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Mobius --

Hey, if you guys enjoyed the gun discussion so much, why did you go away?  -- Just kidding.  

Gosh, the inputs seem a lot more tolerant of "conspiritorial" ideas than when I last was able to view the buzz.  I was amazed to hear so many callers getting through on the monopolistic, bottle-necked, Coast-To-Coast overnight radio talk show ( www.artbell.com ) with "shocking" and "disturbing" ideas about government complicity in this latest novelistic horror movie, the "One-Shot-One-Kill" sniper murderer.

Is it possible to manufacture a human "lethal weapon"?  Whether it was done at the sponsorship of the firearms manufacturers, Al Caida, Iraqi Republican Guard (the last two heavily determined by the CIA), or an Hegelian scam to FURTHER the strictures of an ALREADY gun-controlled DC; or maybe just an incredibly frosty and focused, self-made, narcissistic S.O.B. stumbling into the agendas of those entities...it seems really to be cutting into the psyches of many many folks.  The demographic cross-section of victims is remarkable.  The location in the "DC area" where the national government is debating about war with Iraq at this particular time: again, remarkable.  I heard the radio host George Noory comment about the "message" in the victim statistics so far: 9 killed, 2 wounded seriously -- "9-1-1."  This reminds me of the "DC area" murder investigation of Shandra Levi's death last year before September one-one.  There's still no resolution to that crime -- even a scapegoat.  Jean-Benet Ramsey's murder case is still unsolved too.  IF THIS ISN'T PSY-OPS, THEIR TAKING NOTES LIKE CRAZY.

XTC user --

Stop using XTC -- :')

Stewart Swerdlow wrote a book called The Healer's Handbook which attributes bipolar disorder to a relatively underactive pineal gland.  The brain of the bipolar experiencer is ALL into the right lobe, or ALL into the left at any given time.  Stewart recommends saturating the sufferer with ROYAL BLUE color (NOT navy blue or indigo), and using centering images such as the point surrounded by a circle, a cross, ankh, "T", and angle touching a line.

I am persuaded that MANY mental illnesses are exacerbated by over-estrogenation.  Estrogen (complex) is one of our master hormones.  Plastics (which are everywhere), solvents and industrial toxins (which are everywhere), imitate ESTROGEN in the body.  It should be opposed with natural PROGESTERONE.  Dermal cremes containing Mexican yam, applied through the skin can oppose this "Xeno-estrogen" pollution.  A very good product is made by the Canadian MATOL group.  Search "MATOL" or "Dr. John Lee" on the web.

I enjoy using "Real Salt" or "Celtic Sea Salt" with all the electro-essential trace minerals for the fragile fabric of living enzymes in the system.

"Frodo, to be a ring bearer is to be alone!"

"If someone says they know, you may be sure they do not know."
                                                                    -- J. Krishnamurti

If someone is REALLY asking questions, and REALLY wants to know, that's the teacher/student/friend to travel with.

It seems that we do have some reservations about dedicating a session to the mirror practice.  It would mean so much to us.  I thought of beginning by taking just 15 or 20 minutes a day -- expecting nothing really.

I was reading in a book by Mark Harris called AURAS -- SEE THEM IN ONLY 60 SECONDS.  He includes his experiences with scrying, though he does not call it that.

<< ...We paired off and stared at each other's forehead, or third eye, chakra.  We also stared into a mirror at our own third eye.  Shapes changed, faces distorted, animals or old people appeared.  It was quite disconcerting at first, but having a partner to share in the ordeal helped a lot [we're not fearful].  The face can even vanish if you stare long enough.  We learned how to keep our eyes open for several minutes at a time, never once blinking.  During that time, the face I stared at -- all the while staring just at the forehead -- took on a kaleidoscopic panorama of people both younger and older, foreign, or even alien. >>

Blue Light --

We're going to be setting aside some time this week to try "the theatre of the mind."  Yes, communication through this means could be very powerful.  To possibly sidestep the thin veil of ego and vanity -- ah.

Blue Light Mystic

Thank you so much for the encouraging words.  As Laurie Campbell told us, there is scant current information about this subject.  Do you know of John Edward?  Laurie said that they have a psychomanteum room with two lounge chairs at the U. or Arizona facilities.  They were all taking turns and Laurie invited John to be next.  He did not want to go in.  "Why?" she asked.  "Go in there with a bunch of dead people?" he exclaimed.  She laughed.  He did go in.

We'll put up a large quilt as a temporary drape.  

Blessings indeed -- we are just beginning to discover the ways all around us.

We move closer.  We bought a nice bevel-edged mirror (from Lowe's) which we positioned on a wall lateral to the foot of our bed.  We now have to install a light-blocking drape over our window.

We had a 2-hour telephone reading with Laurie Campbell ( www.lauriecampbell.com ) which illustrated how involved our son's spirit is in remaining in touch with his family and friends.  We are recording MANY signs of rather marvelous ingenuity.  Laurie said that he is "very excited" and not at all alone where he is.

Mark Smith describes the same technique that Laurie does in his book AURAS -- SEE THEM IN 60 SECONDS, a very exuberant book.  It involves gazing at the THIRD EYE of a partner or your mirror reflection.  Do not be dismayed at the changes, but learn to "close down the energy at Laurie's website.  She is a friend of John Edward and the Director of the special project at the University of Arizona documenting the reality of the After Life.

For what it is worth, I'll give BIG points to the anti-gunners for continuing the "debate" ( though I'm partial to the "discussion" format myself -- Yosemite Sam yahoo that I guess I am).  Eventually the anti-gunners realize that they needn't expend the energy and time arguing for guns being banned from the possession of ordinary citizens/subjects.  Caesar's on your side.  Caesar dearly wishes to see all the slaves and plebs and conquered barbarians utterly without accountable weapons.  All you need do is relax on the couch with a drink and the waltz will soon be at an end: Caesar alone will have the guns -- not even the criminals will be armed because all of their ilk will have been hired into the ranks, carrying arms for the Emperor.  "ALL firearms should be illegal," writes Adrian.  Do you really believe that Caesar's will ever cast away Caesar's arms?

An internet Bible concordance such as www.bible gateway.com still renders that Commandment as "Thou shalt not murder."

I had not purchased any firearms for my immediate family until the last few years because my ancestors and family seniors had collected a stock of interesting guns -- heirlooms.  I do not hunt.  All those generations of Presbyterian folks managed to avoid the bloody accidents and traumatic incidents that have been called inevitable by some posts here.  What motivated me to invest in weapons was, strangely, founded from out of the same sort of recent events which switched Adrian and others FROM guns.  I mentioned professors D. C. Hammond, Daniel Brown, and A. W. Scheflin before.  They are peer review level experts in areas of mind control.  I mentioned the hefty price of their texts to suggest how ordinarily inaccessible an overview of this issue is for lay citizens.  Less expensive sources include TRANCEformation of AMERICA by Cathy O'Brien, also Arizona Wilder, Cisco Wheeler, Srewart Swerdlow, and Brice Taylor (all searchable on the net).

These are Dr. Hammond's words in an interview --

<< What they basically do is they get a child and they start this, in basic forms, it appears, by about two and a half after the child's already dissociative.  They'll make him dissociative not only through abuse, like sexual abuse, but also things like putting a mousetrap on their fingers and teaching the parents, "You do not go in until the child stops crying.  "Only then do you remove it."  They start in rudimentary forms at about two and a half and kick into high gear, it appears, at around six or six and a half, continue through adolescence with periodic reinforcements in adulthood.  Basically in the programing the child will be put in a gurney.  They will have an IV in one hand or arm.  They'll be strapped down, typically naked.  There'll be wires attached to their head to monitor electroencephalograph patterns.  They will see a pulsing light, most often described as red, occasionally white or blue.  They'll be given, most commonly I believe, Demerol.  Sometimes it'll be other drugs as well depending on the kind of programing.  They have it, I think, down to a science where they've learned you give so much every twenty-five minutes until the programming is done.  They then will describe a pain on one ear, their right ear generally, where it appears a needle has been placed, and they hear weird , disorienting sounds in that ear while they see phtic stimulation to drive the brain into a pattern with a pulsing light at a certain frequency not unlike the goggles that are now available through Sharper Image and some of those kinds of stores.  Then, after a suitable period when they're in a certain brainwave state, they will begin programming, programming oriented to SELF-DESTRUCTION and DEBASEMENT [my emphasis] of the person.  In a patient at this point in time about eight years old who has gone through a great deal early programming taking place on a military installation.  That's not uncommon. >>

If the killers at Columbine High School (staging their massacre at the same time as the NRA's convention in nearby Denver, if you'll remember), and the shooters in Scotland and Australia were NOT mind control subjects, the effects they caused could hardly have been bested by such deeply evil mechanisms.

Look up "sword" at biblegateway and observe that angels wield them most often.  The symbology for Jesus' use of "sword" in the NEW TESTAMENT seems to go to " WORD OF GOD."  It divides and decides.  Peter is often described as behind the curve in understanding the Holy importance of events.  When Jesus was transformed in the meeting with Moses and Elisha, Peter begged to build shelters for all these beloved ones, believing that they would dwell forever in this blissfull company.  He did not realize that These were conferring about the Act to come back in the dark density.  Jesus HAD evidently instructed his band to carry swords in the manner of the Patriarchs.  The event at the garden, however, was an IMMENSE MOMENT.  Jesus was becoming the WORD manifest.  An earthly sword was inappropriate at such time.  The sword could not be allowed to dominate over the WORD/SWORD cleaving and defining Destiny at that Holy Moment.  

Bible Gateway reveals how many instances the scriptures say: "FEAR NOT."  Do not be afraid.

What recently convicted me as a believing Christian turned on the words of a simple, believing man: "God has always worked through people and things."  Not abstractions.  Not "movements."  Ordinary, individual souls.  "Caesar" is a "god" -- a corrupting abstaction as such.  Julius, on the other hand, could have been an OK bloke, potentially.  Julius ("Groucho") Marks.

Visit Idaho County, Idaho sometime.  You can see folks pushing baskets at supermarkets with pistols on their hips -- very mellow vibes.        

   

Adrian --
Very well put.  I think you have stated your position very clearly.
From your narrative, the event in Scotland was massively pivotal to your present stance on the private ownership of firearms.  Similarly, folks in Australia have been stunned and traumatized by the shooting incident there.  Our son was not shot.  He died of an accident, but we live every day with that trauma of his passing.  That trauma.

Americans' great trauma in recent history (which one?!) is pivotal around the assassination of Jack Kennedy.  The Warren Commission Report is like wallpaper for most Americans' packaging in memory of that event.  It is not believed -- but there it is.

Privately, the actor/director Mel Gibson is said to have much to say about these subjects.  His father, I've heard, is quite a researcher in these "crazy" areas of study.  Mel made a chilling thriller "Conspiracy Theory" discussing the creation of assassins via MK (mind control) Ultra.  Before dismissing the concept, consider the "bible" of hypnotherapy edited by Dr. D. Corydon Hammond, HANDBOOK OF HYPNOTIC SUGGESTIONS AND METAPHORS (available on Amazon for just $70).  And another "bible" by Dr. Daniel Brown (Harvard Medical School), Alan Scheflin (professor of law, Santa Clara University), with Dr. Hammond: MEMORY, TRAUMA TREATMENT, AND THE LAW ($100).  

These shooters in Scotland and Australia FIT a profile for mind-controlled actors.  What would be the aim?  Instilling a revulsion for all guns -- supporting total gun forfeiture (except for the authorities' guns always).  Given that this Scottish event could have such a stunning effect on so many in the Isles, what's so crazy about taking another look -- as many Americans did and do after the shooting of a president?

I respect those such as Englishman David Icke who understand about the Tavistock and CIA MK operations, but nevertheless conscientiously REJECT gun ownership for themselves.  I respect those who would work to change others' consciousness about the "error" of gun ownership, such as the Quakers.  But I think that it is conscientiously in error to COMPELL decent, private citizens to allow their guns to be siezed without their consent.  

What if the "government" itself has fostered crimes against children and civilians?  What dereliction of all judgment would it be to have that government be the sole possessor of real weapons?

Criminals are not macho arms race types.  They are opportunists, clever or stupid.  They are guilty and therefore vulnerable to being intimidated away from the righteous stance.  (This was the concept behind duels and trials by combat at one time.)

Britain is an island.  The reasoning seems to be that if only firearms could be forbidden within its shores, like fish in a barrel, the supply could be choked out in time.  It seems to me to be the attitude Tolkien described for the "Shire" Hobbits in his tales of Middle Earth.  Adventuring was anti-social to proper Hobbits, but Bilbo equipped himself with "Sting," an Elven dagger, when he found himself on the road.  The Hobbits at home had no conception of the evils and dangers in the larger world bearing down upon them.  It was left then to a small group of Hobbits -- to one, really.  "Show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy."

PeacefulWarrior --

I'll check-out the book, but the author's information on the UK may be a bit out of date.  It's most direct to just do an internet search on "britain violent crime" and "australia violent crime."  PLENTY there!

General-Army

We are not to be afraid of "high strangeness," which I prefer as a term other  than "paranormal."  Rods ARE normal -- just not usually seen because of their velocity.  They seem playful following those cave divers.  Native Americans knew of them and recorded them in petroglyphs, apparently.

I am reading a book called FINDING GOD IN THE LORD OF THE RINGS.  It has a lot to say about fear.  I hadn't realized how many times and ways the BIBLE, for example, says "FEAR NOT."  It's interesting to go to Bible Gateway and punch in "fear."  Fear is a prybar for negs.  Caution is one thing -- great attention and preparedness -- but abject terror is a trick of light and sound.

Just for the record, I regard the NRA as a shill organization -- an extra hynotic for sleepy gun rights pedestrians.  The "powerful" NRA lobby has presided over the sure and incremental erosion of gun rights over the decades.  

I am deeply ashamed about many of the things "my" government and its corporate masters have and ARE doing in this density.  As one example, American manufacturers sell thousands (and the government GIVES thousands) of electric "cattle prod" devices to regimes they KNOW employ these things for torture.  This and other regimes (I'd call them all that instead of gracing them with the title of "governments").  The UK regime is no exception.  

Drop back about 800 years.  England's regime then did a very risky and patently bone-headed thing, in the opinion of the other crime bosses on the Continent: England PERMITTED and PROMOTED the unrestricted implement manufacture, and manditory weekly practice of longbow shooting.  This gave English armies quite a military advantage.  Of course it fostered along with it a Robin Hood and Magna Carta-like vision of individual liberty.  England evolved differently than the other nations, with a uniquely robust passion for justice, trial by jury, codified common law, a Constituion of rights, etc.  Now the UK seems to be well on its way toward rolling up this ancient and brilliant legacy.  BUT SO IS THE U.S. --  Australia and Canada too!

Clandestino --

"...There are not many governments that permit their citizens to carry handguns."

It would perhaps be more correct to use the term "subjects" instead of "citizens" in the sense of that sentence -- "THEIR citizens."  Ah but if the "government" is a democracy....  It has been said that a pure democracy is two wolves and a sheep VOTING on what's for dinner.  The Nazis held pretty honest plebiscites that yielded 99.5% majorities for...the Nazis.  A constutional republic has safeguards built in for the express protection of the minority and individual.          

The late Eric Hoffer (author of THE TRUE BELIEVER and THE ORDEAL OF CHANGE -- used as texts in universities everywhere) did not mean that folks who advocate (and perhaps practice) non-violence are indeed cowards.  His point was that the unsophisticated person in the street could hardly tell the PRACTICAL difference between the two, operationally.  The campaigns by Mohandas Gandhi and Martin (Michael) L. King were organized and informed by military principles.  When Gandhi's supporters urged him to tell Indians NOT to carry arms for the British Empire during WWII, he rejected the idea passionately, saying that it would be a dirty, unfair trick.  In fact, Gandhi admitted with some humor that he was Britain's biggest recruiting sergeant.

Gandhi was for "non-cooperation" -- a distinction from "non-violence."  He would choose, as a sovereign soul, NOT to help his oppressors by playing any of their games -- including the use of violence.

The WTO protestors were non-violent, but provocateurs were inserted into the scenes -- recorded by TV.  Police made mass arrests (not the provacateurs, however).  This is how it's done now in the Brave New World.

I RESPECT GANDHI'S WAY.  HE WAS GRATEFUL THAT THE SITUATION OF THE JEWS UNDER THE NAZIS WAS NOT HIS DIRECT RESPONSBILITY.  What Gandhi asked of his warriors was a far harder and more comprhensive means of campaigning than armed revolt.  Britain ate India like an elephant, one piece at a time.  Gandhi had to unite it to take it back.  For this he had to resurrect an over-arching vision and morality.  In fact, he selected the ancient Buddhist king Asoka as a model.

I understand and accept that even righteous shootings ARE scarring and traumatic.  The military knows this too.  It was estimated that the infantry in WWII contained only about 30% of personnel willing to actually kill another human being.  Programs of training and conditioning were designed to increase that score.  Drugs, etc. were tried in Vietnam.  By the 90's virtual video trainers and such were introduced (yes, exactly the same programs as in the violent role-playing games).  Kill capable soldiers were now well over 80% in the ranks.  

Police are recruiting cadets from the ranks of young military vets.  These people have never been adult civilians.  Basic training impresses upon them that civilians are all soft, degenerate, criminal -- disposable.  U. S. courts have decreed that police shooters are above the laws applicable to ordinary citizens (subjects).  American and non-American military are being used in police activities in the U. S.  In 1994, criminal law majors were asked whether they would indeed fire on American civilians if ordered.  70% responded negatively.  Promotions and high advancements have only been given to the 30% who answered "yes."

Americans are seeing the extinction of their republic.  The fact that the elephant-eaters who are doing this REALLY don't like the Second Ammendment in particular is enough for me to acquire a weapon or two while I still can.  Global feudalism is the goal of these guys.  "Useless eaters" is the term they have for us.        

Many of us posted information about this debate at PeacefulWarrior's "THIS MAKES ME SAD" thread.  I posted a website about Virgin, Utah and Kennesaw, Georgia there: two communities who enacted local ordinances REQUIRING citizens to have guns in each household.  Virgin's URL is www.virginutah.com .  If you go to search "Kennesaw, Georgia," you'll encounter PAGES of business sites; the issue of "the ordinance' is just not a big deal.  (Try www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms .)  The fact that since 1983 when the ordinance was inacted as a counter to an OPPOSITE ordinance in Indiana, I believe (no one in Kennesaw enforces the "requirement" to own arms, by the way), businesses and real estate buyers from nearby Atlanta have swelled the census and economic base of Kennesaw steadily, and the violent crime rate is still very nearly nil.

TLC aired a program about martial arts the other night.  One commentator observed that most people who practice these arts will die peacefully in their beds without ever having to call upon their fighting facilities once.  Why develope them, therefore?  Many reasons.  One departed master had stated that he studies fighting in order that he would not have to fight.

"Empty handed" martial arts was developed because peasants in feudal societies were forbidden ownership of swords, specifically.  Every sword-carrying samurai in feudal Japan had the "007" licence to kill.  If a peasant even smelled as if they would be defiant, the head was severed by one of those heavy, razor sharp wonders of bladecraft.  The peasants had to become transcendently effective with bare hands, feet, or with farm tools -- not that they could be realistically effective against the consummate swordsman -- yet it kept alive the sovereign, God-given communion of immortal spirit.

The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion made use of the few revolvers they found hidden away.  Hitler, as EVERY mass-murdering dictator, was BIG on gun confiscation.  It's just a fact.  

I think that it is a reasonable proposition to assert that the personal firearm IS the modern equivalent of the sword.  William Holden once appeared on the Johnny Carson TV talk show.  He related that he had travelled all over Africa without a gun, but walking the streets of New York, he carried.  No one could actually SEE the pistol, but the subtle message of carriage and presence "carried" to would-be predators.

This is a language of personal commitment.  The "longshoreman philosopher" Eric Hoffer commented about the politically correct and stylish message that one should be "non-violent."  To the ordinaryJoe, such "correct" behavior is an abstraction, and INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM COWARDICE.  Cowardice is contagious: it has a way of spreading like a clammy fog.

We're talking HERE about a collective moral effect.  There are those who fear the recoil of a magnum firearm, for example.  It is reported that hefty, male 45-year-olds are dismayed by the report of, say, a .44 magnum; while little 6-year-old girls are delighted with the target shooting experience.

Gandhi said that he would shoot a rapist attacking a woman, for example.  Jesus said (Matthew 10): "I did not come to bring peace but a sword."  Jesus said (Luke 22): "If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

OF COURSE the "double-edged sword" is PROVERBIAL.  DUALITY.  MORAL CHOICE -- not really a piece of technology such as a sword or gun -- but in the soul.  It cannot be deferred to another.  

Thoreau speculated in WALDEN about the derivation of the English word "community."  Did it come from Latin "co - munitio" (forgive spelling), meaning armed together, etc.; or did it derive from "communion," shared meal...sharing in common...?  Duality.

Gun manufacturers are under attack by government to record and track all purchasers -- to install remote control disabling technology, etc.  Lawful gun dealers are being hounded out of business.  THIS is the trend.  Why?

One serious question:

if the ordinary, law-abiding, sovereign, adult citizen is forbidden ownership of firearms; who will be left in total ownership?  Forget the criminal for a moment.  Who does that leave?

One serious question:

if the ordinary, law-abiding, sovereign, adult citizen is forbidden ownership of firearms; who will be left in total ownership?  Forget the criminal for a moment.  Who does that leave?

It had been on my mind to post something about rods before going out of town a few weeks ago.  I see I must have actually done so at the last moment, among many other things.  SORRY FOR NOT CHECKING BACK PROMPTLY.  This is an interesting topic, "rods."  Here's a link with more information and clips: www.roswellrods.com .  I would be interested in locating the scene in "Braveheart" where the rod makes a brief appearance.  I shall see if Jose Escamilla will respond with some more specifics, if he hasn't done so by now somewhere on his links.

I had heard about the possible apparition of a 10 year old boy in the movie "Three Men and a Baby."  He appears by a window in a scene in the apartment with Ted Dansen and Celeste Holm (playing Dansen's mother).  It had been discounted formerly as the child of a stage technician, but the former owners of the apartment identified the boy as their son.  Their child had fallen from that window.

It's a poem -- "The Cracked Window."

The crack is the medium of shared suffering.  The cat has a passion for birds, but is softened and enobled in its predatory nature by association with a compassionate human soul.  The cat may very well be with that soul in the Afterlife.  The medium John Anderson has observed that pets often die before the passing of a child in order to guide the little soul into the Afterlife.

I wished to relate the link I felt to the film "G.I. Jane" as has been mentioned.  Demi Moore's character was raped in that movie, I believe.  A military organization really functions on the common, deep, HUMAN bonding.  Degrading and raping one of your own is a passion of power and domination -- not human bonding.

Colonel David Hackworth built his military community in Vietnam through this BONDING.  The SYSTEM, however, impressed a rigid 365-day rotation system for troops in Vietnam, guaranteeing a resistance to bonding.  No matter what one feels about Vietnam, the system bred allienation and rejection so profound that it brought about self-allination and self- (soul)-rejection.  Which was the point, importantly.

I recently listened again to a message by a rather unusual/ordinary man.  He said that God ALWAYS chooses to work through "PEOPLE AND THINGS." ( I can relate a little more of his story later if there is any interest.)  But this went together immediately in my mind with a version of the origin of Lucifer's Rebellion as taught by Islam. Lucifer LOVED GOD.  But one day God created human beings and directed all his Angels to love and minister to these beings.  Lucifer was devastated: he would not put God secondarily nor partially in his love.  Lucifer could not obey -- out of absolute PASSION for the presence and face of the Most High.  God turned His face from Lucifer.

"Passion" means suffering, and so Lucifer suffers and hates humanity with jealousy and malice.  Lucifer strives to twist and destroy humanity in the image of the undeseving petty swine he wishes and believes them to be.  

Angels deal with unimaginable supra-universal power.  Immense forces of titanic glory are their natural media.  Stupendous stuff!  Yet God chooses to use "Compassion" instead of the "Passion" of angels.  The "com" prefix means "with" and "shared."  The Glory of God shall shine out from the "meek" and "ordinary" instead of the stellar.  The fate of a frozen bird IS such meekness and cosmic grace.

Primary question: have you consulted with any good "alternative" practitionrers?

Listening to Dr. Paul Pearsall last night on Art Bell, I heard him say that physicians are right 4 out of 10 times.  Also, consider a blood relative you know who has survived to an advanced age.  What diet habits did they have?  Odds are it wasn't the low-fat yadayada thing.  Take a look at the Weston A. Price Foundation website.  Dr. John Lee has much to say also, esspecially for women.

The old Zen Buddhist saying goes: "Before Enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.  "After Enlightenment: CHOP WOOD, CARRY WATER!"

Much greed and haste and waste comes from the assumption that our lives are short.  As Dr. Gary Schwartz discusses in his book THE AFTERLIFE EXPERIMENTS, the provable reality of life and soul continuity would take much of the panic and destructive hurry from the playing field of resource stewardship and soulful prioritization.  

THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS describes Hell rule as a hierarchical, pyramidal BUREAUCRACY in which each devil is maneuvering to EAT its competition (while avoiding being eaten), until, at last, there is but ONE devil left as a Cosmic Sole.  The real business, then, is SOUL EATING.  There is no compassion or love at all in such a dynamic.

Sure, astralmaster --

"Gimme da meat."  (F. Scott Fitzgerald told an overly verbal friend that all the English one would really need to know in America consisted of 3 utterances: "Yeah...Naw...and, Gimme da meat.")  My email is profiled under "Koshka" ("cat" in Russian -- the name of our Russian blue).

Our family saw the movie yesterday.  It has a lot of heart.  I must be ready for "them" because I didn't flinch or jump at the prepared spots.  My family commented: "They [the human family] didn't have any guns," although it would have been a very different film if they had.  Bruce Lee commented on the fact that most martial arts films are set in ancient times because a firearm would simply end the drama -- blam!  Personally, I have a snap-on belt fitted with a Rossi .357 revolver and a large cartridge case.

Dr. Moody reports that many people have an experience after just 5 minutes within the PM (psychomanteum chamber).  It's not necessarily a long session.  
The "witches' cradle" was described to me once.  A therapist had one installed at their clinic office.  This bed board was suspended on a yoke.  The patient's tiniest movement would cause the bed to yaw...rotate, etc.  Think of holding your eyes closed while on a swing.  Soon the inner ear and all that gyro mechanism must give up the project of registering where and when you...are.  
Privately, Moody and others will say that the PM "apparition" is indistinguishable from reality.  They use the word "apparition" as the chess player uses sustained contact with a piece just moved.  
I shall report results.

> astralmaster
I'll look up that author.  We haven't had much luck with PDF reading.

> lucid dancer
We're not doing this for a lark, of course.  The pain of our son's passing is an immense continuing presence.  I've read Fr. Martin's HOSTAGE TO THE DEVIL and other texts precisely about the mysyery of objective evil in our world.  Take a look at David Icke's BIGGEST SECRET, or his website:
www.davidicke.com .  Also Kathleen Keatings articles and books accessed at: www.kathleenkeating.com .  (I'm not putting too much time into each individual post because it might all go away.)