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so achieving AP will be easier if you tie somthing around your eyes?

so am I experiencing hypnotic imagegry to? or is it different because im awake sometimes?

ooo now i get it my bad. Well when i do get these things, i sometimes see them with my physical eyes. most of the time, i see them when im trying to AP or go to sleep through my closed eyes.

^ huh?

Hi all. This weird thing has been happening to me lately. Sometimes, if i go into a daze, I see like people who look ethral in appereance. I dont know if this is a memory or something, but sometimes I can see more than one person doing various things. Its not scray, its just weird. This happen to anyone else?

i havent told any of my parents about AP, but i think my mom found my journal. Im thinking about telling my parents, cus my older brother past away last year and if my parents can learn AP they can communicate with him. thats sort of why i got into AP again. It effected me a lot, his death date was 2 days before my brithday and since then I have no relgion at all anymore cus parying didnt really work and im sorta depressed   still.

i get swriling colors to there usually blue and shaped like balls and I just look at them and follow them its pretty cool.

Ive noticed through practicing, I get more rested, and am more aware of things. And I dont really get stress anymore. If i feel stressed I just close my eyes and its gone. Also I can rest without taking time from doing things, like if im tired, I can laydown and just sit there for 10 minutes get up and feel rested.

Thanks Selski. The only thing that Ive noticed, twice, once about a month ago. Is sometimes randomly I will hear a random wispering. I dont know what it is I really pay no mind to it. Another thing is the no sense of time. It has been with me since that night. Right now 11:45 pm it feels like it could be 3 or 4 am. Also earlier it was like 9 and it feels like it can only be 2pm. Also time will go by, but I will get nothing done at all. I want to draw, it will take like 15 minutes when it should only take 5 minutes at the most. Also i get no sense of time when I listen to music. It feels as time is 2x longer when Im listen to my iPod or computer with headphones in.

lol yeah i didnt move my bed, and im not gonna wait for the moon.

For me it takes like 5 minutes to enter a small trace (body tingles) then when the tingles get a little more intense and spread out through my body I clear my mind by simply letting my thought voice tell me "I am going to Project tonight" somtimes when Im doing that for some reason i see my self walking around in circles in a weird hallway over and over and I keep passing this girl I know, i dont know why but i do and she is wearing usually all black with like a red necklace, but anyway I clear my mind and enter a deeper trance that takes about 10-15 minutes. so overall for me I guess it will usually take 20 minutes or longer.

hi all. This just accured to me to ask this question. Ok last night was a weird night. I tryed to AP. I turned my TV off at about 10:20. I relaxed and while I was relaxing, voice popped into my head. They where just random voices of people I know saying random things or saying my name. Some voices where those form people who I talked to yesterday but some where from people I didnt even see. There was also a voice wispering in my head but i couldnt make out what it was saying. I moved on with my practice and then I fell asleep. In what seemed hours later, my mind woke up but my phsyical was sleeping it felt like. I thought I was dreaming so i didnt do anything (i often have dreams of just darkness). Then my brother comes up and turns the TV on really loud so I wake up. I look at the clock and it was only 10:35ish I was like wtf? so is this normal? if not, is it bad?

Hey all. Im just askin if you point youre head to the magnetic north, if it helps you to AP, and if it is a full moon out if that will help to.

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lol. I think the difference would be a deeper trace/vibes?

Yay! I think I had my first experience last night! It wasnt really a projection though; infact I didnt even get out. Here is what I wrote in my dream journal:

Sunday 11/27/05:
I was sitting in my room relaxing. After about 10 minutes, I started to feel the tingling sensation through my body and then I started to clear my mind. To do that I just kept thinking "Tonight Im Going To Project" over and over. After about 5 minutes my state gets deeper and then I feel a surge in my right arm. I felt a tingleing sensation but it was more intense and faster than what I usually get (vibes?) I got exited, but I still tryed to stay on track. Then, my right arm just slowly floats upward. That one got me. I got so exited that I lose concentration and concentrate on my arm. I float my arm and then I pull it down and then all sensations fade. Im getting closer...

^ so if we get the "screen" we almost projected? because ive never had an ap/obe but when i see the screen thing, i feel weird... like i feel like im completely isolated from my surounding, but i can still hear whats going on around me.

i used to get itchy a lot. but since ive been practicing a lot more, i dont get itchya s much. If i do get itchy, it will be during liek the first 1-3 minutes of trying and i either just think the itch away, or i move. if i just change my positition for a second and then go back the itch is gone.

oooo dude i experience this aqll the time but I nvere knew what it was until now. like while im trying to go to bed or when i wake up and go back to sleep it almost always happens. its like a dream that im watching, everything is third person. like im a ghost just observing the world. they did a skit off off this in the andy milonakis show i think. it shows him sleeping then it the camera goes up his nose and into his brain and shows his dream and hes sitting in a movie theater watching his dream lol.

same here. im more aware of my surroundings and stuff like that. the only thing is that I still have trouble focusing on stuff and zone out a lot I hope that gets "fixed" through AP practice.

not really. Lately though when I try to go to sleep most nights I find my self like mind awake body sleeping but its different. In the state im talking about, im not really like sleeping but it feels like it.

Hey all. Lately, i have been getting the weird tingly feelings that I get when I try to AP during the day. Today in art class I was bored, mad bored, so I just started to zone out and the tingly feelings began. I couldnt feel my feet/bottem of my legs/hands. Is this normal? Is this bad?

^^ so would a sleeping pill make an AP easier, or should you drink something with sugar/caffenine with it?

One night I remeber that I could see like clearly through my closed eyes, I opened them because I thought I was out of my physical, but I just opened my physical eyes, so i closed them and I could still see through them it was cool.

Most of the ones I have, are natural, but the last two ones I had, I was on Xanax (an anti-anxiety drug, legal), and they were the strongest OBE I've had.

i used to take zoloft, and a couple times i had some crazy weird things happen to me when i was sleeping. This was before i knew about obes though so i didnt know what they where.

Sometimes when Im trying to AP, i think I see dejavu i not sure. Like i picture all these things in my mind, I just think its a dream or something and usually ignore it. Happen to anyone else?