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So who is willing to journey out into the unknown?  Who is able?  Adrian, why not test your outgoingness and take a ride to the center of our galaxy and tell us what you find.  I find this all so incredibly interesting, anti-matter, positrons, I've never heard of this kinda stuff in my 9th grade science class!  I know now, this is what I want to do!  I wanna be a scientist, either a neuroscientist or an astrophysicist.  Well, I've always known that I wanna become some sort of scientist or philospher, I have so many choices and potential paths to take--especially since I'm 16.  I'm majoring in psychology right now and am always chatting with my professor about OBEs and such, but It seems she is always asking me the questions, lol.  She tells me one day: "hey Adam, I found out that having an OBE is all in your head, it mental experience."  I was like in my head.. "duhh...."

But anyway, I am very eager to hear of any black hole experiences!

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I would consider Adrian a very wise person- if he/she (dont know) can astral project at will, try to picture all the learning and development that came from such higher sources.  We would all agree that there is only ONE Truth, as there is only one God.  Projectors have seen this light, this higher awareness, and know it objectively for what it is.  Though I hate to mention anything astral, let alone mental as objective--as it is not--it is the only way I could describe Truth, Oneness, as someone being able to experience it firsthand.

Sure Adrian claims to know Truth, for what God is and represents--having extended him/herself to close conscious levels-- but Adrian knows only what he/she has learned from perceptive experience, and a great deal of it may actually be the absolute Truth (bits and pieces of it anyway)...  But I really think the Truth is... that there is non that can comprehend the levels of God, on that same level, for it is unfathomably, mortally impossible.  We may be able to experience and learn, firsthand, from the Universe, other dimensions, maybe even heaven.. But being human has its limits.  We just have to go with the flow, learn, moralize, and adapt.

Truth simply IS. It is ALL.  And I know that to be true.  Therefor I know the Truth. [8]

[My biggest questions are]

Adrian-
Wow, I would try to continue with my earleir post, but I was just too awe-struken by your sense of wisdom and knowledge, I mean how exactly do you know all that stuff? What are inner-speheres? I don't recall any of those in Astral Dyanmics.  Can you regularly project?  Are you saying that all of our past lives are embedded within our silver cord?  Is one able to access memories from these past lives? If so, how?

Adam-
Hey, what a coinsidence, my name's Adam too.  Great post, I was neglegtant to read it due to its length, but am happy I did    Very interesting, you know I put a lot of time into reading and (trying to) piece everything (the TRUTH about the state of the world) together, myself.  I have heard and read of the exact same stuff that you mention, but probably am a lot less knowledgable of the conspirecies, for I have books on about it, but have not yet read any of them (still reading Body of Secrets by James Bamford, about the NSA).  I hear a lot about 'greys' and the reptilian aliens, and all the underground and, below the bottom sea level 'bases' or perhaps 'homes.' I have a book called Children of the Matrix byDAvid Icke which deals with governemt conspirecies, aliens, AIDS/HIV scam, Nazi, etc.  I have always wondered my self, what has happened to the Nazi, if they are stll in some sort of intact, powerful state?  Did Hitler have anything to do with aliens?  If the Nazi really did have UFO technology in World War II, why have we not seen it?  Did a higher ruling party take over and hide the truth about man's evolutionary outcome (if it has anything to do with aliens), is the US part of it?  Are other countries involved with extra-terrestrial life?

My biggest questions are-, Is it really getting close to 'armageddon,' or is mankind undergoing some sort of transformation, a new begining?  What is the truth between US and alien ties?  Is there really going to be a 'second coming?' Who/what will it be?  Will it be another messiah, what would he/she be considered?  What's this deal about there coming another Adam & Eve?  I heard Rael (you know, that alien preacher guy involved with clonaid) talking about it.  When will the 'Hall of Records' be unearthed from the chambers below the Sphinx?  Supposedly, the -=History of History=- is inscribed within the documents below the Sphnix.  It should contain historical records of ATLANTIS, Osiris, Aliens, anti-gravitation technology, daily cultural life of Atlantians, *roots of mankind*.  Rael says aliens came to earth like 25,000 years ago and cloned their genes into the most evolved primates, creating a whole new breed.  What is the US's role in a 'new world order?'

Man, it's hard to sleep at night when thinking about all this, it really is mind boggling.  You know, through AP I bet someone could learn a great deal about the truth behind the lies of our world.  Too bad I still can't []

Adam- can you willfuly project?


Sincerely, Adam   (heh)

DjMidgetMan says in response to me:

quote:Well, the universe is governed by laws that are inchangable to us. The only possible answer to the universe's creation is to believe that there is a higher being that is above these laws. You have to understand that the universe is not a 'living being' itself, but mere matter. The laws of the universe are consistent and the universe does not have its own will to break these laws. It is governed by its own laws and the universe itself does not break its own laws. The only possible reasonable answer for matter to come from nothing is an intelligent being to create it. Excuse me if what i just wrote sounds like mumbling because im damn tired...  Also, I have not insulted you once, why do you have to consistently procede to insult me?

Of course the there are universal laws which all must consist by.  You are entirely correct when you say the universe does not have the Will to do whatever it wants and break these laws of physics.  But why does that have anything to do with God being seperate from the universe?  The universe is All.  Why would god be seperate from the All?  It does not make sense.  

Again, there is no proof that universe has a consciousness.  This does not proof its existance, it does not disproof its existance.  The only reason why you are thinking and aware, the only reason why you have a consciousness in the first place, is because of all the inner workings and components that make you, YOU, all the interneurons in you spinal cord, the dopamine which elevates or depresses your mood, all your brain cells which enable you to think.  This is a vehicle for you consciousness.  Obviously, through OBE, one can operate his awarenes external of its own body, self proving that there may be existance after death.

i got to go back to call, but will finish later

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Gelfing says:

quote:Well with Sadam removed there won't be a need for sanction's now will there? Now do you really think without sanctions the people would have prospered? Do you? Do you think a man who put people through paper shredders, gassed children, mutilated bodies, and so much more would let his people prosper?

With wealth comes education and freedom. Don't fool yourself. Blame it on sanctions if you want but I think that is disregarding reality. Regardless the same people who cried about sanctions are crying about removing Sadam. There is NO way to remove the man without devasting his regime. Removing WoMD would not have helped his people. Freedom has never come without a price in the history of the world.

All that aside this is the last place I would like to get into a political discussion. The bottom line is a radical movement of Islam has spread. It is devastating to women, brainwashing to children, and absolute brutal to all who disagree. It is a stone age mentality where man is supreme over women and tolerance is unacceptable.

I have never seen a religious text without flaws. Christians claim the bible is perfect. Muslims claim the quran is. Neither are and if people want to believe they are then hey, have at it. They both can be used to subject humanity into slavery and be used for sick actions. Both have aspects that reek of man made rules and human thinking not a God that loves his children.

When people stop trying to look outside for God and look inside the world will be a much better place.

Just wanted to say.. now THAT was a good post...

DJMidgetMan says:

quote:I have thought the same thing many times too. But the truth is, the universe is not divine. The universe is governed by laws that are NOT divine. These laws did not make them selves. The universe did not make itself. The universe is governed by specific laws, and is inperfect order . The moon revolves around the Earth, the earth revolves around the sun, and the sun revolves around the galaxy. Perfect Order . Also, the law of intertia: an object that is in motion, continues to be in motion unless something stops it. An object that is not in motion stays motionless until something starts it. Once again the universe did not create itself, it did not plan itself out in such perfect precision, and it did not start its own movement. Its these things that lead me to believe that the universe came to be by intelligent design and that God is seperate from His creation.

what what what?! What nonsense you speak! "The universe is not divine," you say?!  Who are you to say "the truth  blah blah about the universe is... Who are you to know or judge the UNIVERSE?!?
Here is the defination of Divine from www.webster.com:

1 a : of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God or a god <divine love> b : being a deity <the divine Savior> c : directed to a deity <divine worship>
2 a : supremely good : SUPERB <the pie was divine> b : HEAVENLY, GODLIKE

You are so confusing and contradictory toward yourself...  If you are so firm with your beliefs, and you see God as flowing within and without us, and see God controling our own will, wouldn't it be safe to say that the universe is God, itself??  Now how dumb would it be to say the Universe is not divine.  That would be just like you saying God is not divine.

It is very hard to find and construct the points you try to make, as most of them are simply repeats of what you have heard and what you see to make the most sense.  You go around trying to correct people, but you have no grounds for your views..

You say the Universe is not perfect,  you say God is seperate from the universe, yet you fail to explain why.  Why would a supposed all being, not inhabit and consist of the ALL??  Do you catch my drift? SAying God is seperate from the universe is also just like saying you are seperate from the universe.

Tell me why the universe is not perfect.  It seems perfect to me, it is there, it exists, it simply IS.  The universe is a material and non-material existance/whole that lives from a natural course of action, we are dictated by a constant cause-and-affect stream of life. Everything has its reasons for happening. you say, "the moon revolves around the earth, earth revolves the sun, blah blah..." You simply point out the obvious, they happen for a REASON. Scientists could list a thousand other 'laws' or workings of our galaxy and solar system.  The universe is EXACTLY the way it is supposed to be, it is perfect.  Now if there was no such thing as positive and negative, if in did not have an out, if effects did not have their causes, ALL would have an arbitrary reality, it would be IMperfect.  That is not the case.

quote:I agree that both can be used to subject humanity to sick actions. But both do not reek of man made rules and human thinking. The only Islam that most everyone here probably knows is Al-Qaeda Islam, which is not Islam. It is barely Islam. The Islam that 99% of the Muslims of today practice is the Islam that ironically is unheard and seems to have no consideration from any non-Muslim.
I suggest that you goto a local Mosque to learn about Islam and have them answer any questions that you might have.

I'm sure if you were to ask Osama bin Laden himself, or any other Al-Queda member for that matter, they would call themselves 130% Muslim.  You see them as non-islamic because they kill and commit murder, they sabotage the freedom of innocence.  But they would probably see themselves as 'heroes,' getting rid of the 'infedels,' and wiping out more unbelievers.

Saddam Hussein has raped the minds of his people and destroyed the way of the Muslim for the most part.  I've noticed in translations of announcements, in Iraq, while we were bombing military targets, the Iraqi government was announcing to all:  We must protect our leader, We must help our president" over and over and over.  What kind of S]-[iT is that?! Shouldn't it be like: "Our leader will protect you, we will find peace, Hussein will let no harm come to your children."  Now that would probably be something you would hear here, in the States or something.

Islam is a large factor in all the chaos overwhelming humanity as a whole.  Religion, alltogethor, must be re-shaped into a more practical point of view.

[IS]

Tom says:

quote:It really is interesting to hear about Islam from the point of view of someone who is not trying to prove anything. The "just the facts" approach helps me much more than any other.

Sure this guy gives us facts about what the Quran says, but how do you know that is even correct?  

DJMidgetMan's mentally is like... "Well, I know that answer [insert mumbojumo here].. blah blah..... because the Quran says so!" IS that all you have to go by is the Quran? I find it very insulting for you to be preaching to me about "What God is" and trying to correct me and trying to say it like it is.  

I can logically see no practicality coming from the statement: God's Will controls us all."  I would love to argue with this to anyone who is up for it.  So are you telling me that God's Will is controlng all the chaos in the War and politics and stuff?  You must say that if you think a God controls you every action.  Why would this 'Allah' will two countries to fight with each other and slain one another?  The answer is simple.  We control our own fate, not some "predefined destiny."
you say:

quote:Once again, Self will comes from God. The wrongdoers will be punished for what they do. You are not separate from the will of God, because God wills you to have your 'self will' and God still has power over what you do. Wrongdoers will be punished if they abuse their 'self will'.

We obviously see different versions of GOD, but nevertheless still agree that there is only one GOD.  I see GOD as jsut as state of being. God is Order. God is Chaos. God is good and evil.  Got is both courteous and sinister, for (I believe) to see God as every thought, emotion, self, the seen and unseen all neatly packaged into a ONE.  I believe there is no right way to describe GOD for we look at it from so many different angles.  The Universe just IS.

I can't remember the specific prophet, but I remember reading a story of one of the prophets to Egypt.  "God" was supposedly speaking unto him saying to preach to the people of Egypt.  The prophet says, "Well what would I call you, what is your name?  This force says, "I have no name, I exist within and without you. I am you.  Therefor you may refer to me as "I Am."  (That just kind of goes to show anyone seeing God as I AM, would make a self affirmation of there Self.

I believe God is not a single thinking conciousness, but actually exists as all the awarenesses and consciousnesses in the entire universe.  

I refrain believing in any organized religion that teaches "This way, or the high way."  

You say Al Queda are all going to hell.  Well, I'm absolutely positive, all those suide bombers and pilots don't believe that.  They believe that they are doing good for they "God."  They kill other people .... THAT GOD HAS CREATED!!!  THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE!

When a religion gets to the point of seeing their fellow "Freedom fighters" and military leaders as prophetic and messiahic (e.g. Sudam Hussein), that's when the minds of the innocent people have become manipulated.  

Hitler is a perfect example: Me manuplited the minds of the general people, believeing they are superior in race and laws.  They saw this as "Right." You and I would probably see this as evil, care to disagree?  Hitler would execute innocent people for theyre beliefs.  You know that sounds like Islam nawadays, especially with the Al Queda extremists, they all put their beliefs and standards above all others, believing they are "right."  

::Spits::

I seriously hate any organized religion.  You must learn, adapt, develop your own morals, and not rely on what a book says.  Almost religions support the Ten Commandments.  Because everyone agrees in the sayings, it seems universally ethical.  

ok ok im done...

[one and only]

DJMidgetMan, those are some mighty big words that I would love to contradict.  I could argue the one and only God's name is Jehovah, not Allah.  Tell me I'm wrong.  How do you know what is right?  The only reason you believe what you so believe in is becuase you believe in it!  If what you state is the truth of the way of the Muslim, then all participating in the Al-Queda society are going to Hell.

You know what I say?  I say the only Will running this world is God's Will, is a bunch of horse crap.  If I so choose to throw both of my middle fingers up at the sun and say "I am seperate from the source!," that would be MY will.  Why would God do that to itself?  I say the only truth out there for mankind is that of which we create and believe in.  The only Will that is controlling the fate of the world is that of the Self.  Being what... like 6 or 7 billion humans nowadays... we all contribute equally to the order and chaos which reigns in today's era.  In another couple thousand years, giving we still even exist, there will probably be yet another dominant religion with ways of living a "righteous" life, with yet another name of God.

If God's will really did dictate what goes on in the world and in peoples' lives then that force is very confused and f@cked up!  I say this because what kind of force would bring down a Messiah and tell the world what to believe in, saying it's Truth and "The only way," then a thousand years later give a completely different way of law and belief and say, "This is your last chance, you must submit." The way I see it, Muslims are only 'submitting' the existance of ourselves and it is really they who try to impose belief onto others.  

I think the whole idea is stupid.  My dad would always hang around these Arab guys and always had these saying... I can't remember what they actually said but it translated to "Only God permitting."  I hate that!  It is YOU permitting.  Are you trying to tell me that world hunger, suicides, the Columbia trajedy, 9/11, terrorist murder, pollution, and killing in the name of religion is all this Allah's Will?!?!  There is only the Self's Will.  Period. How could anyone argue against that?

You know what I believe?! Muhammad was not even a real prophet!  While meditating in a cave somewhere in that region of the world was him.  Suddenly a spirit appears in front of Muhammad (some say it was the arch-angel Gabriel, but my research says NO) and orders him to resite documents infront of him.  Trembling, Muhammad replies "I cannot read." The entity responds harshly, "Read these laws, for you shall be the leader of the Arab people." Muhammad could not read so the spirit told of the laws of the way of the Muslim.  

You see the problem here?  REAL prophets had this supposed "GOD" speaking directly unto them.  They had special divine powers which they would try to prove these miracles.  But nothing of Muhammad is of the like.  Muslims are just a bunch of people who developed their own belief system and think they are universally correct.    Well they are not.  There is no universally correct way of living.  We must decide for ourselves what is right and what is not.

I believe the judge of this "life Test" you speak of is NOT GOD or Allah, but it is YOU.  YOU look back on what you have accomplished in your life time. YOU judge what is right.  And it is YOU who will receive back 3x what you have given. (wicca's rule of 3)  The only God I believe in is that of the Self. Non other.

Oh well, were all going to die from cancer at some point.  That is... unless we atone with our spiritual selves in time.

The war of the nations is who survives the longest

MAybe theres a bunch of invisible UFOs flying around bagdhad which only a special technology can see and Iraq is aware of it and its really the US government teeamed up with an alien race trying to intimadate saying "new naw we have this technology..." but the realy funny thing is... if suddem hussein is a Nazi teeamed with china or north korea or some excrement planning to fulfil hitler's prophecies by conquering the world and makeing it all industrialized.  MAybe theres constantly psychic was between like aliens and humans that really know what s going on in the world and is for Human evolution to live with aliens and breed with them or maybe its all a conspiracy where the higher US rankers are really nazis and want to "kill the infedels" and they made HIV to control the population. Or maybe the one and onlyu 'god' really is "Allah" and we are going to be punished for not submissing... OR maybe... im just really high

"I smoke 2 joints in time of peace... and 2 in time of war... I smoke 2 joints before I smoke 2 joints and then I smoke 2 more..."[)]

I don't know if marks or moles and birth marks have anything to do with what your talking about, but there is one thing i have always wondered.  You know people like Charles Manson and devil worshipers and stuff?  Well it's weird to see most usually an X carved into their forehead during like a ritual or something, right in the middle of the brow (the third eye).  Does anyone know what that means or signyfies?

hey that's a really good idea.. is anyone up to projecting during a peak time of the invasion?

or is what you would see just a made up reality of your imagination... you would have to be carefull to stay in the real time zone and not sway into an astral.

I said:

quote:Our dreams coorelate with just the right state of trance and the subconscious desires, memories, fears, wishes, and regrets that we embed into our subconscious (or unconscious, same thing) from the compilation of our whole life.

Just wanted to add to that statement: The reason why dreams are not so 'random' is because they are dictated by a steady train of thought, which manifests almost instantly.  You control them.


I was talking to this woman on the internet one time that claimed her sister had 'powers.'  She could astral project into other peoples' dreams.  I don't know if this is really possible, but with OBE discoveries these days, anything could be theoretical.

I was reading this article by Robert Bruce where he was saying, it is possible to 'follow' someone into a virtual reality, or dream world, if you were there right before it was being created.  I wonder if this is true for sleeping people while dreaming...?  I wonder if one can project into another's dream, even well after the dream was created, and if so, how?

Wow, that is umm.. different.  I've never seen the movie but now am motivated to watch it.  In that article, the person never states the disaster that happened in that town he described, nor does he give much grounds for his theories.  I would like to know what happened to the guy that was studying that phenomenon in the town and would also like to see more reports of similar occurances.

So does this entity of some sort help people to try and stop the impending disaster?  Then what explains all the mutalited animals and stuff?  Maybe it's a secret government test considering all the lights in the sky or whatever...   My biggest question is how an etheric/astral entity is able to materially manifest in the physical world.  Perhaps they are just illusions....

From what I understand, dreaming is a form of projection, but a much lower version of it.  It's more of a solitary virtual reality, rather than a universal plane or world, which everyone can visit.  I believe this 'dream world' exists seperate from the physical body, yet at the same time, somewhat controlled by the depth sleep, or unconsciousness, that its physical counterpart is in.  Taking place in the mind's eye of the second subtle energy body that our main energetic body creates, is where I believe this reality is created and maintained.  Though through practice and training, people describe being able to  'phase' into higher astral planes and realms from the dreaming state, being no longer a personal reality.


Frozen Heroics says:

quote:Of course, another one of the five main theories of dream origins is that they're nothing but randomly fired neurons in the brain that create allusions and sequences and flashes of images. But like tossing dice, sometimes dreams can be reproduced in other people's minds. Everyone can toss two dice and at one point, get two sevens. It's not a mathematical impossibility, or even that much of an unlikelihood, that two people can roll two sevens at the same time -- or that two people can fire off the same or similar combo of brain neurons while asleep, especially with the frequency of dreams people have in their sleep (though you don't remember them, you dream all the time when your asleep). Just compare that to two people frequently rolling dice, add in the influence of similar feelings and emotions that decide what neurons in the brain are expressed, and baddabingbaddaboom. It's not as half baked as you think, even though I'm not totally persuaded that randomly fired neurons in the brain are completely responsible for dreams. It's just interesting either way.

I don't really think that 'randomly fired neurons' is the case for the cause for dreams.  If that were the case, then the sequence of events and visuals would be so random and off from each other, the dreams would have no 'theme' or 'main idea' basis to it at all, making no sense whatsoever.

Our dreams coorelate with just the right state of trance and the subconscious desires, memories, fears, wishes, and regrets that we embed into our subconscious (or unconscious, same thing) from the compilation of our whole life.

Sorry, Frozen Heroics but the dice and 'randomly fired neurons' isn't a very accurate analogy. If my math is correct, the chances of two people rolling the same number, lets say 7, with two dice each is 1:12 (done considering combinations don't have to be exact, but do equal 7).  The chances with the random neuron theory would be like 1:billions+.  Even if they did fire off in the same sequence, the outcome would still be different.  Why would one person dream the same thing another person was, only from that neuron theory, if they had a completely different unconscious makeup from each other.

I think the answer truely lies in the empathy people can have for each other.  The closer they are in bond, the greater the psychic link they  could share.  Close physical distance (like in the same bed) could also play a very large role in this 'merged dreams' idea.     [|)]

I guess that's just my way of expressing skepticism toward a person who claims they can singley change the state of this "mess of a planet."

If I had the chance, I would kill Hussein because of all the death and misery and torture he has caused.  Him dethroned would be a big relief of the Earth's shoulders.

[all]

So your a being of light, huh?  That's funny, I thought we all were...  

If now is your time, then what are you waiting around for..?  Get over there and kill Saddam, teach North Korea a thing or two...  It sounds like your full of it [)] Prove me wrong.

So how, exactly, are you gonna 'change the world?'

Tom- can you project?

No one answered my question yet!

quote:Then what benefits (or disadvantages) come from being a "vampire?" I guess this leads to the conclusion that is the case for as long as the "vampire" meaning ever existed... Is this the truth?

Does draining energy from other human sources add up some sort of massive power or something? Is it possible for one to become physically stronger, or 'greatly more potentialy capable, from accumulated energy?'

Is there anyone in here who have had a spontaneous OBE or AP induced experienced through any other drugs?  

Anyone AP while high? shrooms? DXM? Tell of your drug experiences.

Yes, the everything surrounding the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx are very intruiging.  The three pyramids are supposed to represent the three stars of Orion's Belt in the sky.  This sort of symbology in Ancient Egypt, back to the time of "Zept Tepi," or "First Time," was known as the Duat.  It pretty much means, as above, so below.  The Duat is found everywhere; The Nile with visible milky way concentrations when looked at a certain way, the Sphinx with the Leo constellation, the "Cosmic Journey," which the deceased pharaohs would depart upon death ceremony.  All pharaohs were part of a brotherhood known as the Horus.  The idea was to go back in time to "Zep Tepi" and be reunited with all other deceased pharaohs and Osiris himself.  The idea was like this:  If one was intelligent enough to know what "time precision" was and how it worked, that would mean you could estimate what position the stars would be in, in say... 2,000 years.  The trick was to know how the stars were positioned at the time of this Zep Tepi, supposed by some, 15,000 or more years ago, back to the time of Atlantis.  They would use their mind, or knowledge as a tool for time-travel, knowing how the environment (sky) would actually look at this time period.

Yes, people say underneath the right paw of the Sphinx lies the Hall of Records, the most relic of documented history.  History and daily life of this super-evolved race is said to be in this Hall of Records.

Legend is like this: The earliest of man's civilization was in Atlantis.  Natural disaster overcame the continent (or islands) known as The Great Flood.  Parallels of a global catastrophic flood is found everywhere in religions, from the bible to the Quran, based on their own perspective interpretations.  So seven Sages along with survivors excaped alive, forming a lot of the much ancient forms of Divinity around the world...  Making, I believe, what started the Egyption, Sumer, and Aztec civilizations.    

The Sphinx will definitely be the attention of the world in grim years to come...

SiN says:

quote:Also, I don't know if this is normal: whenever I think of a part of my body, like for instance, my right foot, my right foot instantly starts to tingle! And I'm not even meditating or in trance. I can keep doing this to every other part of my body, and it will, within a few seconds, start to tingle! Does this mean anything?

There be your increased awareness of your energetic body!

When I first started working on my energy development, was when I read about Bruce's Tactile Imagining.  Early into it, it would take a whole lot of effort and focus just to get any little sensations in my major areas, i.e. my solar plexus.  Here I am now, about 3 months after first trying to consciously leave my body, no OBEs yet, but it is quite simple to get real deep vibes with less effort and less time.
I can feel the whole of my body buzzing moderately within about 10 or 15 minutes, but I still think I must reach a threshold of peaked energy and focus before I can ever willfully project.

[Majin Buu]

Then what benefits (or disadvantages) come from being a "vampire?"  I guess this leads to the conclusion that is the case for as long as the "vampire" meaning ever existed... Is this the truth?

Does draining energy from other human sources add up some sort of massive power or something? Is it possible for one to become physically stronger, or 'greatly more potentialy capable, from accumulated energy?'

You know, Dragonball Z is like a really exaggerated version of this whole energy idea.  Despite all the agruments in the Energy Development section, I think DBZ definately needs some credit.  After all, they have always stated real methods of energy raising and "psi ball" techniques, with also telekinasis and clairvoyant action scenes.

I personally have never witnessed telekinesis or the like up close, nor on TV, but definately hear a LOT about it.

Try to picture all the energy gathered up from thousands of thousands of planets and all life forms of them.... That would be an unfathomably massive and uncomprehendable total of energy!  Kind of like Majin Buu and from his 'quest of destruction.'  That would be awesome to see a sick anime--sort of like DBZ--but based on the "astral" or something.

So are vampires like real people that use some sort of mind power to consume energy at waking state (like I am right now) OR are they really astral projectors making them invisible to the untrained eye and draining energy from in the real-time-zone?  What benefit do other individuals' energy have on vampires?

[So are there any astral vampires in here?]

Actually, SiN, I mean closet as a figure of speech.  Like you know how people say "Oh yeah that guy's gay, but he hasn't come out of the closet yet."  Meaning closet people do whatever, secretly.

So are there any astral vampires in here?

Has anyone ever tried DXM (dextromethorphan)?  I've read reports where people have spontaneous OBE and see aliens and stuff...