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I agree I regularly use them to aid me during an obe i also downloaded one which has a hypnotist to guide you into trance then astral. Ill post the link below but please dont think this is some sort of spam if theres a way ill send instead to anyone who wants it you only have to enter an email and password at the bottom then you can download also you can get brainwave gen full for free if you search it at astalavista.ms astral inductions is at http://www.salviadragon.com/

Ok I just had my first lucid dream and it was plannig it thought i was having great trouble sleeping. I woke in the morning early and stayed in bed for an 45minz reading stuff about lucid before i put a audio saying things to get youy to realize your lucid + doing affirmations. After a long time i realized i wasnt going to get asleep with it on so i just put saltcube on and tried to fall asleep.

I didnt get asleep on the first few intervals on nap 6 thought that is useual but i did get to sleep. I remember then thinking about being somewhere and imagining it and imagining just being there im finding it difficult to remeber but at this i point i think i was consious because i think i was activly thinking about the place neway.

I had a thought of London at night looking at skyscrapers then all of a sudden the vision just appeared extremley clear but not the sort of OBE clear and i was in the air looking at the image i had breifly pictured. It was amazing how the thought just materialized in that split second extremely clear thought at first there seemt to be a haze u know when looking into the blackness its kinda rectangle well when looking at the skyscraper it was sort cirlce with the haze circling my vision.

Once the image of the skyscrapers materialized i started flying forwards near the buildings. I then started turning and it was incredible the experience was totally unlike an OBE and im even more convinced OBE's and Lucid dreams might be related but not the same. Neway staying calm i flyed around for a short time looking at all the beautiful lights.

I then looked at a helicopter pad on top of a skyscraper then all of a sudden i think i saw half of a mans face like if you were at a cinema it just appeared half of his head at the side but im not quite shore i just imagined it. After that i think started to get over exited or paniced then i remebr having my physical eyes sorta open looking at the ceiling while still flying so i thought i may aswell wake up.

It was a brief experience but it was more than i expected. As soon as i woke up the timer bleeped it must if been atleast at the middle interval say it may not have been caused by the timer and i noticed no noise during the lucid. p.s. saltcube.com aswell as here has helped me achive practicaly all my expeirenices so begginers like me i highly recomend you tru it out.

i have trouble relaxing because of the numbness. do you have any links to some usefull relaxation methods?

I find music like hemi-sync very relaxing. If you want i can send you and any others who wish to have the music (free of charge) ovcourse using msn or wotever.

I had my fourth projection today, so here it is.....>

I tried the technique on this the site astral society (I altered some points and people feel free to try this also im sure this can work using different times its the interval that counts) where i went to sleep at about 2am and I woke up at 6:12am using the alarm on my phone. I stayed awake laying in bed reading an ebook about astral. I also took brakes closing my eyes but NOT FALLING ASLEEP. I did this until 7am then on my side the way i woke up (this maybe a good way to saty comfortable by staying in the position) I closed my eyes and started saying affirmations like " I Will wake in a dream and be aware im not dreaming" (I was intending to have a lucid dream) Neway i soon fell asleep and had a very vivid dream about some asian girl where i usualy go each friday.
Neway after that cool dream i then woke looking at the room i was in but it was a bit lighter. I felt the usual sensations but toned down all of a suden i had some vision sorta like a dream where i was looking on youtube and saw something about ghosts ( this may have been a lucid dream) I thought to myself o crap im about to project and i thinking of ghosts the thing is i could see my room while the vision was happening in my head!!. I then felt paralysis and it was very much the sleep paralysis again and still thinking about ghosts i heard a weird laugh then a i had some pulsating sensation like a whommm whommm. lol i thought i was being haunted or somethiong as i hav had apparitons visible in front of my during paralysis. I realised i could hear the well know rushing noise so i tuned into it until i left my body backwards not visible. I hit the wall and reset similar to my 1st projection back to where i started so i tried a great deal to move neway i could but i was only moving little then ide move my physical. I then woke up.
Thanks for reading and take note that ive found that using existing techniques and customizing them to suit you works best for me anyway. Ive also found out in all the 4 projections ive had they have all been on a friday morning dunno why. Im looking 2nite to see if i see that asian girl tonight because im goin da same place today. This is a big lotta  details as i find the more detail the better.

Im aware of this technique do not buy it. The technique practicly has a website devoted to it. It is saltcube.com and i used the technique for my first projection. It is affective but the saltcube site gives you all the details including its own forum. I strongly advise you to visit the site before thinking of buying. Someone bought the same on item and posted it on a site its a well know technique where you wake from 3 to 1 hour early then simply fall back to sleep and meditate then. Saltcube.com also provides a timer which can wake you up in lucid or wake up for real ready to project which happend to me.

That sounds very cool! Were these beings working on the machines? What did you feel they were doing?

Im not quite shore they were doing. They were not moving and it looked more like a black wall with different coloured lights which were changing in colours. Sorta like that star trek if your familiar with it. I wonder what they were doing and what was happening to me once they looked at me. What ever happend it was a cool experience. Next time if project im goin to try contact my spirit guide if one exists if have many questions to ask.

This is the theard OBE ive ever had and it was incredible not sure if it happend straight after goin to bed or during night. The whole experience was is very weird and thats only the part i can remember, I didnt wake after the experience so i couldn record it till the morning. Ive posted this in saltcube and astral soceity so you may have already seen it but here it is:

I remeber a click during the nite and to my surpirise i had A spontaneous projection. Its was dark in the room and i kept trying to move but i dont know what else happend until all of a sudden i was in a large very spiritual and technological looking room where 2 bright white beings in with sort of human outlines where standing there with beams of light surrounding them looking in front of them somewhere.

I was in the corner high up at the ceiling like the position a cctv camera would go looking over them from a slight distance.

I didnt feel like an OBE but it felt more like an OBE than a dream. I know in my mind it wasnt a dream. Anyway I knew though the 2 beings were totaly still that the knew i was behind them watching them. The 2 simultaneously turnt their heads as i noticed the outline round the head face me. At that moment i got the best feeling ive ever felt in my life.

Words seriously cant describe it. You know when you get that tingling feeling it was the times about 1000!! It was in know way scary the total opposite it felt like i knew who they were and i still have the feeling they were spirit guides of some sort though not mine.

When I got that incredible sensation i felt like i was shruged up in warmth, peice love every positive feeling deeper than any meditation ive had. It was totaly white and i felt i was rotating to the right for about 10secs. All of a sudden i had a false awakening facing the other side i was rotating. I cannot rememeber what happend next.

I dont understand how i can acheive these sort of expereince on my 3rd ever OBE so i cant wait to see what happens next. When i woke i was in a very weird state everything felt perfect but i feel im back to normal now. I wish i remember more and i could put it into words.

I thought it would be a good idea for people to post the oddest and strangest experience in any of the planes (obviously excluding physical).Im sure all you advanced projectors will have stories to talk about. I know alot of people will have no words to describe there experience so i just ask to share what is possible.

Ive only had two OBE's but I supose i should start with my weirdest experience so here it is:

The first time I tried a technique wake up in the morning and go back to sleep. Using the saltcube dream timer I just guessed and put the sleep nap at the preset 6 because I have great trouble sleeping.

It woke me up and I was sleeping on my side totally paralyzed. I was pretty scared because the roaring noise was incredibly loud and the sensations felt like getting sleep paralysis. I thought to myself its time to OOBE so I pushed my self out. I felt like bouncing in and out my body then I blinked and all of a sudden, I was laying next to my body on the bed and I think I was even under the covers.

I had definitely projected and when I moved a little every time I blinked I would reset in the same position on the bed what I thought was weird coz didn't think you can blink in astral. Any way after what seemed to be along time all of a sudden 3 other people were on my bed which is impossible because there was my astral body, physical body, some random person on the bunk bed and the other 2 laying in the air of the bed. They knew I was there but they were laughing and joking about something I didn't remember. I tried to imagine any random hot woman in front of me and nothing happened. I was still going back to original OOBE position when I blinked so I held my eyes open letting one blink at a time so I could see and it wouldn't reset and it worked. I then poked the man and I said "Who is my spiritual guide?" The other 2 people vanished and the man floated down from the air and stood next my TV.

He then started presenting my guides description on the TV. It happened quite fast and I only remember dark hair and 5 foot something.

It felt like a long time especially for the 1st time if I was to compare it to physical time which is incredibly hard it felt like 20 mins. Once the man showed me the spirit guides details I thought I've been projecting to long I better get back to physical and record my results. I hugged my physical body and went back and recorded what happened.

Ive used a saltcube timer to wake my up during morning and ive projected twice. Im still having trouble reaching a projection through meditating. I easily get fully paralysed after about 20minz and i get slight vibrations along with the feeling of moving/floating. I can control the movement any way i like but what ever i do i seem to stay there. e.g i make myself float up and i can go on steadily upwards and nothing happens. Its the same with roll technique etc.. I get the same sendsations as the last to OBE's when i was paralysed but not the rushing noise. I know this is a pretty common question but it seems im in the perfect state to project apart from the rushing noise.
- Also i can stay with these sensations as long as i like ive timed myself for 2hours meditating i never seem to get tired i do have intense insomnia.

I might give water fasting a go. When you's say water fasting do you mean no eating or drinking apart from water or just allowed to eat but drinking only water?? Ive natuarly began to drink as much water as fizzy recently for no apparent reason so i guess its a good time to do a fast properly.

Hi im not a total beginer to the Astral world as recently ive had my first 2 Projections and i thought as ive just discovered this site i should post them and here they are my 1st one was 2 good. These are from the journal entries i put into saltcube:

NUMBER 1:
The first time I tried a technique wake up in the morning and go back to sleep. Using the saltcube dream timer I just guessed and put the sleep nap at the preset 6 because I have great trouble sleeping.

It woke me up and I was sleeping on my side totally paralyzed. I was pretty scared because the roaring noise was incredibly loud and the sensations felt like getting sleep paralysis. I thought to myself its time to OOBE so I pushed my self out. I felt like bouncing in and out my body then I blinked and all of a sudden, I was laying next to my body on the bed and I think I was even under the covers.

I had definitely projected and when I moved a little every time I blinked I would reset in the same position on the bed what I thought was weird coz didn't think you can blink in astral. Any way after what seemed to be along time all of a sudden 3 other people were on my bed which is impossible because there was my astral body, physical body, some random person on the bunk bed and the other 2 laying in the air of the bed.

They knew I was there but they were laughing and joking about something I didn't remember.

I tried to imagine any random hot woman in front of me and nothing happened. I was still going back to original OOBE position when I blinked so I held my eyes open letting one blink at a time so I could see and it wouldn't reset and it worked. I then poked the man and I said "Who is my spiritual guide?" The other 2 people vanished and the man floated down from the air and stood next my TV.

He then started presenting my guides description on the TV. It happened quite fast and I only remember dark hair and 5 foot something.

It felt like a long time especially for the 1st time if I was to compare it to physical time which is incredibly hard it felt like 20 mins. Once the man showed me the spirit guides details I thought I've been projecting to long I better get back to physical and record my results. I hugged my physical body and went back and recorded what happened.

NUMBER 2:
I had the timer to go off about every hour in the night. Once it woke me up i cant remeber what position i was in. I heard the rushing noise again along with the feeling of floating over my body. I was facing the ceiling then i slowly began to move upwared still horizontal to the end of the bed where my pilliow was. I could not control my body but i was in control where i looked.

I sleep on a bunkbed and once my body wasnt over the bed my whole body just fell down the side. I then woke up. I should have recorded what happend because i probably forgot alot but it was early in morning and i was to tired. I also had an extrememly vivid dream i should have recorded that aswell which i foolishly didnt i cant even remeber it now.