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#26
I've gotten to the point where I can basically go to RTZ every morning when I'm in a state of relaxation.. now I'm wondering:

How can go astral/explore more/get more lucidity when I'm in the RTZ?

and

How can I phase/project straight into the astral? Do some energy work and get a deeper focus 10?

Thanks in advance.
#27
This morning I woke up with a blue geometric/kaleidoscopic image on my eyelids pulsating to my heartbeat... I haven't seen anything as vivid on my eyelids yet, what focus was this exactly? Shortly after I left my body to do nothing interesting, but I thought image was cool.
#28
i suggest www.erowid.org as a good unbiased source about drugs, cereal.
#29
I saw myself in the mirror twice this morning while OBEing and they were different each time. The first time I was a blue-grey translucent copy of myself.. that startled me. The second time I looked basically normal.. but neither time did I gaze and study myself because that scares me.
#30
Oh sorry, that's what I meant. I'm aware I was in the RTZ heheh.
#31
Wow this has been a big day for me. Not even two weeks ago did I learn what astral projection was, now I've had 4 experiences... 3 of them were today, heh.

#1: I was supposed to go to school at 6:30 but I stayed up late doing a paper so I got woken up by my alarm then and then just went back to sleep. I was kinda waking up, but I could see little cartoon pyramids (I'm Egyptian) on my pillows through my eyelids, and well, I don't have cartoon pyramids on my pillows.. and seeing through my eyelids isn't something I do very often (read: ever). So, I tried to start sinking to start meditating or whatever... and much to my surprise I sank right under my bed! No vibrations no yucky exit, I sank under my bed, rolled out, and flew out my window. The feeling of going through cold glass was.. amazing to say the least.

The projection itself was kinda boring, I ended up following a car on the road and getting lost... I saw a lot of people I knew and flew through some of them so I went back to my body to remember it cause it felt like a long projection. ONE NOTABLE THING: I used to have a basketball hoop in my driveway, it's no longer there, but when i projected it was there BUT there was an old style clock on the right corner of it (not digital).. anyone know what this could symbolize?

#2: Shortly after waking from that one, I got up and walked around and went back to bed. I found myself in a similar state and sank down again.. I can't remember what happened in this one EXCEPT i remember opening my physical eyes at the same time as my astral and I got too confused and blacked out. I didn't feel sick or really feel the duality because it all overwhelmed me far too quickly. Oh yeah, no vibrations again)

#3: Same state, this time I tried the rope method... took about two seconds I floated right up.. can't remember this one either but.. NO vibrations AGAIN-- I think that's a good thing that I can project without vibrations.

Annyway.. in either the 2nd or 3rd ones I remember seeing the same basketball hoop/clock.. but I don't remember anything else... Oh and one last thing: on either the second or 3rd ones, as I was reentering my body.. I kept spinning around like my astral form didn't know which way I was facing haha.. didn't really bother me just thought it was funny.

Just thought I'd share my experiences... I didn't expect to do this so easily.
#32
Welcome to Astral Chat! / UNDER 18 AP goers
November 15, 2005, 17:02:51
I'm 17. Taking A.P. Psychology in high school.. and here I am.
#33
I'm no expert, but dreams are more symbolic than they are literal. Death usually symbolizes change, so maybe it just means there will be a new prime minister.
#34
I've done almost no energy work, and all these success stories are very intriguing-- but I'm worried that using this might overwhelm or damage me?
#35
I'm new here and I figure this is a good way to introduce myself. I'm 17, and I live in a suburb of Boston, attending a public high school. I have a strong intuition and somewhat frequently I get good/bad feelings situations that are almost always on par. Oh, and I'm Egyptian if that matters.

Last Thursday (nov 3rd) I started reading about OBE's and inducing them and all the astral plane etc. Yesterday morning I had my first OBE.. I THINK.

Let me make one thing clear-- I've never, ever had a lucid dream. On this particular night I was scared, I don't know why, maybe I'm still afraid of the dark. I dozed off feeling very lightheaded. Next thing I know I'm dreaming in a very strange state. My arms are shooting up in the air and flailing around to block my face. My perspective of this flailing starts spinning- literally spinning around and around. I could definitely feel this sensation as it confused me.

Next thing I know I'm next to my computer (which is across the room) and I don't feel fully conscious. But somehow I knew I was LDing or OBeing or something so I said "I am floating up" and I gained consciousness.

So I'm standing there with poor poor vision (as if I were squinting). I forgot to say "clarity now" I suppose. I glance around my room (not looking in the direction of my body). I decide to try to go through the ceiling-- I float up towards it but I can't get through it, I'm assuming because I didn't try hard enough. Then I floated over to the living room which is directly connected to mine, I looked around and then turned back. I decided to look at my hand as a test. It was very long, orange, and fingers were melting. This startled me and I thought "I want to go back to my body." Moments later I was back in my body and awake with no returning or rubber band sensation.

I hopped up with glee, POSITIVE I had an OBE. I have a terrible relationship with my parents, but I still woke them up to tell them what happened. I shared this with a few friends at school.

But today is tuesday, and that memory feels so distant and surreal now, as if it were merely a dream. At the time I was SURE I was concious, but my thoughts felt so heavy and my vision was hazy. Right now I'm confused if I OBE'ed or I had a lucid dream of me OBEing? Or maybe I'm just crazy.

If someone could go through the events and rationalize what state I was in at each point, that would be great. I've yet to conciously induce an OBE.. the last thing I remember as I went to sleep was trying NOT to have an OBE, strange huh?

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