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Frank, your meathod of visualizing climbing a robe, or some thing (I used a latter) worked. I felt myself instantly move to a higher mode of thinking, but of course, I got excited and my metal voice started to chatter and I lost it. I think with more practice, and the more I get use to it the easier it will be for me to traverse. (I was surprised to see that I when I opened my eyes 45 minutes had passed since when I began.)



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I think its neat. *especially if it has survived that long.*



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Some times it is best to let things happen, instead of trying to force them to happen. (which you may be doing by trying to hard.)



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You know where I would go...the Vatican. Think of all the neat stuffs you could get into there. *evil grin* That is if things like that exists in the real time zone.

Trish:
Superself is a great term, and may be a new concept. I will have to test it out myself. *grins*





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I think the best advice I can give is to go with what you feel. Try it, and when you have your first experience and you get a bad feeling from it, and evil feeling then don't persue it. If you get a calm, good feeling from it, then continue. I can tell you that I have tried and failed at an OBE (Out of Body Experience) but the experiences I have had imbetween here and my goal (an OBE) have only made me want to continue further down the path.





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Thank you all, you have been very helpful. Especially you Frank. I will try what you mentioned tonight. *try* I will post results, if I have any. I hope I will.





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Brain contractions sound painful... Or atleast the way they are described.





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Thank you. I apprechiate your help. =)



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One time, when I was close to quieting my mind I heard a lound, almost, vibrating voice. It was saying "FUUUURRRRNNNEEEERRRRNEEEERRRRNNEEEERRRRR". I didn't really have any emotion to it. It did it a couple of times before my mind got so active I couldn't concentrate anymore and gave up.

Another time, I think I was talking to my spirit guide. I was trying so hard to contact her, but of course I couldn't quiet my mind. Then I heard her in my head, but it was more of a thought so at first I thought it was one of my owns then I realized that it was a question. I can't really remember what she asked, but I answered her. Then I asked her name, and I felt 'Keri" (exact spelling) so strongly that I got so excited to actually make contact with some one that I couldn't concentrate anymore.

I think I like the sounds, and voices.


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One thing you have to remember is that just because you have no memory of an OBE doesn't mean you fail.  One of the harder aspects of OBE is actually downloading the memory into your conscious mind when the experience is over. That is why a lot of people think that they failed at attempting an OBE, they just don't remeber it.

So this is my theory, maybe you were 'remembering' a past OBE that you have had.  




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Wow, it takes that long? No wonder I fail...  Will deffinitly have try it for that long.

Question:
Is there any possible way to enter a trance with your eyes open?



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Super Self? What is that? (Sorry been a while since I have read Astral Dynamics. Was going to dust it off and reread it tonight.)

Astral friends..How often do you encounter another person on the Astral Plane? Also I read about the beings that exist on different levels of the Astral Plane, and was wondering, is it possible to make friends with them? Or are we to different in nature to even begin to understand a being on a different level other than the Material World. I think it would be interesting.







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That is a new concept I have never thought of. Could you actually watch movies in the RTZ? Would the movies even appear on the screen? Also traveling, the only problem with that is that you do it alone. =P I guess I could always visit loved ones, and wonder if they would ever know that I am there or if they dream of me.

To many stars, not enough sky.