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I guess it is a lot more complex, But isn't the immediate place after we transition sort of created on our beliefs that we had while on earth

not exactly, the astral is an independant but thought responsive system created long ago and running on it's own codes and it contains many animal and human kingdoms corresponding to various, groups, religions and belief systems, so you have systems within systems, within systems.


kind regards,

Paul

Dear Questioner,

rocky, uncontrolled exits are not necessary.

Lay there patiently, without fearing, desiring or expecting anything to happen you're loose enough from your physical body.
Once you're ready, simply shoot out of youre forehead. This is how I do it. Sometimes creating an object a few feet in front of me in the zone helps me centralize my awareness there and pull me out into the zone.
Astral arms and legs aren't necessary either. Move out of your body like a free floating camera.


kind regards,

Paul

First of all - going through a sort of deep, purificational sleep to get rid of all the memories and impurities picked up during the sojourn on Earth so that you don't have to still be attached to them and re-live them.


It should also be noted that home is not the astral world and that in the astral world one will sooner or later face extreme boredom which ironically is one of the reasons why many beings intentionally reincarnate on this piece of dirt.


kind regards,

Paul

Dear folks,

once in my own spiritual development I started to see that the mystery known as desire is actually what is distancing me from the things I wish to achieve.
Desiring something is like trying to grab some kind of bouncy candy ball, hanging by a rope from the ceiling that you reach out to with your arms but can only barely touch with your fingertips and as you're doing so, you cause it to flip away each time.
Likewise, desire creates a distance from that which one intends to reach.
This paradox is almost universal, why shouldn't it apply to the practice of astral projection?

Many people report success with AP but after a while they seem to lose it, being unable to reproduce the exits etc. It sounds only logical when considering that these could be cases where people started to form strong desires (=blockages!) to repeat that which they had managed to achieve.
I know similiar cases from my own experience, especially regarding meditation. I could have a wonderful experience one evening and be in agony the next because I would have attached myself to and desiring to repeat that which I had experienced the evening before.
The paradox here, as mentioned before is that desiring spiritual experiences is causing a distance between oneself and them and it is only the intention and the allowance to let it happen that can actually make it happen.

So - maybe if more people started to consider that if instead of desiring astral projection - they simply set the intention to do it and then allow it to happen - maybe then many more people would find themselves successful.
Desires are very subtle entities that noone is free from unless one consciously works towards identifying and eliminating them and when one does so, usually wonderful things begin to happen.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/selfliberation-t31318.0.html


kind regards,

Paul  

Dear Undertones,

It is now generally known that OBEs take place in a dimension (known as the etheric) resembling the material world but made of a dense, smokey material. It's like a mirror-dimension, reflecting physical content, but manipulated in fairytale ways by the imagination of the minds of people.

Astral projections are taking place in higher frequency realities known as the astral planes and are more refined and thought sensitive than the etheric.


kind regards,

Paul

There's no hidden key. I do believe that some people may have a natural talent for it, but that is rare. My key has been dedication, intent, devotion, patience, discipline, & hard work. And not just to get me going - it's a permanent life-style. When these things stop, so will progress.

Let's for a moment pretend that, as some sources claim and which i also consider as a possibility: that the third eye chakra activation/stimulation is key to astral projection:
It may take you years of dedication to finally and accidentally stumble on your third-eye chakra, likewise would someone who accidentally uses his third-eye chakra unconsciously on his 1st day be able to project just as well as you even though unlike you he has really spend 0 days on it.

Hard work and progress leading to development of astral projection abilities is simply a myth, as I stated before - some people achieve AP first night, not because of some mystical talent but because they stumble on the KEY on day 1 unlike someone else, who finds the key in Year #3, get it?


Sure many people would like to think that the enormous time they have dedicated to AP has lead them to some kind of progress with AP but the only reason they say this is because they wish to have some kind of reward and not feel doomed for having spent so much time for practically nothing.
They don't realize what I have stated above.

AP can not be learned like an instrument, it's a "once you get it, you get it" kind of thing, a doorway that you either find at once or you don't. And even if you have it once, you may lose it again if you delude yourself sufficiently.



kind regards,

Paul

So I was very into AP and everything related to it for about four months. I read every book from Robert Monroe and most from Bruce Moen and I was a daily visitor to this forum, so after a couple of months I started to experience AP's, OBE's, Phasings and it was amazing, I was also experiencing lucid dreams so I thought I am in for a ride but then everything stopped.

I started getting caught up in the daily routine crap of being more involved with materialistic stuff and so I devoted less and less time on my spiritual development. Now that I think about it is as if I was after this beautiful woman who was hard to get and when she finally says yes I turn away and leave. Weird I feel as if somehow I was just trying to prove something and now that I partially have then I am done with it.

Well I am trying to get back into caring less about material crap and focus on my spiritual learning but I find it is less intense than when I started.

Has anyone experienced these kind of phases in their growth?

Dear mcdwg,

I believe there's a hidden magic key that decides over the success of people.
It can not be true that month or year-long practice is the key to success, when in fact some people succesfully astral project each night by 0 devotion, 0 dedication and 0 effort while having the most materialistic lives you can imagine.

So let's screw the idea of "progressing" in astral projection.

I've been spending enormous amounts of time trying to find that hidden key that opens the door to OBEs for anyone and I'm still not entirely sure what it is, tho I have made myself plenty of models.
I think that people who are succesful have stumbled over that key without knowing what they are actually doing.
And then one day they may lose that key again and suddenly they are baffled over why all of a sudden they can't do it anymore.


kind regards,

Paul

Hey everyone,

This past March, I was having outstanding success with oobe's.  Whenever I took an afternoon nap ar went to bed at night I at least got to a stage where I felt vibrations and could exit, however, I can't do anything now.  Iv'e stayed conscious for over an hour almost every night while sleeping trying to induce an oobe and I don't even feel vibrations anymore.  What could this mean, I'm doing nothing different.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Dear citation,

chances are that some time during your experiences you have shifted your focus away from where it belongs, however your discription is too small to tell anything further. From my own experience, waiting or trying to induce "vibrations" gets one nowhere.
If you lay down and start expecting or desiring something to happen just because it occured that way last time, you're not going to get very far!



kind regards,

Paul

The problem at the core isn't that useless karma system but when you care about how someone else thinks of you.

I don't want people with questions to doubt member's knowledge.

Doubting another's claims and all that theoretic dogma is exactly what people should do.



kind regards,

Paul

Dear Eyyoshi,

it's ok to want to escape this sick world, don't let anyone supress your feelings.
Noone who is really by himself desires to stay in this fudged up place.
It's perfectly understandable for one to desire to atleast not feel trapped here by aquiring the ability to atleast temporarily be able to leave by one's own will.

I've had very severe depression attacks in the last few months for literally no apparent reason. They would come on like waves and then be gone like the wind. This has made it much harder for me to focus on my work. I've also seen many more social problems in people I know.
Overall I have been observing a major global energetic shift to the worse since the end of 2008, so the spiritually sensitives are having a much harder time, the numb and ignorant ones however, do not.

"Go get some help, talk to someone who will act like a social anti-depressive."

What kind of help is that? That is the one of the worst things someone can recommend to another and many people simply parrot this "advise" over and over.


It is important also to have your body cleared of toxins atleast once a year.
Accumulated metals can cause debilitating problems.


Here are some symptoms one site lists for mercury-salt poisoning:

Depression, mood swings, irritability, fear, extreme anger, insomnia, ADHD and loss of energy...

Aluminum is another big problem and it's everywhere, even in the air "sprayed" by airplanes.


I recommend using Jim Humble's "Miracle Mineral Solution" to take care of that problem. It's really cheap and lasts long.




kind regards,

Paul

Dear ssake,

I don't have any success working with my subconscious either, especially these "I will realize i'm be dreaming" kind of affirmations.

Since then I came to the conclusion that I can not will my success into existence for I must exert a quite relentless focus.
Continual focused meditation gives one's body the signal to shut down and feeling this especially by the brainwaves slowing down, he must manage to continue focusing very tightly. This will result in a projection of the astral body with the consciousness being active and present in that body.

kind regards,

Paul

Dear Eyyoshi,

I have read on multiple occasions that The System punishes suicides severely.

Take for example Astral City by André Luiz (a spirit's story channeled thru Francisco Cândido Xavier).

He was a medical doctor who died in the hospital, picked up after 8 years in the lower astral and becoming citizen of the astral system, emediatly classified suicide for having failed to heal his body (he had cancer among other things).

I'd say - it all depends where you go. If one wants to join these whacky astral governances then he/she should be ready for big suprises. Atleast don't expect to see anything better than you have here.



(Just to complete the picture of the book a little more - in the course of it the spirit basically describes how the astral government of the astral  colony/city (Christian based) where he was stationed would manage people's future incarnations along with everything else there is based on merit (Karma) and the notion of advancement through community service. Everyone there works to gain merit coins and get a better astral job and government positions are highly anticipated. It's much like here on Earth except people there highly regard the government.)


kind regards,

Paul

Dear Melchior,

in my opinion - forget about the vibrational- and other preparation state hogwash and learn to concentrate while relaxing at the same time. When you're ready, you'll lift up at ease.



kind regards,

paul

something interesting I found a couple of days ago

I'll try to explain the salient points briefly.

I was having a normal dream where I was at the grocery store. I looked at a display of potato chips, and a black rectangle appeared in the center of my vision. It doubled in size after a second, and then my vision turned entirely black.

The black faded away, directly into the face of a typical x-files style gray alien (big black eyes, giant head). The setting was my parents' old bedroom, in the apartment we had lived in before. There was an alien at the foot of the bed, and another beside it. I lucid dream on occasion, and I was lucid then, and aware that I could control my reality. I was afraid, and I inflated myself like a balloon, and the aliens were surprised, and I kept inflating until I pressed them against the walls. Then the scene was suddenly back at the grocery store, looking at the potato chips display!

I'd shrug this off as an average dream, but the black rectangles set it apart from anything I've ever heard of. It's my understanding that aliens are said to operate on higher frequencies. What happened?

http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=18265&p=124223&hilit=inflating#p124223


The greys that have no physical body anymore (like having wasted it in ufo wars) and lurking around in the real-time zone are weak and easily combated evidently, not so the ones in their Grey physical bodies with all the technology at their undeserving hands, of course.
Unfortunately many people let themselves be brainwashed into thinking they were here to assist humanity!

It is very clear that they are also allied to the more powerful Reptilians. It is likely tho that these will exterminate the physical Greys' like dropping baggage once they are no longer of any tool-value to them. Many ETs are seeking refuge by taking on human bodies in society.
It's a butt ugly scenario.


kind regards,

Paul

Dear cpt. picard,

it is probably best to start by realizing that the extrasensory perceptions utilized  in remote viewing are a very integral part of oneself, people are using them everyday without notice.

The key is to direct one's awareness towards a number that is linked to a location and then to raise one's psychic receptivity like you would listen or watch a movie. The key is to let go from control as much as possible. Then the stream of information will flood into the mind. This stream is very subtle and can be corrupted by associations, wishful thinking, expectations. Trance states will enhance this experience. Deeper trances can transform it into full blown visions.
In remote viewing the data comes by very raw and one doesn't look at it like one looks at a picture. Imagine seeing a picture but instead of realizing distance, distincte objects etc. you only see it like a computer would - presence and dominance of certain colors, curvature and patterns, outlines and shapes, lightness, darkness contrast etc.
While looking at this raw data, one's mind will begin to try and interpret this data in one way or another by using it's own language of known symbols.
For example, a medieval wizzard looking into the future and viewing the event of 9/11 would not see a plane hitting a highrise because he has never seen one nor can he comprehend it. In his mindset, he may see men riding giant dragons spitting fire at a castle for this is the most closely fitting resemblance to the actual event that his mindset can offer.
I've also found that having previously looked intensively as certain elements, let's say pictures of forests and just a few minutes later doing a remote viewing target that involves a lot of people, I would not see people but trees.
The same goes for remote viewing multiple sessions in rapid succession, symbols that have recently been used will start jumping over into the next session.
For this reason one should clear the mind sufficiently before remote viewing a target.


You can use this site for RV practice. http://www.dojopsi.com/tkr/ It will generate for each session a combination of letters linked to a foto that of course links one to the real life location, result will be shown afterwards on demand. Sessions can be made public to show to other TKR users and comments by other users can be made.

hi i know that mental projection and remote viewing  are diffrernt but lately i have come to think of them as the same thing. do other think the same?

Dear fourthdimension,

I have read claims in other forums of remote viewing being mental projections.
I do not know what a "mental projection" is supposed to be but I think that remote viewing involves projecting a tiny part of one's astral body to distant places in a controlled effort.


kind regards,

Paul

There's a story about a group of Ice (meth) smokers.
Apparently it has tendencies to align with a low astral frequency. They open a "hypercube" through which entities stream into the room. One attaches tentacles to one of the users, paralyzes (possesses one or more of his chakras) and telapathically tells him that it's going to control him and make him kill his friends.

You can read the story here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52802


kind regards,

Paul

the prime directive of greys is being assholes  

Dear afterdark,

I would recommend to have no expectations and no waiting for exit sensations otherwise they can break one's focus.

The best way to deepen trance I found is to focus on ambient sounds. If there is complete silence focus on that silence or the ringing in the ears if you have some. Focus should be easy and pressureless and if it becomes an agony, let go and reality check. Externalize as many senses as you can. This will also make one's astral body loose so one can project. Ironically, deep trance is not necessary at all for projection but it helps, it is only that astral body loosening that one aquires through externalization of awareness that creates the right condition for the astral body to project.


kind regards,

Paul

Dear Bacratoo,

perhaps deepening the trance will dampen that excitement.
If you don't know how to deepen trance -

focus on your environment, if there are sounds focus on them, if there are not, simply pretend or expect to hear something.

For projection it is not necessary to wait for energy sensations in order to exit. Once I am in the write state that is - being loose enough, I shoot straight and fast out of from my forehead that way I can avoid a lot of distracting sensations. All I get is the sound of wind rushing by my ears as like on a motorbike, i love it.


kind regards,

Paul

How mellow of you, Xanth.


Oh my! What happened to my Karma!

I guess I'm going to be an elephant next life...Zareste and Xanth probably two Roman captured slaves fighting it out as adversaries in the colloseum.

im pretty sure he doesnt resemble a kitty

I find it to be honest quite shocking that there are people who are really so naive as to view wikipedia contents as irrefutable facts . Almost as worse are the trolls who apparently still exist having not grown up for they are running around, squawking:
*conspriacy theory!* *conspiracy theory!* failing to partake in human adult level arguments.

Tiny can you explain more about telepathic suggestion ad weakening the bodys energy system and why they would want to do that.

Dear Fourthdimension,

Consider the concept of thought not as an internal but rather an external energy.
The reality appears to be that one's thoughts are not generated within oneself but ultimately roaming the environment and are reflected over and over instead of merely originating and ending within one's own mind. The brain is merely the receiver interpreting thoughts in it's own language and symbolism.
With this in mind one can understand that one who is thinking is actually actively communicating with his environment and in fact also the astral beings roaming it (absorption rate defined by one's attitude and noise-level or intensity of the thought energy present). The difference is that more astral beings are aware of this than humans are...
Humans at large believe that thoughts are only a reflection of their own inner life and this makes them highly susceptible to suggestion-based thoughts coming from astral beings because their egos assume that they are taking to themselves which is simply not the case.

Now, many drugs have a strong tendency to open up the consumer's energy bodies (the drinker finds it easier to talk to other people etc.) which gives parasitical astral beings easier access to the consumer's aura and it can attach itself to a chakra and experience what the consumer experiences. It also allows the astral invader to more easily exert it's will on the consumer. Some astral beings attach themselves to specific drug consumers only for the reason that they themselves, before their death had been addicts and are still addicted to the specific substance. As I said above the astral invader, by attaching itself to a chakra of the consumer whose auric defense systems have already been weakened/opened, experiences the rush/extasy/fun as much as the consumer himself does.
Then there are other parasitic astral beings who only enjoy the fact that the consumer's energy systems have been weakened because it allows them to easier manipulate them. They will then manipulate his thoughts and actions to cause negative outcomes in his life to result in suffering in the victim that in turn releases energy from the victim as water dripping from a squeezed sponge.
Obviously, astral beings who don't reflect love energy (dark beings) are consequently receiving none and are so suffering a continual lack of energy which is why they go to such means as returning to the earth-plane (real-time-zone?) to cause misery and feeding upon the release of energy thru the suffering they are causing. This is a terrible esoteric truth we are facing in this world.

This is my current understanding of some of the esoteric going-ons you asked to know more about and I don't consider myself infallible in my intelligence.


kind regards,

Paul

Dear Fourthdimension,

astral beings in the parallel dimension are encouraging one to take drugs (by telepathic suggestion) because some of them weaken one's energy system, allowing them easier access to it.

If you're looking for easy access to DMT it can also be found in various legal plant material such as Mimosa Hostilis and seeds of Anadenanthera Peregrina (Yopo!), letter are especially cheap and legal to obtain. Unfortunately I haven't had any success with (smoking) them but in general they are said to be very potent.


kind regards,

Paul

you are asking for a whole forum for their feedback, and then insulting those who don't agree with you.

This is simply not true. I did not insult any body, it is only you who perceives to be insulted for I apparently yet again, broke one of your moral codex.

In other words, you are merely ticked off just like you were ticked on my replies to your claims in my thread on iron pills in the astral dynamics forums, remember?


kind regards,

Paul