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#226
Ohhh it isn't dangerous or unhealthy, it's fun!!

Personally, I've only been able to willingly create that sensation while playing a video game, and I try to feel what it'd be like to be in the character's position, having Invincibility and dropping from the highest point in the tallest world. Feels awesome.

This falling sensation could lead to OBEs, so keep at it!

Later
~FT
#227
No Leaf Clover, I am glad that such posts and topics have helped you grow as a person, and THAT IS WHAT I WANT. However, all I am seeing is people creating cults.

So far almost all the people I have talked to about aliens have practically worshipped them, and just like some Christians I've met, tend to believe that the human race cannot help itself, and that we need some kind of awesome superhero from the stars to come and save us.

Many people could have grown and developed as you did from those posts, but most of the people I have talked to have the mentality of "oh yeah I was right about the aliens, now I will believe everything this person says about them, preach about them, and yell at people when they don't believe my beliefs about aliens." For this I apologize.


What I'm really trying to say is that self-growth and development like this used to be much more common, and now it is nothing but people running around claiming that they can do things or talk to beings that I have already read and researched about, and all their claims contradict that research. On top of that, their claims seem to be creating cults. That is, armies of people who will blindly believe their claims and make themselves feel special. I know that you don't fit in this category, No Leaf Clover.

Remember that time when we had a huge flood of people who were asking how to use ki?? Remember how annoying that was? It just feels like we're having the whole episode happening all over again, but about 5 different belief systems/cults at the same damned time.

As for the alien believers, I apologise to those of you who are honest and interested in the matter, but I hope that all of you who are making all of it up would just go away.

Later
~FT
#228
Welcome to Astral Chat! / has anyone seen ghosts?
February 14, 2004, 15:43:50
Yeah, I've already told you that I've seen one, but for the sake of everyone else I'll tell it again.

I was asleep, and I woke up. Above me I felt a presence, so I flick on my light. And there it was. A shadow that was darker than the night so that even in the blackness you could see it. Two holes opened up in it's horned "head," and they just looked at me. I figured they were eyes. I didn't get into "kill-mode" like Neo did, so it didn't go away. I just stared and it stared back, and a feeling of dread and wonder filled me.

I'll never forget that, and it happened when I was like 7-10 years old. Worst thing is that nobody believes me because they all think that "ghosts" are meant to be glowing white sheets or orbs or something.

~FT
#229
I haven't read the replies to this because I don't need to.

All I have to say is that you're stepping on people's beliefs, and from my experience that is a very unwise thing to do. Don't do it [:(!]
#230
Well yeah, you can, you order them from the Centrepointe website, which you can probably do at an internet cafe or someone else's computer. But with your own PC there are methods to get them for free!

As for Holosync, it's one track with the binaural on it.

Later
~FT
#231
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Revolutions and bad karma
January 28, 2004, 01:13:03
Thanks for that.

For those of you who are wondering, I just have extremist views on how this world can be turned around and stop eating thier own asses through their corporate/materialistic lives. I often talk about it and I daydream of leading revolutions, though I know the real possibility of it all is next to nil.

Speaking of which, I've even been called by one of my friends as "the next Hitler." Scary thought haha[|)]

~FT
#232
If you get that powerful you will be the first person in history to ever accomplish it.

It was probably you directing psychic attack at him. Most people get very weak negs attached at them if they are picked on or hated by a lot of others, because others are not "in tune" with their psychic abilities so they only send very weak negative energy.

Later
~FT
#233
Try a good filesharing program. Kazaa isn't what I'm talking about.

DC++ is really good, and I have a few friends on AIM like Tom (anyone remember him?) who has a lot of Holosync tracks that he shares with me and others.

Most people, however, don't share the deeper levels of holosync because they put their own subliminal voice tracks on it. Tom said he won't do that, which is awesome.

I already have the first level of Holosync on my computer, absolutely free, thanks to him

[|)]FT
#234
I already meditate every now and then. And although I don't do it frequently it has given me the ability to listen to music in my earphones while doing homework, something my teacher told me I couldn't do.

Funny story - he tells me that for creative thinking and all that that I cannot have music in my earphones, but I can have music everywhere else. I have been able to concentrate with my techno for years, and now, thanks to meditation and a simple mind trick, I can listen to Metallica while doing my homework perfectly. What a dickhead, thinking he can tell me what's what about my mind. Anyways, the music becomes like background noise in my mind, and before I know it the song is over. If I were to concentrate on the lyrics and the beats, then I would not be able to do my homework as well because my mind would be lending more energy to listening to the song. Stupid teacher.

Anyways, meditation does help. Whenever I do meditate I go for about 20 minutes or a bit longer.

Later
~FT
#235
Thanks for that acidmax, it clears a lot of things up.

So will I be better off or worse off without these "long-term" binaurals? I choose not to use them but I'm afraid of whether or not I should use them for a bit of help...

~FT
#236
I don't get how the scoring system works.

Please help..

~FT
#237
Congratulations! As for me, I still haven't even come close [:(]


Sounds nothing like what I would expect an astral projection to be like but, meh, everyones different.

Later
~FT
#238
Umm...I meant...jerks. D*ckheads, annoyances...

~FT
#239
Well the question moreover is whether or not you should use astral projection binaurals. I mean, they have zillions of levels to help you go deeper because you sort of become addicted.

What I'm getting at is that binaurals probably don't teach you the skills to project, and like drugs, probably bypass a lot of natural barriers and such to get out there, which can sometimes be a bad idea.

Any other thoughts?

[|)]FT
#240
As far as I'm concerned, a lot of scientists are total fags on this topic. They keep trying to go on about OBEs simply being in the brain, and that's what pisses me off.

Okay, fine. Take all of our beliefs, and put them in a box. Now lock the box and throw it in a furnace. That's what you're doing when you say OBEs are in the brain. It takes all sense of purpose that thousands have, and throws it out the window. Stop trying to research it with the biased mindset that it doesn't exist.

That sort of experiment with the symbols being placed in strategic places is probably the best experiment I've heard of. I wish them luck with that. As for Professor French, you won't ever fully understand NDE because you're too analytical and close-minded about the universe residing in the physical.

~FT
#241
Well, mana, like all other names such as qi and psi, is just energy. Calling energy specific names causes more problems than it solves. If you're wondering how to use mana, it all depends on which version of Final Fantasy you're playing. If you're wondering how to create mana, you can't create it. Energy isn't created. It is transfered and transformed, hardly ever created. As for "absorbing it," it all depends on your beliefs.

Later
~FT
#242
I believe the phenomena of dèjá vú can be categorised into two distinct types:

1)Something happens, and then you could swear you have seen it before

This one is the more enigmatic of the two and is either very weak precognition or just some bad wiring upstairs. This one is also very common.

2)Something happens, you swear you have seen it before, but at the same time, you think of something MORE happening, and it happens.

This is closer to precognition than the other one, and less enigmatic. For example, I walk into a room and somebody says something. I feel that I have heard her say the same thing before, and I also think/know that someone else in the room will say something. Lo and behold, he says it. This can continue, but I suspect that going "Woah! Déjà Vú!" can screw it up. This one isn't very common for me so I can't really toy with it.

As for seeing the future, the astral planes are timeless, so it doesn't surprise me that you could be able to see past, present, and future at the same time, eventually even in the physical world.

~FT
#243
Of course it doesn't make it NOT true. But preaching about aliens doesn't make it TRUE either.

Let me tell you what happened to me.

I hear bumps and creaks all through the night, because I have a metal roofing and it expands and contracts as it heats and cools. Anyhoo, the typical bumps were going on. And they stopped.
After reading another chapter of Lord of the Rings, I layed down to sleep. Then I hear this big THUD-like creak outside my bedroom (on the roof outside). I think "what's that!? who's there!?" Immediately I think aliens, because I have had a fear of abduction for a long time. Then a voice in my head says "I am a Zeta." Then I say "No you're not." Immediately the presence was gone. I created it. So all your telepathic communications with these aliens can't be proven. It all happens inside your mind which means that it could just be a sign of schitzophrenia or just that you enjoy talking to yourself.

But then again, me saying that doesn't prove that I'm right either. The simple matter of it is just as I said. Continue evolving yourselves, and stop preaching to everyone. We all know how annoying Reverend Lovejoy is, and you're just like the Church - but worse. If I don't want your beliefs, leave me be. Stop telling me to wake up.

This one girl I know was listening in to an audio conversation I was having with someone from the Astral Pulse. We started talking about how close we were to OBE and she's like "YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!" Do we tell her to shut up? Do we preach to her that it is real? NO! We accepted that she just wanted to believe what she wanted to and continued talking.

~FT
#244
I know I just came off as very bitter. But that's just because I am extremely annoyed. This is just like ki, except the people who preach it can spell and own actual websites instead of being hosted on tripod. Oh yeah, and then those web designers go off and write books. It's just like ki, but on a grander scale and more believable. Stop taking sides.

Let's deduce the obvious with professor FT:

If the aliens are nice, they want us to evolve ourselves.

If the aliens are mean, they want something spiritual from us, and the obvious thing to do to protect ourselves is to evolve ourselves.

So just lay off your fanatical preachings and fears and hopes, it won't change a thing. Just evolve yourselves. That's what I was doing anyways before this whole alien crap got involved, and I'm sure a good bunch of you were also doing just that. We don't need some parental figure to "save" society. Things are exactly how they need to be. If you want to save society, go sign up for politics instead of dancing on the roofs of skyscrapers, praying that you see a UFO.
#245
Ybom, my sig is for laughs, not serious spiritual debate [|)].

As for all of you who blab on about density levels, aliens, blah blah whatever, they're all theory, and theory means "what if." Can't prove a thing until you die. As for me, I just believe there is an astral plane and I leave it at that for me to explore.

Later
~FT
#246
Being happy makes anything easier. Positive outlooks make you more open to learning and performing to the best of your ability. Negativity leads to self doubt and a closed mind. So yes, happiness is a key to success.

~FT
#247
It's a good thing you wrote that all out for many to see, for not many learn those things by themselves. I have, but not everything you wrote there. Much appreciated!

[|)]FT
#248
Good point, Rodentmouse. The reason you and even I are uncomfortable with these things is because you can't just point and say "that is the astral plane" while in the OBE environs. It's just too much for us to understand.

I own a copy of The 12th Planet, but I have so much material to read I haven't actually gotten around to it yet. But it doesn't "prove" the source of life on earth, or the place man came from. It's as much a theory as the big bang or God. Yes, God is a theory.

~FT
#249
Well, I'm sorry Van-Stolin but I do not believe all the theories and babble and hype surrounding the Zetas/Greys, and the newly "discovered" "Reptilian" race either. And yes, for all you readers who "know" about the Causal (whatever you want to call it) Plane, there are planes above it. The highest plane is allegedly "God," the highest of high beings. The Source of all Life.

Later
~FT
#250
The problem is that quantum physics doesn't really connect to any other form of physics, like an earlier reply said. But metaphysics isn't physics either. Meta means beyond. It's beyond physics people, it isn't physics. Stop trying to explain these things scientifically - you're throwing wrenches into the workings of other peoples' beliefs and it's rather annoying. The last thing I want is for my spirituality to be thwarted by science. That just makes life insignificant.

~FT