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hello dae, may i ask, how often do you try to project a week as they say?

wow thats so cool!.

Facinating, thanks for the tips, you mention going back to your body or so you thought you did...it could of been possible you did, but stayed in very close orbit near your body with awarness down, its happened to me too, other than that, it would be so much easier if there was a sure fire way to do things, I know teleportation works,  I have done it succesfully a few times, with the void, the first thing you feel as you move beyond %50 mark is a sudden energy wind/liquid sensation envelop you, this increases than suddenly, your vision changes from backvoid to the destination, than it clears up when you get there, but it seems hit and miss, it just needs i think loads of practise I guess, the void got me my city and once nearly to f27, when I traveled to the US, I used the rope-lock-pull method, saw the sun going down very fast and was there, its incredible stuff once it can be done properly.

cheers.

Salutations

I have a rather unusual problem, I have about 2 years or so experience in out of body travel, how ever I don’t consider my self a Robert Monroe, or a Brucian in terms of years of experience, I have reached a stumble block which has me stubbed, its when I teleport to people, it always happens in the past, here is a typical incident.

"I lock on too (friend) scene fades to black void, than I awaken"

Other times I could actually feel I was right next to them, I do know from experience that the famous void as experienced by many others is a sort of time out zone, a null zone, or best described by a friend of mine where 'time and space folds in on its self' the problem is, how do I actually get fully through the void and into the area I wish to go to? I seem to manage 50-60% of the journey, which is really irritating after so many tries, and no I do not visualize my self there, the only one time I did successfully teleport was last year, using a rope pull method on person, I have tried this again, with very hit and miss results, so maybe and hopefully I can gather some rather good advice.

Cheers.

Hahah great experience man, wish i could project back when I was in school, flowers you say? where there flowers there before?

http://www.theoldpath.com/reikischool/kotopronounce.html

These are real chants you can use, the pronunciation is on the page, you do these by sitting on the floor or where ever, with your back straight and chanting (your mantra of choice) over and over as long as you like, this is not mumbo jumbo in your head thing, I can vouch with personal experiences, these are very powerful chants. Enjoy

A critique of Susan Blackmore's dying brain hypothesis

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/articles001.html

I found this free e-book, a realy great read, it realy goes into good detail on the way males are treated in our western society, and also its very easy to read to.

http://www.rulymob.com/

free e-book

http://www.rulymob.com/scrorpap.htm

http://www.trufax.org/general/celldar.html

Good thing I dont use cell phones [xx(]

http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/wclose.html

I found a great article, sadly it's written in swedish, it seems to be on a whole group astral experience, I tried with bablefish and all, they couldnt do it well.

http://www.soultravel.nu/2004/040716-UKU-workshop/index.asp

Long long read, but very deep.
http://www.trufax.org/paradigm/paradigm.html

What was my experience?
What did I experience?
Was it an OBE?
What do the vibrations feel like?
Is it real?
Did I leave my body?
Can some one tell me what this is?

These and many countless variations of these sort of questions have been asked on every single astral projection forum, here and far, I have seen it over, and over, and over! The thing is, the person who asks, usually knows what they experienced, enough is enough! as explorers of other states of consciousness, from curious, beginner, in between and veteran, we as spirits can use our own minds! Now, ill be honest, early in my development, I asked such questions and i did know the answers, it came from the fact that i wanted some sort of reassurance, of course there are those who really don't know what is happening, but lets be honest, if you are asking such questions in an astral projection forum, you by now should have at the very least have some knowledge on it, so...What do I think happened? Etc
Ask YOUR SELF! You are the best guide; of course there are those who can give a lending hand, it little wonder why so many people have warped perceptions out of body! We are using other's perceptions, and expectations! Its like using some one else's reading glasses, all this was revealed to me the other day, with much gratitude to my lovely friend for guiding me to it (you know whom you are) be your own explorer! Explore, go father then any one else! When we rely on others perceptions and experiences, we limit our selves, we warp our perceptions deeply! discover for your self!

Please don't take this wrong or Offensively as I dont mean it in that way.

I have heard of many people doing this, that is meeting up in an out of body state in a pre arranged area, now the problem with meeting up is that its not guaranteed that every one will get out at that arranged time or even get out, so I have thought up a different plan, my plan is that every one, that's right, every one is free to come, and having a wide time window instead of a narrow one, this will vastly increase our chances of meeting, say for eg 6 hour window time period every day of the week at the bottom of the Eiffel tower eg, so lets storm up some idea, we need lots of people in this experiment, so pass this on to other like forums.



cheers.

So lads, in the name of fairness and ballance what do you look for in a partner what ever that is a girl or a guy ...

Greetings every one.

I write this post to share an experience in what "may" of been an experience to API, please bear in mind, before arriving there, I have read a little about API, but I have had no real interest of visiting there, my little experience went as follows-

upon leaving my body, I felt that I floated up, through the ceiling and outside, I felt the warm sun on my face or so it felt, than all of a sudden, I see this bar of blue and grey spin round and round, I focus on it, and to my surprise, it turned out to be an ocean with two large cliffs sides close on each side, as soon as I saw this, as fast as a rocket I shot right up there, upon reaching there, I suddenly hear this mighty roaring sound, to my curiosity, I look down to my total surprise to see my self right above and between these two cliff edges, and beneath me waves where crashing against the jagged rocks and steep cliff face, it was very sharp, above me was a cloudy, almost rain filled sky, where I went? I have no idea, it is interesting to note, before my journey, I asked my higher self of assistance, and I think, even to show me something.

What was unusual was that instead of ending up in the yard or out doors, I had ended up there, and from the descriptions of API, it does some what sound simmilar to API, to make things easier for the reader, I have included an illustration of what I saw, please bear in mind this is not 100% as I saw it, but should give an idea, I will create another image very soon to give a better illustration.

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=8102830

Good day

Hello all, I am not into energy body development, how ever, I have this question, and maybe you people could help since its more your "area" any way, last week or so, my root chakra or so it seems, seems to be active on its own, it feels like a continuing pulsating feeling that go's up and down, could any one shed light on this.

thanks

before I start, I would like to say i have an intense intrest in the mechanics of what happens in the OBE process and the mechanics of the astral dimension, here is a theory I wrote up earlier, feel free to read  

What causes vision distortion?
The very problem that plagues OBER"S both beginner and advanced, I have heard theories about this, when one is out of body, there consciousness seems to transfer to the astral double, properly via the astral cord, how ever, when vision and even mental clarity seems to fade, in forms such as ex: blurred vision, milky like substance, fogginess etc, it could be due to, first and for most, lack of focus, since we are in possession of two entities, that being, your human body and your astral body, when we loose focus while OB, the astral double may seem to "loose reception" a good analogy of this can be like a cell phone, when you have your cell phone in an area of very low to no coverage, the signal gets so weak, that the phone steps down, and goes back to a search mode "searching for network" the same thing may happen while OB here is a chain of events comparing the two:

Cell phone--> loosing reception--> total loss of reception--> back to search


Physical body-> separation (tune into astral)-> OB-> loss of focus-> visual/mental clarity fade->total loss of consciousness or visual (black void)->back to physical body (astral body attempts to retune to astral dimension or a reset)


So when you loose clarity or totally black out what ever it may be consciousness or visual or mental or any, your astral body says, "well I am no longer in tune with the astral and ends in the "void" I better go back to my physical body and try and retune to the dimension, perhaps the chant, "clarity now" helps with focus and staying in "tune" in the astral.

The black void:
Many times I and many other OBER"S have come across a void, you are conscious and aware, you are in your astral double at this stage, how ever, nothing but void surrounds you, this may last seconds or minutes, you may come into the void, by either, loss of focus (read above analogy) or during the separation of astral body (astral blindness) or during lucid dreaming when the subject in the lucid dream looses focus and the dream scene totally disappears into a dark void of nothingness but awareness may remain and they may wake up.
I have a theory about this void, the void seems to be a place where the astral body tunes into the astral dimension, a "time out zone" so the astral body may say, ok, I am in the void, let me tune into the astral dimension, its like when you tune your radio and while your searching all you get is static, I am very interested in this void, perhaps the void is a huge gate way to other higher dimensions, perhaps if you arrive accidentally in the void, you can tune other dimensions, such as mental, budhic etc, perhaps astral blindness may be due to the fact that the astral body has not fully tuned into the astral, and when visuals returns, it's fully tuned in, its interesting to note, that consciousness is first tuned in, than visuals afterwards, now many may say, well how come I can see through my eyelids during the separation process? Well, I to have seen through my eyelids a few times, but it quickly dissipate back to the void but with awareness still activated, during this, you get the usual symptoms, vibrations, sounds, bangs, voices etc, but I will stay with my theory of lack of mental focus, now these are just theories,

I have read about bio-magnetic hold causing astral blindness, a good theory, but, there has to be more than that, I do not believe the astral body is made of energy like any thing found in the 3rd dimensional universe, so I seriously doubt, any form of magnetic energy could alter it, feel free to discuss this, I am not saying this is the utter truth, but, I would love to hear your opinions and theories on the matter.

hello every one
I have a rather curiosity towards rv, but i have seen so many course and what not online going for $2-$3k!? thats insane to learn some thing that is natural and available to everyone, where can one learn rv for free?

I have read about blind nder's experiences, what about blind people who have obe's? i would love to read some experiences of them or some thing, i have never heard of there experinces before.

well for the last week, i just cant seme to get out of my body, it doesnt realy bother me to much, i am not in a rush, but my body floats out, and it just gets stuck there at my head, and no matter what, i just wont seem to disconect, has any one experienced this?


secondaly, this morning, vibrations came on, and i said stuff floating out, so i got out manualy out of my body, as soon as i did, i felt this very light veil come of me, and i felt this sudden pull on my head...hmmm i start to think, what could it be i thought, so i reached around with my astral arm to the back of my head, and behold, i felt this 2" thick elastic cord, my astral cord i gave a slight tug on it, and my face felt sort of funny, better not pull it out lol, and around the astral cord, where dozens of tiny elastic, hair thin like strings, i actualy pulled a few out easily, and they made slight snap sounds as i did, has any one experienced this?

There many songs out there with amazing lyrics that speak great truths, so go and post any that have a close place to you for me it has to be Blue oyster cult- dont fear the reaper
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All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
Seasons don't fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain..we can be like they are
Come on baby...don't fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper
We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper
Baby I'm your man...
Valentine is done
Here but now they're gone
Romeo and Juliet
Are together in eternity...Romeo and Juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...Like Romeo and Juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...Redefine happiness
Another 40,000 coming everyday...We can be like they are
Come on baby...don't fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper
We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper
Baby I'm your man...
Love of two is one
Here but now they're gone
Came the last night of sadness
And it was clear she couldn't go on
Then the door was open and the wind appeared
The candles blew then disappeared
The curtains flew then he appeared...saying don't be afraid
Come on baby...and she had no fear
And she ran to him...then they started to fly
They looked backward and said goodbye...she had become like they are
She had taken his hand...she had become like they are
Come on baby...don't fear the reaper

As many as you enlightened souls already know, words and thoughts DO create every living second of your reality, what I have learned from this is, that intent can also aid you into obes, I have been saying to my self over and over and over again, but out aloud or in my mind, with intent and courage, that I will obe! That I will become fearless, so far I keep waking up in the vibrational states every day know, and I have been feeling much braver in waking life to.

So for the new comers to obes, give intent a serious try, it will help so much! And you can use it for waking life as well.

All the best
Manuel

For those who don't know, valerian is a natural herb, it helps relax the muscles and nervous system and anxiety, and can also be used to make you naturaly sleep, well, i decided to use it before an atempt at astral projection, even though i did not ap, i was much more relaxed after taking valerian, and i felt the hold on my astral body looser than usual, you can by this valerian in tablet form at chemists in vitamin sections and all, it's worth the 10 dollars imo.

Cheers.

Hello everyone
I have this natural ability to obe without any form of concentrating before hand, meditation, i just wake up after 6 hours of sleep, stay up for an hour, than go back to sleep, and i wake up in that paralysed state and i take it from there on, this was 3 months ago, the last time i did obe, this nasty thing could of been my ego of fear jumped on my back and started shaking me, it was rather creepy and put me of obe for sometime, now the problem is, i get to creeped out when i obe indoors, each time i have tryed, i keep thinking, what if that thing comes back again? what should i do? i read Robert Bruces online version of doing things lile placing garlic, music and light, infact when that thing had a go at me, i had the blinds open, it was daylight, and music was playing, so how on earth did this thing get it? any help so greatly apreaciated, i realy want to obe agin badly!
cheers.