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Why don't you tell us what happened in your experience?

When my 3rd eye is "active" I can feel it, as if someone is trying to poke finger through the inside of my head and out the front.

quote:Originally posted by Aries

I havent met mine yet, but from what I have heard. If you AstralProject then just start yelling for one, he/she will come.

Areies....this isn't necessarily true.  I have had numerous projections where I did that very thing you describe, and no one ever came.

From my experience, I've come to learn that these guides will only make themselves known at a time when they see fit.  Or, perhaps we as astral travellers need to reach a level of vibrational attunement before we can decipher where they are.  After all, it is said that our guides are with us most (if not all) of the time, but perhaps we just need to filter our vision a certain way before we can 'see' them.

Ok...thanks for the explanation.  If I understand you right, it's almost like a slow motion, horizontal bunjee jump......where you extend to a certain point, and then travel back to the start.

[Analysis: Position]

quote:Originally posted by Candieapple
Has anyone ever had an OBE from lying on side?

Using the OBE Journal program, here are the results of ALL my OBE positions:

Analysis: Position

You've had 31 experiences (30%) in an unknown position.
On your right side, you've had 18 experiences (17%).
On your left side, you've had 11 experiences (10%).
On your stomach, you've had 19 experiences (18%).
On your back, you've had 22 experiences (21%).

As you can see, it is possible to have OBE's on your sides.  I just happen to have more on my back.

quote:Or has anyone tried "The Life Line Technique" laying on their back. Is it that the line can't go into the earth and must stretch out in the ethers? I'll try sitting next time.[]

I know that both glowsoftly and Ryan Kerr have had success with this in a sitting position.  Personally, I have never tried to project sitting down, simply because I don't have a chair comfortable enough to do so.

I am going to be experimenting with this technique some more.  Mainly, since I project from a laying position, I want to see a couple of things:

1) Instead of moving FORWARD to your death time, is it possible to imagine yourself moving forward to your birth time?  I would think that this is just a matter of personal perspective, and it can be done.

2) Do you have to use your solar plexus chakra to project, or can you do the same thing with your brow or crown chakras?

Those are things I want to look into, so if any of you are able to test them out and report back, I would appreciate it.

quote:Originally posted by James S
Secondly, Where is this 'proof' of a Demonic Ruler of the Astral? Would any of our more experienced Astral Projectors care to comment on this?

I have yet to see this infamous Demonic Ruler of the Astral.  But hey, I've only been doing this for over 5 years.  Perhaps he is avoiding me or something.

Hi 1Zenryoku,

First of all, I don't know you from Adam, so don't take offense to this.

The problem (?) I have with what you said is that you're doing exactly what GothicDragonX and others have done.  You take what YOU BELIEVE and speak it as truth to others.  

I may be misunderstanding you, and for that I apologize, but I'm basing my argument on your statement below:

quote:Originally posted by 1Zenryoku
Even I myself I take it from the theory of the multiverse that 2 of the diminsions are going to collapse on one another to form a combination or they will simply break through... Its not a matter on where they come from it a matter of what will you do to stop them!!!

In just that short sentence, you have revealed the following:

1) You are believing in a THEORY, not something that can be backed up.

2) Assuming that this theory is true, what is the basis for this theory?  In other words, how did they theorize that two dimensions (out of many, many dimensions out there) will somehow collapse on top of each other?

3) By saying "it's not a matter of where but what you will do to stop them," you're unconsciously making the statement, "Look, this is true whether you believe in it or not....I'm just the messenger."  Well, I need to know WHY people believe in something before I can learn to believe in it myself.  So perhaps you can tell us WHY you believe in what you say.

Looking forward to your reply.

Hey Ryan,

Yes, that was very detailed.  Thank you for the explanation.  I especially like how you compared it to being in a turn lane and not really thinking about it.

The only thing I was semi-confused on was when you said:

quote:
But When I got to the end of the line, I'm not sure if glow said this was good or not, but I'd imagine myself from the back end of this line, moving closer to the backside of the chair, my body.

Are you able to explain this a little bit better?  I can't tell if you're saying that after you moved to the end of the line, you repeated the whole process and started to move back along the line to the chair again.......Or, if at the end of the line, you imagined yourself turning your back to the chair, and sliding along the line BACK to where your body was (the starting point).

If you could clarify that statement, that would be great.

Douglas,

If that's the case, then I don't have a problem.  But I'll be damned if I learned how to do so many things (like astral projecting, brewing my own beer, mastering the art of thumb wars, etc) only to lose it all down the line!

Thanks for the explanation, amigo.

quote:Originally posted by Clow

... Degrading cultures are we now?

Hardly.  While I appreciate you being the spokesperson for the Mayan culture, I can assure you that this was meant as a light-hearted piece of humor designed to make some of you THINK about things.

I was just tired of seeing all the arguing regarding this war in 2012, all of it based on a calendar which mysteriously ends that year.  So I thought how funny it may be to find out one of these days that the calendar was simply stopped for some trivial reason and not some deep, spiritual one.

Sheesh, I can't believe I actually had to explain that to you.

Hi Divine,

First off, welcome to the forums.  It's good to have you here!

Now to address your post.  Basically, the way *I* separate a lucid dream from an OBE is simply the amount of control you have.

In other words, in an OBE, I have full control to do and think whatever I want.  In a lucid dream, instead of being in the drivers seat, I am in the passenger seat.  Kind of like I'm on 'auto-pilot', if you will.  It's more lucid than an ordinary dream, meaning that I am aware AT THAT MOMENT that I am not 'awake', but I don't have much control over the situation.

So you will have to analyze your experience and ask yourself, "Was I in FULL CONTROL during this time?  Or was it kind of like observing myself do things while I just went along for the ride?"

I mean, when it all boils down to it, there is not too much difference between OBE's, LD's, and plain dreams.  It's just a different level of awareness and control which separates them.

And the tricky part is, you could have a mixture of all three things in the same experience that you're trying to describe!

Anyway, I hope that helps.

Hmmmm.....I would think that if you're already laying there, and your astral eyes are wide open, then you've already made the transistion to using your astral body as opposed to your physical one.

Therefore, in that state, you should be able to just move your astral limbs and roll out.

Perhaps you can explain a little bit more about what happens while you're laying there with full astral vision.  Are you vibrating?  Do you feel anything?  Do you hear anything?  Can you move?  etc.

quote:Originally posted by astralspinner
It plays so bloody quietly it's barely audible, unless I turn the speakers up so high that an error beep would cause my ears to bleed.

[]  LMFAO  []

I don't think you necessarilly shifted your awareness to your projected double.

It almost sounds like the experience was over and done with, and only AFTER you woke up did you remember that you were having an unconscious projection.

Who knows what we do while we're unconscious, but you've just proven to yourself that your astral body does indeed walk around and do things.  It's just that our conscious mind usually has no memory of this when it returns and we wake up.

In this instance, however, you retained a part of that conscious memory.  Good job.

Didn't Jesus say, "I am of this world but I am not from this world?"

In other words, while coming from a non-earthly plane, he took on an earthly form to interact with us.

Much like each one of us have done in being born here.

He also said that the works that he did on this earth (water to wine, walking on water, healing the sick, raising the dead, etc), that we could do these works as well, and greater.

So if He was an alien, then that would make all of us aliens, IMO.  However, I'm of the belief that he wasn't alien in the extra-terresrial sense of the word.  He was spirit, incarnated into flesh....like you and I.

I never liked the idea that at some point in our spiritual future, we would simply merge into the ONE source (God?) and that would be the end of "us" as we know it.

However, I think your theory is interesting in itself.  The way you see it, it's almost like being a kid and getting everything you want.  If that were the case, you would never LEARN anything.  Whatever you want, you got.  There would be no sadness, no hardship, no struggle.

We incarnate on this Earth to learn these lessons, and to progress as spiritual beings.  So that the next time we are in a non-physical form, we are that much closer to maturity.

I agree with this....I just don't like to think that at the end of the road, after all this learning and progress, we simply merge back with the source of all energy.  Seems too vague and essoteric for me.

You could always open up an E-Trade account on their website (http://www.etrade.com).

I did that a couple years ago.  You open an account and fund it with X amount of dollars.  Then you can take any portion of that X amount of dollars and place it in whatever stocks you want.

You can follow their daily progress on that site, seeing the money gained and earned.

I invested mostly in tech stocks, but not large amounts....so at the end of the day, I think I walked away with almost $1,000 profit.

quote:Originally posted by math

Hi guys I just started reading this topic sounds great. Can someone point me in the right direction of the definitive picture for API? I think I read somewhere there was a web page devoted to it?

Thanks

Math

Here you go: http://www.astralpulse.com/locale

Hey Mark,

Thanks for doing that research.  I have never been to the UK, nor am I familiar with its geography.  I did approach it from the south east corner and fly up the east coast of the UK, going in a northern direction.  I was also flying pretty fast, so I can only assume that the large structures were big hotels or resorts.

Hey, now that I can get to the UK, I think I should pay a visit to Stonehenge!  

Anyway, thanks for looking into that a bit more.  I appreciate it.

I can only speak for myself here, so take it for what it's worth.

First of all, feeling the vibrations are NOT a prerequisite for having an OBE.  That's right, you can have a successful OBE and NEVER even feel the vibrations, so let's just get that right out there in the open.

Now, I have only experienced full waking sleep paralysis on a couple of occassions (even though I've had over a hundred OBE's).  This is because usually, when I exit my body, I am not thinking about the energetic changes that are happening when you pass through the physical realm into a higher realm.

I believe those who're too focused on the physical will feel these vibrations, because they are still focusing on their body, and using their body as a benchmark for their OBE progress....when you really should be using your mind as a benchmark for your OBE progress.

In other words, your MIND and AWARENESS has different levels of focus, and you should base all your progress on THAT instead of your physical body.

With that said, you asked the following:

quote:
Can you tell me if the full paralysis comes on

(1) a long time before the vibrations?
(2) just before the vibrations?
(3) After the vibrations?

From my experience, if you're experiencing the pre-OBE vibes, than you already ARE in the full paralysis state.  Trying to move during the pre-OBE vibes would result in you either moving your astral body, or not moving at all.

I say "pre-OBE vibes" because some of you think that the pulsating feeling you notice while relaxing is a mild form of the vibes...and then you go around saying how EASY it is for you to get the vibrations.  This is NOT the pre-OBE vibes.  What you're feeling in that case is one of two things: your heart pumping blood through your body or energetic centers pulsating with energy.

I'm rambling now, so I will stop.  Hope that helps.

In most instances, the paralysis you need prior to projecting is the paralysis where you can't move your body, even if you wanted to.

Just being numb and not feeling your body is a side effect from being in a deep trance....but that in and of itself may not be enough to have an OBE.

quote:Originally posted by glowsoftly
I'm trying to convince Jeff[8D] to help me write up a proper tech...hint hint Jeff []

No worries, Glow.  I'll help ya....but only if you give me a scooby snack! []

quote:Originally posted by Aries

What the hell are you talking about volcom?

I assume the same thing that GothicDragonX is talking about...Nonsense.

quote:Originally posted by glowsoftly
I asked who he was, the older guy said he always hung out there.

So in your estimation, would you say he was hung well? []

Hey Zarklon.  Sounds good.  Thanks for posting it, and I'll give your technique a spin tonight.

I agree with Beavis.  I can't do anything but tinkle and moan when I'm drunk.  Other than that, drinking in general has not seemed to affect my OBE progress.

Hell, I even brew my own beer as a hobby!  I would hate to give THAT up! []