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lol... i hope it doesn't take 15 years... but if it does, so be it. thanks again for the replies.

Kodemaster... i usually do a combination of a ladder technique and a "falling backward through the clouds" technique. They bring success occasionally, but i guess i just need to learn to focus on the techniques to the COMPLETE exclusion of my physical senses???

Does it seem plausible to anyone else that OBE is primarily about mental focus (and where you direct it)? It seems that all techniques that induce trance (or sleep) focus one's attention AWAY from the body... and techniques for a conscious exit involve externalizing (with respect to the body) you sense of "self". I'm just wondering if my lack of focus (mind-wandering) is the main factor that is limiting me.

Tom,
 I've tried the "marbles in the hand" technique to maintain the hypnogogic state, but falling asleep seems to be a very quick process. It seems to be associated primarily with losing focus... letting the mind wander. I wonder if the physical process of falling asleep occurs when a person's focus is turned away from the physical body for a sufficient length of time. This may explain why i experience vibrations after a brief period of daydreaming/dreaming (is this what is meant by hypnogogic imagery by the way???) There also seems to be a sort of mental relaxation that preceeds sleep. I guess i just need to find the right combination of these factors in order to enter a stable trance state. (thanks for the reply[])