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Does anyone get like this intense tickle feeling sometimes when in altered states. That's the best I can describe it.

I used to get it when exitting a nightmare when I was younger all the time, and it's not a pleasant feeling at all. I still get it sometimes, actually very rarely now, it only happens if I freak myself out during a WILD (which isn't often anymore), but it always ends up with me getting this agressive intense tickle feeling while I'm aborting this state and coming back to waking to reality - and it only happens while I'm very scared. I can abort a ld or projection no problem at all when I'm not scared, but when I am very scared, the transition from dream to waking reality always has me feeling this somewhere on my body, most commonly at my shoulders by the neck, or down at my hips sides.

Anyone know what exactly this is?

It doesn't affect me in any way during the day, but it's just unpleasant while it's happening, and the more I fight it, the worse it gets. If I actually settle down, I can get it to go away and stay in the altered state.

It happens to me 95% of the time when trying to take a mid-day nap, except I've actually been able to pin-point why that has been happening me.

I get pretty vivid HI before I fall asleep, but I cannot fall asleep in the middle of the day unless I have a really messed up sleep cycle. So, because I kind of sit in the HI state for much longer than when I go to sleep, my focus ends up completely shifting to that area as well. I'll be on the brink on unconciousness for maybe a minute or two, and I'll really start getting into the HI. I'll pretty much be non-lucid, and then I'll try to move an arm (unconciously) to take part of this HI as if it were a dream, and then my physical arm will shudder, causing my whole body to shudder, making it feel like I was "snapped back".

Though I also have come to believe you don't actually leave your body and travel the physical world... to me it's more like your conscience or focus or whatever being snapped back to physical reality from where ever it was.

Though I can't say I have "shift very intensly a few times". It's more like the initial shock that makes me snap out of it right away.

This is why I only attempt AP/WILDs in the morning, because Sleep-Paralysis takes care of this problem

[but you can keep yourself in the hypnogogic state]

You can actually fight it. If you know you are waking up, do not open your eyes or move. You'll feel yourself wake up - but you can keep yourself in the hypnogogic state. Atleast I can. What I do is when I feel myself wake up, I'll force my dream to continue through what I could best describe as "daydreaming while going back to sleep". You should soon fall back into the dream if you can keep your emotions down. I usually get 2-3 extra minutes out of my LD when doing this.

Will do, but yesterday morning I messed up a WILD and I was sort of bouncing around inside my own body before I feel into a lucid dream state. So I'll let you all know if it happens again. I just wish I remembered what that first convo was about.

Reserached what was causing my random Sleep Paralysis sometime in April this year. When I learned that people claim to have OBEs from this state - it had interested me. I wasn't sure if I've had them before from Sleep Paralysis, so I found this site and another, researched a bit, then learned I could induce SP myself. I did very easily actually - but it took me 5-6 attempts before I finally let myself out because I kept freaking out the first few times. Then when I actually was actually having the first experience - I knew that "feeling" of being OoB - a feeling I've definently felt before, and the fact that I was actually full concious, even hyper-aware, made the experience so amazing and unbelieveable at first almost.

I really would like to have another experience like that first one. I had a bunch after, but that first one...  the amazement, the feelings, the realiness... it was all so surreal while it was happening.

Probably right, better see things like Porky Pig instead something that'll scare the crap out of me.

And no I don't have kids - I'm only 19. I don't know why he was there, maybe just one of those random fragmented memories that came up .

I guess I'm advancing slowly up the ladder than without knowing it then. Starting out with probably an RTZ OBE, then a bunch of EPs, and now possibly APs (though I don't ever experience flying through tunnels or anything like that).

Today I induced Sleep Paralysis, and heard someone right next to me saying "Boo!" and that scared me, almost made me leave SP, I was borderline enter/exit, but I decided to go back deeply into that state again. This time there were no freaky noises. I wait a little bit, and I think I got ejected without consent as I felt myself float out through my feet and float up into the air, and slowly float down like the peice of paper and touch down by my door.

I lost it here. I STARTED TALKING TO PORKY PIG! WHY? I have no idea, and I guess I wasn't lucid enough to realize how messed up everything was. My room was way off, and see him sitting on my couch, so I'm just like "hey, what's up" and I get into this brief conversation with him, most of which I can't remember at this point anymore. I leave my room, and I see my brother open his door and walk out to me. I grab him by the arms, and tell "Hey, this an OBE, or a dream" and he gets this shocked looked on his face and looks at me all funky and starts slowly walking away from me, goes back into his room and shuts the door (he's still not awake, I'll ask him if he remembers anything, I hope one day I can achieve a shared dream). After that I just woke up.

My OBEs used to be so real, now they are no better than a dream (FAs are more realistic now to me).

I think it's because in my first few OBEs, I was hyper-aware. Now my awareness seems to be sub-par to that of waking reality. I'll need to fix this. Either that I must be losing conciousness while in Sleep-Paralysis and having dreams begin with me in Sleep-Paralysis.

Does anyone who has tinnitus sound like any of these? http://www.rnid.org.uk/VirtualContent/84933/tinnitus_simulation2.mp3

Mine is similar to the first one, but nowhere near as high pitched, and without the air-rushing sound effect in the background.

The third sound effect sounded like vibrations I had once before...

Anyway, just asking because I don't know if what I'm hearing is tinnitus or my chakra (the sound I hear sounds similar what a TV sounds like with no volume - but again, not as high pitched)

Today, I fell into very mild Sleep-Paralysis at around 7:00AM.

The vibrations began, and the noise I heard sounded alien-like (thanks to all crickets and other things making high pitched noises outside). They came in waves, so I decided to sit there, and wait, because last time I excited, I think I did it to quickly, and I had a blind OBE. So I'm waiting, enjoying the wierd things Sleep-Paralysis has to offer. I saw a small hole - I began seeing through my wall. Then through that hole, I saw my downstairs dining room, and I saw it from a few different angles (Remote Viewing? Though I can't say everything looked perfect). Then the hole became 3D, like a hole was poked through my wall, and either it floated up 2 feet, or floated down 2 feet, so I couldn't see through it anymore. I decided it was time. I started feeling that creepy up-and-down my spine energy feeling, so I rolled off. I had pretty crappy, almost colorless vision when I was falling off the bed, and then I hit the floor and started sliding toward my couch, and ended up going completely under it banging into a few things. As soon as I go towards my door, the last thing I can see if my bed/myself off toward the right, with me opening the door, and then my vision is gone. I yell out, and also think "I need my vision back, I neec clear vision", and after about 10-15 seconds of nothing, I give up and return. This is becoming a problem for me. Are there ways I can prevent this?

This morning, I came out of a LD, and just laid there. So, I was just watching colors behind my eyelids, when I noticed one particular green/purple blob that kept repeating its movement of appearing and disappearing. So I focused in on it, and it changed to what looked like a shiny blue disco ball, and the edges looked like it was illuminated (think of a solar eclipse). This then changed to what looked like a red/yellow kaleidoscope (what it looks like to look through one), and this went on for about 20 seconds. The whole time I was awake, and completely aware of myself. Then it just went away.

If I did open it, should I close it? How do I close it?

If not, what are the benfits of opening one (been interesting in trying lately), and what do you see when you open it?

Well, I finally projected from a LD (well not exactly finally, because I don't attempt it often, only tried twice before during a LD, note I've had 26 LDs since joining this site, and about 10 projections)

The LD was simmply amazing in terms of realism... but enough about the LD . I thought "I will be in the room, by my body", and nothing happened. Then I remember, how someone mentioned, to think about the "vibrations" and that should cause a projection. So I did that, and it worked! I was in the dream, and began to feel needles hitting me all over my upper body (I've never felt vibrations like this before), and as soon as they were over my entire body, the dream sort of warped in front of me, went dark for a few moments, and I felt myself kind of go out of control upward and found myself floating up my wall and out of my window. It only lasted a few seconds because I got to excited/freak out.

I did lose a lot of awareness transition though. I went from an incredibly realistic LD (where I had 20/20 vision, could feel the weather, and even the physics were close to real life), to floating around with really bad vision and I lost the other real feelings. I also missed out on the actual exit, because I think I was still ni the dream while I exited before everything warped and went dark.

Was an intersting experience.

I wonder why you want to do it in the first place..... if you want to Astral travel you don't need to conciously induce sleep paralysis.
Secondly I don't think having  your body paralysed is the most pleasant experience to have....

The only way I have been able to project is through Sleep Paralysis.

It's not that hard to induce given you try it at the right times. My biggest feat is just having the willpower to even try when I wake really tired ready to go back to sleep.

For peolpe who meditate? Does the meditation cause you to have paralysis, or do you just completely forget about your body enabling you to project? (something I cannot do)

I haven't been having this problem until recently however

My first few projections were so real. Slowly they've been becoming more and more fantasy like. THis one, seemed promosing in the beginning, to be a very realistic one, and it was... for about 20 seconds.

It wasn't real-time because the sun was setting when it should have been rising (sun was positioned in the west).

Atleast my dryspell is coming to and end and I've been able to do a few succesful WILDs recently, though I wouldn't classify them as full blown OBEs.

This morning, I decided to WILD, and was succesful, but once SP hit, I decided that I wouldn't "roll-out" and just waited to see where my mind would take me. Well, soon I was standing on the street infront of my house. My vision was crystal clear sharp, pobably the most clear vision I've ever had. I started running, the first 15-20 seconds felt very "OBE-like", like how my body felt, my movements, and I also saw the leaves and other objects having a type of illuminance which looked really nice as others have described what the Astral Plane looks like. But after about that 20 seconds, things started to become more dream-like, until it was fully like a dream.

I don't understand how one can go OBE and than have it turn into a dream... that would mean the Astral Plane and the dream scape are the same place!?

I dont understand how F15 is higher than F10/12. Everytime I try to meditate, I always get F15 (what seems like half an hour ends up being like 2 hours to me), but I never hit Sleep-Paralysis F10 unless I do a WBTB/WILD, in which I won't end up hitting F15 because by then I'll be OoB or lucid dreaming.

I have tried astral projecting on a plane, but had little luck. I have while in a car for a rather long period of time, but I just can't seem to slow down my thoughts while on a plane. It is probably just a matter of how comfortable you are with flying.

Yeah I'm not very comfortable flying.

But I will down a few shots before I go (I'm not the driver) to help me relax. Plus with 36 hours of being awake, it shouldn't really be a problem to me go lights out.

Is it ok?

I'm going on a 10 hour+ plane ride tomorrow... so I'm going to stay up (in total I'll be up for about 36 hours straight) so I can just sleep it out - I'd rather be awake for the 10 hours at my house than on a boring plane ride.

I was thinking though, if I try to AP on the plane, and succesfully did, since my physical body is changing location due to the plane flying, will I be able to get myself back?

I know... it's a stupid question... but I just want to be sure..

I guess I'm not a chakra person, but I never really thought about these things before. Only time I've ever felt them was in SP, when my entire body felt like a heart pounding very fast, and a few times when my throat felt a tingly and like it was being crushed... I don't like how chakras feel

Root:   under-active   (-13%)
Sacral:   under-active   (-13%)
Navel:   open   (13%)
Heart:   under-active   (0%)
Throat:   open   (19%)
Third Eye:   open   (38%)
Crown:   open   (13%)

Two days ago, I was in Sleep-Paralysis feeling very powerful vibrations. Had I gone out, that one would have been real for sure.

This morning, I don't know if I caught myself in Sleep-Paralysis or if I was dreaming. The vibrations were minimal. When I left my body, I was blind as usual, but when I gained sight, it wasn't even my physical body in bed, it was someone elses. I went downstairs, and my mom could see me, but it really wasn't here. This is the third time in a row I've had someone in real life created and able to interact with me. I went downstairs and decided to go outside, and it wasn't what it looks like in real life. It was a lot more open, houses were further apart, and everything seemed shiny. Shorlty after, I didn't get pulled back, I just woke up, like as if I was waking up out of a dream (though I think most my projections were like this).

I don't know if I'm just dreaming these now or if I'm actually leaving. All I can say is the quality of realism has dropped alot since my first few.

I feel the same way, it takes a toll on your body. I have decided to post pone projecting for a while. I don't think I'm ready for it. I figure if I was ready I wouldn't hear so many strange roaring sounds right before projecting. I'll give it a rest for now. After all there is a demanding but fulfilling physical life to attend to...and I'll keep saying
that once we leave the physical for good were probably going to miss it and regret APing. Anyways much love to all.

lavender

Regret doing something during when I have would have been sleeping anyway?

Like reality... I have yet to see the "shineyness" of the Astral.

Once I'm in SP I just "roll-out". Just tell yourself in SP that you are now attached to your Astral body and try to almost roll (don't physically roll) or start spinning in circles where you are laying and that should detach you.

I find that alot easier than floating out (which takes to much focus in my opinion)

If you get vibrations you can try and increase them to the point where you'll just end up popping out, but I don't prefer that because they get really intense.

I had induced paralysis this morning and would have projected had I not heard some freaky noises that made me back out, but yeah with the vision, I have the same thing.

I'm pretty sure you open your eyes for a split second, because I also have visions where I see my room exactly as it, on and off, and I actually had comparison this morning because during SP, I was trying to get Astral vision to make sure nothing freaky was standing in my room waiting to freak me out... So I saw my room as it was, all bright and sunny, and then all went black, and I slowly began to see into the Astral, the door and ceiling were slightly further away, it was angled slightly off, and there was a red/blue tint to everything but it was still very dark as I barely was seeing anything anyway.

When you are SP, the only left to do is to separate.

This morning after some vivid hpynogogic, I felt myself slowly falling into SP, and immediatly after I was feeling powerful vibes. I tried to control by focusing on them, but all it did was make the pulsate and make them even stronger.

I forced myself out of SP because I was hearing freaky noises (The noises the aliens make in the movie Signs), and allowed myself to fall back into it, forced myself out, total of 4 times it happened before my body fully woke up. Each time the vibes felt stronger and stronger. After finally being finished, I felt tingly all over.

Everytime I try to project in the middle of the day...

It starts out like this. I'll lay down, and I'll sowly drift off. The moment I reach 3D blackness, well atleast shortly after, some sort of image will form, weather it be seeing through my eyelids, or seeing a random image, like 2-3 seconds after I see it, I feel recharged, and to awake to go on any further.

My body feels the same, like pretty tired, but it's like I just became "super-awake" and have to get up because it's start affecting physically slowly, in the sense that I can't keep laying there.

So I think I'm accidently power-napping while trying?

How do you people who do these mid day go about it?