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Hey everyone,

You can ask the organizers of the PAPI program specific questions before signing up. I also welcome you to ask me questions about the program and I'll do my best to answer.

Be well,

Don

First 007 - energy work is a big part of the course so things that are in MAP and Astral Dynamics are part of the course. There is so much more. The greatest benefit is that the 3 Teachers are experts and to be able to have communication via the private forum and live chat was invaluable.

Next Stookie - I do not recall mentioning the price of the online workshop, but there is a fee; it is not free. I do feel there is great value received.

I did not have a conscious exit during the course but a new foundation has been laid and my trances are deeper than they have ever been for the 7 years I've been working at this.

Don

We project every time we sleep, but may not be aware of it consciously. Do you feel in danger in your dreams? Do you feel like you can be harmed in a dream or do you feel indestructible? Even after a nightmare I wake up intact.

Don

Hey Matt_B,

Fear of the unknown can be an issue. Best thing to do is pray for protection and ask your guides or guardian angels to be with you, watching out for your physical body and astral body. Another thing is that once you have a successful OBE you will know that there is nothing to fear.

Be well,

Don

Hey everyone,

I just finished taking the Online Course - Hall of Learning, Practical Astral Projection Intensive – PAPI . And it was AWESOME!

You can find out more about the program and sign up at:

http://astraldynamics.com/workshops/index.asp?BoardID=120

I have been at this OBE thing for about 7 years. After 2 years of diligent practice I had about 6 spontaneous projections, during sleep, over a period of 1 year. I then became complacent and stopped practicing. Another couple of years passed and I yearned for being out of body again enough to start practicing. I read lots of books and started the Mastering Astral Projection 90 day guide book. I began practicing again in earnest. I also bought the MAP CD Companion - 6 CD set (much more comprehensive than the CD that comes with the MAP book).

Then I signed up for PAPI. The beauty of the course is that I was able to ask the experts direct questions with detailed follow-up questions using the excellent private forum and chat programs available to members only. I was able to tweak my practice and discover exactly where I needed to focus my attention. The teachers, Robert Bruce and Bob & Marina Felix were always available. Their varied experience provided a three-prong attack to tackle the issues I was having.

There were about 2 dozen students and it was a joy to read some tangible posts of successful OBEs as a direct result of participation in PAPI. Also, there were 10 units that spanned over the 5 week program that included recommended reading, fantastic videos and suggested practice sessions. What was great about the videos was that I was able to revisit the material that I needed to hear more than once as the program played out.

If you are new to astral projection or have been at it for a while, like me, I would highly recommend this course. I have been participating in forums and own almost every book or CD out there on the subject and PAPI has been the best education by far.

If you have any direct questions about the course and want to ask someone who has taken it, just post on this thread and I'll do my best to answer you.

Finally, I am also signed up for their Graduate Course which allows me to stay in contact with the Teachers as I continue to progress. Follow-up after any type of workshop I've taken has always been lacking so it's terrific to have a follow-up program to participate in.

Be well,

Don

Hey slipknot0129,

I didn't think I was alone on this issue. I'm looking forward to some guidance from some experienced projectors...

Don

I am getting better at entering the trance state, where I no longer feel the parameters of the physical body. Soon after I get a slight falling sensation where I feel I fall about 3 inches into the bed. At that point, my mind becomes more awake/conscious, and I become aware of my physical body once again, and I feel the projection process has been truncated. My question is, what can I do to get past becoming so alert when the falling feeling comes on?

Any insight anyone has is greatly appreciated.

Don

Hey everyone,

Expert out-of-body teacher, Robert Bruce, shares 3 hours of knowledge during this conference call.

www.astralsource.com/teleseminar.html

Don

I agree with Stookie. Living in the present moment has to be experienced. It is explained elegantly by Eckhart Tolle in his book, A New Earth. He puts it into words that make sense. I could not begin to explain it. His ability to articulate complex concepts is masterful. I highly recommend you get the book.

Don

Hey everyone,

The Robert Bruce teleseminar in now full. It will be available as a free download on Friday, April 4th - http://www.astralsource.com/teleseminar.html

Don

Hey psychosoma,

The purpose is to have the opportunity to ask an expert questions.

The call will be an hour plus long.

The toll-free number will work in North America.

Don

Do you happen to know if it would would work out for someone who happens to be using a celphone?

Hey Blazewind,

I recommend using a landline telephone. As there will be over 10 people on the conversation, the less overall "noise" there is the better. I also don't recommend using speaker phones. The call will probably be over an hour long so even though you will be dialing a toll-free number, you would have to pay for cell air time, depending on what package you have with your carrier. If you do not have access to a landline, and only have a cell, and want to join in, we'll make it work. I may want to do a test with you to see there are no reception issues. I am using a new service for this conference call and will be testing it extensively over the next few days so I am confident with all the options. It is over regular phone lines. Last teleseminar I did was over Skype and there were issues.

Let me know if you want to be included.

Don

Amodia,

I plan on recording it and having a free MP3 download link by next weekend at:

http://www.astralsource.com/teleseminar.html

Still room for a couple more participants in the live conference call.

Don

Hey Blazewind,

You can always email me with your question and I will ask it on your behalf and you can still take part in the live conference call without fear of being misunderstood.

Don

It would be very cool to take part I think, but sadly most people would probably not want to try to understand me over the telephone.  It's a hassle for a lot of people.  My speaking voice is quite hard to understand a lot of the time.  it's worse on the phone.

Slipknot,

You don't have to say anything; you could just listen in. There may probably be too many questions to get answered anyway. Let me know if you are still interested.

Don

Hey everyone,

On Thursday, April 3rd, at 6:00pm PST, I will be hosting a teleseminar (conference call) with Robert Bruce, author of Astral Dynamics. There will be no fee and no long distance charges to participate; there is only room for 10 people to take part. If you are interested, contact me directly at admin@astralsourceforum.com

Don

Hey Venus,

That state of awareness you were talking about after reading, The Power of Now, is something I too felt after reading it a few years ago. And it was temporary for me too.

A New Earth, has created a much more dramatic and permanent shift in awareness; a fundamental transformation.

Get it, read it, awaken.

Don

Hey The Present Moment,

I am checking out your link to, I Am That. So far it is very detailed and rings true; also very deep, yet still palatable. I thank you for the link.

Don

Greetings,

I have lived in Vancouver, Canada, most of my life. That is where Eckhart Tolle has resided for the past 10 years or so. He wrote his book, The Power of Now, about 8 years ago. I was involved in a spiritual group at that time and his book, The Power of Now, was part of our discussions.

I was waiting for my vehicle to be serviced two days ago, just hanging out at the mall, when I was guided to the bookstore with the purpose of purchasing his new book, A New Earth. If you have not read it, and are interested in the spiritual path, I highly recommend it. I strongly believe there is direct connection to the astral body/out-of-body experience. This post will address it.

I dove right into the book and by the next afternoon had completed the 300 or so pages. It was transformational.

The idea of our ego being completely absorbed in the past and the future made total sense. The challenge to live in the present moment was clear. The past conglomeration of all that makes up who we think we are, ego, he makes reference to when talking about the pain-body. I could totally relate to that idea. The ego's obsession with the future is equally understandable. The ego is quite threatened by Being in the present moment; it loses it's opportunity to identify with anything when consciousness focuses on the here and the now, just as it is, with total acceptance and void of thought. The pain-body is filled with energy. When one is living in the moment, the energy of the pain-body transforms into Presence.

I have been working with the book, Mastering Astral Projection, by Robert Bruce and Brian Mercer, and have been quite in touch with the inner body awareness or the subtle body or energy body. I am now on Week 6 of the workbook. With this new found energy, from negating the pain-body story, immense energy has been transferred to the subtle body structure. Instead of feeling energy in just my hands or legs or heart center, I have become aware of the tangible sensation of energy within my entire body. But it goes further.

As described in Eckhart's book, when we look at the night sky and see the stars, there is also an immense amount of empty space. That vast space is the infinite un-manifest. It can be Felt as consciousness through awareness. By living in the moment, the ego dissolves because our Attention is focused on Now. What experiences the present moment, is the awareness of being aware. Our identification is with the awareness and awareness or consciousness is the totality of empty space. We become that space, that awareness, that consciousness, and not the ego; who we think we are. The I AM is who we truly are.

Taking this concept of empty space one step further, our bodies, and all matter, are actually made up primarily of empty space. The atom, the space within the atom and all the space around the atom is made up of space. Our bodies are 99.99% space. So matter is merely the manifest; behind all matter is infinite un-manifest, space. So if we can live in the moment and fully identify with the space within us, and in all things, and in the endless universe, and relate to that, and not the small ego and its story, we connect with the whole; that which we are in reality - the infinite eternal.

Time is also an illusion; past and future are only constructs the mind creates. Everything is actually happening in the present moment, the eternal now.

The infinite eternal is the ultimate answer when asked, "Who Am I?"

This is the nutshell of what I have grasped by reading the book. Of course Eckhart Tolle describes it in a clear and thorough fashion, with elegance and intelligence. If the words you have read in my post have triggered interest, I strongly suggest you get the book. Read it and come back here for discussion. Ultimately, we can use the concepts in the book to address the out-of-body state and the elements of consciousness.

Be well,

Don
www.AstralSource.com

The teleseminar is now available at:

http://www.astralsource.com/teleseminar.html

Enjoy,

Don

Hey everyone,

Dominick Attisani from the Lucidity Institute is scheduled for a conference call on Wednesday, February 6th at 6pm PST.

Dominick works with Dr. Stephen LaBerge and this call is going to be awesome. You will have the opportunity to ask him questions pertaining to lucid dreaming, time permitting.

If you would like to participate please send me an email with your Skype name or telephone number. There is no cost to take part in the call and you will not have to pay long distance charges to participate. Space is limited.

Don
admin@astralsourceforum.com

Okay Parapsycho, where in Skype did you find out about conference calling. I checked Skype.com from top to bottom and could not find anything about conference calls. Please send me a link; that is an awesome idea!

Don

I'm definitely interested in this.


One suggestion. I think we should use Skype for the teleconferencing instead of Instant Conference. It looks like you pay either way for Instant Conference. With Skype, calls made over the net are free, and you can do a conference call with up to 10 people. If it gets bigger than that, you can make a "Skypecast", which I think allows for unlimited users and also lets you moderate the discussion.


Looking forward to it!

The cut-off date for signing up for the 60 day Online Lucid Dreaming Course is Sunday, January 13th, 2008 – there are currently over 25 people signed up.

The next start date is tentatively set for April 1st, 2008.

Don
admin@astralsourceforum.com

Virtual Sticky Notes:

http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Information_Management/Notes_Management_Tools/Sticker_Lite__Sticky_Notes_Free_.html

The link above will take you to a freeware program you can download and install. Create a new sticky note and Lock it, so it is always covering your screen no matter what program you have open. I have 2 on my screen, one yellow, one green. I have typed, "I remember now" on one and "Am I dreaming?" on the other, without quotes. I have selected 24 font so it fills the box.

I make sure that everytime I have to drag/move a note, to see what is behind it - which is often - I take time to READ IT. Not only do I READ IT but I understand it. I put some thought energy into it. I imagine that I am in a dream and reading it. I imagine the dramatic REALIZATION of "getting it" and becoming lucid. A reality check is only good if you really play the part. If you just mouth the words without any feeling or emotion, it is useless.

Furthermore, change the font type and size once a week, and the background color.

The brain takes NEW information as requiring analysis. Any input that it knows, will be quickly overlooked, but NEW items in the environment require careful analysis. That's the theory.

Don

I am currently compiling all the subtle aspects of Second Life that apply to OBEs. In my opinion, any little bit helps. There are aspects of the game that are useful, but the main focus will be for lucid dream induction, as you have said. Mainly, it will be a fun, and free, way for people to communicate using headset/mic (not supplied) as a group with a common purpose. The more one focused their Intention on having OBEs and Ludid Dreams, the more saturated the subconscious mind becomes.

OBE Destiny - I am Borg
www.astralsource.com/SL.html