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[Originally posted by shorty:]

quote:Originally posted by shorty:
Hi everyone!!!!  I'm still having ttrouble meditating. What's supposed to happen? If someone wouldn't mind sharing their technique and what happens during a meditation session, I'd be really greatful!!!

Michael

Hi Michael,
I begin my sessions with an "intent" to meditate.I unplug my phone and make sure no one is expected at the door, and the house is quiet and empty except for myself and my pets.  I then seat myself fomfortably in an arm chair. Placing both feet, usualy bare, flat on the floor, and having my hands palms down on my lap. I let the arms of the chair support my elbows. I do not have a head rest on my chair. I sit up very straight, and close my eyes.
I breath in a relaxed mannor, drawing energy up through the bottom of my feet to the top of my head with the first three or four breaths. Then I simply relax and look at the darkness behind my closed eyelids. I stay in this state for a while, waiting patiently, and expectently for my body to go to sleep. If I have thoughts I simply "watch" them go by, but not getting caught up in them.
Once your body has "gone to sleep" your conciousness will be yours to direct. I have seem and learned much at this stage in meditation, and if a guide arrives I find an adventure in creative learning ahead. You will not know til you get there....
Donna

[Originally posted by auraseer:]

quote:Originally posted by auraseer:
Hi,
I read a post on a Ki forum somewhere and he claimed he could teleport. I tried this method out sitting cross legged on my bed. Instead of putting 1 finger of my hand on my third-eye, i put both fingers of both hands on it. I created a mini Ki ball on each finger and fused them together as instructed. I then put the ball in my third eye and visualized my whole body turning to blue energy, as instructed.

Then what happened next was wierd. Everything in my sight went blue and soon bright blue energy was totally blocking out my sight. I tried to teleport downstairs to my mum to friek her out http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_evil.gif" border=0> but nothing hapened. The blue vision had gone and could see perfectly clear. I found it hard to sit back up for some reason. Like a tonne of weight was resting on my chest. I eventually got up. When I did, my whole body shivered and tensed up without me doing anything.

Can anyone tell me what this was?

Cya,
auraseer.

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Hi there auraseer,
I have read most of your posts, and have known of other young people with tremendous powers similar to yours. We all have tremendous power inside us, though most cannot put it to use effectively. I applaud you.
Now for channeling tremendous energies it is necessary to "ground" properly. That is why the instruction were given to you as they were. In completeing a "open  circuit" as you seem to have done,  the power found it's ground within your third eye. When I deal with lots of energy I ground myself by  closing the circuit , keeping  my bare feet apart on the floor, and my hands apart (usually resting in my lap) this allows the power to flow through and do my body no harm. You simply "shocked" yourself as if you had stuck your finger in an electrical outlet, though we are working with a different energy source here. I hope this makes sense to you.
Donna

Hi there,
Yes, we had arranged a group out of body meeting at the Red Pyramid. I found myself standing on the side of the pyramid, all alone, about two thirds of the way up in a very strong wind. Other members encounted the wind keeping them from the meeting. Others dreamed of strong wind stroms.

This is only one of our group experiences, about a year and a half ago. What does Robert say about these winds? I haven't read his new book?
Donna

Hi all,
About a year ago I decided "enough!". My vision is terrible and glasses and contacts are a pain.  So I began using Robert's NEW method to heal my vision.
About two months ago I had my eyes checked and for the first time in 45 years my vision has improved! I told the optomitrist what I had been doing, I was so excited,  and proclaimed that I was going to" keep it up".
I downloaded the "free" book too, thanks. And I'll try those exercises too. By the way when I am out of body (except for reading) my vision is perfect, and more. I do have a hard time trying to bring written materal into focus still when out of body, and at times have found myself totally in the "dark" for a while.
Anyway thanks for the above help.
Donna

Hi Qui-Gon Jinn,
I had been instructed by the spiritual being who was aslo my teacher to fast at least two hours before attempting to leave my body. It was also explained that the raw vegetable and fruit diet was necessary to gain and keep my clarity during my out of body experiences. I questioned and doubted this often, now I have proved to mysef that this is true, and important.
Donna

Welcome Ginny,
I have done a little retrival work, it is so rewarding. Hope to hear more of your experiences.
Donna

[Originally posted by boomyboomy:]

quote:Originally posted by boomyboomy:
Hi!

This phasing stuff all sounds very interesting! But why isn't it in Astral Dynamics?

A question for Donna (or anyone else who knows the answer...!)

You said

quote:At the same time I "feel" my third eye and crown chakra become active, or opening. This stage usually begins after about 20 minutes when the natural chemical reactions to the darkness begin ( much like going to sleep).  

I have only just started the NEW system and it suggests not activating the main chakras for six months. But is it safe to feel the third eye (as you describe) without having to wait that long?

Did you spend any time on your secondary chakras before you started this technique?

Many thanks!

AJA

I'm a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I'm perfect!

Hi boomyboomy,
I had worked with energy raising for years ( since 1989)  before trying the phasing method.I had used this type of energy raising to heal a full-body paralysis, which the doctors had stated would be permanent. O'Boy were they surprised!!  Roberts' Method, I had discovered about a year before I began phasing, so I had surpassed the required minimums, I guess. Balancing the poles (energy centers) of the body is vitally important to success, I think.
Donna

[Originally posted by Leviiathan:]

quote:Originally posted by Leviiathan:
Donna: At point 4, I am still not ready to AP. I need to go further within, to the point where my body is completely asleep and I am experiencing the paralysis. At this stage, I am relaxed, and should be trying to enter the state of void, as described by you. I'm not sure what you mean by "intent taking you where you want to go." Elaborate on this a little bit more, because this is rather open-ended and tells me nothing at present. You may be on to something, so I need you to tell me more about what you are meaning by this. Give some explanation.

One of the lessons taught by the higher realm angels in etheral school I attended was: "Where ever your attention goes, your conciousness will follow."  So at the stage of beginning to lose physical body conciousness and becoming more concious of my thoughts, when the void presents itself my "intent" is to enter it. If your intent is to do anything else then that is what your conciousness will try to achieve. You are in the drivers seat. At this point where you are still half aware of the physical body, intent will and attention to "going" in any direction you choose is open to you. I personally enter the void, portal, swirling tunnel of blue, gold, white and violet light, which exits in a starscape for me. By this time I have lost all conciousness of my body, and all that is "me" is "there". This is often where I will meet my guide, or direct my "intent" to arriving at my pre-written or pre-spoken destination.


About the "starscape", I have no idea what you're talking about. I've been into the void state, but don't recall a starscape of any kind. And yes, the falling-inward sensation is somethign I would like to be able to repeat easily. I need to get from point 4 to point 6 somehow. There must be something my technique that is wrong, some minor thing I need to adjust so I can achieve it...

[Yes.]

quote:

I've had times where my mind's been assaulted by "visions". More or less, I can describe this as where scenarios will start playing through my head, almost as if I were watching a vivid memory. Perhaps this is hypnogogic imagery at hand... but at a light trance state?

Yes.


As you transcend into trance, this is the order of things you will experience:

4) At this point, if you're like me, attempts to induce a falling sensation will fail and you'll hit an equilibrium point where you just linger. Here, it's hard to induce further falling sensations either due to loss of direction / vertigo, or because it has somehow lost its effect / mind is relaxed. At this point, if this happens, you may attempt to seek other alternatives to take yourself further. 10 minutes later, after achieving nothing, I usually just give up.

At the point above, you have reached the plateau where your "intent" should take you where you will.

5) If you manage to get around #4, you'll begin to feel boxed in. It's a very unique feeling that is un-mistakable. When you feel it, you'll feel it. You start to feel more of an omni-present darkness around you (three dimensional void), and within it, a limited sense of being confined to a single radius. Robert Bruce describes this sensation as someone having taken a box and put it over your head (hence, you're boxed in).

This for me, is the beginning of the entrance into the "void" with swirling colors which seems to be a portal to a starscape. I do feel enclosed in it.

6) Continue further, and you'll start to feel a sense of free fall dawning upon you. It's also an unmistakable feeling that, to newcomers, will excite them and cause them to fook up things completely. I've gotten this far only once or twice, and haven't been able to get back here since.

This is for me, a definate feeling of rapid "movement"   usually again, for me, in a forward direction. This is followed by an arrival into a starscape, where my intention to arrive at my destination is acheived shortly after this stage..
Does this sound familiar?
Donna

[Originally posted by Leviiathan:]

quote:Originally posted by Leviiathan:
Alright... I made a topic earlier, so I'm more or less branching out into a topic that addresses a specific problem most of you should be able to relate to.

I find that the technique that works best for me is generally a combination of breathing in and out, followed by the falling effect. I lay down, I so I just feel my bed falling for a second in between breathes (feel the force that is).


Hi there Leviiathan,
My, my this sounds so busy. When a person lies down to go to sleep, it takes about 20 minutes for the natural chemicals the brain releases (melatonin and others)  to begin their work. Actually it is the darkness, behind closed eyes, that causes these chemicals to begin to alter our state of conciousness, as in meditation.


The problem is that I can't seem to transcend into Beta. I can come close at times, but most of the time, I cannot. It's frustrated, and it's hindering my ability to get to a sufficient level where I can AP properly.

The intent is important, to calm the mind and let it happen. Perhaps just to watch the darkness behind your eyes, as you "wait" for the calming effect of your own natural body chemicals  to kick in

Hoping to help,
Donna

[Originally posted by Sandy:]

quote:Originally posted by Sandy:
I got out this AM.  I've been listening to 1 of the 2 CD's from Donna every night when I go to bed. I don't know if I go OOB or if I just fall asleep but I'm awake the whole time the guy is talking & then right at 'that' moment, I either fall asleep or go OOB but I don't remember dreaming or anything the next day.

Well yeasterday I got the CD from themadness. I listened to it while I was making supper so I would know what to expect, then I listened to it in bed at night & it was the same thing in the AM as with Donna's.

So I'm thinking, I'll listen to it in the AM. DH's in the shower, I'm laying in bed waiting for him to get done, I listen to the CD from themadness & I don't remember hearing the whole thing of what the guy says but 45 minutes later when the bathroom door opens to wake me up, I'm laying there recalling this:  I was outside jumping higher & higher, I see some people who want me to stop & do something for them & I say no because this is really important to me (I normally stop everything I'm doing to help others out), I jump real high & feel myself falling backwards, I'm thinking to myself I hope I don't end up breaking my bones & ending up in a hospital, next thing I know I'm in a hospital, on a gurney in a hallway, 1 nurse is trying to put headphones on me & I'm wondering if it's a meditation CD she wants me to listen to, there's another nurse doing something with my lower body,  they both leave, I get off the gurney, stumble into the nearest room & lay on the bed, then I wake up from it all & I'm laying in my own bed.

SO, I think the clue here might be to set your alarm clock for 45 minutes before you normally get up, and listen to one of the CD's then.
Also, I felt really refreshed & relaxed like they say you should, It's such a wonderful feeling.
Thanks Donna & themadness &everybody else here. If it wasn't for this forum this might never have happened.

Hi Sandy,
Happy to hear your are getting some results from the CDs Sorry I have not sent the others yet, I am soooo busy working til midnight at the store. Forgive me? I haven't forgotten you, I am just running short on time. If I can I'll see what I can do this next week. OK?
Donna

Thanks Greg,
I'll e-mail Adrian, and send them to you too. Please forgive if it takes a few days, I am restocking my store and am a little crazy for time right now.

Tracy,
No I have never heard of a "Confushious Stone", I am wondering now;;;;;http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_question.gif" border=0>
Donna

[Originally posted by amcturbo:]

quote:Originally posted by amcturbo:

quote:Originally posted by Donna:
"destination", a school in the seventh heaven ... Over the next eight months attending this school on a daily basis, I was to learn a great deal.

What a great experience, Donna ... I am sooooooo jealous & wanting to "go to school" ... for the 1st time (perhaps) again!

Please tell us what you learned!



Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

HI Greg,
As you probably could guess there are pages and pages.  I did post them all in e-mail form to am e-group that I was a member of at that time, I still have them all in that form. If there was a place to post them all here, I would be happy to. Is there? One of the prerequisites for attending that school was that we students share what we learned. One of the other students was a healer, she had recently crossed over in  death, another was a scientist who worked with sound and light technology, he attended during his "sleep" time. He would often sleep during class, his head on his desk. I awakened him once in class-he thanked me. There were several others who came and went too.
Donna {/b]

Hi Lysear,
I have had a rather odd experience with "guides" in the past. On the way to a group obe meeting, I was "kidnapped" (ha, ha) by this beautiful little girl. She had waist length long curly blond hair and was wearing a white lacy dress. She instructed me to take her hand and not to let go. Being curious I did. She took me horizontally through what seemed to be  several portals, then straight "up" through the ethers. It was like going up very fast in a glass elevator, and seeing the floors as you ascend. I was able to discern  "layers" of populated areas, then a little void space between each one.
Later this being changed form for me, after arriving at our "destination", a school in the seventh heaven. She became a luminous orb of brilliant light. She had not wanted to frighten me, so had appeared as the little girl.
Over the next eight months attending this school on a daily basis, I was to learn a great deal. They taught many forms of spiritual "being" and how these could be enhanced. Much prophecy was also passed to we two or three students in this class. I have it all on floppys, and in written notes. There is just "so much" . It was explained that we are "watched" by the higher realms, and that when we are ready they will contact us for further learning. We were told that there would soon be many more students there.

And , yes, they do teach that The Prime Creator is in charge of all the universes. This Being is both male and female, and basically operates through pure love (my wording).
Donna

Hi Lysear,
I hope these experiences constitute "proof" I had gone out of body using the phasing method to visit my daughters' house she had just bought. She had not told me anything about it, all I knew was that it was in NE Louisiana.
I went, explored, and then called her with a description the next day. This included the fact that no one was home, how the furniture was arranged, and finding a tall concrete post in the front yard, and some broken windows in front. She confirmed all of this the next day.

One of the children in our neghborhood had gotten hit by a car. I was told the fathers' name and I had known them for years. They have three young boys, about ten months apart in ages, and I was not told which one it was,and could not find out. All I knew was that the child was in the emergency room. This time I simply sent my conciousness out, as in remote viewing, being both concious "here" and "in the emergency room" at the same time. The boy was lying on one of their beds, more afraid that hurt, though I did get the knowledge that his left hip was hurting. His mother and grandmother were in the ER exam room with him.Everyone was quiet, but I did gain the knowledge,somehow (?),  that his name was Stephen (this inrormation Just "came to me" as well as his state of condition physically, as I watched this scene. This turned out to be all true, as I asked my son to find out for me, and I talked to the father several days later. The child was fine later, as healing was sent.
Donna

[Originally posted by michael:]

quote:Originally posted by michael:
Donna and Jeff..if I was able to guarantee an OBE at will i would be willing to undergo randi's chalenge...I am only being curious..why( and i konw this topic is done to death already)..but why don't you prove this wonderful thing( which I can only expereince spontaneously..after sleep..)

 Hi michael,
"I" am not out to prove anything to "anyone". It is more important to possibly help others who who want to achieve what I know to be possible for themselves. That simply takes an attitude of "I want to know and experience for myself".  When you have personal experience, then no one can take that from you. When it comes to spiritual matters, that is all that matters, in my opinion.
The governments' use of remote viewing should have already convinced "Mr. Randi", he just wants to argue, and I have no time for that.
Donna
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Hi Social,
I can see where this might trip you up. When I begin my meditation for phasing my concentration is on my breathing. Then slowly my attention is drawn away from the physical body into the visual holographics before projection. If I think "back" to the point of keeping my breathing steady, then I am drawn back to the physical. Instead I think "forward" in anticipation of reaching my written or spoken intent, leaving all thought of the physical body behind. I honestly do not know if I breath when I am out of body, as I am too busy to notice that. Though please note that I have a normal body in the realms, though I like to play dress-up a little (wear my hair up, and a long white dress and crystal bracelets and headband).
Donna

HI all,
Perhaps in relaying some personal experinence in "spirit retreval" might help to understand the state one might find themselves in after they have crossed over in death.
On one of my explorations of Stonehenge, a spirit materialized from a swirling black mass into handsome young man. He had dark blue eyes and black hair. He was dressed in dress slacks and a white longsleeved pinstriped dress shirt, with the collar open and the sleeves rolled up a couple of turns. He also wore shiney black dress shoes. We communicated telepathicly, I did not at first know that he had just passed over. We had quite an adventure together visiting his mother, whom he was concerned about, she being still alive in a lovely stone cottage some miles distance away. We had flown there together for this visit, she did not even notice us when we entered her kitchen, she was busy baking.
I then took his hand again and brought him to my home here. We landed outside in my garden, after materializing over a nearby bridge here, and proceeding to my house. He left shortly after, and then returned, by that time I had returned to full lucidity here. When he arrived in my home, I was sitting at my comperter reading, I did not see him, only heard telepathically "I can travel now?!!" It was then that I realized that he was newly dead, and offered to have a higher realm spirit open a doorway that he could leave this plane and go through to a higher one where he would be cared for, and could progress spiritually.  He was very concerned about leaving his mother, but finally agreed. At this point I asked for my one of my guides to escort him up. Later that afternoon, in my garden, I received a simple report "Ethan is fine now."
There have been many other spirit retrevals this is only one situation a newly crossed over person may find themselves in, our present personal belief systems rule our whereabouts in the realms we arrive when we cross over in death. Some have no idea they are dead, and become Earthbound, causing many of the hauntings experienced.
Donna

Hi Gandalf,
This expression is usually a response to a "feeling of crawling coldness' on the back of the neck, causing one to shudder. It is often felt in the presence of Earthbound spirits, as in a haunting, or merely crossing the path of one such spirit.
Donna

Hi,
I have heard of crystal attunement but know very little. I am getting geodes for my shop and a lot of Australian crystal jewelry. I have worked some with white quartz crystals, but still know so little. How does that attunement work?
Donna

Hi ninthplanet,
I have noticed lately that the idea is that everyone leaves their body "only during sleep" seems to be discussed here on these forums a lot.
Personally, I can leave my body at any time I choose to give my attention to the process. If I choose to send my consciousness "out" to a destination of my choice, creating a body double there automatically at any time of day from a completely lucid state, I do that. I remain lucid there and here at the same time, and can and do write my experience "here" as it unfolds "there".
If I choose to use the phasing method any time of day, going from fully lucid into deep meditation, to out of body to the destination of my choice, then I do that. And yes in all cases there is total recall. I do not limit myself with all these "rules". I state my intent, give my full attention to it and my consciousness follows my direction.
If I believed that I had to "have vibrations first' then move into a duplicate body that I had created and all these limiting rules I hear here, gee, I would probably still be Earth Bound.Whenever I meditate and have no intended destination I go "no where".
I do lucid dream and travel out of body during my sleep, but this is not what I give my attention to, so have only occasional recall.
No offence to anyone, please, it is just that we all have such amazing abilities to simply "do" these things.With simply stated intent, either written or verbal, and giving our "full attention" to reaching a definite "goal". Whether that goal be the back yard or the rescue of spirits after any disaster, or whatever "focus level" you may choose.Keeping attention focused on my goal keeps me out of body, and in control. If my attention slips-so does my ability to stay out. It seems that so much attention is being given to these "rules of the process" that our personal human will and the tremendous power of the human mind is totally pushed aside.
Donna

Hi all,
It's been a couple of days now since I re-upped this energy. At present I am very clear-minded, though some problems getting to sleep due to increase in energy.
I have been experimenting with this energy during meditation. It is much like Robert talked about, but in no way painful or harmful for me. To move the energy up from the bottom of the spine, I simply concentrate on it and move it with my mind. It feels like the diameter is about 3-3 1/2  inches. It "pushes" upward with some force, actually feels like organs are moved aside and rubbed against. When it reaches the crown chakra it feels like electrical inpluses exiting there. My hands are also more conductive of this energy in the palms.
I actually feel a little sore along my spine from the experience, as after the meditation to activate it I experience tremendous vibrations (this took a few minutes) from the tip of my spine to the crown chakra, this went on for 30 minutes or more. I was sitting in a chair, on the computer of course when I did the activation online. The "cool breeze" is indeed in the palms of my hands, and I can feel it above the top of my head. During the day yesterday, when I took a break from work I would concentrate on raising this energy and sending it up my spine, though it feels like a "tight fit", and it's presence is definately felt as a solid "tube-like" substance. It is becoming easier to control. I have been in a "very clear" state of mind and have been able to accomplish more in the last two days in organizing my work.
I like that they do "not charge" to help you raise this power, and that there are free meditation groups all over the world. There is one in Fort Lauderdale, not too far from here.
This has been an easy gentle update to the power I've held inside myself, that has helped me improve my spiritual abilities for some years.
Donna

[Originally posted by Jacara:]

quote:Originally posted by Jacara:
Is it wise to have Kundalini "induced"?
Shouldn't it happen more-or-less naturally when you're "ready" for it?

Hi Jacara,
Perhaps our greatest personal belonging is free will. I can only speak from my personal experience. Call this power what you will, kundalini, the Holy Spirit or whatever you are most comfortable with.It is the greatest tool I own for my own spiritual advancement, I would rid myself of every physical possession to keep it.
But if a person is not spiritually minded and not wanting to practive the advanced spiritual  abilities that come with it, then all must be considered. Choose with your own free will.
Donna

HI,
I looked back through my files and I think this is the first experience using the phasing method to OBE. Please note that before this I had been able to send my conciousness out to any destination,as in remote viewing, for years before this. This is dated March 27th, 2000.

" I was meditating the other evening,using the third eye, I began to look inward. After a few moments a child appeared a little to my left, but very near to me.
A beautiful child, dark skin,large eyes, with his chin resting on his forearm.He seemed to be simply gazing expectantly at me.I stood there looking at him not knowing what to do, then finally I lifted him close to me and just held him.
Later that evening when the house was quiet, I decided to go back there to
see him. I entered a room where a man in a white robe was sitting at a
wooden table. He had an abacus and a paper tablet. He was working the abacus by lamplight,and writing in the tablet.He did not seem to take notice of me.
Finally I asked "To what are you adding, or  what are you subtracting from?"
He did not look away from his calculations but answered "I am balancing your
karma."
Wow!This is so exciting for me!"
Donna

[Originally posted by Arie:]

quote:Originally posted by Arie:

Okay.....lets say my body is asleep and my mind is awake......what are some techniques to "phase" into the astral?   Donna in another post mentions she see's colors swirling around behind her closed eyelids and then a tunnel begins to form which she go's into.  Donna if your reading this.....how do the colors form?  Whenever I'm in a deep trance...to me this never happens.  Is my body just not "asleep" enough?

What techniques do you all use to "phase" when your body is asleep?

Thanks

Hi there Arie,
I have posted the thread below where the question and answer session about the process I use when phasing was first posted. Perhaps you would like to read through the conversation again? You will find the answers to your above question there.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=2315

Donna