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Quickly - Thankful - you mentioned your daugher is now sleeping on a magnetic blanket, and its been helpful. A word of warning - keep a close watch on this, its possible the magnets might suddenly flip and their effects become detrimental. If this happens, remove them immediately and contact me, by then I "might" be able to give instructions on how to flip them back again. I have a lot of stuff to learn first though []

Tayesin - I will try to keep this brief, I feel very small in the face of thankful and cprinces contributions, I bring little more than philosophy. Which is ultimately slightly meaningless.
Thanks for your polite response.

quote:I can say that there are generalised reasons, because I am clear enough to see and receive insight into some things, and, viewing from the bigger pictures in, provides much more insight than seeing from the little soul perspective most of us are still using.

How very carefully worded...but you are hiding a lot in these words, and a lot more in others. But thats your business, not mine. By the way, you dont know me as well as you think [].
Back on track, I am afraid I cant simply take your word for it, and I am suprised that would ask us to.

quote:Umm, negs are scum ? In my experience Inguma, what are called 'negs' here are simply other beings who use their portion of the Light/Energy for Darker purposes. That makes them Beings who choose, it does not confer the human concept of Evil-ness upon them, it allows us to see that we are working inside a Duality zone where these things are played out for our ultimate benefit.

Please, call me Rob.
Negs inflict massive pain, they corrupt, force, brainwash, even torture and rape and much more. If you say they are not evil what you are essentially saying is that evil does not exist. But by the same logic, neither does good. It may be your choice to reject the concept of these polarities, but I'll say now that this is ultimatelely no more than semantics.

quote:I explore and experience with no Beliefs to cloud my perceptions.

Then I am happy for you. However, you do still outright reject the possibility that iron could affect negs, unless perhaps we place belief in it. Why? Are you saying your experience covers all of reality?
In my reality, physical things can and do affect the atmosphere, negs, etc. Running water does work, so maybe iron does too. One day I will make a neg gun, and that too will work.

quote:What part did you (as the Soul you are)play in the reality of those events ? It is a viable question that needs to be looked at. As you know, nothing happens without us having some form of responsibility for it. Never is anything totally one-sided, never are we a Victim unless we allow ourselves to be. Everything works as a co-operative creationing that WE are a part of.

Its possible I did choose to be put that pain, but it makes no diffierence to that fact that I was absolutely a victim at the time and there was nothing I could do about it. Whether I chose to, or not, its not something that concerns me. What concerns me is what IS. I dont think that is a little soul perspective, I think it is firmly rooted in Reality and not just concepts. The greatest of men were also the most grounded.

quote:I hope I succeeded on that score.

In part, but I think we are both very aware of how difficult it is - no, not difficult, down-right impossible! - to change anyone elses point of view.
We both base our belief systems on what we know from experience. I hope that one day we both rise to a point where our perceptions cover both points of view.

I had another thought earlier - given the option of letting God lay down my life path, as part of His Plan, or of making choices and setting down fields of view, I would choose the former. Probably []

with love

Rob





EDIT -

One final thing, and I know this isn't my argument but I do feel srongly about it:

quote:When we have such responses to things it indicates that we have an issue to deal with. And for those who wish to live completely honestly, we then recognize such and deal with it. This is always followed by more clarity.

I dont think my comtempt, disgust and hatred of the viler aspects of humanity is unreasonable, nor invalid, unnecessary, or anything like that. In many ways its just as valid as my love for the Light, and although I sometime wish I didn't have to have those feelings, I do and I think that they are necessary.

Disclaimer:
Tayesin - if I come across as rude, its probably because I'm in a bit of a foul mood right now, but its making me speak my mind (yep, all just my mind and the opinions of an imperfect human being). So apologies I offend, but:

quote:So, ask yourself.. if I am experiencing these things (Psychic Attacks), what choices have I made to experience this. And, what can I do about it ?

First, its my opinion that you are wrong. But frankly I dont think its relevant.
If you are right, then who are you to say what the reasons are? How can you tell that the reason was not to learn about the properties of iron, of running water, how negs are scum and we must learn to defend against evil, etc etc? Ultimately you dont, you're just making assumptions based on what you believe to be true.

You think our philosophies are outdated. Well guess what? The feeling it mutual. Your philosophy is practically unworkleable, and IMO, taken to an extreme we could sit here until we starve, and when we end up dead say "hey, thats the way it was supposed to be! I planned this before incarnating, so no worries - at least I know now the value of eating!".
You dont need and of this fluff to learn from lifes experiences.

The basis of your philosophy originated in the far east, from where it was taken, altered to taste, and mixed together with a load of other stuff in a big melting pot, with a huge dollop of channeling thrown in for good measure. The resulting dish was called "new age", and its a shame how many people swallow it whole without checking for unhealthy side effects.
Anyway, one of the biggest proponents of this "your create your own reality 100%" idea was Jane Roberts, channel of Seth. She died of cancer, while Seth whittled on about taking apart and reconstructing her belief system. If she couldn't make it work against cancer, then what chance does anyone have of using it to evict a neg?
Bear in mind that once, I did just what I said above - swallowed new ageyness without questioning. It was sweet to taste and I was naive. I have since dropped the "you create your own reality" model, because I just couldn't make it work. When I was 5 I did NOT create the evil that attached itself to me. I did not create the paralysis, the overwheling fear, the dread. Nor did I keep myself awake at night all week, hypnotised and unmoving and scared more than I can describe. Nor did I create the unending procession of shadows I saw walking through my room. I was innocent, completely innocent, and anyone who says otherwise is an.....is wrong.

Yes, I feel embaressed for anyone who disagrees, just as I feel embarressed that once, on the old forums, I argued with McArthur (think it was) that the poor people in Bangladesh create the floods that regularly kill so many. I clung to that belief system and the torrents of logic washed unseen around me. I was such a fool!
But now, I know that sometimes, things just happen, thats the world we live in and if all we had to do was wish it away, it wouldn't be half as much of a challenge. And if it is all part of a grande plan, I honestly dont care, because then what I do is still a part of that plan, and I still have to do it.

I think I have now addressed well enough why I think that pre-life contracts are irrelevant, and why I dont think we totally create our reality, so I'll get off my now smoldering soapbox and leave it at that. btw I am not arguing you cannot alter you reality, depending on the effectiveness of your magic.



Cpince:

quote:By the way, you guys think that HHG is effective to expel negs? Anyone has any experience?

I have some experience. HHG's and similar fun create a more energetically active and positive environment in which negs find it more difficult to act out their machinations. I doubt orgone devices could be used to fully expel a neg from a person, but I am open to being proved wrong. Perhaps in the long term. Or perhaps if they were used as tools to amplify magick. So they help, but are not a "final solution" har har di'har [] (oh deary deary me someone put me down!! lol!!).

quote:These are not the words from me but a insider source.

Who's that then??!
Karl did not teach The Don anything, don croft simply examined one of his products a friend had bought for $500 and said "I can do that for $0.50!!" or words to that effect.
There are a lot of humongous, gigantics egos flouting around the orgonite scene. Vast, leviathons of egos. Ego's so huge no humility can escape. etc etc []. Not saying your source is of course, but just thought I should mention it!!
Lol, I'll just...umm...go now hehehehehehe.

<smiles>

Rob <-----fool!!!!! ROFL

ps lol I'm so going to regret being so sharp tomorrow but hey, every once in a while eh, maybe I'll learn something from it. But hey, am feeling better now, think I just needed to get it out my system.

pps anyone noticed how similar "new age" sounds to "new world order"?...

[IS]

EDIT - I am editing this post because I was being a little grump earlier. Silly me! I was in an unspeakably foul mood aka "bit stinky" [xx(][]

quote:How can you say this for sure? How do you know that all these things are negs, and not just the doings of their own soul/being? I believe people do not take enough responsibility in their own doings but look for other reasons or excuses because they can't face that just PERHAPS, they made their own reality.

We know these things from experience, both inner and outer, by using logic and by keeping our eyes open.
Cases are numerous of possession leading to death, and not just of the possessed - they, perhaps unfortauntely for them, often survive. Eyes open! You hear obvious cases in the news occasionally (and RB could tell the story of when he was possessed, and nearly ended up dead along with his son). But these are just the most extreme cases, like cprince mentioned, its more likely to occur through ongoing influence and corruption.

quote:It was meant to happen that way

IMO, if everything is supposed to happen, there there is no "not supposed to happen". A condensation of this argument is therefore - everything IS, as was the creators intent.

Rob

quote:"Crazy nutter" whould be a more proper description

I embrace you like a long lost brother!!!!!!!!!1 ehehehehe

Try google.com []
...oh OK! Here's one http://www.windsofchange.eu.com/chakra.html
But its best you read a lot of sources to build up a general picture.

Rob

Hey again,,

I am totally unfamiliar with the idea of voltages around the cells, so thanks for the lowdown on that! Out of interest, how you read any accounts of anyone over-doing it with the MWO? I'm wondering if thats possible. I guess (thinking aloud here), that standard thinking would say that too much and the bodies own mechanisms would become lowered, as they dont have to work hard (like astronauts who spend too much time in space and get muscle wasteage). But then we are exposed to so much negative EM noise and etc, like the 60hz wave you mentioned, that perhaps lots of MWO would balance it. Thoughts?

I remember RB saying something along the lines of how the quest for physical immortality could be equated to stopping the energy drain from the body as we go through life. Which could easily be rlated to the cell voltage thing. Hhmm.

all the best
Rob

You know, a lot of this relates to perception, or rather limits in your perception based upon whats inside you and what you expect to see.
The goodness in humanity is all around, if only you have the eyes to see it.

quote:Saints don't start that god crap in my topic. Your god never came down face to face looking you dead in the eyes so don't say it exist. (Fools use faith)

LOL!! Pathetic!!!! Your rant against Gods existance (faith) is the pure polar opposite of someone who believes for no reason (also on faith). And dont give me any crap about how you really do have an open mind, please?
Actually, I have seen what was unquestionably the work of the hand of God a couple of times, in action. And once, I prayed for God to materialise in my bedroom and speak to me. I felt a build up on POWER infront/next to me, and promply shat myself []. Taught me damn well I wasn't ready to see what I had asked for, I'd put money on the fact that the same applies to you, even though you might deny it (I would have done too, now I know better).

quote:So basically what most of you are trying to say is we must pay to keep on living in this world. Money=water,electricity,home,food,car, and so on.

To exist in this world we have to take - food, water, electricity, etc. So its only fair that we give too - if everyone only took, we would all very soon die a horrible and nasty death. We live here, we have to deal with how it is. Money is just a convenience that makes the process of giving and taking much easier. Thats all.

Rob

Interesting....

quote:and destroying a neg for someone isn't really helping them at all, just making room for another to take its place. It might buy them some time, but ultimately they are the only ones who can help themselves

Like others have already said, what of children? A different situation? But, aren't most adults just big kids in disguise, when it comes right down to it? (um...)

There are only one distinction I make - if the negs is already attached, or if it isn't. Former - banish away. Latter - banish and help.
But while it is in some ways true to say that people can only change themselves, you can definately give them a hand. To reverse the old addage, true you cant force a horse to drink (not easily, anyway []), but you sure as hell can lead it to water.


The tiger analogy - IMO all the airy healing stuff has merit, but it has to be done before the fact. Embracing the ideal of a tiger and letting your fears drop away "might" help it not to show up in the forest at all, but if it does, them loving it (lol) wont help matters (certainly! Oh dear..). Same with negs - once its there, you have to have an effective strategy for dealing with it. Sending it your love and thanks just isn't effective, IMO, which is why people who actually get into this in a big way to help folks, dont use it. They spend *YEARS* learning how to banish, or have faith like a mountain, etc.
I once prayed for an entity that woke me up in the middle of the night, only to get "f*** your god, f*** your god" back telepathically. Neg is still attached, btw...
The only exception is by raising your base consciousness level through spiritual practise that the attachments just drop away, or so I'm told, but thats a long term thing. Raising you consciousness for 2 minutes wont cut it.

Kalratri well maybe your post was rude, and I know I shouldn't say this, but it did make me laugh []. I like people who speak their mind, dont you Nay?!! []

quote:People do crimes because they have no morals, or conscience (sic) and are too lazy to get out there and live in society the way it was meant, thus taking from others when they have no right to.

Not a very loving philosophy!! Another option, they commit crimes because they have no choice, and nobody has tried to help them?

laterz...?

Rob

Love is good, but action is also sometimes necessary.

Well, Dion Fortune says that Mulkuth is also like the anus of the tree of life (!), and that negs and such can be considered forms which have been aahh ejected out the bottom of the tree or have come into being in this dark zone of negative energies. In a way then, if you were to take the kilppoth and place it below the tree, negs would be found in the zone between the two. So the higher you get up the tree, the larger the distance between you and them, and the more difficulties they have in affecting you.
Typically, all the forms on the tree are considered as perfect, so negs wouldn't really have any place to fit in there.
Rob

Liv Tylor.....mmwwwaaaaaaaaaaa.......she is a definite favourite for me [][]
Also - most the bond girls - especially Denise Richards! Strange, in the real world I normally end up fancying blonds, but I cant think of any blondes that have real caught my attention on the big screen. Oh no, I cant think of a few now....(wanders off smiling dreamily....SMACK as rob walks into a wall hehehe)

you might want to look into the various colours of the energy spectrum and how they relate to the human energy body, spirituality, etc.
You did hint that you are quite an angry person

quote:It's a coincidence for me that you mentioned the Multiple Wave Oscillator

Even more "coincidence" - I am currently reading Lakhovsky's book "The Secret of Life" - about half way through, he hasn't got to the MWO theory but I can kinda see where he is heading. Very good! You might want to get a copy - availabe from keelynet.com (reprint of an old translation from the original is french).
These things do tend to cost a lot of money though, which is a shame, but I guess cos so few people buy them.
I have had a quick look at the site, not exhaustive (I just watched a video from a US helicopter in fallujah committing war crimes and am feeling quite sick and angry - http://globalresearch.ca/images/Massacre%20of%20Civilians.wmv). Anyway, what interested the most was actually the violet ray device - I have heard of these in passing but never anything much specific.

quote:Do you have any interesting info on it that may not be common knowledge that might be gleaned form the internet?

HHmm, I dont think so, sorry! []
Do you know the general theory behind the MWO and other vibrational based therapies?

quote: Do you think it attracts orgone?

In orgone terms, I dont think so - the MWO works in sudden quick bursts. If we are talking orgone, it would be I think a fair guess to say that it realignes oranor fields and re-energises/breaks the static in dor. But still a guess []

quote:If so, then I imagine that your "intention" is important when your sitting between the antennae

Doubtful, intention would add another (radionic) aspect, not there before, and generally help effectiveness. I dont have experience on the MWO, and certainly shouldn't be taken as an "expert" (!), but I think the MWO, like other vibrational therapies, will work by itself.
Think of it like this - radionics (focused intention through the use of physical devices) and suchlike creates subtle vibrational fields which interact with people on very subtle levels, giving helpful healing information to the body, the force with which this info is given being defined by the effectiveness of the practitioner (will power, spiritual elevation, psychological factors, etc etc). Powered devices, such as the MWO, zapper, rife machine, etc forcefully impact the positive healing vibrations upon the patient in various different ways. Well, thats a rough lowdown on my working theory anyway! []
There's a lot I dont understand, such as the various different levels this info and vibrations are sent on (etheric/astral etc to the mystic, electromagnetic/virtual info packets perhaps to the physicist), but hey hope this helps anyway! But apologies if its old info to you, dont know where you are coming from as it were.
You mentioned your child had Cerebral Palsy  - I am so sorry to hear that, must be very difficult for you. Considering it, I think the MWO was a good choice! Perhaps you might be interested in looking into ORMUS, if you haven't already? I could suggest a good place to buy from if you are interested.

Ahh, am feeling a bit more human now - I enjoy talking about this stuff. That video made me so.......uch. Indescribeable.

quote:Have you heard about the "vibe machine"?

I "think" so, looking it up....ooohhh pretty!!!!! Veeeeeery pretty infact. Cool!! I would LOVE to have one of those to play with!!!! Looks like some sort of hybrid between rife and mwo, sweeeeeeeeet. Cheers for that! No, I dont think I have ever heard of them, must have been confusing it with something else.

all the best

Rob

Great thread guys, good to hear your stories

Cloud - http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm

Thats lateral thinking that is!

eyesight - 2 suggestions:
- Have heard bad eyesight can be related to stree
- Also seen examples where lots of energy being inputted into the body can help.

Do you meditate? Do energy work?
That said, I know one lady (mod here, donni_joy) who has bad eyesight, but she does not seem stressed and she was helping to write about on NEW so.....this might not be helpful! Experiment!! And maybe get your hands on some ORMUS (google it)

Rob

Shareza, sound cool, I'll remember that

quote:you can choose not to share, well you have to share something if your connected to the EMULE network

Frankly, I would like a feature on KLR that refuses to allow people who dont share to upload from me. Do you think this is unfair?

Hey again,

You know, I really wouldn't bother buying TB's, just make them yourself, its much more fun and you get to experiment doing other crazy things [8D]. A friend of mine made his out of tree resin for a while, you might want to consider this if you are financially strapped. Smells nice too!


btw the site you linked to is Wizzers site, guys intelligent enough  and I imagine his products are up to spec. But he didn't invent the term orgonite - like it says that was coined by Carl Welz, when he was in partnership with Ernie Vega (http://www.gocs1.com/ - now there are some products I would quite like to play with! Cybershaman is pretty cool too). They made it purely with organic and metallic powders, which are best used when you have something else to stimulate them (coils etc). Today many people use metal shavings, more self-powered in a way.
For instructions with the coil, I have seen other instructions around though none quite as lucid as wizzers.
On ernies site you will find some good info about scalar waves and how he reckons they can be produced from wires running next to each other. The site can be pretty tricky to navigate sometimes but its there somewhere! []

quote:so I assume the oscilloscope is sensitive enough to pick up the scalar waves

I dont think it really works like that. Scalar waves by definition are infolded so that they do not have the visible wave characteristics oscilloscopes pick up on.

quote:Also, it may not be all that important how fast scalar waves move, depending on application

I was thinking about trying to create waveguides for the scalar component, if you get my meaning. But if I remember right scalar waves are supposed to be capable of travelling faster than the speed of light, which indicates multiple possible speeds. Odd eh?

quote:Also, I don't agree that orgone is necessarily the same energy as psi energy, and certainly not the same as chi energy... The orgone researchers need to look into that a bit more thoroughly and not just place it in a broad category in order for it to be easily assimilated into dull peoples' minds.

I agree, but I wouldn't count out the possibility that they are the same, or variations on the same theme. One person, friend of a friend, very capable, said he thinks they are nothing more than variable frequency resonators, which is interesting and links nicely to georgo lakhovsky's MWO (multiple wave oscillator). But then does that attract orgone energy? Does it create scalar waves? Reich considered orgone to be a real energy form with a kind of substance of its own, and cloudbusters work which seems to support that hypothosis, so where this leaves us I dont know. Confused, perhaps!

peace
Rob

With all that spare time on your own, you have perfect conditions to start doing light meditations and energy work (read the training manual on the main site at www.astralpulse.com - NEW energy ways, and as for meditation, many different ways - google it!). Both these practices will help psychic abilities to unfold, and increase the chance of success.
However, it is generally thought that trying specifically to develop psychic abilities is unwise until you are ready (eg they spontaneously manifest)(sorry!). Still, telepathy is not exactly radical, everyone has and uses it all the time IMO on an unconscious level.
hope this helps
Rob

With respect to bracelets they should be broken (ie not full circle) so that you get resonance effects from them.

HHG's = cool []

Thankful:

quote:If RB says that moles are energy attachments and you could remove moles with magnets, it appears that magnets have an effect on negs. You could remove moles with magnets, as long as magnet is bigger than the mole and appropriate strength, and use it over time (couple weeks), and use correct pole (north).

Cheers for that, I'll bear it in mind. Yes, all very interesting.

quote:It would be cool if some time of device It would be cool if some time of device could be used for removing negs, especially like someone mentioned, for children and vulnerable people. I have a child with Cerebral Palsy and am always looking for ways to protect her as she is vulnerable.

Have you heard of Rife machines? While they are used primarily to fight disease, IMO these would be powerful neg guns, but unwise to leave on all the time and possibly overkill. I really really want to get into experimenting with them but they're unfortunately a bit expensive.
They likely work using scalar waves as mentioned by Cheyyne.

quote:Another tidbit is that homeopathic remedies which are electromagnetic signatures in water

You dont think they are more radionic? Psionic? Probably still wipeable with magnet though.

quote:Apparently these are great for psi applications, however at higher voltages they can damage electronics. I actually built a little unit for myself (I'm an electronics major in college) out of a timer chip and some radio shack parts, and the results have been quite... Enticing?

Do go on!! Scalar waves, interesting stuff they are. Another thing I plan on getting seriously into one day.

quote:Reports indicate that mobius coils can be employed to excite crystals and orgonite as well. I'll find the truth of that out for myself as soon as I get the unit back from a friend who's checking it out right now.

Yes I have some mobius call wrapped crystals, although the coil was self made and not exactly to spec! Powered by a zapper (succor punch - 15hz square wave). I haven't noticed anything extraordinary, though I do sometimes use it when I get ill (zapper) or when meditating (SP).
But it seems to me, if you really want to effectively create scalar waves with coils, you need to work out the correct diameters and etc to get the waves to cancel eachother out as they pass round the crystal (out of phase).
I wonder, what speed do scalar waves move at? Might mail bearden about that, seems an important point.

quote:Anyway, if you want to read more about it, you can at http://www.educate-yourself.org

A lot of the stuff on the site seems very far-fetched, even to me, but it has great information on keeping your human machine running in peak condition.

Well said, aye it is a dodgy site but interesting. Don Croft is not all he appears these days (I assume he once was), and the same can be said of much of the orgonite inner circle clique. Unfortunate but true...
You experimented with orgonite much? I've got some good results. Eg dreams become stronger and weirdy with the stuff around, I put loads under a friends bed to stop her neg related nightmares, and found plants bloom in its presence (with CB). Good stuff!

Rob

To cleanse I recommend leaving it outside for a couple of days, preferably in a fresh water stream or spring. Or bury it next to a plant. Quick cleansing way is to hold it under running wate for a minute of so visualising black energy leaving (the tip) and pure white (or vibrant colour depending on choice/intuition) energy flowing in (through the base). Then I sometimes like to keep the stone on me a lot of the time - a few of my trousers have crystals permenantly stuck in the zip pockets. Handle it often, meditate with it, etc. After a while it will be strongly associated with you. I have a whole box of items like that from various times in my life, strongly linked to me.

Why do you ask if you granny would lie? What reason would she have to do so??!!!? Cool story though. Ummm maybe the stone is *herkimer* diamond?? I LOVE those little things, though I have only ever had one, and that got included in one of my "creations" <cue lightning, thunder and mad cackle escaping from upper regions of big scary castle on isolated hilltop> (LOL)

Can I give you some advice? Often, the answers we can give you are little diffierent to those which you will find by searching online. The key is doing your own homework, thinking for yourself and experimentation....btw this is something I am still learning, so dont hit me pls []

Rob

I read about one experimenter who claimed to have "solved" the poltergeist phenomenon by packing a huge amount of random electrical equipment into a room and house, then noting said poltergeist activity. He therefore claimed the phenomenon was electrical in nature. But IMO when you leave rubbish around you will tend at attract flies.

Mick - you mentioned the right temporal lobe thing. There is a new article on the main site which goes into this, I'm reading it at the moment looks good:
"Simply because religious experiences are brain based does not automatically lessen or demean their spiritual significance. Indeed, the findings of neurological substrates to religious experiences can be argued to provide evidence for their objective reality"

Sounds to me like you have attracted the attention of some nature spirits - go back there, I say, (with a respectful attitude). If they dont want you to be there, trust me, you'll know about it [].
But if they are clearing the weather for you most likely they appreciate your being there - in my experience nature spirits do like spiritual folk. Appreciate your surroundings and meditate on the various elements next time you go back there.
Rob

You know, I've never really thought of this before, but once when I was in primary school me and a couple of friends decided to try a ouija bourd - talk about starting young eh? No idea how we came to do that, but we often ran other telepathy number guessing tests, and such like. Anyway with oija we were doing it with one big difference: we were in the playground, and using rocks. What I never noticed until just now is that with normal boards, you have a glass that slides over polshed wood - not very difficult to achieve. But on concrete, with rocks?!? Pretty hard to make the thing move around like it did, just by putting your fingers on the top. Impossible even. HHHhhhhhrrrum.......

For protection - magick ritual (inside protective circle) could be used. Or if you wanted to filter out all earthbound spirits perhaps the running water countermeasure would prove effective.

Rob

Hhhmm well its good to see someone who is familiar with cloudbusters - out of interest, do you have any ideas on how they work? I'm still looking for a decent working theory. I really want to get some of Reichs books on them, but alas those ones seems pretty rare these days (just ordered 3 others of his yerterday though, cant wait to get em!).
Rob

Hey Aidin, if you weren't thousands of miles away, I'd ask you out for a drink! []
Very nice []

My favourite is kazaa lite resurrection for smaller stuff (tunes) and e-mule for the big stuff (films, windows, etc). I cant answer your questions about the servers connections, though I suspect it makes very little difference since you are not downloading the files from said servers, only routing info through them (and I'm not even sure how much of this).

Do you understand what a "ping" is? Its when you send a packet of info from your computer, to another (eg a server), which the server then bounces back to you - ping is the time this take in milliseconds (ms). This is an indicator how fast your connections is - the lower, the better. I have not really encountered it in p2p programs, but it makes a "lot" of difference for online gaming when the ping is experiences as a delay in what you see happening and what is happening, or between sending a command and that command being undertaken (depending on game design or settings)

DC++ is very basic, its pure p2p without any of the handy stuff like downloading off multiple sources. It should be good for bigger files and I've know people to like it, but I've never found it very useful when compared to emule and KLR.

Rob