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when is the spirit put into the body? or when does the spirit own the body?

The Qabalistic answer for this:  At the first drawn breath.  Ancient Qabala holds that the method of reincarnation is that souls come from the realms beyond to be reborn, but must find their own vessel, one is not appointed to them.  Souls basically wait around the womb for the birth, and are the child's first breath.

Occasionally there is a fight between souls wanting the same vessel, if you will, and fighting in close proximity to the child.  This can cause damage, and was the old explanation for birth defects of all types.

So, under this theory, is it possible for a child to be born without a soul to occupy it?  Definitely.  Will that child live?  Never.  You see, the divine spark of life imparted by a mother and father was only enough to power a single breath.  After that, the link to God provided by the soul was needed to sustain that spark and generate a fire.  Symbolics at its earliest.

Bloodsong

it is not only that. it depends on power of the parents-
and also the media- fe; barbie-type, the weakest and youngest form of souls? are created by media, not by parents! and from that form of "plastification" they do not have a soul-
I wouldn't forget about pre-adamic organic portals also-  

but of course you create! every reality is astral reality-
we are on the bottom of the abyss. abyss is time-  

I didn't know you are a rosicrucian, bloodsong-

There are some people who do not have a soul, when they die their spirit becomes absorbed
into the collective consciousness like raindrops in a lake.
Only people who become awakened have the ability to continue after death as a soul.

True and False. But this is misunderstood and read literally, like most Men read the Bible. Yet they believe they have total knowledge of things, when they don't even know what they are and why they are!. The rest is up to your intelligence to find the reasons.

One thing I learned from the "planet of the apes" is that religion IS for apes-  

yea, most of the people do not have a soul, they are called astral "organic portals"- 9,9bil
the largest problem of the world, bigger then the wars and the world hunger is how to get rid of them-  

jy, but ofcourse, good metods, ancient, but you soon became dependant on them-