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Oooo, I feel that you have stumped me or that I am misinterpreting [][|)] what you have written.

The issue I am having is with your next to last sentence.  Do you mean that they can use NLP to kind of tweak around with our minds, since it is tapping into some pretty heavy stuff?  And when they are doing it on a mass scale it can be very effective, since it is shifting a huge portion of consciousness or unconsciousness in a certain direction?  So, Billy Bob down the street doesn't have to feel any resistance when his mind is pushed in a new direction because the larger thing that his mind is a part of is moving with him.  

I have a feeling that I have missed the point though.  Really, I've only had the 5 minute beginners explaination on NLP so far.  My initial reaction to it was that it was indeed a very powerful tool and like any tool its effects can vary greatly depending on who is using it.

[:I] I must gain a better control over my sentence structure and placement.  I am not slamming my head into a wall of integration, instead by thinking that I needed to get rid of these things that I am doing I was slamming into a wall.

Hrm, progress...  That is a concept I have been having difficulties with.

Yes, I do see what the news is doing.  I'm actually at the point where it is difficult for me to watch any television.  I feel like I am being violated.  It is not always that extreme, but after not watching much of any tv for 2 years, I now have a deffinite idea of what it does to you.

I did not see Bill Maher, and I was ignorant as to what NLP is up until 10 minutes ago.

The bamboo stick returns to the side of my head for the second time this day. [B)]  Just as well, I needed it.  

Yes, I have been thinking more in the terms of absence than integration.  I thought I would be better off without certain things like criticizing myself, but alas...
This train has been sitting at the station for a long time now...  I've been seeing these things, but I have been unable to move on.  Integration you say...  Hrm, no wonder I've been feeling like I have been slamming my head into a wall.

Thank you for the excellent informative post.  And here I go again not taking its advice and stopping to criticise my words.  Indeed, it is something I have been trying to work on and that many would do well to tune into.  However, here I go again.  It will come and I will have the hang of it and all I got to do is not let my ego tell me no no no

Haha, and at the end I will cover my tracks, so to speak, and say that I have no idea what I'm talking about  [}:)]

Neo Schiavo,

When I became aware of my chakras, I did very little energy work.  I rarely do any energy work, except recently I have been doing yoga.  But for almost the past two years I have had 3rd eye activity almost all the time.  Or if I'm not having any I just have to feel for it and it is there.  When I meditate or get into a trance I do hear chatter that is not my own or any one I recognize.  I also sometimes see people I do not know.  I've always have attributed this to entering a dream state.

I would like to know what else you have to say on this.

SmileySpirit,

Wonderful name  There you go.  Create what you are.  Look at how you are creating the pressure of your reality.  You are freaked out that this is your last chance to make it through and that is an enormous weight to have upon your shoulders.  

For me, it is interesting to see in your philosophy that you believe that we have 3 chances to make it into heaven.  That's 2 more than the modern Christian church would allow us.  Well, now I notice that in your post 3 was just an example number.  Why stop at that.  God must be eternal... he has all the time in the world for you and his love is unconditional...  Even those statements are too limiting for what God Is.  But that's just another way of looking at things.  

I have a very uncanny ability to create belief systems and I can tell you from experience that what you believe in goes a long way in determing how you experience life.  Well, I should change those 'you's to 'I's since I can only speak for myself.  That is part of what meditation is about.  It allows you to have direct experience of what others are saying.  When people ask you to sit down and meditate to clear your head, they are asking you to sit down and see the true nature of the "stress, the pain, anger, ect in [your] life"  Once you are able to observe your thoughts and let them be, you will start to see that you have been the one fueling these mind states and that you can control how much fuel you put into them, what kind of fuel you put into them, etc.

Your head may be jumbled, but just note the fact that it is jumbled and allow it to be that way.  You're actually a couple steps ahead there in that you realize what your problem is.  Most people sit down to meditate going "la la la'  "om om om" and then "ohhhhh...." because they are suddenly aware that their heads are more jumbled then they ever realized.  

Be careful though.  If you are going around being depressed and also going around thinking that you should be in a different state of mind then you are going to be creating a lot of tension within yourself.  "I'm depressed, but I should just be able to be happy and joyful.   Ok...  I'm still not happy and joyful and now I'm even more depressed because I should just be able to be the thing I want to be."   Yikes!  Self mutilation is not the way to go.  If you are depressed observe the fact that you are depressed and allow yourself to experience it.  Often we find that we are not the way we would like to be, so we keep running from ourselves trying to get to what we want.  But how can you find happiness outside of yourself?  Running is only going to let you think you are getting away.  Once you are able to look your depression dead in the eye then you will be able to know its nature, shake its hand, say "thank you", and let it be on its way.  hehehe  [][][]

I hope something in there resonates with you Smiley.  Maybe people will see it and be able to expand upon it.  

Peace
-nathan

The experience is beyond my ability to describe.  What you say about the pink aura certainly fits with the unconditional love that was emmenating from this being.  Amazing.  Simply amazing.

I have read your post over again and it just amazes me how similar our experiences are.  The only thing that differs from my experience is that I do not remember seeing her walk toward me.  (Suddenly, I am remembering a vision of seeing her walk toward me, but I mainly remember just seeing her beautiful holy loving amazing face.)  My friends were around at the time, but they made no comments at the time and never mentioned anything about it.  I also don't remember seeing butterflies.  

The rest is all very very similar.  I am no also more curious about this experience.  I had sort of filled it away.

Hey Eternity,
I have also experienced metting a pink entity.  For me this person was female and I only remember seeing her face (shoulders and up)  However, I would also describe my experience very similarly to yours.  The eyes I saw are beyond words for me to describe.  That face expressed inmense love, caring, knowledge, clarity, etc.  She felt as though She were Even and I was Adam.  One of the most amazing experiences of my life for sure.  Besides that, I have no idea who this person is.  Her face is unfamiliar to me and felt like no one else that I had encountered.

Peace
-Nathan

Greetings,

I recently read a book titled "Journey of insight meditation : a personal experience of the Buddha's way" By Eric Lerner.  In this book, Lerner describes seeing a bright ball of light in his meditation.  The way he describe it is that it was across a dark chasm and if his awareness faltered it would slip away.  Obviously, I have no idea if this is what you are experiencing.  However, if it is, he ended up thinkink he had attained something rather great and when he went to some Buddhist masters he was basically told that he had strayed into unmindfulness and that he should leave the ball of light alone.  Apparently, he had become attached to obtaining this ball of light and forgotten that the world is change.  Annika. Annika.

Not that I am saying you are doing this or it's anything similar or if it is similar then I am in no position to say that the masters know what they are talking about.  Follow your intuition

Peace
-Nathan

whew, I'm sober now.  I'm not sure I agree with any of the things that I wrote.  I am leaving the posts as they are an enertaining read.  

All the best
-nathan

if you are blah blah blah then blah blah blah.  blah balh bla bla blah bla blah.  forget it.  put in in words and forget it.  try to expalin it and lbah blah blah bla blah.  do you blah what I blah?  Can you blah blah booo ba blah be blu ba blah my blah?  even that is too much.  and definately that is too much.  or not enough or too little.  and I don't even know what I know. blah.  you'll see.  you'll bee you'll decreee you'll be sucked under the sea and then you'll...  I don't know tell me and try to not lie and describe in 100% acurately and if you can't then only know that you are leading people astray like I am and that you'll forever be doing this but also trying not to and that is blah blah blah and i hope.... well nevermind you'll get it eventually and I'll get it neverly and that is how it goes and goes and toses and froes and you'll know when you know that you know that you know that don't is the know the way that yu go and boy ohhh!  help me. envelp me throw me and know me and go through me and show me and blow the top of me chimmy britches with plater and sandman and I'm drunk as a land man.   I had to throw that in so you know from where I spin but hopefully...   whatever.  I'm lost in my endeveour.   you seeking gold and splendour will switch back to last november when you knew what you know and thought you could go but then in december you gave out to remember that this wasn't that and twitch wasn't a twat but that twat came to be in the bee in the sea that eventualy stung you in the sight of the sun.  yes, so now that you know I have thrown myself away to the the torment of last nights whore mongering you can feel safe and alone in you space that belongs to the whole.  I could go on forever but I'll stop here end my poor rhyme. mispell and let you be.  forget what you saw and rest peacfully.  your friend.  I love you.  I hope you all the best.  Just remember I'm drunk if that helps you.  I've forged my own signature.  because I am...  that thou...  that twam... netti netti.   humble bumble bees us three come a rumbling...
vodka is a dangerous animal

-Love is all we need
-nathan

you are no mind.  if there are any limits to what you are experiencing then that is not it.  and even that is an incomplete statement.  forget about knowing and not knowin and knwoing the not knowing and not knowing the knowing and blah blah blah.

I can understand all of the reactions that the following statements will inspire.  However, I believe I am writing from a very caring and loving state.  I may be shown that this is not so.

Just shake it off.  Sit comfortably and breath and then take a good look at these posts.  Look at what is being done and how you are getting caught up in all of this.  and breath and see and be and know and then be love be understanding and let go.  If they wish to go, let them.  But send them packing with a nice warm loving lunch and enjoy the knowledge that you have shared.  You have all been pushed in new directions and shown things about the universe and yourself and enjoy that.  

The soapbox is now available for the next poster

Peace my friends

Question to Zeta: Is the United States headed for a civil war or major shift in power structure in 2004/2005?

Lightpkachu,
Make sure to use a padded surface and be a body's length away from any obstacles  You could also be near a wall in order to help you balance at first.

Thank you for your comments Tayesin.  I am eager to try what you have suggested.  It is funny that you have described this method, as it very similar as a Vipassana meditation that I had been trying to peace together from a book that I recently read.  What you have written seems to fill in all the gaps.  

As for the name, it seems very appropriate for me right now []

Be well

This is a difficult question for me to ask, so I hope that you can sort of piece together what I am typing.
What happens when one becomes self realized and breaks out of the cycle of comming back to experience things over and over again?  Why do I spend my existence trying to realize "God" if once that happens I simply do it all over again?  Once one is realized, do they no longer feel the need to forget?  Why in knowing would we want to suffer again through the pain of "seperation"?
Why after experiencing "God" would I want to forget in order to know it again?  Why would I just not stay in the knowing?  Perhaps knowing is the wrong word to use. (Of course it is not the correct word )  Ok, so I have found the question and it took this long to ask it since I feel silly due to conditioned habits.  What happens after Enlightenment?  I do know that a silly question deserves a silly answer.

It is very interesting that you should mention this.  I have just started a yoga class and so far every week either the same night or night after the class I am able to OBE.  The odd thing is that I've been practicing yoga and meditation on my own before I started taking classes and only now am I having fully aware OBEs.  I can't see a thing and I can hardly move an inch, but I can get out.  Usually the whole night I will be able to get out as many times as I want to.

I will try breathing next time I'm out.  I can not say that I remember hearing the rushing sound while I was projecting, but I do remember having a rushing noise in my ears when I woke up.