Messages

take a 3-4 hour nap before practicing.

also, get this book

http://research.obe4u.com/practical-guidebook/

if u aleady got vibrations ull b projectin within days or earlier.

What are you afraid of?  What do you think is going to happen to you?

i dunno

I got PTSD

my fear is out of control

If you get scared and freak out... 99 times out of 100 you'll come back to the this physical focus.
You don't need to ever worry about not getting back.  You'll be frustrated more often than not with how short your projections will be.

thats exactly what happens. which is y im trying not to freak out

im frustrated at how short my obes last thanx 2 fear...

but have u ever got scared n freaked out when u project so far away from earth where all u c is stars thinking 'what if i cant get back into my body?'

naps are the KEY in APing, and LDing. and that is exactly how I have most of my OBEs now. practice with bineurals after 3-4 hours of sleep, then go back to bed. you dont gotta meditate just for 6 mins. it could be longer, say 30 mins. you can also stay up, eat, etc.. drinking water helps too (think of it as fuel for astral travel). you can stay up 1-2 hours, even longer before going to bed. once you had a nap, your soul is more connected to the other world(s) since it already traveled a bit. so it helps going back there consciously...

anyone has this problem?

Many of my OBEs go like this. I get into the vibrational stage OR straight go into a trance state where my body is already put under the paralysis (basically skips the vibrations), and then I CANNOT SEE! most times its pitch black, but this morning it was greyish white. I have seen maybe about 5%, if that. saw my astral hands and then nothing. had to feel my way through the room, before waking myself up multiple times cuz i get freaked out of thinking "what's there? is something gonna hurt me?" its kinda freaky. i am exploring by touch but its like being in a forest with eyes closed, dont you think? maybe not as bad since im in the astral and nothing can hurt me but still. its spookyish.

part of it is my fear. i am scared of having vivid obes say flying over earth. i mean, for all of you guys out there who never had OBEs and think that 'OH ITS SO AMAZING, YOU ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THEM' think about it for a second. you go up in space in a spaceship and then someone pushes you out of the craft. would you be scared? now imagine having an OBE as clear as being out there in space. would you be scared? bonk yes! you'd be scared shitlessly of being physically damaged. so, even if you know youre astral traveling, the realness of the experience could be kinda overwhelming.

so, i dont know what to do. and i dont know how to get over my fear of these things either. anyone can relate, had similar experiences, know how to overcome them?

thanks.

first and foremost, you should try your hardest to achieve a Lucid Dream. it is much easier to achieve than an OBE. 2nd, you should practice relaxing your body every night before going to sleep to prepare your body for travel.

I had my first LD THAN an OBE.

and on another note. if you haven't had a sleep paralysis, that could be a reason why you cant have OBEs. you should have a few SPs before you can Astral Travel. just my own experience. and remember, I had a SP a few times which were bonking scary let me tell you. than 1 year later, I had my first LD, then an OBE. so it may take you a while. but keep think about it, visualize it, and send out your thoughts on what it's like to Astral Travel. if you keep sending out wonder and thirst for OBEing, at some point the universe will answer your question and curiosity.