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I'd have to say little knowledge about spirit guides...  personally I think my guide if there ever was one is a dark MF (Mother Farker) saw a guy the first time I went out and he scared the hell out of me coz he had no face.... but he did a thing and that got me out.... I've always had his feeling over me.... very dark and harsh but I think he is good... He does to me what is needed to be done... Im living a good life and I dont know if I'd ever had my position in life it wasnt for it.... I am my fathers son, and a very kind person, but yet I have still to make the connections (I see it sometimes)... I believe in demons and all sorts of evil, but most of what I see is evil in this world.... My so called "guide" have never gotten me into trouble I cant handle.... I seem to be in good hands if there is one in my back. I DO believe in Karma.... I've experienced some incredible personal exsamples of it that It would be almost stupid to think otherwise....  but I dont know...   I hate that I just dont know...  wish I could know everything   maybe thats the purpose of life?

From my experiences, I can tell u one thing for sure and it has do to with DIET..... and having free time (vacation or weekends) try to wake up early at a day when you are free, and eat something light... salad or very light form of bread without any meat...  and go back to bed and if you have been doing energy work with your chakras and such as each one of us should for better result, u will have a much greater chance at staying awake at an AP/OBE atempt, coz that way your metabolism wont draw all that energy your body would otherwise use and would draw your brain into sleep, instead it would manage fine with a small amount of energy and plenty left for you to do OBE/AP/LD's.  Just a tip

I also think that an AP differs to an OBE.... OBE is very close vibrationaly to the real world. Then again an OBE itself might evolve to move further... somehow I think our good brains might have a say as to where we end up, and also the energy distribution of a body and diet again might affect the aboves....    Like string theories and Einstein.. both are on to something and are right, but we need to get this straight....  wich I doubt we'll do too soon... I think we might be dealing with dimentions here... without sounding too sarcastic, but to be honest I dont entirely know if I am   we are not all scientists now, are we?

Try do what I did. I had the same problem...  was on this bandwagon for a year or so (experienced some reasons to make me believe.... what a teaser!) until I started following Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways. I didnt even lucid dream at that time...  had exit relflexes, but got all tense under the whole thing and snapped back... bummer always....  Now! What you need to do. You need to have an OBE in the first place, that way your body/mind will do some changes that will allow that happening more naturally/often.

Try this (This is depending on you having done some new-energy ways basicly moving awareness energy trough your body, wich if you havent just mean exactly what I just said.... dont need much explanation: Move yourself trough your bodyparts up and down... until u get "aware" of all physical and energetic aspects of yourself. All it is, is awareness movement and stimulation according to whatever positional limb, place in your body. Stimulate your limbs! pretend ur making a soup and thinning it out by circulating an imaginary stick. Make ur chakras have somthing to work on.)

Once that is mastered..

Take some days off...
Wake up around 7-8am and do somthing... eat something very light, like a very small slize of bread with something salty and eat a carrot or other veggie...

point is, eat something when u are tired. (You need alot of energy wich will be gained from your chakras but wont be gained from your body, thats why you need to eat light but energic food recommended high vitamine and protein food. In light puportions as in vegitables and fruits and grain)

After doing this, go to sleep at around 10-11am. Did things right and there will be a dream and a que doing the overture. A guy/woman taking care of you, taking you from a dream and forcing (you can alwaus excape) you out.  you will find yourself in a "gray" tunnel with enormous speed and things will calm down for a while... just wait.... and suddenly you are experiencing the most HD view of a world know/unknown EVER...when this take place ABORT after some sec, and return.... wright it down!!  ...if you want to remeber and have it again. You are NEVER alone! There are "things" out there paying attention to you, helping you get this right when you are "ready"

Im sorry to put a non-OBE topic in here, but I thought many of you guys might have a say on this.

My entire life has been a search for a higher meaning. The meaning of life. Ok, let me get to the point.

What is "God"? Who is he?

It seems to me like the univers was created by design. And design most be created by, well, creativety wich means some kind of inteligence or counsciousness.

Simple rules that in the end rusults in complex constructions and situations.

Many of us on this forum, with our "new" knowledge and views on life, would like to think that there is no god. We are free. We are our own god.

I agree to some extent, but some most have started it all.

Maybe god is a collective intelligence of all the counsciousness in the universe, wich we are all part of.

Maybe:

God=Knowledge(counsciosness)*action(energy)
(that equation was not a formal, just an idea.)

Anyways that equation most have been used 13,7 billion years ago when the big bang was unleashed.

Why would anyone create a universe?
Obviously the universe and life was made inperfect. Dramatic cosmic and bad big and minor life situations happens all the time. Cataclysms also. I dont know a single person who havent met resistance in life. Lets face it; Life basicly sucks!
But resistance makes one stronger.
Maybe thats it.
God(wich equals all of us) made the universe just to make him/us stronger...

I wont go into too much details.

Please front on this coz it needs to be figured out... or maybe its not suposed to...
Who knows, do you?

Here's a new one...  NOT! I have been experiencing spontanous projections many times before and Im getting quite familiar with how these experienses go about. But now I want to go to the next level and try to have real conscious AP's.

I do fine until I reach the exit-reflex state. To get there I use "The Brain" method. When Im there I feel the usual vibrations, fast pounding heart, trobing eye chakra, and the likes. I feel its like my astral body is loosening, but it just stays there even though I try to imagine my self floating out. It wont budge. All hell is running loose in my body, still nothing happens! Any ideas? To draw an analogy, its like the "engine" is running, but I just cant get it in gear!

If you have an ingenious answer to this question please feel free to enlighten me.

...or just a sensational answer would be fine, too...[B)]

Two times in my life I've had something I would call an OBE-frenzy. This is when you sleep and your body goes into the exit-phase spontanously, but if you try to break it off, it will still continue to push you out. Its like its in OBE-mode. It is actually hard to keep yourself in the body (usually its the opposit). I had this the first time a few years ago and it realy scared the living crap out of me. The last time I had it, I had a little more know of what was going on, so I took advantage of it and I had several succesful OBE's. Paralysis was always present under the OBE's but I always managed to pull out of it to take notes and have my next OBE.
I was just wondering if anyone else have any experience with this?
It could be very usefull to know what causes this coz to me now this must be an OBE'ers dream http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
I WANT MORE!!

Last night I had what seemed to be a normal sleep-induced OBE. But when I woke up it raised a few questions. Here is what happend: I remeber I dreamt something about OBE's and that I was talking to someone about it, or something. Next thing I know is that I feel vibrations, heart poundig & drifting sensations. Then suddernly Im out. The vision was extremily clear. I remeber saing to myself "yeah, this is more real than reality". I was flying just under the celing of something that at first seem to be my bedroom, and started to spin around the roof-lamp. I did'nt stay out for long, cause I knew I had to get back in order to remeber, so I got back. I got got back by simply opening my REAL eyes (a little too simple?) and when I woke up I felt strong vibrations. This may have been my astral-double returning. I could feel my body was a little sluggish and shaky. Just like it would physicly after heavy exit sansations.

The point is when I think about it, it was NOT my bedroom. When I though about it right after returning, it did'nt realy look like it at all. And I did'nt even think about looking at my hands to see if they melt, wich would be the first thing I'll think about if I was realy awake. So was I realy awake? Was it all in my mind? It could'nt all have been just a joke, because of the physical sensations when I woke up for real.

Can you OBE in your sleep??? And where the hell was I???

Last night I was reading AD about Akashic Records and something realy striked me. About 2 weeks ago I had what I call a "morning-vision". It happens often during the state when you are barely awake and have left your dreams and barely opened your eyes. Sometimes when I close my eyes again I can see this vision apear like on a screen infront of me. It can be anything from a landscape to a house or anything. And one night I could se a big bookshelf. I thought to myself "A bookshelf??? thats unusual but ok". So I stared at this bookshelf for a few seconds. And then I thought "Hey! since Im awake and I see this vision-thing. Lets do a little experimenting". I was thinking that every book usually has a title, and here a have a bunch of books and they're not real. Lets see if they have titles. And they had titles, but I could'nt read what they were. I "zoomed" in on one of the center books wich was the biggest ones and they had a golden title on them. The wierd thing was when I tried to read the title the letters changed as I read.
Lets say the first letter was a "L" I would read "L...." and then alle the other letters would change to that letter. The tittle would be like "LLLLLLLL LLL" and If the first letter was "S" then "SSSSSSSS SSS" and so on... So I gave up reading the title. And then I must have started to drift off. The last thing I remeber was opening one of the books, and I could see moving images like animations and the text would only change as I tried to read it. I think I woke up a short while after because I noticed that I had started to drift off.
Could this have been the akashic records. I did'nt ask for this to happen. It just appeard before me.

This morning I was trying to project, and at some point I fell asleep like I had planned (all my OBE's are sleep-induced). Then after a moment I was aware and I startet to project. I was kinda hard to get out (low energy) and Im sure I didnt get very far. But then suddernly I felt this stinging all around my body like it was penetrating trough me all over. It got realy anoying and I could'nt see anything. So I aborted the whole projection. I could hear that It was raining heavily outside.
This may seem stupid or far-out, but could It be that raindrops were penetrating my astral body, or was it all in my head??? http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_shock.gif" border=0>
I thought the physical could not affect the astral, at least not to this extent.

I think I've had about 8 or 9 OBE's (all spontanous), and every time at the exit I get the sensation of falling into this dark "grayness". Sometimes I can sense colors like red and yellow. But what I always notice is this strange continous sound wich keeps on going and increasing in level until I'm out. Its realy hard to describe but sometimes it seems "metalic". Argh, I just wish I could sample it http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>
I wonder what causes it...
Is there anyone else that experince thishttp://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_question.gif" border=0>

I have always been facinated by this subject. Spirit Guides. I have never met one. frankly I find that symbolism is too easy. Everybody can interpret something to mean anything. If it is a cat an ant, or a crow... whatever. If a true guide is to guide you to somthing it might as well show itself, so that you "know"... One time I was attacked by ants and I ran home trough the forrest and when I finaly reached my home there was no ants on me. (Probably cos a shook them all off me). The message: DONT MESS WITH ANTS!! Not to ridicule your sugestion, or anything. I get what you're trying to say.
But guides should know that if they want to lead us to something or help us they would let us know in a way that we "knew" and not just "believed".

But when I think about it we dont "know" the meaning of life.
We are left just to "believe".
And symbolism is actually a high factor in the astral.

AHH, it drives me nuts!
Well there you have it...
"God" didnt intend to have it easy for us.
Every single f****** thing is a challenge.
Thats life (and astral life) for ya.[]

Damn I just want some more OBE's


(But I guess I have to work for that all by myself, anyways)
(Those "guides"... If I got guides, then they must have some hell of a vacation...[xx(]

I do believe some people have the ability to see spirits with out OBE or AP. These are clairvoyant or/and psykic people. Wich most of them are born with this ability.

We have a show in Norway called "Åndenes Makt" wich means "The power of the spirits". This program visits homes and places wich the owners think is hounted. Then they bring different profesional mediums to the home/place, who then tryes to comunicate with the spirit/spirits and sometimes exorcize them. They are not told what the owners have experienced in the houes until after the session.

What amazes me is that the information they get from the spirits when it comes to names, dates, how the place used to look, even personal details about the persons living there right now are often and mostly entierly correct, acording to old state registers and documents, wich are checked into afterwards.
After some weeks they revisit the famlies whos house was hounted to ask how it is now. And most of the time no ghostly activities has occured since the medium was there.

If this program is a hoax? I realy doubt it by the way it is made.
I guess one has to see it...

They might be arrogant about their ability or whatever, but that does'nt mean they are fakes. If you had seen ghost every day since you were born, I bet it would'nt shock you if you saw one today too.

Think how a blind person would feel if he suddenly gained sight and could see the real world?

I see the real world every day and it does'nt shock me.



(....well, somtimes..[])

I wont be calling anybody a liar here, and I read so much about so many special things on this forum. But levitation seems very sensational to me and to be honest its hard to belive.

I believe in OBE because I have experienced it myself and it seems feasible. But levitation is a physical fenomena. It CAN be proven. All you need is a camera or at least a picture. Although today pictures are known to have lied, even films. But atleast it would be something. Maybe a withness... eh witch can also lie.

So... well we would basicly have to take your word on it for now, but If you did it once maybe you can do it again someday and even show us a picture of it (or film). I would love to see it. Coz humans can do alot more than what most of us think. That I KNOW.[]

somethimes when I have projected. I can hear and feel almost like I have my head out the window of a car... not exactly but there is the feeling of acceleration (of course... Im bieng prjected out of my BODY!) and the sound of a wind (kind of muffeled) in my head. Wich is then folowed by a hi-pitched often metalic sound until Im finaly out.

I would say you were on to something there...

"Kuhl"

quote: don't know if you want to be looking forward to death. Maybe acceptance would be better. You need to be happy while your hear on Earth. Death shouldn't be an escape but another level in our developement.

Well to be honest, somtimes I have been looking forward to death. Thats only because of pain. But we all experience pain in our life's, external or internal or both. But i believe or "know" that there is a meaning behind it. Nothing happens without a reason. We are all stranded on this planet to experience just that. No humans that I know are strong super-inteligent or anything that seems god-like at all. I thing that God is something we are all part of, but us (the humans) are quite far away from whatever that is God.

But as we evolve we will get closer. In short we are at a lower level.
I think that there are beings in the universe that are far more sofisticated than us, thereby closer to God than we are.

I dont nesecerily mean technologicly, but also spirituly evolved.

Most humans dont even recognize the spirit in our selves.

We can only begin to understand what power lies within "knowing"

It seems to far fetched for us to think about stuff like that. We are too conserned about our life situations and the physical matters that surrounds us.... and with good reason, actualy.

I know that OBE's have given me a confirmation that there is more to the universe than what we call "reality" and that there is nothing to fear but fear itself, wich is what "evil" is based on.

Basicly we need to get spiritualy stronger and wiser

I can remeber some of my weaker OBE's were I ended up in my bedroom on the floor for a few seconds with no control. It is some kind of vertification, but at the same time It wasnt realy all that fun. One time I was having multiple OBE's and ended up with a lucid dream. It was so real that I thought I had woken up. I walked out of bed only to find out that my balance was completly gone. I was just falling around the floor strugeling to gain control but it was hopeless. I finaly made it to the bathroom. And when I looked in the mirror, my face was all messed up. My theeth was in all directions and I looked like I was made of rubber or somthing...

I realized that It had to be a dream. Its wierd coz it was so real.

I'we been to alot of places when in OBE. Some of them where in the city near me. And they were totaly corect compared that how these places realy look. I dont know If that was RTZ. it could have been.

Like my mother always said: "OBS is like a faulty teleport-wormhole-device; You never know where you gonna end up."


















(actually she never said that. She dont even know about OBS's)[B)]

Is he dead? Maybe, maybe not. Anyways, all the wrong things he has done through his life will be acounted for. He might have escaped the court of law, but not universal law. Where ever he is, dead or alive, I bet he wont have an easy time for a long long time forward.

Look, SP is a totaly natural state wich we all have during our night or day time sleep. It is to prevent movement during sleep when we are dreaming, so that we wont hurt our selves in the physical world. It is a bodily function wich is initiated every time while we are going into the dream or OBE-state.

The reason why people relate it OBE's is because of the awareness that you usually have during and after an OBE, and that the SP often dont necessarily stop after OBE since that the body could still be asleep. I have experineced it a few times and it can be quite unpleasant, if you're not used to it.

But its right that if you consentrate on small limbs like your toes and try to wiggle them, you sould be able to break it off. You just have to let your body know that you are awake. (Its wierd but its just one of our primitive bodlily functions.)[]

Yeah, you were probably lucid when you started to fly. The mind usually cant handle flying whitout being lucid so you were most likly semi-conscious and had like clairvoiant abilities at that moment. This happens all the time with me. I start to wake up in a dream early in the morning. And my "third eye" is still quite active and I can see behind my eyelids or start to remote view something. Could have been that. It seems to me like the third eye and "dream vision" use the same nerve channel as the normal eyes do.

Seems like OBE relatet experinces. You dont tell anything beyond these things. May be you got scared out. Hey, it happens to all if you dont expect it. after all you are about to leave your body. I dont get much scarier than that, realy. At the same time it dont get any better[]. Next time use the opportunity. There is nothing to be afraid of. NOTHING! Its safer to OBE than anything in the whole physical world. Thats how I feel now.

Seems to me like you were having the perfect state for spontanous projecttion. When your body desides that spontanouse projection is to occur there is little you can do about it, unless you get out of bed and do somthing else to distract. If I understand you guys right. Take advantage of it. Let it go! You wont regret it. This is how OBE's naturaly occur. This is how I got my first OBE's. I cant lie and say I wasnt scared to death, but atleast you know whats going on. I didnt. But now I know. And when ever It happens its like a BONUS. USE IT!!!![^]

I hear ya'll talking about those BW presets. I have to register to use those presets. I have to pay up! So you all payed for it or is there a loop hole. is it? huh? I dont care... show me![}:)]

Who knows. Its not imposible that some kind of cataclysmic event is on its way. There is a quite noticable clima-change and vulcanic activity is rising rappidly. Maybe you picked up on it. Or it could be just a lucid dream. Some of my lucid dreams have left me with energy surges and after-OBE or re-entry related sensations.

Mgkeeper: Well it reminds me of the times when I would go to bed and almost drift away into sleep, but sudernly being awakend by feeling like Im faling out of my bed, and I will jerk in reflex. But in reality I was liyng safely and perfectly still.

I have never tried to let myself fall. I think that would almost be imposible because of the reflex.

Makaveli: To me this sounds like a trance like falling sensation. If I understand you right.