Thank you for the reply. I will try it tonight when I do it. Though, What do I do when I enter that state? Just intend to AP then wait abd wait?

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Quote from: desert-rat on April 22, 2014, 13:57:04
I read in this book , to visit the lower astral realms will make one bad , mad or dead , I dont think this is such a good idea .
Quote from: Lostlight2013 on April 22, 2014, 09:55:04
Hey guys, well i really have no other way to title this one besides the title i gave it. Reason being is i've NEVER had an experience quite like this. It's hard to describe but really the only way i CAN describe it is i had a projection where i was not only conscious in the Astral but in the Physical as well, both at the same time. Really the best way to share this experience is to give a play by play so that's what i'm gonna TRY and do, well without further ado!
<Laid down in bed closed my eyes> Hmmm i'm sinking into sleep rather fast! This is good, i feel fully conscious. <Body begins to numb> Ahh, my mind is unusually still tonight! Perfect, focus on my intention. <Vibrations begin> Ahhhh here we go perfect! <Faces and figures start making their appearence> Don't care....focus.... <Instantly i find myself floating besides the Earth> Annnnd i'm out, but not where i want to be, this is too....physical....i need to raise my vibration <i Notice i can feel my bed against my back> Interesting! <Awareness shifts back to the body> Hmmm boring, i'm back in my body, shift back out. <Awareness shifts back into Astral back into space> That's better, now where was i? That's right, shift deeper.
Here's where things get a bit weird. i was completely conscious in both the physical and astral the entire experience...matter of fact, i first laid down at 10 13...the experience didnt end until 10 58. But here's the aggravating part. SO i go about my projection, consciously make decisions and do things of my own accord then i decide i better get back (for what i'm not sure, i only remember making the decision and actually shifting back), i consciously shift my awareness back into my body annnnnnnnnnnd GONE. Everything from the Astral Experience was gone BUT every memory from the physical still remained INTACT! I remember everything that happened from the physical side of the experience but i couldnt even begin to tell you what happened in the Astral BUT while i was in the Astral everything from my physical experiences and my Astral were crystal clear.
Now it would be one thing if i was a bit hazy from the experience but i can remember being incredibly conscious on BOTH sides. It's just when i returned to the physical my astral memory dumped almost completely (Except for the beginning, returning to my body and small "Still picture" memories i couldn't even begin to dissect myself much less explain them.) It was like as soon as i began to shift back into physical reality (Because i remember making the conscious decision to shift and actually shifting back in) the memories were gone. I dont know, i'm bummed yet intrigued at the same time. It was a new experience for me and i guess really that's all that counts right? Anyone ever have this happen to them? I look forward to your input!!
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 21, 2014, 21:03:46
... -,- There's a point at which it's best just to stop reading, and experience for yourself. The ONLY time this "silver cord" is ever even going to exist, is if you go into the astral thinking it exists. There's no cord for me, and I'm sure there are others in similar situations as me. If you go into the astral thinking that your spirit and physical body are connected by some "cord" and you will snap back into the physical planes as soon as it's broken, you're just going to limit yourself.
Quote from: Lionheart on April 21, 2014, 17:38:51
Thank You for your kind words Lily!
We all try to give you the info and tools needed to achieve NP exploration for yourself. But in the need, you are the one that has to learn how to ALLOW it to happen. This takes practice, patience and perseverance, but also courage, which you have showed greatly here.
Keep absorbing all this info like a sponge. But don't necessarily get hung up on the what's happening until you make your own observations first. A lot of what you read in AP books and the AP videos is based on the person's personal perception of what is going on. Also there are people form the school of thought that we need to climb out of the body and because of this, they teach based on this idea. Then there are others that feel it is a simple shift and once again base their technique accordingly. In the end, it doesn't matter which method/technique you use, as long as it works for you. You will find, as I am many others have, that you will take a number of things and kind of meld them into one technique that is more tailor made for you personally.
I, myself, have never seen a "silver cord" or any cord for that matter, but I haven't looked for one either. So, I can never really share that experience that so many others have had. I have had experiences where I felt like I was being "slinkied" (new word, lol) or Yo-Yoed up and down, then back into my body though.
Keep doing what you are doing. We could use you as a "Poster Child" for success, lol.Your information will help many others in your age group experience the wonders of NP exploration. You also seem to have a very mature mind for a 15 year old. That's always a good thing as well!
Quote from: Volgerle on April 21, 2014, 15:39:33
That's a great explanation that makes perfect sense to me. It also fits the expression astral projection so well. A projector projects light (onto a screen, etc.) just like we do project our mind (into the astral world). If the light is "cut" somehow what really happens is that actually the projector (which is us) ceased to 'project' the mind and boom! ... you're back in your body.
Quote from: Lionheart on March 07, 2014, 17:26:33
I'm glad you didn't get frustrated Suzy.
Meditating is good for you anyways. Even if you don't AP, you still get some quality "me time"!
Quote from: Selene on April 20, 2014, 21:10:12
Hello, everyone!
I'm so glad there's a forum out there so we're able to connect from all around the world and share our experiences about a topic that is not that public, at least in my surroundings...
I'm Selene, I'm from Spain, and I'm almost forty.
From as far as I can remember I always had an interest and an instinctive knowledge of the spiritual world. Now and then, I've had premonitory dreams or dreams where I spoke with people about things that I didn't know about and then discovered that the information was true.
The last one was in October, I dreamt that I visited an old friend that I hadn't seen for years, he was living in his house with a roommate because they were divorcing with his wife, so one week one lived in the house with the kids and the other week the other. I didn't expect it to be more than a dream because it was such a solid marriage, but a month ago I had a call from them, they told me they were just in the same situation that what he was describing in my dream, since one year.
These dreams were like little gifts to me, that proved that we were more than flesh, but it never came to my mind that I could have any control over them...
Another thing that has been important to me is that I've always seen a light when I go to sleep, a warm, soothing and loving light and somehow it's as if I get information from it but nothing passes by my neocortex, kind of difficult to explain, could stay there for ever, but it never goes further, so it was comforting but that's all, until...I lost it.
There came a moment, that little by little I started to doubt my foundations: I landed in a materialist world, where God has no place, where people don't think much about morals, and were earning a living is tough, where we compare with each other constantly and the more, the better.
So I started to doubt myself, to think that perhaps it would have been better to read books of economy than of psychology. Maybe my spirituality was a way to escape a certain inadaptation to society like religions were myths that helped people escape the anxiety of an unpredictable world.
Then in September, I found myself in a situation that shook my world, not too dramatic, thanks God, no diseases, no
accidents, no divorces...but it was big enough, that I had to give it a sense in my life, where there some invisible energies that brought me to that situation, as I felt it was or was it just a random bad combination of circumstances?
I had to know, and how do you prove that there is a spirit and an ulterior sense to all our existence? I though about the out of body experiences, if I could have one, then I could prove to myself it wasn't a delusion.
The first book I read was from William Buhlman, then I saw a video from Thomas Campbell, it surprised me so much. I expected the typical New Age stuff, but I found serious men that were talking as much to my right hemisphere as to my left. And that was the starting shot, I couldn't stop reading and gathering information...there was so much valuable writings out there, how had I been wasting my life, if that was what I always had been craving to know, what my soul was asking for...
Now that I have made a foundation, it's time to practice.
Since I started this, I've had some OBE's but never conscious, always after falling asleep, which is fine to me, because I think that my mind doesn't accept that I could have a conscious OBE and needs its time to process.
Anyway, it's the beginning of a lifetime adventure and I'm glad to be able to share it here.
That's been a hell of an introduction, I hope I didn't do a lot of misspellings and I would love to read any comments about your impressions!
Selene
Quote from: Enigmatik on April 21, 2014, 03:53:26
In the experience's I have had, I do just what you are doing, end up falling asleep then enter consciousness again when vibrations kick in. Then get out of body. However, most of the time I end up going to sleep for like 5 hours and then wake up. I usually drink a little caffeine and check the forums etc. Then I repeat the process. This gets me out almost 90% of the time. I think for a conscious oobe you have to keep your mind awake. I have a friend who does this and he says the best time to do this is when you are not sleepy at all. And it might require you not to lay in bed. This is hard and I'm trying to do this as well. But if you haven't tried yet, like I said, sleep like 4 hours then wake up. Read the forums or whatnot, set your intentions, and if you are lucky you will go from dreaming to a oobe! Good luck, hope this helps.
Quote from: Atticus97 on February 23, 2014, 11:03:28
I've been trying to astral project for a few nights now, but to no avail. I'm very relaxed, focused on my breathing, I may feel VERY small vibrations in my hands or feet, but that's it so I don't know if I can call them 'vibrations'. Most of my body otherwise, is still numb, however I can still willingly move it.
I know I shouldn't be expecting the vibrational state to happen, but that leads to sleep paralysis which is the only way for beginners to experience astral projection. I've also tried listening to some binaural beats, and have fallen asleep three times.
I also frequently get a faster heartbeat, it's not due to fear or panic, but it keeps going back and forth from subtle minor vibrations or to nothing at all. I know about the various techniques, but they're practically useless to me until I haven't entered sleep paralysis. Last night, I tried repeating affirmations (Mind awake, body asleep) while listening to binaural beats and focusing on each breath, to which I unfortunately fell asleep.
Any tips?
Quote from: soarin12 on April 21, 2014, 13:56:34
Knocks on the wall used to be very common for me when I entered SP. They were really loud and startling, and it was very hard to stay in the trance. It's just another fear test I guess, so just try to roll with it. After awhile they should go away.
Quote from: Riften77 on April 20, 2014, 20:57:53
Can anyone share some different ideas, suggestions and tips to help keep your mind awake while your body falls asleep? I have been trying to get out of body for over a year now and it's currently my understanding that basically, no matter what you do, in order to get out of body, you mind has to stay awake. Thanks!
Quote from: kuurt on April 20, 2014, 20:20:45
When I say I'm afraid of the unknown, I don't mean that that I'm afraid of the astral plane or of being out of my body. I have experienced that enough times through the dream or sleep state to know that ultimately there is nothing to be afraid of. I don't like heights or being up high. I would never fly in a plane. But, I have flown around in my astral body a few times and I don't have that fear there because I know that I don't have my physical body to worry about and I know I can't be hurt. And if I were to encounter an evil entity or something I could just think about being somewhere else like my body and I'm gone. To me the experience is just like a dream. In fact, I figure some dreams, if not all of them may very well be experiences on the astral plane. I feel like it's the moment of exiting and the build up to that which is what is scary to me because I've never consciously been though that process. I just hear what sounds like strong wind and my heart starts beating really fast and it's pretty hard to relax into that and just go with it.
Just listen to how Lionheart described one of his or her experiences: "I have been dragged out of my bed by my ankles and spun/twisted like a top through my ceiling". My God that sounds horrible. I think it's the fact that we have no control over the experience that scares me. It's like I'm being powerlessly whisked up in a tornado and I'm just suppose to somehow relax into that.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 20, 2014, 20:16:39
If it was this simple, I think it would have already been done by now. But regardless, not everyone gets these vibrations. Some people have a "smooth transition" from the physical to the astral. So it would obviously not work for everyone anyway.