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you must be desperate since you've posted this all over the place.

i'm sure you'll get a lot of direct advice, but if i could for one moment get you to turn around and look at the situation from another point of view. several points of view actually. first you can't help your friend...and i think you already know this. second...what if this isn't really about him, but you instead?!? what lesson resides in this relationship for YOU? the obvious ones being that a) you would feel really good (about yourself) if you could change his function. b) you feel bad about yourself bcuz you can't help him, etc. lessons in sticking around even though someone else is bringing you down. and it goes round in a circle. you can't rescue your friend. you can rescue yourself. would be nice if there were no expectations involved. if you could accept him for who he is. if you could change the dynamics of the friendship. maybe you are challenging yourself in the wrong area? you could of course be enabling him to continue in this manner. where he would be feeding of your need to fix him, and you could be feeding off his weakness. seems you are genuinely concerned, but it's true that if you can't accept someone as they are...it would probably be best to move on.

also look at what might be an addiction on your part. you could be putting up with it only bcuz it's a challenge or quest of some sort, and not even really be concerned about the person at all. the fixing being more important then the individual.

just thoughts
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exactly!

sexual energy is usually more deviant, and like i said it's like candy to them. they just can't get enough of it. period!  however genuine love (not the marketed happy-happy/joy-joy...fluffy teddy bear...i love everyone love), but the real simple exchange of love....fascinate them to no end. much like you might react if you actually saw the easter bunny. i think it mesmerizes them bcuz they don't understand it...they have no idea what it is.

[ACTUALLY]

you have to read it again. slowly. bit by bit.
not to say that it isn't possible that it wasn't exactly what he meant, but...

i myself find it disturbing (that's the only word i can think of) that someone would ACTUALLY say
"more & more people are NOW...ACTUALLY.....EXPERIENCING ..................."THE TRUTH"...................................FOR THEMSELVES!

what were they doing before?

and i guess the part that disturbs me most...is the point of reference for the comment. someone saying it would have to be standing in "the truth" in order to make a judgment like that.

what will disturb me more...is if i'm the only person that see this.

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FRANK,
i'm not sure you answered my question either about how you know for sure that your mind is your own?!? maybe it was over my head, but i think you danced around the question. i mean...windows might be your operating system, but what about all the little trojan/spy programs that are planted in the back and carry out a completely different function USING the same hard-drive?!? something along those line...i think you know what i'm getting at.

also...

More and more people are now actually experiencing the truth for themselves.

THAT HAS TO BE THE MOST BIZARRE THING I'VE HEARD ON THIS SITE.
i just keep re-reading it, and it's very, very disturbing.
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FROGLET: okay...thought you meant me . good. GOOD...as long as you keep flipping it over, and tossing it around, and take time not to rush into anything...i am not worried for you either. not in the least. GOOD.
EXCELLENT!

souljah i have a question for you. what is 333?

whatever you want it to be.

has anyone ever heard of the "scientific" tests done with children of severe abuse...where when they are placed in an unfamiliar or threatening environment...they will recede to the parent that abuses them (for safety)?!
it's an alpha-protection thing/also a familiarity thing. they feel MOST comfortable with what they are familiar with, even though it is detrimental to their well-being. where i try to open up the lines of thought for flexibility and flow, it's odd that in a round about way this can actually work in the opposite manner to re-confirm what is familiar and well-accepted.

i think about people i know that are addicted to sugar. they don't think so...it's only a "preference" of a "refinement" of sorts, but they constantly reach for the sweetest treats available. if i offer them fruit (a NATURAL sweet) they look at me like i'm nuts. to me it's all sweet, but to different degrees...to them it's two completely different things, but where i would admit that both correct.  they would insist "i" was wrong...and something in that little observation is reflected here.

froglet (james):
when you posted "she/her" was that in reference to me?!?

i might have not made it clear in my original post that i wasn't attempting to answer YOUR questions. i was merely using your thread for my own personal observations, etc. if you're looking for answers there are plenty of other people that will be glad to "help"...as has already been demonstrated.

i've just been thinking a good deal about "attraction/retraction" whatever that action is that causes the majority of people to reach for something that appeals to them/seems easy/quick/convenient/etc, and avoid the opposite..and in the process be completely convinced that this is correct. that what they "desire" is ultimately good, and what leads directly there is the best course of action.

anyway...
i was was merely speaking out loud and in no way was i concerned with whether or not i was selling you on my ideas. if my goal was to manipulate you i would have been more subtle.  
i would have told you what you wanted to hear.

in reference to your post then i will say this.
i have LOTS of experience in obe's/ap...and neg's and i have never found candles, holy water, sea salt, etc to work...and as far as like attracting like which might behoove you to hold onto if you "think" you're a good person...however in scientific/practical terms (which you said is where your interest lies) i believe magnetically that opposites attract.
plus i know many people that suffer attacks and they're the nicest, kindest, most understanding and open-minded people i've had the pleasure to meet, but of course that's only my opinion.

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a lot of people talk about levels up & down, but seldom side to side. from my experience all i can say (and i'm not the expert at this forum), but i have no problem with the ideas of past lives. i do believe that we have lived many, many times over...and yes i have accessed these during obe's/AP. there are also parallel lives (i believe) millions. different versions of yourself that would appear similar to standing between two mirrors that are facing each other and seeing your reflection go on forever. millions of reflections of your mind. one mind overseeing them all. very easy to access during AP. i also believe these to be very well balanced...ranging from versions of yourself that would scare the excrement out of you, to the most serene and gentle...and everything in between. all learning lessons and gathering experiences for the collective mind. if you exist here...why not elsewhere? why is it so easy (or correct) to imagine there is only one version of you? and so hard to imagine that you are limitless. once again...what is the purpose of the box? why must we draw lines around something completely beyond us in an attempt to better understand it??? i think it's very male (stuck-male). it's vivisecting the animal so as to better understand it's nature. forgetting that it's nature has now changed. it's dead!

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No ones mind can possibly play tricks on them. To accept that is to accept that a person's mind can exist independently and in contradiction to the person in question.

still waiting for someone to reply on the Q: how can anyone say for absolute certainty that their mind is their own? and i would have to disagree with the above quote...i think our minds play tricks all the time. not that the mind is playing a tricks on the person per say, but on itself as a form of self-testing. plus you don't exist if not for your mind...the mind is really all there is. so as one can easily say the person and the mind are one (which is true in a sense). the person being only a physical manifestation/representation OF the mind can also look from the other end of the binoculars and say that the mind can in fact exist anyway it likes without any real concern for the physical images it projects.

i think this goes back to my above post. where i feel the majority of people are stuck in the image of the "self/I" and lose perspective of their limitless mind. everything viewed from a physical perspective. i would also like to add something about "conditioning" & "programming", but i need to think about that more before i end up with both feet in my mouth.
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i understand what you meant and in a larger sense i feel this to be true, but once again...i think there is a certain strength is coming round full circle with this. in the lessons that lead to this ultimate power of unifying the mind. without the lessons of knowing what tricks the mind IS capable of playing...the student is weak...and worse...lacking in COMPLETE RESPECT for that power.

i don't think anyone would argue the fact that our technology has surpassed our function...and although there's always room for newer, quicker, more hands-on techniques when it comes to everything. i would stress caution in "these" new methods only bcuz no one knows for sure what they're getting themselves into when they're inexperienced. like going on a blind-date with the handsome, well-to-do bachelor that everyone raves about...only to find out he's a rapist. not the same thing at all, but a dramatized explanation regarding rushing into something you have little-to-no idea about, nor the energies behind it. i thinks that's just common sense. i'd have no problem with new technologies if i saw more of a demonstration of common sense. i know a good deal about tools and equipment...and i know it's a huge market with lots of new, great, handy gadgets on the shelves everyday...still nothing works as well as the very first and simple few. the wedge, the wheel, the hoist, etc.

this is the third time i've come back to this post...something wishing me to reply. i'm only choosing this post bcuz it's current, and it is in-keeping with the "general" mentality here. i look and this is what i see (face value): a lot of people interested in attaining/attuning to particular powers that be, but in a completely self-absorbed, fast-food type "need" for something that immediately behooves them...raises them up a level on some cosmic ladder of intelligence and ability. basically people wanting to subscribe to a QUICK & PAINLESS method of spirituality. i don't fault anyone for being naive, but there are dangers to this approach that are difficult to explain. when you put your faith into the mainstream, when you are willing to be "initiated" into the "secret knowledge" at a price & worst at no-cost to yourself as far as energy is concerned you will most definitely come up short-handed and worse for wear. many come here seeking advice and answers. much energy put into the search, less energy put into the offerings, and even less put into the digestion and utilization of what is received. i can't help but say this worries me...although i must remain objective for everyone has their lessons.

i have no reservations in pointing out that i'm uncomfortable in taking something as limitless as the astral and building a construct round it, applying rules and regulations, levels and borders into it. i understand where the 3-D, linear mind is the tool @ hand, but we suffer enough with the black & white ways of this world. why do people insist on dragging that baggage into the astral and using it as the definitive road-map?

whether people are traversing their subconscious, or an unknown realm outside themselves...which has a heavy border here @ AP...why must the direction always be "useful"? why do people feel they need to "protect" themselves? why are "attacks" viewed as negative and off-track???

"attacks" are both lessons AND initiations! if the universe is balanced, as we are told, and which seems to be self-evident upon deep reflection, then it is almost necessary to experience both aspects in any learning experience. it is what you DO with the "attacks" that makes them either lessons from which you learn, or troubles from which you suffer. and it is in this sense that awareness plays the major role of transforming attacks into lessons; awareness being the thing that you acquire with knowledge, which then enables you to see the realities behind the (symbol) system, so that you can choose the most "harmonious" option of those presented to you in the masked reality in which we live and travel.

attacks don't always come in dark shadows and scaled-blood thirsty beasts...sometimes they come with smiles, and pats on the back and little certificates of accomplishment with gold stickers!!! (and they are VERY heavy lessons indeed!!!)

Mystics in the past have talked about this "place" as having a kind of Alice in Wonderland effect, where all your thoughts come to life and so forth. Problem is, they never seemed to question it any further than that by asking the question of WHY all your thoughts came to life. Well, as I say, we now know that you are actually projecting within your own area of mind. This means as you believe then so it becomes, literally. So if you subscribe to all the notions of demons and dragons and such like, then demons and dragons you shall perceive. Because it's your own area of mind you are projecting into.

first i wonder how people are SO SURE this is THEIR OWN mind at work?
second...(who's-ever mind it is) everything is a manifestation of it! In the physical, the astral, the subconscious...whichever. why is there a lack of interest in what our so-called "subconscious" (or for that matter conscious) mind manifests here in the physical? what are the lessons in that??? and people tripping on into the astral to find the BIG answers there, that they seemingly wish to apply to here without doing the lessons ...and what is all this "pot of gold" stuff?!?
what is that?!!? all cherry cokes and ice cream sundaes...all glittering little puff of truth, wrapped in diamond-encrusted spiritual easter-baskets, delivered by those who REALLY care. i don't know about anyone else, but i just find that insulting, and the repetition of it nauseating. anyone that lives in this physical, mortal world knows in their heart that this is not the path. there is no skipping lessons period! no one special enough to by-pass the tosh...for the reward is not at the end of the rainbow, the secret is not in turning the lead into gold. that is not the wants of the human condition...that is what we have been PROGRAMMED to DESIRE. to LEAD US ASTRAY and away from true POWERS.

how does anyone know that this physical world is not a PROJECTION, and that the demons and dragons are part a truer reality!?!
there is a drastic lesson in being gullible, delivered by very impressive shirts with all the answers. a lesson never to be forgotten.

i doubt that anything i say is going to hit anyone hard enough to look around...and rightfully so. it is not my place to impose my reality...it's just that what comes along the path that feels right, looks right and seems right...doesn't have anything to do with the PATH. and even though i quickly lose steam in trying to put these things into words...i felt pressure to do so. SO I DID. just ramblings...nothing more.

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thanks for the post. usually where wires are concerned my hands do the get worst of it! usually the first place under attack (wire-wise). i'll have to do some energy work/cleansing on them and see if that helps.

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cassiopaeans are saying that deja vu...is when you've experienced something that one of your other dimensional bodies has experienced. that we're all connected on a unconscious level (collective) with millions of other selves. 2012 (roughly) they talk about a merging of all the selves, which they refer to as the moment of enlightenment...they say it could "appear" to last forever, but it'll just be a moment in time.

i'm more interested in the word "exaggerate".

seems like there are so many creative options to solve this problem. the best being to break the book down into segments. paying for them as one can afford. or having a communal place to store the book that requires membership (at a discount). but then adrian/frank wouldn't make bank in that case. not as much. members of AP should definitely get a discount non the less!

there's that little story about canned beans. i don't know who started it but...
companies are selling canned beans for 2.99 a can, and making an incredible profit, but it's not an everyday purchase bcuz of the price...till one guys decides that instead of making 2.50 (lets say) profit per can...he'll lower the price to .88 cents. he makes less of a profit PER CAN, but outsells all the other bean books (sorry) bean cans. somehow within the scope of it all this fits in here. REALLY!  

i think the issue people have is that it's an "E-BOOK". it keeps being said that the price of the book(s) is "nominal" when in fact the price is pretty damn hefty, and it's the publishing costs that are nominal. it disillusions folks! charge less for the book...sell more. pretty simple i think.

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seems like thought-forms are all there really is. also seems we had similar childhood friends!?!    i too tend to be reclusive in my work and being. also a creative visionary/writer/mystic. still prefer the woods to anything else, but i'm pushing myself to keep in touch...at least take a peek at what others are up to. this forum proves somewhat interesting that way.

welcome to the circle
mr. merlin
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dear mindseye,

please...don't talk about this like you understand it. what you are saying is not a truth. you are in fact telling the person that what is happening, isn't really happening, and that if it is happening...they brought it upon them-self by invitation.

we need to leave that aspect of it behind.
these things CAN enter your life without invitation.
BECAUSE...
and you are correct in a sense, but it is a much different level than what you think it is. many people that are under attack...have asked for enlightenment. have asked for a connection to something higher, or asked to learn more about the astral, etc. depending on their level of intent it comes. WE ARE HEAR ON THIS PLANET IN THE PHYSICAL TO LEARN AND TO EXPERIENCE THINGS WITH OUR SENSES. when the student goes to school they are asking to learn. some subjects may be enjoyable, some not!

WE HAVE ALL ASKED FOR IT BEFORE WE EVEN GOT HERE.
a lot more people are getting some very heavy lessons now, and more to come. it's very important to STAY OPEN TO THE INFORMATION> learn.

we've given everything an invitation in this life. now we have to deal with it. stay focused on the lesson. stay flexible!!!

peace & wisdom
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i afraid it was too long and i think you missed the most important point, because i buried in a bunch of irrelevant information.

the more violently you react. the more violently they react, and if you prove yourself to be a worth opponent it "turns them on"...not away! however on the other hand...it's not exactly in the doing "nothing" part that you escape unscathed either. you're thinking 3-dimensionally...too physically. you can't be expected to think otherwise, but there is a lot more to it than that. if you encounter a "predator" in this physical world...one that is hunting YOU. i expect you to fight with a fury and make it swift and precise...and it all depends on your "PHYSICAL STRENGTH".

in the astral however is takes a different strength. very different. and it has a lot to do with a) balance b) how honest you are to yourself & c) how much strength you FEEL you have in total. i'll leave it at three steps to keep it simple. it's easy for someone to say they are strong. it's easy to easy to PRETEND you are something you're not in this world. actually "PERSONA'S" are pretty much what this 3rd world is about.
(you need to understand that sentence above!) in the astral you can create CHARACTERS that are infinitely more impressive than here, but it is not the image you carry that will protect you. it's the TRUTH and knowledge you possess...and that's why i say it's very samurai/jedi like. it has more to do with the spirituality & discipline of the warrior, than the puffed up image. that's why the training is extensive, complicated, and exhausting...in the end...you have moved through it all and hopefully come out with a clear mind.

imagine having some sort of tiny, ancient martial arts teacher. a guy like PAI MAI from kill bill that could snap you in half like a toothpick before you could even blink. if you told him what you told me in your reply he would think you FOOLISH!

you'll get your chance and if nothing else...it will be enlightening.
when the student is ready the teacher will appear.
and there's a lot of waxing on and off before you can do what you replied.

in response to your question of first blood...only a metaphor. yes i can be wounded but the only thing that effects me physically is the drain on energy. when i was younger i use to wake myself before it got too far. now i can pretty much stick it out with the best of them, as i know how to reserve my energy...but i say again...i don't fight for the sake of fighting. it's always a recon mission of sorts, or a rescue nowadays.

it's an extraordinary feeling being riddled with bullets, hanging on the wrong end of a sword, or having something that's all teeth sink into an extremity and try to tear you apart. it's all very real feeling. currently my style is morphing once again. that hidden-dragon style where everything gos in slo-mo. it's not completely a natural function yet. i still have to will it, but i become more "wispy" for lack of a better word (less physical). it's difficult to leave those physical reactions and rules behind when you go astral. we are truly trapped by them. with more experience it becomes easier to get around, flow, work in a limitless way.
it's all very educational in that light. it really has nothing to do with fighting.

best of luck
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god...gothika...it's JUST a psi-ball. vampire is just a brand name.  

[this is why i don't suggest battling as a form of defense]

astral warrior by night...mild mannered creative visionary by day.
neither one pays the bills!!!

not quite sure what to say. have been battling for over twenty years. it's kind of like talking about brushing my teeth. grab brush, add paste, brush, rinse, repeat. but you asked for a response...thus i must make an effort.

i was extremely young when this all started. for the first several years all i could do is NOT sleep. anytime i fell into the unconscious, even napping during the day i was attacked. it was only natural that i started fighting back. at first it was pretty fruitless...basically using all the energy i could to defend myself. the attacks got worse. very much worse! on occasion i would get in a good blow or two which kept me going in this direction. i still wasn't sleeping. i was fighting all night. exhausted to the point of non-function during the day, and the cycle went round and round like that for a good while maybe five years before i started to lose my cool. subconsciously i was ok. consciously i was bonked. my attacks have always been of a sexual nature. the fighting began as a way of beating the assailants off. they never came at me purely to fight, but it was still scary as excrement. when i started fighting back i think it just added to the excitement and the flavor of the feed. basically they were getting a double dose. this is why i don't suggest battling as a form of defense. i'm sure i've written this before, but a very interesting thing happened when i finally gave up fighting. and this only happen bcuz it was such a regular thing in my life that i began to just "give in" to it. when i did the attacks became less aggressive. and fewer and father between. where i would normally be attacked nightly by six to ten neg's. it dropped down to two or three, but still pretty much nightly. i still fought back, but only the ones that came at me in a bad way. around this time the entities became extremely diversified. actually some that were enjoyable. it's probably ridiculous of me to say, but i felt a little more in control. since i wasn't giving into the negative ones, but was willing (sort-a-speak) to accommodate the neutral and more passive beings. i assume you've never had a sexual encounter with a spirit being. it's hard to explain. it can't be equated to anything physical. definitely out of this world! and from my dealings i would say a more satisfying source of sustenance for "them" that just the fear feeding. don't get me wrong. i wish i never had to deal with any of this, but it seems to be my path...so i've tried to make the best out of a horrid situation.

jump ahead to current time: (and i'll try to stay on track and answer your question). the attacks are far less frequent now, so i have more time for other astral pursuits. i get into it all pretty deep, and there's a lot to get into believe me. i consider myself to be a cosmic warrior/healer. i've been through countless battles. slayer of vampires, destroyer of parasitic probber's, and the list goes on. i must say however that i never, ever draw first blood! my methods are in keeping with an honorable system. that of a samurai or jedi knight. i don't go looking for these things to bring down. i have compassion for all GODS creatures, but that ends when the being(s) i'm approached by don't possess this ability. a lot don't, and i think they are fair game from all sides...even their own kind. the astral can be a cruel and heartless world, and there is no harm in being prepared of well trained to defend yourself. warriors are coming in very handy.

know that you aren't really killing anything. just breaking their rhythm. now that anything is possible. increasing your presence, size, growing wings, shape-shifting into whatever you can imagine, manifesting any weapons or tools you wish. all it takes is focused intent to bring it into being. it's a wonderful skill, but it comes at a price. all in all it could be seen as a great waste of time, save for the idea i have that it is generating a certain reality/perspective of what these foreign entities consider us to be. they really aren't anyway near as imaginative or savvy. they basically come as they are, and do what they do. the MO is consistent...where humans have a lot of parlor tricks up their silky sleeves. it makes us hard to judge. YES there's a whole hell of a lot that is "typical" and easily "calculatable' about us. and that part they have down to a T. but we do/can mystify them, confuse them easily by applying or free-will. i think that's where the grave importance of free-will comes into play. it keeps them having to guess.

it's a noble path you seek. we can always use more warriors and healers. i for one would welcome the assistance. it's not that i live for the fight. it's more of a equalizer position...keeping the battlefield level and just. not sure if it's working, but it's what i do. i have a hard time more and more when entering the astral...on what to do there?!? i can manifest whatever i want, project here and there, etc. but that's just the fun and games part of it. i would definitely consider the warrior/healer aspect of myself to be my career.

i think in that sense the astral can become a different place.
something about creating a career out of something you love. when it becomes work (which it always does)...the enjoyment wains. i still however love to travel. i have to bcuz i spend so much time in it!    

not sure this answers your question, but it's my experience and that's all i can give.

anymore questions feel free to ask.
sincerely 333

I KNOW THAT WAS REALLY LONG>be careful what you wish for!!!

i have a fair amount of experience with this...with children in the astral. though most of mine are a little more terrifying than a bloody nose & screaming, but i can see if it's new to you...the terror of that when you just want to take a nap. good thing is they're children (plain and simple). neg's don't go around pretending to be kids in my experience (more like the oz behind the big, creepy-fanged monster curtain)...so i'm not sure if this is along your line of thinking at all, or how conscious you are in your dreams, but a good hug always works! i know that sounds really odd and probably not favorable, and when dealing with little demon children (although this sounds more like a ghost. less like a parallel dimension bcuz it wouldn't keep repeating)...they tend to bite and claw a lot, but eventually settle down. either way whoever this kid is...it's a kid and is obviously freaked out (more so than you)...and if you want to find out what it's about. talk to him...you'll have to settle him down first.

whatever you do it'll take a lot of heart & genuine concern. not sure if you're up to that or not. if you ignore it he'll most likely move on or be directed to someone else that can help him.

best of luck
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[laugh at him & blow him off every time you see him]

first i want to paint a little picture that's simple/high school stuff...not bcuz i feel that the audience is immature, but inexperienced. my hope is to walk away from the spiritual mumbo-jumbo for a sec and look at something that most everyone has experience with...
(this is from a female perspective, but it works both ways)

you have a crush on a guy at school. you work your way into his circle, and become friends. you do whatever it takes to win him over. he uses you and follows up by completely ignoring you &/or treating you like sh*t.
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reactions on your part to "save yourself"
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- laugh at him & blow him off every time you see him.
problem with making a joke out of it is...it's not the truth (is it?). you we're/are hurt, rejected, humiliated, etc (major emotions) and out of fear of dealing with those emotions & accepting the TRUTH you "pretend" otherwise = conclusion...you are not being honest with yourself, and you are not respecting your feelings. you are simply betraying yourself as well.

- take the whole thing very seriously! he treated you like crap and now it is necessary to make him pay! you refuse to let the situation go, and attack him every chance you get...trying to belittle him and turn the tables. fact is...you've lost your cool, and you end up not only being hurt, but looking like a stark-raving b*tch/lunatic! you've just expanded the problem without any satisfaction or compassion on your part. reacting as you're own worst enemy...once again you are betraying yourself, bcuz you have refused the "lesson", the probable being...that you asked for it! that you offered yourself up to the situation (not so much the individual guy himself)...knowing full well (if you had put your ragging hormones aside for a moment and looked "clearly" at the cards on the table)...that you were setting yourself up to get hurt.
- lastly...and somewhere in between there is balance. and it is truly a wonderful feeling of empowerment and wisdom when you can reach this state. although it doesn't keep you from your lessons. you will still find yourself in positions where you get hurt, betrayed, rejected, etc. but you will be building new skills to cope with it that work far better than those mentioned above...that accomplish nothing. you take him aside and tell him face to face in a calm manner how you feel and nothing more. you don't look for an apology, you don't wait for explanations, or excuses, and you don't stand for any disrespect...and it isn't really "him" you're addressing...it's the universe. it's the larger picture...and you're speaking with intent at that YOU you wish to be. then you cut all ties w/ him bcuz w/ distance there is a clearer mind. you have to break the habit and you find other interests to keep yourself occupied. you laugh on occasion even if it's forced...to get back to your fun loving self, until it is natural again. but always, always are you vigilant after wards of the possibilities of it happening again. always on the lookout for the signs of betrayal from both yourself and manifestation of it around you. you DON"T need to go through that lesson again, unless you chose to.

and this brings us back to the attacks/stalking. hopefully with a clearer understanding of what i'm speaking. do not hold firm to any one belief about anything you are always learning, developing, changing. by focusing on only love & light you leave plenty of space open for attack. as well as ignoring the situation...brings you to the same place. even those that believe too strongly in protective rituals, guardian angels, etc. when they don't work it's cause for even greater alarm. in all these "reactions" you restrict the flow of new information. the ultimate information being that you are more powerful than all of the things that happen to you, and there is no need to react, respond to anything you don't want to give that power away to. (this also goes along with pys-vampires, etc...but that's another thread).

i'm not sure if any of this helps. but what keeps being repeated here is only HALF the solution. it's important (although who am i to say so) that you don't just sum it all up so simply with a "conclusion", but that you keep going with it. not until it drives you completely mad of course, but until it feels balanced...then you are nearer the truth. taking the whole thing too seriously is NOT the correct answer, and neither is taking it TOO lightly. in between there is something that will work. i promise you, but remember...not "work" to keep these things from happening, but work to change your perception of what is happening. that is all that matters!

sinceeerily:wink:
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going back to the "spirit-board" thing. we come in contact with people all day long, touch, interact, try to comprehend where they're coming from & what they're saying, but we usually measure it against where we're coming from & what we chose to believe...so what's the diff? don't the same basic concepts for self-preservation carry through/across? or is the understanding here that people throw all caution to the wind when they think that god is speaking to them? anyway...people are far better conduits for all the information than a sheet of wood. i don't get why so many people have issues with the method? the same could said for the telephone.

Secondly, always be extremely wary of channeled sources.

The vast majority of channeling's are with people in the Astral who are actually no different to us except for the fact they are non-physical. They usually have no more true knowledge and often have less, depending on their own evolution. The danger is channeling lower level Astral beings who will claim to be anyone that might appeal to the channeler, very often Archangels Smile

i think it's ridiculous to think that channeling isn't something we're always doing. we're always asking questions, waiting for answers. we're always seeking advice and hoping for secret in's to it all. for me it comes from a million different directions (descending & ascending, buckling & inflating all at once). and this is for those at the other end as well that think that the whole channeling thing is hogwash. i'm pleased with myself in that fact that i can find inspiration and wisdom in all things. i don't to see it to believe it, and it doesn't have to be of some "prove'n standard". it's not reserved to nietzsche, or string-theories.
it can be teletubbies and pineapple.  how long ago did fucanelli live and people are just beginning to figure out the messages now. we can only resist for so long.
i just don't get all the boxes people like to draw around themselves and everything around them them...seems to prolong the whole thing?!?

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yeah but if you specialized in answers no one would take you seriously. not that anyone takes anything seriously anyway. you could be like tony robins and own a lot of excrement though! the labyrinth, the wizard of oz, alice in wonderland, the cube, etc...there's been a reoccurring story throughout. RPG's are very much the same, and i've been hearing more about them from dreamers and AProjectionists. getting though the levels. anyway...
the simplest idea that repeats itself often in my life (physically & otherwise) is that there is no escape, bcuz their is no trap. i think we can ascend the illusion/all of this in an instant. i don't lean much toward the "human battery" idea either, but i do sense something in us all building some onion like construct "around" ourselves...where the more we learn, the more we gather...the more we build...the more trapped we become.

I sing the body electric
I celebrate the me yet to come
I toast to my own reunion
When I become one with the sun

And I'll look back on Venus, I'll look back on Mars
And I'll burn with the fire of ten million stars
And in time, and in time, we will all be stars

I sing the body electric
I glory in the glow of rebirth
Creating my own tomorrow
When I shall embody the earth

And I'll serenade Venus, I'll serenade Mars
And I'll burn with the fire of ten million stars
And in time, and in time, we will all be stars

had to add this bcuz it just keeps looping through my mind.
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i see so much information streaming from all sides? everything to me feels like this. leading one way or another. just ordinary people writing stories, music, screenplays, games, etc...but there's something else in it. whether it is to be deciphered or not, i can't say. i guess it could be like the million monkey theory...but it's so much more frequent than that.
it surrounds me.

god that's so selfish of you!
luckily there's always a soldier around to catch ya!!!

i shouldn't have said that i know. i guess that make me evil, but only to people that are too self-righteous...so name the punishment.

damn...i don't like this. now i don't feel like i can say anything...
...and this my (edit) thread. c'est la vie!
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[what isn't enlightenment?]

Dear BENK, long time no see. sometimes i feel like were communicating for the first time. i'm sure we've gone over all this before?!? i'd like to be able to say that people are free to think whatever they want to think, but something won't allow me to do that. something that sees a box full of blocks, and then i can't say that we are free to play with all the blocks we want. only the ones out of the box. the thoughts come from a box as well, and although you are free to pick and choose whichever suit you, and change that choice at will. does that equate to real freedom? is that a real choice? i guess that's as good as it gets for us here in the 3rd dimension/density...whichever.  
what isn't enlightenment?

Dear SOM, i wasn't trying to push anything on you. i was just giving a rough idea about the site...save you from the trouble, encase it wasn't your thing, but in between the stuff that the "average" person has a difficult time swallowing there is some good information, especially if you like physics. why do we keep searching? when we're happy why do we cease and desist? if there was really some great lizard conspiracy to keep us zombified...wouldn't they make it all fine and dandy, so we wouldn't look for something else? reminds me of the matrix once again. where mr.smith says that the original program didn't work bcuz it was too perfect. too walgreens...and people kept trying to wake themselves up?
i don't think that kind of happiness exists...the kind that just keeps going. it comes little spurts, and we want to experience it again, and that's what we keep searching for...sometimes so much so that miss the little spurts that do come, bcuz we want that first taste, that original feeling again.
it definitely has to do with clearing the mind, and experiencing everything as if it was your first time...and in that sense there would be no lessons to hold on to. we can't forget, so we can't let go, and we can't experience that freedom, that enjoyment bcuz we're stuck. but what the hell do i know??? i never claimed to have any answers what so ever.

as far as the aliens and negs are concerned...i guess you'll have to wait till you come up against one. nothing i say could convince or prepare anyone in any sense whatsoever. of course they've come quite a long with holographic technology.

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okay...being funky with the prose is fine and dandy enough.
no experience is needed.
feel free to hang in my thread as long as you wish...little fish.
keep on rappin'
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p.s. the subject of sex is always open for discussion. feel free to begin.