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quote:Originally posted by Blue Light Mystic

It's always good to eat anything that's a fruit or vegetalble in it's raw and uncooked form

Hi Blue Light Mystic,
I was wondering about this because I've heard people who agree with you, but I've also heard people say that when you eat raw vegetables it takes up much more energy to digest than you actually get from the food, so it's ultimately not beneficial, or perhaps it is better to eat them steamed than raw. Can you shed some light on this?

Hi Meg,

this is interesting because I first learned to lucid dream because I had chronic nightmares as a child. One time I was telling my mom about my nightmares and she said "you know they're you're dreams, and you can change them if you want to." That's all it took. I think you are absolutely right about the reason for it. Nightmares arouse powerful emotions (obviously) and that helps stimulate awareness. Also, nightmares tend to be rather bizarre, so they arouse the critical judgement part of your brain. ("OK I'm being chased by a giant slug-beast. Is there some chance I might actually be dreaming?")

It seems to me that you've gotten to this point. There are two options for the next step. One is to take control of the dream, and change whatever is frightening you. All I can say about this is that it is an act of will. Hold on to the fact that you are dreaming this, creating it. And then choose to change it. With practice you will get it.
The second option is to find out why you are having these nightmares. If they are recurring, and you mentioned that they are theme-based, then they are probably a message from your subconscious. If you are just trying to use your awareness to astral project, and ignoring the message, the subconscious will just yell louder (ie. generate more and more fear) because it wants you to listen to its message. So next time you have a nightmare, stop, become aware, and listen to your dream. You can turn to a character in your dream and say "What's going on here? What are you trying to tell me?" or something like that. Or else you can think about it symbolically afterwards. I imagine there are also lots of people on this board who can help you interpret it. Once you have accepted and really heard the message from your subconscious, the nightmares will disappear. Then you are free to continue using your dreams as astral launchpads.

Another method (this has worked for me) is to have a little conversation with your subconscious before you go to sleep. Say something like "Ok, I know you're trying to tell me something in these dreams, but I'm not getting the message. I don't understand what you're saying and frankly you're scaring the crap out of me. Could you tone it down a little bit and try a different way of sending the message? I promise I'll do my best to listen"

good luck, and let us know how it goes.

ash

re the lapse in focus, I have found exactly the same thing. Every time I experience vibrations, etc it is after I have been trying some technique or other, or else just taking a nap, but at some point my consciousness will drift and then I will sort of snap back into awareness and realize I got lost for a minute. Then everything starts. I think the reason for this is because the vibrations, etc are a delicate natural process that can't be forced to happen. The goal of the techniques (at least at first) is to maintain awareness while the projection reflex occurs, not to force the reflex. For us beginners, if we are trying too hard the reflex will never happen. It's only when we let go of our grip for a minute that it can happen. And then, hopefully, we snap back and become aware during the process.

i don't know if i've ever encountered serious negative energy attachments (how would you tell the difference?), but i just assumed that they operate under the same energetic principles as other emotional and physical energies, etc. maybe you're right though, and they're totally different and so you'd need different techniques to defend against them.

yep there are two points actually in the same general area. one is just above the webbing between the big toe and second toe, and the other is about an inch higher. They are called "Xing Jian" and "Tai Chong" (Liver 2 and Liver 3 in the numbering system).

You should be able to get the location pretty easily by applying a little pressure with your thumb and sliding it up and down between the two tendons. You will feel a dull ache or sort of a numb feeling when you're on the right spot.

i've had lots of similar experiences to tom when doing reiki. i feel all kinds of physical and emotional symptoms from the person i'm working on. i think of this more as empathy then negative energy transfer. The same way if someone is really upset you can usually tell just by looking at them, even if they don't say anything. It's a natural human ability that helps us to understand and help others. And for a while I would have lingering symptoms after the treatment.

I have two things I do which have helped me a lot.
1) Before and during the treatment I make sure I focus on my intention. That is, I am there to assist the person to heal. I am NOT there to heal them. It's a small difference but an important one. For example, if I am trying to heal someone, it is easy to slip into the mindset of "I am going to take this person's pain away". If that's my mindset, that's what happens. I take their headache, or whatever, and it becomes a part of me. One could say that in trying to heal this person, I've assumed responsibility for their pain or negative attachments. It's important to keep in mind that each person is responsible for their own healing, and my job as healer is just to provide the opportunity for that, not to absorb their suffering.

2) Immediately after the treatment, I cleanse myself. I do a quick inventory of how my body and emotions feel, and if I find something that wasn't there before the treatment, I say something like "this does not belong to me and I release it completely". I might also do something like the shower exercise or just brush off my body with my hands at the same time.

These two things have helped me tremendously. I hope they're of some use to you.

ash

p.s. Tom, there's an acupoint between the bones of the big toe and second toe in a depression an inch or so above the webbing between them. It can really help to lower blood pressure. Just massaging the area or doing some energy work on it may help.

thanks for the responses guys. this is all very useful input. It's nice to know other people have the same problems, too. I guess it just boils down to practice practice practice.

ash

In acupuncture theory, there are several major and lots of minor meridians that carry energy through the body. Of the major ones, half go up and half go down. It seems to make sense. I think of it like veins and arteries, some carry energy in and some out. I agree with Tom, I think it's important to balance them. But also, when you work in one direction you also strengthen the other. The goal is a good clear FLOW of energy, not to take energy and move it somewhere else, and leave it there. In my opinion, anyways.

Do what feels comfortable for you, and if it works, it works!

this has happened to me before too, during both dreams and astral projections. I've heard some of the most amazingly beautiful pieces of music, far beyond what i've heard before or what i could imagine. I've also read whole books that were amazingly good...

I find if a message is important it will tend to repeat itself. So yeah, monitor your thoughts and if you get any "incongruent" thoughts or images, take a note and then let them go. If the same image keeps repeating itself, then it is probably important in some way. In my experience, though, they can be either literally true or else metaphorically true. Sometimes it talks in symbols and emotions that are a lot like dreams.
A lot of the time (at least with me, since I'm not that good at it) I will think my thoughts are about something and actually they are intuitive messages about something else.
I'll give you a couple of examples of things that have happened with me.

I was giving a Reiki treatment to a woman once, and nothing was happening. I mean usually I feel some sort of energy moving, or I get a feeling about the person, or something. But absolutely nothing was happening. I kept thinking "What am I doing wrong? There is absolutely nothing happening here. I must have screwed something up or I must not be paying attention. It's like I'm not even giving a Reiki treatment. It's like this person isn't even here" So I kept trying to concentrate harder and move more energy and the whole time I couldn't feel anything. The thoughts kept going "It's like this person's not even here. It's like she's invisible." So then, I realized this might actually be a message. I felt pretty silly, but I asked her "Do you ever feel like you're invisible?" And it turned out this was exactly how she felt her whole life. It sparked a long discussion that was very beneficial to both of us. What seemed like my own error was actually my subconscious mind telling me something very specific.

Another time, doing Reiki again, among the many thoughts in my head, I got an image of a little girl with a stuffed animal, a horse. Again I didn't pay much attention to it, but it kept coming back. The thing was, the woman I was working on had very dark hair, but the little girl in my mind was blonde. It kept coming back so eventually I asked her if she used to have a horse and she said no, so I felt stupid and I let the subject drop. I thought I was tuning in to random mental garbage. Then five minutes later she told me she suddenly remembered about her stuffed horse, that was her favorite toy, but she had totally forgotten about it for years. And her hair used to be much lighter when she was a child.

So listen, acknowledge, and have trust. Sometimes you might be wrong. Sometimes you might be right, but there will be no way to verify it, or if you're dealing with another person that person might not realize you're right. But the more faith you put in repeating subconscious messages, the more accurate they will become, I think.

i was doing the NEW full body circuit for quite a while the other night, and when i woke up the next morning i had a small pimple exactly in my third eye, and i rarely get pimples.
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quote:Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior

The fact is that this war is about freedom, justice - and oil. It's called multitasking. Get used to it!

So, all in all, and at the risk of being extremely babyish myself, I'd go so far as to say that my argument's bigger than yours. Of course, you think the same about your side. And we won't change our minds. Ever. So let's do each other a favour and agree not to rattle each other's cages (playpens?) until the whole thing's over. Free speech and diversity - let's enjoy it!

this is without a doubt one of the most asinine things i've ever read. If I can paraphrase the above two quotes:

"So it's okay to bomb anybody who doesn't agree with your ideology, as long as they have something you want, and you say you're fighting for freedom and justice. Being free means other people aren't allowed to disagree with you. Being just means you are allowed to kill them if you're sure you're right.

But hey, if you don't agree with me it's fine. We shouldn't fight about it, because freedom means we're allowed to disagree without getting angry at each other. Unless of course you don't agree with me and I'm bigger, stronger, and more sure I'm right. In that case I'll blow you up"

my definition of karma is not the "standard" definition but I think it is more correct than the usual "punishment and reward" type approach. Karma is simply the law that what you do, and who you are, will affect what comes into your life. It is not punishment or reward, it is simply the way the universe works. For example, if you're a mean, grumpy person, you're not gonna have very many friends. Not because God is punishing you, but because most people don't like hanging around grumpy people.

As Shawn said, the purpose of life is to live, learn, and love. And naturally, the longer we live, the better we learn how to do these things. It's a natural effect of being alive, having practice. So naturally as you are reincarnated you become wiser and more loving. This automatically generates more positive karma, because like attracts like. Enlightenment simply means that you have progressed so far that you are thoroughly enjoying the process of living, learning, and loving, and so everything you do naturally has only beneficial consequences for all concerned, including yourself. Hence no more negative karma. In my mind, if you believe in one you have to believe in all 3.

The only other option is that we are all eternal souls being consistently reincarnated for no purpose whatsoever. We never learn anything and we're just going round and round. I choose to believe differently.

ash

hi Frank,

I found your comments really interesting, because the pain i feel is such a regular effect that I just assumed everyone felt it. You posted last week about acupuncture. Can I ask whether you have felt pain from acupuncture stimulation? I don't mean the pain of sticking needles in your body, of course. I get acupuncure very regularly (I'm a student of chinese medicine) and almost all the time I get a dull ache in and around the site of the needle. This is one of the several possibilities that we learn is a sign of good qi stimulation. It only occurs to me now that perhaps when I feel pain it is a sign of energy moving through a blocked area (as RB says, strong energy sensations indicating blockage). The sensation I get when doing your method (dull, heavy, throbbing pain) is identical to the sensation from acupuncture. I also get the same sensation sometimes when I use NEW on my hands.

What I'm thinking is that this is indicating that I am getting good energy stimulation, but the area is too blocked to fully activate to the point where it will trigger the vibrations and exit. Any thoughts on this?

cheers,
ash

i have no problem getting energy sensations in my crown and third eye. I get a sort of heavy dull pain in my crown and sometimes a throbbing in my 3rd eye after only a couple of minutes of doing this, but i've never had any sort of vibrations from it. any suggestions?

the goal of yoga as it was originally practiced IS energy work. It's a systematic series of postures, breathwork, and visualization designed to eliminate any blockages. My understanding is that it starts with the postures (asanas) and when your body is more familiar with the movement and the breathing, you are supposed to focus your attention on specific parts of your body, or specific chakras, in each of the asanas. I would recommend if you want to practice yoga for energy work, find a teacher who teaches yoga with that in mind, instead of the many who teach yoga just as a series of stretches for the body. Also B.K.S. Iyengar's "Light on Yoga" is about as comprehensive a yoga manual as it is possible to get.

if the points of tension are in a convenient location you can use acupressure. Just press into it with your thumb (make sure your thumb joint is at a right angle, not locked, as this will give you more strength and focus). You'll know if you're on the right point because you will feel a deep ache or else it will feel tingly or numb. Start with a light pressure and gradually increase. You can move the pressure in a small circle as well, without moving your thumb, if you know what I mean. As a side not, I've noticed that the acupuncture meridians actually are quite close to the NEW system. I've had quite a bit of success using NEW to stimulate the meridians.

hey celeste,

sorry i really didn't mean to insult you, and i certainly respect your beliefs. i just meant that i think it's more important to focus on what i am doing myself, then what somebody or something else might be doing to me. For example if I am being drained by the people i'm around, it's more important for me to learn to protect my boundaries then to blame those around me. The same goes for negs. All I'm saying is that I want to find a solution within myself rather than outside myself. I'm not discounting that such things exist. so what kind of reaction should i look for when i'm brushing to help me tell whether it's a neg or not?

about the brushing, i'm not sure what you mean. isn't that the same as the brushing action as part of the new system?

and thank you very much for sharing what you've learned. []

hi celeste and goingslow,

no i don't really have any stomach problems, except that i am almost always hungry and i have a tendency to get heartburn. I'm in very good health. The mental state and the physical state both feed off each other. The worse I feel, the worse my stomach feels, and vice versa.
It definitely is affected by whatever is going on around me, people's energy, etc. I'm kind of an empath. But i know it's not totally that because I can be in a room with people that I really like and everyone is feeling really good, but I will still have it. Also, I have learned how to shield a little bit. Still need to get better though...
I haven't really considered it as a neg. To be honest, I think way too much stuff is blamed on "negative entities" etc. But I will look into that. If there was an exact point that is the "center" of it I would say it is probably ZhongWan, the mu point of the stomach (i'm assuming since you were talking about meridians that will mean something to you). I haven't noticed it being especially strong in any particular time of day, or while i'm going to sleep. It's more dependant on how I feel and who's around me then what time it is.

When I do the NEW system I get good sensations in my hands and feet, and I can activate the upper three chakras quite well, but when I get down to the heart, solar plexus and navel, i can't feel anything at all

thanks for your comments,

ash

thanks for the reply Tom,


as far as i know there is no medical cause. i haven't talked to a medical doctor about it, because my faith in them is somewhat limited... no food allergies either that i know of.

it is like a tight, dropping, twisting sensation. almost like someone has my stomach in their fist and is clenching it and pulling it down. the area around it is tense as well. the boundaries of where it is are kind of fuzzy. also, it has a tendency to move, especially if i am doing reiki on it or something, it will move down lower or up to my heart.

it is always there, but sometimes it is stronger than others. i can go for a couple of hours without even noticing it, but then when i think to look i will realize it is still there. It tends to get worse when i'm around people, especially people i don't like or people that drain me in some way. It gets noticably stronger when I am depressed, and also if I drink or do any kind of drug. I also feel it really strongly when I am around people who are sick, especially the mentally ill.

quote:Originally posted by Gandalf

They usually reject everything else that is outside this framework for fear that it might disrupt their whole lifes work, or send them into personal chaos and turmoil.
Adrian
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I have often heard the argument posed by materialists that people believe in 'paranormal' realities as it provides a form of comfort and security in an otherwise bleak world (often accompanied by a patronising tone!).
Douglas

the same can be said for absolutely any belief system. In short, we believe things because they serve us in some way. usually that is to make us feel comfortable. i posted something about this a while back, but the point is "reality" can only be experienced through interpretation of our perceptions. because reality is infinite, our possible perceptions and interpretations of that reality are also infinite. to say that someone holds a belief because it gives them security is totally irrelevant. if you are looking for objective proof, there is none. unless, of course, you believe in objective proof. By that I mean that science believes something is proven if it can be physically measured and duplicated. So any non-physical activity can never be proven. If, on the other hand, you believe something is proven by the fact that you perceived it, then anything perceived is automatically true. You can only judge a belief system from within that belief system.

It's kind of hard for me to explain. does that make any sense?

well if you are getting results then it is working. that said, my experience with new is that it is very easy. don't worry about technique so much. as i understand it, the basic theory is that when you focus your awareness on a part of your body, and then move your awareness, it creates energy flow.

you just focus your awareness, and then move it (ie focus it somewhere else). For example, be aware of the sense of touch at the tip of your first finger. rub or scratch it if that helps. now be aware of your first knuckle on that finger. then move back and forth between the tip and the knuckle, feeling everything in between. it feels like you are "brushing" your awareness back and forth between your finger tip and your knuckle. that's it! the sponging action is similar except that it is deeper and it moves only one way instead of back and forth. i'm not so clear on what sponging feels like myself, but i think the important thing is that you are taking your awareness and moving it up, pulling energy with it. sometimes i use it as if my fingers were hollow and i am sucking up energy through my fingers as if they were straws. i seem to get strong results that way, so it works for me.

ash

that's really interesting aprilb, because i went through exactly the same thing. I started having spontaneous obe's as in my early teens, and they were a bit strange but never really frightening. but for some reason when i got to be 16 or 17, the vibrations started to get really violent. I would be napping in the middle of the day and it would feel literally as if some demonic entity was trying to rip me out of my body. the more i fought the more powerful they would get. And then after high school it happened less and less often. Now for the last few years I've been trying so hard to have an obe but it happens pretty rarely, and when it does, the vibrations are very mild.

I think it's just part of a natural process. probably has to do with the lifestyle that age, and all the changes taking place in your body, etc. I seriously don't think there were any other entities or negative energies involved. You'll find a lot of info on the vibrations and other exit sensations on this website. Basically they are just symptoms of the fact you are phasing out of the physical and into the astral. If you just relax and go with them, they only last a few minutes and feel pretty good usually. But if you fight them after they've started enough to get some momentum, the fight will prolong the experience and they can possibly get frightening...

hope that helps

chinese medicine has a huge selection of herbs for virtually any purpose. i don't know about the availability of them where you guys are though. here in bc, canada they're pretty easy to come by. i won't put a big list here but if anybody's interested about something specific just ask

i think it's important to remember that if we are sending energy for a purpose (ie peace) we should keep in mind that we don't always know what the "best" thing is. we might think peace is a good thing, but the truth of the matter is that there is a time for peace and a time for war. maybe true peace can only be achieved through conflict. so if we send energy with the rigid belief that peace is the only "good" result, we can actually be hurting the situation instead of helping it. What I suggest is whenever you send energy anywhere, always keep your intent flexible. "I am sending this energy for peace or whatever is best for all concerned" is much better then "I am sending energy for peace"

ash