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Thanks for the reply.
I guess this means that shamanic concepts like power animals can be compared to the spirit guides of the astral dimensions?
I suppose its just that if you want hep from a power animal you may get one but if you expect a human guide you may see help in this form.
I understand that things in astral appear to you in the way you expect them to appear to you.

Another question that interests me is the shamanic concept of death/rebirth.
In this the shaman apprentice is stripped of all flesh and rebuilt in the underworld with a stronger body suited for more serious shamanic work.
Do you think this experience is similair (but more extreme) to Robert Bruce's idea of removing core images when he psychicly spring cleans his inner being. There is an article on this site from Bruce on this subject.

I remember my first OBE - until I discovered that the vibrations/paralysis I experienced every Monday I took a nap before starting my night-shift job was the gateway to an OBE I used to struggle and panic to move my physical body.
When the paralysis occured after first reading Monroes book I just thought 'get up' and suddenly was standing up. I thought I was still awake in the physical so I decided to jump up and then I floated to the ceiling then down again.
I bounced around the bedroom for a couple of minutes before I decided to return to the body then instantly I awoke back in the physical.
Although I've had a few decent OBE's since then, the clarity of the first time out has never been matched.
I know how ecstatic you must feel Helen
I take it you'll now be trying for more OBE's ASAP?
I've started using the BWGEN files to hopefully kick start my astral night-life again.

I have just downloaded them and will take the advice posted above when I begin using them. I also downloaded a preset from the Presets page of the bwgen site called Tommi's Vibration Starter.
I have tried this for 2 nights and here's what happened.
I created an hour long wav file and played it when going to sleep. Nothing happened. I was probably too tired and I am totally useless at concentration/visualisation etc.
I awoke at around 4am, got up for around 10 minutes, splashed cold water on my face to wake myself up and then went back to bed.
I tried again and after what was about 30 minutes the vibrations kicked in. I got exited because I didn't really expect them to kick in which ruined it and the vibrations faded. I failed to get them again and I must have fell asleep.
I have always found that waking up after 4-5 hours sleep then going back to sleep later was the best method of bringing on the vibrations. In my life I have only had 6 'proper' OBEs where I felt completely free of the body and all the other attempts have either failed due to weak vibrations or not getting totally out of the body before getting thrown back in.
Hopefully these bwg files (and some serious attempts to relax, concentrate) will help me out. I will keep using this preset before moving to F27.
Is F27 or F27a best?