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I had the scariest and most painful experiences in my dreams last night, and I would NOT sleep for hours on end after I woke.

To put it simply - I was murdered. More than once even. I assumed the roles of characters in a scary movie (or scary movie based concept/world) where somebody had made a "Blood Oath," making a bunch of crazed killers hunt us like animals. Every time they put us to the test. A sick, disgusting test, where I would be scared virtually s**tless.

But then, to make it even worse, there were times when I would all of a sudden be in the body of somebody who had FAILED the tests, although I was safe. I was there, in their bodies, being MURDERED.

Eventually, after about 3 nights of horrific pain and resurrection back into what felt to be MY true body, I awoke (in the dream world) to the sound of motors. I asked my friends what was going on, and they said that this was the part when they came along as lawnmowers, but in actual fact planned to kill us all with chainsaws. We snuck out of the garden and went to the corner store, where, for some reason, the owner was a gunsmith. When my gun was finally forged, I waited there for the b**tards to come past so I could head shot them all in their green "lawnmowing" truck.

Eventually after playing Camping Carl I awoke, scared to death about the whole ordeal. Being murdered hurts. It hurts like hell. Even in the dream I knew that I was experiencing only a fraction of the pain someone in the real world would experience.

All I can say is that that dream was horrific, painful, scary, confusing, hard to decifer, and has opened my eyes to the fact that murderers are evil b**tards that should all be put away for eternity.

~FT

Hi everybody. I've been around on this forum for about a year, read Astral Dynamics once (going to be re-reading once I get it back from my friend), and I'M STILL NOT OUT OF BODY!!

I have a few questions to start.

First and foremost, does lack of practise have a reverse effect on the practice you've done...like getting "rusty" at playing an instrument, game, or sport?? If so, that makes me pretty much back at ground zero...

Secondly, same question but in relation to NEW. Do you have to redo NEW if you stop for several months??

Finally, I'm lazy. Procrastination is a problem, as well as schoolwork. I am now on holiday for 3 weeks, and I would really like to get out of body or at least in a lucid dream environment by the end of the holidays. What the crap do I have to do?? I feel as though every time I practice a projection attempt or WILD, and (less now) when I go into the trance state that I'm doing EVERYTHING WRONG!!

Ugh! I'm just not getting any of this right. I feel as though I'll never get out of body, and the worst part of that is that I know that if I believe I'll never get out...you know what? I'M DEAD RIGHT!!

This suuuuucks!!

Please...help me []

The Da Vinci Code...who's read it? Who hasn't?

I'm picking it up as soon as I can, and from what I hear, I know hate the Catholic Church. Anybody who really wants to be Christian, read the Gnostic Christian Gospels. The 4 Gospels in the Bible were only 4 of several HUNDRED Gnostic gospels. Gee, I wonder why they'd only put 4 in? It wasn't because they were trying to be...MANIPULATIVE???

That probably makes no sense.

Just pick up the damned book. I know I am.

Last night I was in a really cool/wierd dream where I felt really tired. So then (in the dream) I layed down on a red couch-like doohicky and then fell to sleep.

What followed was so real that it might as well have happened in reality itself.

I felt the usual falling feeling as I deepened into a sleep-like trance, and then suddenly I felt as though a rope was tied to my waste and pulling my projectable double out of my body. Then, with eyes closed, I see a blinding white light, with some remnant of the room around me, from behind closed eyes.

I then remind myself that nothing can harm me when I get to the usual stage of super-fear. After that the energy rushes were intense, and I felt a massive spinning feeling all around, even the light was spinning!

After that a little subconscious fear took over and I pulled myself back in the way that I would during a bad dream...and ended up waking up in the "real world." Safe in bed, at home.

Now that I've experienced that, I'd like to know if it's possible to experience an out of body projection whilst in the dream state.

On top of that, I believe that that experience in the dream could also possibly be showing me what it will be like when I finally get around to astrally travelling.

Peace
~FT

Just last night (though not the first time) I slipped into a lucid dream (possibly by will, not sure). I was talking to an old person and he/she was talking about these two girls who looked at a certain pattern and then saw something...I asked what and he said "lucid dreams."

Now, every time I talk to people about lucid dreaming, I just do a reality check and tell them that I am checking reality as a demonstration. This being my habitual behaviour, I immediately found I was lucid.

This not being the first time this has happened to me, I immediately felt an overwhelming sense of fear and a compelling NEED to get back to my body. I felt that something could be tampering with my body or attacking it (usually I feel as though some kind of alien [grey/zeta] is going at me and abducting me or some crazy thing like that). So then, as per usual, I felt half paralyzed, and only my neck would move.

Then, in about 2 seconds flat, I felt a sucking feeling all around me and I was "pulled" back to consciousness. Very amazing feeling, but the overwhelming sense of fear ruined the entire experience.

I'm wondering how I can get past this idea that something is attacking me as soon as I become lucid?? It's getting in the way of some would-be awesome experiences (like flying [|)])

Please help!

Later
~FT

My dreams are wierd and without point. They have me meeting strange creatures and characters that I can never remember what they say.

Occasionally I have a cool dream, like one I had a couple of nights ago where I was fighting a huge triceratops monster with a bunch of people helping me out like out of a video game.

That's beside the point. The dreams can suck. A lot. I tend to wake up in the middle of the night and not being able to get back to sleep too.

I wake up and have trouble getting to sleep because I am afraid something (aliens) will drag me off and do things to me against my will, whilst I'm paralysed. Not very nice thoughts, and has led to some nightmares.

Could somebody please help me with this? It's been bugging me for years.

~FT

Well...Where is it??

For those of you that were around in the good old days, I bet you all miss the old conversations on helping others to get out of body, to help accomplish their goals in NEW Energy Ways, and talking about our experiences "out there" and trying to understand it all.

But now, where the hell has that all gone? This site is filled with Alien-Worshipping egotistical p***s who go around claiming they can talk to aliens, and when we don't believe them they seem to claim that we don't have "open minds" because we choose not to believe them.

Then there was the huge wave of the ki krowd. Some of them are STILL around, in the new guise of "Demon Slayers." All of them blabbing about how cool they were in their last demon-killing endevour.

CUT IT OUT!!! This is supposed to be a website where people can learn about themselves, their experiences, and help others to understand. All you're doing is poisoning it with egotistical crap that nobody really wants to hear. Those that do want to hear are just like you - egotistical prats that just want to be a part of your army and help it grow.

And this Judgement Day stuff...this whole "Demonic War," "2012," "Plaeidians" "Greys" "Demons" BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

You can't prove anything with your "mayan calendars," so stop mustering your armies of weak-minded sheep, or at least TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Once again I understand that this post will probably not be appreciated by anybody on the forum, I'm just ticked off by all the clutter. As usual. Just getting my opinion across

~FT

You arrogant egotistical self-proclaimed "Demon Hunters" should first read Practical Psychic Self-Defense before you start strutting around claiming you've "fought demons many times before."

First off, they are RARE.

Secondly, they are masters of the mind split. If you don't believe in the mind split, than you obviously haven't tried to prove it while out of body. It takes one demon to possess many, contrary to the Bible's reverse idea that it takes many demons to possess one person.

In order to possess, even slightly, the neg (demon, whatever) needs to scare the crap out of you.

Stop it with this Biblical bullcrap where you talk about Demons "gathering" in places and you running in to save the day with your $20 plastic katanas.

As for those who actually can fight negs, I appologise. Enderwiggin, I used to trust you, but then you started this "I'm a demon slayer" crap. Cut it out.

~FT

I have had recent thoughts about how one could go about revolutionising the world in an incredibly extreme way. For those of you who have seen Fight Club, you would probably know what I'm talking about.

At the end of the movie, they end up evacuating all the people of major credit card corporations' headquarters because all the people that worked there were loyal members of the Fight Club. Anyhoo, that sort of thing would crash the world's economy, allowing for a total changeover and purging of the materialistic bullcrap that exists in the world.

I was wondering though, would doing such a thing cause the perpetrator bad karma, even though his intentions are (in a way) good??

Later
~FT

[-Enthusiasm-Eyes asleep-Body relaxed-Mind focused on something-Exteriorised awareness]

So far I have read many posts and articles on how to perform astral projection. Of these items of information I have come across some very different methods of how to do this. Of these two of them confuse me:

-Jeff Mash seems to argue that techniques like ROPE are performed too much focusing on feeling the body, when it is actually body awareness...more of a mental manipulation than anything else.

-All this on Astral Phasing. It's a bit much for somebody who has only read Astral Dynamics.

It seems to me that the prime ingredients for an out of body experience are:

-Enthusiasm
-Eyes asleep
-Body relaxed
-Mind focused on something
-Exteriorised awareness

All of which I have trouble with doing.

With enthusiasm I get bored because I do not see any signs of progress.

With eyes asleep I keep thinking that I'm doing it wrong, when I probably aren't, but still, it is proving difficult.

Body relaxed seems the only exception, but it takes forever to do, which takes the initial enthusiasm to have a projection attempt out of the equation.

My mind tends to wander, but Jeff_Mash said that this is what we want - a kind of daydreaming state. But I'm confused. Are you saying that I should fall asleep before I can "wake up" in the astral??

Exteriorised awareness has usually caused twitching or tensing of some kind in my body, no matter what techniques I use.

A note on techniques
Every time I have a projection exit attempt I am constantly flickering between techniques. I think this could be a problem...


I really need help with OBE, any tips or clarifications on the ingredients or anything, please, I really really want to get out!!!

~FT

[But Fatteh, what are you getting at???]

I read somewhere that a binaural is like an astral aide, and can be likened to floatation devices for children learning to swim.

The child is afraid of the water, and as such doesn't want to go in, even though the parents know that the child will be safe because of the floaties. So dad comes along and throws the child into the pool as a kind of joke, to get his child used to swimming.

The child panics and frantically swims back to shore, usually quite frightened of the experience.

Some could say the child was swimming, but then again you can say just the opposite.


But Fatteh, what are you getting at???

Simple. Binaurals are like swimming floaties, and being thrown into the water is the kind of effect they can have. In other words, spontaneous OBE. They can make you suddenly pop out there, sometimes into an uncontrolled environment, and you might panic and head straight back to your body.

Few people have used binaurals and completely gone "cold turkey" from them and been able to have OBEs easily. It's like a drug or some kind of addiction, like your mind gets too easily attuned to only having conscious-exits with the binaural. People who want to start with the binaurals tend to have to ween themselves off, which isn't very good.

Weening yourself off of binaurals can be likened to quitting smoking with a patch. You're still pumping nicotine into your body, so you are still slightly addicted as you go off of the poison.

Correct me if I'm wrong so I can tend to any wounds I could have from shooting myself in the foot [|)]


You're saying that binaurals are bad??

No, I'm just speculating whether they are such a good idea all the time. Programs like HoloSync can help greatly, and even improve meditation outside of using the binaurals.

But when it comes to astral projection, I'm still a bit iffy about binaurals.

So the question is...
Binaural, or not binaural???

Which do you think would give the projector the most skill and control??
Is it such a good idea??
Do binaurals actually improve projection outside of use, or is that just a placebo???

Thanks
~FT

I am SICK TO DEATH of all this alien hype!

Raise your hands class if you have heard a story that aliens are nice. Now keep your hands up if you have ALSO heard stories that are EQUALLY believable that they are bad. By now I'm guessing that most people on this forum will have their hands up.

I have the recent misfortune of an alien fanatic preaching to me that they are nice. I am torn between naughty and nice, and in the end I don't want to bother because even the existance of aliens is questionable - WE could have created THEM. Not the other way around. Thoughtforms! Or even...NEGS!

That being said, this wanker continues to press on my beliefs, being like the freaking Spanish Inquisition. I tell him to tinkle off and I don't want to believe that they are bad or good, just enigmatic. He tells me that this is why the aliens don't just come out and speak to the masses, because it would tread on the beliefs of the people. WRONG, Einstein. If a huge fleet of aliens appeared in mass numbers IN THE PHYSICAL and made public speeches, we would believe them much better than if they did what they are apparantly doing right now.

Then he tells me he is not trying to make me believe, just "wake up from my sleep." I'm sorry did I miss something. THAT'S JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID! Let's translate that. "I don't want you to believe, I just want you to believe." TEN OUT OF FREAKIN TEN. He tells me to do my research on them and then I will believe. Okay then, that's like having a preacher tell a skeptical little boy to read the bible. The kid is a total gullible idiot so he does the research and believes. And clap clap morons, the material you people "research" is just as shaky and unstable as the Bible itself. Go away.

Meeting these aliens is ambiguous, enigmatic, and you can't prove anything. For one, I have already said, it is questionable these things are even existant, and how they were created is a mystery and will remain so. Then, there is the fact that one group of people says they are bad, then the other says they are nice. Talking to an alien won't prove a damned thing because if they can traverse space and time, they sure as hell can lie. You can NOT verify that what ANY alien says is the truth. PERIOD. STOP PESTERING ME YOU ALIEN-WORSHIPPING IDIOTS. By the way, the guy I said this to would not get it. So in preperation for total numbskulls reading this, I will demonstrate it in a story.

Danny, 5 years old, comes to tell Mom and Dad that his big brother, Steve, did something bad. Mom likes Steve more, and Dad likes Danny. Mom thinks Danny lies to get his brother in trouble, and Dad thinks that Danny is a little angel. Now I step in. I'm the random investigator man in the middle. I ask Mom, she says that Danny is a lying little turd. I ask Dad, he says that Danny is telling the truth. I ask Danny, and he just says that his brother did it. Now if he can both lie and tell the truth, which is he doing? He isn't telling me, and if he said he is telling the truth, that could be a lie too. Now if you're a total dork like my friend is, you don't understand the purpose of this story, so go shoot yourself. You're too stupid to live. Replace Mom with people who are scared of the big bad aliens, Dad with the people who love and practically worship the aliens, Danny with aliens, and Steve with whatever the aliens are saying.

The problem all you people have is that you are too damned gullible for either side. The people who think they are bad live in a world of fear and insomnia. The people who think they are here to help us are the kinds of people that hate society and think that it cannot save itself, so we need some kind of superhero to come save the day.

If you are still reading this and telling me to "wake up from my sleep" or "do some research" or "meet an alien in the astral," you're better off to go kill yourself now, because it's only a matter of time before you walk into traffic or have a car crash or catch an STD because you screwed some idiot without protection. Leave me alone, and lay off the aliens damn it.

~FT

A few years ago, my teacher told the class that a very wise man told her that there are approximately 10 dimensions. The 3rd is what we apparantly reside in, and the 4th spans across the waves of time (Real time Zone/Astral?). Above our dimension the man claimed we cannot percieve, and the lower dimensions we can see, but anything in a lower dimension could not see us, for the minds of those beings/things would be too simple to comprehend it.

But with Astral Projection, we are essentially going into and percieving another dimension. So that must be it. Our physical brains cannot percieve anything higher, but that is why we have our other energetic bodies.

Any other thoughts and comments appreciated
~FT

The topic title may alarm some of you, but when my mom went to Australia, she took the liberty to look for Astral Dynamics for me. I even told her it was written by Robert Bruce. Now either the clerk couldn't find it in the database and assumed it, or he was right, but he said it stopped printing. This is odd, it's a recent book, and usually books only stop printing after several years...

~FT

I am now convinced that I am THIS close || to getting out of body!!

You see, this morning I tried things a little different. I put my duvet on the floor, and put one pillow on it for slight comfort. I had my arms held above my head so I would not fall asleep, and I got myself all relaxed blah blah blah. The reason I was on the floor was because I have a bunk bed, and it is quite difficult for me to exteriorize body awareness when there's only 2 or 3 feet of space above me. With a lot of distance between the roof and the floor, I really felt a lot of sensations when bounce loosening my projectable double.

I felt a throbbing and expanding around me, and then I felt a rush of energy up my legs. Unfortunately, my eyes were relaxed a lot and due to my position of lying down they wanted to fall open. I had to concentrate and force my eyes shut, making an annoying twitching movement around my face. The sensation of energy rushing stopped at my waist, and the projection attempt ended.

I'm going to try again tomorrow morning around the same time of 4-5am, and I'm going to prop my head up so gravity keeps my eyes relaxed but shut. Wish me luck!

~FT

Negs have been attacking more prominently and people notice the more ever since Practical Psychic Self-Defense was released. I'm not saying that's a bad thing that the book was published, I'm just saying that it's a bad thing that people have a sort of placebo effect from the book, causing them to be more aware of bad things attacking them, and not necessarily having the faith that they can vanquish those things(such as myself). I mean, now I believe that the astral realm is full of these baddies, when it actually isn't. I'm scared to death of projecting because of my fear of sleep paralysis, an alien abduction experience, and negs in general.

This vast attention to negs probably is caused by and generates paranoia. This paranoia makes one so wary that they could in fact attract negs (such as myself). Any way to help these people? And maybe we should just lay off all the scary talk. The Astral is meant to be a place of beauty and activity and learning, not of attack and scariness and traumatising aliens.

~FT

Hey everyone! Just here to wish you all a happy new year, and hoping that those damned aliens don't attack any time soon[].

So amidst all this craziness of UFOs, wars in 2012, negs, demons, blah blah blah, time to put on some happy faces for once and look forward to the new year!

Happy 2004, hope all goes well and keep up with your training!

Best wishes
~FT

Hi.

I just returned from a very wierd deep trance, possibly even sleep, where I noticed I could not use awareness actions well at all. If I was using them, I could not feel them. Which was strange because I was very deeply relaxed, yet I felt no energy sensations. For one, I could not tell where my feet or my arms were. When I finally found them, the awareness actions had no effect. Regardless, I proceeded to practice activating the primary energy centers (chakras) while in the trance, to hopefully induce an OBE. All attempts failed. The slightest feeling I got from an awareness action was unwanted to say the least, when I tried to stimulate the base center and well...you know what can happen from there[B)].

After that I "woke up," from my altered state, still feeling a little bit wierd and noticing that my vision was a little funny, if not I felt a little clairvoyant. No, I didn't see much except for better auric sight than what I'd usually have, and that isn't even that impressive. I proceeded to do some awareness actions and I am starting to think that Robert Bruce was wrong when he said that the energy body has a memory...mine seems to have clogged up again after spending weeks, if not months off of the NEW system.[]

Please help!

~FT

For centuries, nay, millenia, mankind has wondered the meaning of life, their purpose within it, and that omnipresent word: WHY?

Why does all of this exist? Why does anything happen at all? Why? Why? Why???

Well, let's look at one of those "why?" questions. Why do all the bad things happen? Why can't it all be good? Well, yin and yang. As has been repeated many times, the bad balances the good. But it's more than that I believe. I believe it adds spice to life. It makes it more dramatic. Take a movie...for example...The Matrix. What would Neo be if there was no Agents. What if there was nothing stopping people from going in and out of The Matrix enjoying themselves? There would be no point to his powers. "But Fatteh he would have so much fun!!!111" No, he'd get pretty bored. Which is also exactly why I question psionics, ki, and all of those things. If there is no enemy, then why do it at all? For fun? The fun wouldn't last.

Which leads me to my next point, which pretty much covers my entire revelation. The purpose of life is drama. The first spark of consciousness, call it God, call it The Source, call it whatever, I don't care, but whatever it was it would probably get bored by itself, with no world to reside in. I mean, one popular theory is that it split itself into what is now humanity, so it can study itself in the physical plane and return to itself in the afterlife. I say, still, for drama. It makes things spicy. It makes the mix...interesting. Boredome sucks, everybody knows that. I mean, if I were an omnipresent blob of consciousness, how the hell would I like it if I spent eternity just thinking. No fun.

Drama is what drives purpose. Purpose is what drives us. Purpose completes us. Without the negativity, positivity cannot be defined. And it becomes boring. Same goes the other way around. Nobody living in a "perfect world" would realise how "perfect" it really is. I think they would be more bored than optimistic about their "utopia."

After all, if negativity was so "bad," then everything negative  should not exist. But no, it's not. Negative emotions can guide us as well. When used wrongly however, they don't guide us, they rather guide the drama. Take anger. We get mad at somebody for either the wrong reasons or we just blow it out of proportion. In which case our purpose in the situation in which we lost our cool becomes to apologise. Variety of feelings makes the feelings defined, and thus useful, and thus completing the spices and mixture and overall DRAMA that is life.

So what is my purpose? What is your purpose? To help people? To enlighten oneself? I say it's all of those and none of them at the same time. My purpose in life is to make it as interesting as possible. My purpose is to be the best I can be, and to enjoy the ride. My purpose is to have fun.

~FT

Oh hey everybody. Just need to clear up some things.

First off, apologies.

Sorry to the ki people for flaming them. Sorry for being a drunkard on the forums. I know some of you would rather I wasn't here at all, seeing as my retarded and contradictory statements just won't go away, and I don't seem to realise it at all. And I'm genuinely sorry for all the bad posts I've made.

Second, frustrations.

My life as a spiritual person seems more of a failure than anything else. I realise more and more that in my efforts to be a good person, I still remain the same contradictory twat I was when I started, and even before then. I usually don't care what other people think of me, unless they think I am something I'm not, and spread it around as the gospel truth. For example, everybody in my entire life believes I do not have any self control, and that I don't even make any efforts to try to get some. That pisses me off. Why? I don't know. All I know is that I am way more controlled than before, it's just that some people can't f***ing well leave me alone. With all the subtle stabs people take at me, like pretending to meditate with the hugest f***ing smirks on their faces right in front of my face, it's difficult to maintain one's temper. My spirituality IS close to me, after all, and perhaps the fact that I want people to percieve me as who I am, not something that is not me.

Anyways, I hope you can forgive me, because I probably won't be posting as much as I used to, and if I am then I've just failed at another thing - not being a total dips***. I'll keep training with astral projection sure, but what the hell.

It's just too damn hard to maintain a good level of integrity(sp?) and self esteem, hell, even spirituality, when the whole f***ing world sees you as a f***up. whoopdecrap.

Yeah, this really IS relavent isn't it? Go ahead and flame me, I freakin well deserve it.

Later
~FT

I hope you're all freakin happy. I bet you that you've ALL scared Robert Bruce away.

He used to grace this forum with his advice and help, but with all the DBZ crap and ego-hand-jobs that go on, I bet he doesn't even write books anymore.

The NEW book was supposed to come out AGES ago, and it never did. Why? All you jackoffs probably made him lose hope that people really cared about his work. Thanks a f*cking bunch. I hope you're all freakin happy.

Bruce, if you can hear this, PLEASE DON'T STOP WRITING YOUR BOOKS! I LOVE YOUR WORK AND IT IS EVERYTHING THAT GIVES MY SPIRITUALITY A FIRM FOUNDATION! Don't give up on the few of us that really CARE!

~FT

Okay everyone it's time to sit back, relax, and enjoy the little idiots..I mean children in all of us!

This is a neverendingstory. Every post adds a little bit on. The rules are...well there are no rules! Just don't make the post so long that you can't read it without taking HOURS!! (Cainam I'm looking in your direction) And try to keep semi-literate...geez. Spelling and grammar reasonable, none of this r, u, y, 2 bullcrap.

Keep it small, about 1-3 paragraphs maybe...perhaps 5 if it's not too long.

So I'll start...*ahem*

Once in a land not so far away and not a very long time ago, in fact it could be in the distant future. Who knows? Anyways, there lived a small little creature that looked somewhat like a combination of a cornchip and a pineapple lump. One day...

Well, let's start with what I really REALLY want to make a point of. You people spend too much time messing around on these forums, when in fact you really should be training on getting out out of body.

Okay okay, I know from reading Tisha's Essay on OBE that it is perfectly normal to be fascinated with OBE, read about it, say that you are training, when in actual fact you've only put in a few minutes every month, if even that.

But I must disagree with one of Tisha's statements, that of being "poor"  for lack of better word, in order to lead a relaxed lifestyle. That may work, but it is like giving up one's physical life for the one outside of it. If that was such a good idea, then why are we "wasting"  time here? Exactly, we're not. Both goals CAN be achieved. But you WILL have to compromise. Spend less time on the computer you Astral Pulse junkies, and less time watching TV etc.

I mean, if you know there is nothing on, and you are bored, then train. If it is a show you really like, you can watch it, but be aware of your goal of being a projector, and be aware that you are losing time getting towards that goal if you do other things.

In actual fact, training for OBE is not as hard or as arduous as it sounds. It is simply a matter of time and patience. First you have to put in the time for it, and that is where many would-be projectors go wrong, including myself. You hardly see the mods posting right? That's because they are out enjoying themselves in the Astral. After you put in the time, be prepared for things going slow at first. Patience is a virtue my friends.

Then there are your core skills. These do not, and I repeat, DO NOT, come over night. If you are using Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics, I highly recommend looking at the 90-day AD workbook in the downloads section of the website for some guidelines and ideas. The general idea of it is to work at your energy body one bit at a time, keeping all the old steps and gradually building it up (after having some preliminary training in MBA and TI). Relaxation is the same, working WITH energy development, to squeeze down time. 5-60 minutes a day is all that is recquired for the ENTIRE THING, at least one focus exercise, some energy development, and some relaxation training.

Then you move on to inducing trances instead of relaxation and focus, because it is already good enough.

Then during your final weeks you test out the projection exit techniques. Believe me, the structure in the 90-day plan is incredibly useful. You do not have to follow that guide SPECIFICALLY, but it is a good guideline for building your own plan. You do not have to work on energy body, then relaxation, then focus in seperate packages. Wrap them up into one package and work on each very important aspect every day.

And above all, never lose your inspiration to project. I did and I should have been projecting a couple of months ago. Fear not the unknown, and keep a positive, yet patient, attitude towards it all. It is worth the effort, and the effort really isn't that much when you look at it.

Time and patience my friends, approach them with a smile.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
~FT

got your attention didn't I?

http://www.geocities.com/ki_masters_for_christ/

go to this page, funniest crap I've ever seen...

especially if you go to the pics section. First off, notice that you see two KIDS, approx. 13 years old, with DRAGON BALL Z T SHIRTS ON, and then you notice that the pictures are so obviously doctored it's not funny.

Losers like this make energy ways look like a joke.

I hate people like that, and if anybody believes in them, grow the hell up before someone hurts you while you're "powering up" to blow the crap out of them with your amazing kamehameha (which, by the way, was named after Akira Toriyama's wife, Akira Toriyama being the creator of DBZ, so they didn't derive that move out of your retarded little websites, okay?)

Okay I'm just gonna be short and to the point here.

Write any way you can practice telepathy here. A lot of sites talk about it, but give no practical exercises for well...practice. Just do this and that and you'll do it, right? Wrong. I'm prepared to get a partner, just list some please!

~FT