try moving up and
through my crown chakra or skip all the sensations of leaving my body and go for intent of
destination. As this has happened twice on my last successful attempts at AP / OBE I think it
is a progression and not really a brick wall to over come. To be honest the idea of being an
orb of blue light travelling around in realtime OBE or into the astral realms  is kind of cool.
I'm not sure if I can proceed to deeper levels/ focus harder as I fill I have succeed in
separation and are now looking for ways to explore this exciting state of freedom.
Thanks again Kakkarot  you have given me some ideas  to investigate.[]

Hello the dot you see can be a way to have an OBE. I'm reading an online book by Robert Paterson and he uses the dot in one of his techniques. Hope that helps... I'm sure if we can post links but message me a I will gladly give it to you.
good luck
p.s at the end of this chap: is an exercise using the light.
http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap15.html

hello just a quick discripion of my encounter Within an astral realm  very vivid and long astral stay.At one point I was walking and came across a squashed lizard 'green' and diffiently squashed it's tongue
was sticking out, anyway I reached down and touched it and it came to life and scanter off.Thanks for the topic and other experiences posted.